Re: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel

2002-10-09 Thread Beth F
We could knock them all into shape. My friend tried that! He lived on a settlement that was half palestinian and half israeli. Was a very cool place. - Original Message - From: "Judith Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 200

Re: Breaking News : 12 Killed in Israel, hundreds injured....

2002-10-09 Thread Beth F
... > No, from day one they should have accepted the existence of Israel, gotten > their own state on the other 10% of the mandate given to them and left well > enough alone. Either that or settled on the 80% of the mandate that is now > Jordan. Actually, on day one they were given far more tha

Re: Caucasian Jews

2002-10-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I'm usually the calm one. :) (and I get far less sleep than she does) > Sometimes I am. > > > how in the world do you take care of kids when you guys stay up till 3 > > am? > > i would be zombie bitch mommy from hell __ This

Re: Caucasian Jews

2002-10-09 Thread Judith Dinowitz
Sometimes I am. Judith Dinowitz Editor Fusion Authority http://www.fusionauthority.com - Original Message - From: "BethF in AK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 2:58 AM Subject: Re: Caucasian Jews > how in the world do you take

Re: Caucasian Jews

2002-10-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
All I have to do with the kids in the morning is wake them and make sure they get dressed. Judith gets them their cloths and gets them to their buses. I'm not on call with them till homework later (and tickling Shemaryahu during the day :). > how in the world do you take care of kids when you gu

Re: Caucasian Jews

2002-10-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
> > I consider you Jewish, period. Badly is a judgment call that I'm not > > equipped to make. Only God can do that. At least the way I see it. > > > its always been one of my issues with religious folks - if something is a > crime against God isn't it HIS job to deal with it? Exactly. > What are

Re: Caucasian Jews

2002-10-09 Thread BethF in AK
how in the world do you take care of kids when you guys stay up till 3 am? i would be zombie bitch mommy from hell - Original Message - From: "Judith Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 10:58 PM Subject: Re: Caucasian

Re: Caucasian Jews

2002-10-09 Thread Judith Dinowitz
The same thing I'm doing up at 3 am. Working. He's on a contract; I'm doing the community suite. I'm going to pay for this in the morning. Oh, wait, it is the morning! Judith > . > > I consider you Jewish, period. Badly is a judgment call that I'm not > > equipped to make. Only God can do that

Re: Caucasian Jews

2002-10-09 Thread BethF in AK
. > I consider you Jewish, period. Badly is a judgment call that I'm not > equipped to make. Only God can do that. At least the way I see it. its always been one of my issues with religious folks - if something is a crime against God isn't it HIS job to deal with it? What are you doing up at 3

Re: Is Michael D the sniper?!? (was RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com)

2002-10-09 Thread BethF in AK
you write God - i can't believe i hadn't noticed. wouldn't it be fun to write crime mysteries about serial killers with messages. did you see the movie SEVEN? - Original Message - From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, Octobe

Re: Caucasian Jews

2002-10-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
> > This is actually amusing. Someone converts to Judaism and is in all ways > as > > if he was born to a Jewish mother in the eyes of someone religious but he > > doesn't fit into the 'Jewish race' box of Beth. I'm not knocking you Beth, > I > > just find the reversal of normal roles to be very a

Re: Is Michael D the sniper?!? (was RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com)

2002-10-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
That would be Judith. I've got no problem writing God as it's not a divine name in any respect. And anyway, I'd use something a lot different than a tarot card. A puzzle, a poem, an historical taunt, something with some flair and originality (as well as meaning). There was once a comic with a ser

Re: Caucasian Jews

2002-10-09 Thread BethF in AK
> This is actually amusing. Someone converts to Judaism and is in all ways as > if he was born to a Jewish mother in the eyes of someone religious but he > doesn't fit into the 'Jewish race' box of Beth. I'm not knocking you Beth, I > just find the reversal of normal roles to be very amusing. > Th

Re: Caucasian Jews

2002-10-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
This is actually amusing. Someone converts to Judaism and is in all ways as if he was born to a Jewish mother in the eyes of someone religious but he doesn't fit into the 'Jewish race' box of Beth. I'm not knocking you Beth, I just find the reversal of normal roles to be very amusing. There is som

Re: Caucasian Jews

2002-10-09 Thread BethF in AK
> But Beth, if you convert to the Jewish religion, you automatically become part of the Jewish race. You get the national/cultural as well >as the religious aspects of it. That's the whole meaning of Mikvah (immersion in the ritual bath) -- it's as if you've become a new person, >and have connecte

Re: Caucasian Jews

2002-10-09 Thread BethF in AK
As far as I know, I am JEWISH and have no religion so you must be wrong. you can't pass a religion via the blood of the mother. - Original Message - From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:42 PM Subject: Re: Cau

Re: Is Michael D the sniper?!? (was RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com)

2002-10-09 Thread BethF in AK
if it was mike d he would have written "i am g-d" on the card - Original Message - From: "Marlon Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 7:46 PM Subject: Re: Is Michael D the sniper?!? (was RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com)

Re: Caucasian Jews

2002-10-09 Thread Judith Dinowitz
That's because race has been used all too often as an excuse for anti-semitism, so many Jews are uncomfortable with the word. Think about it. If we're not a race, the whole "purity of the races" notion doesn't hold water, and there goes another excuse. > Hmmm...I'm not disagreeing with you at a

Re: Caucasian Jews

2002-10-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Define race. My mother is Jewish. her mother was Jewish. Her mother was Jewish. Her mother was Jewish. My son is olive skinned. My brother is olive skinned. I'm pale skinned. My daughter and youngest son is pale skinned. What race are we? The race that we can trace ourselves back through for gener

Re: Caucasian Jews

2002-10-09 Thread Howie Hamlin
Hmmm...I'm not disagreeing with you at all but I remember Jewish acquaintances telling me that being Jewish was not a race. As for Semites, AFAIK that is a lineage and a race. Semites are descended from middle eastern people. Of course, I'm no authority on any of this :-) Regards, Howie --

Re: Caucasian Jews

2002-10-09 Thread Judith Dinowitz
There's an element of race as well as religion, Howie. Or call it nationality instead. That's how a Jew can be considered Jewish even if he/she never practices his or her religion. He's Jewish by birth, not by practice. That's what she means by race. Technically, all Jews are semites, no? Judi

Re: Caucasian Jews

2002-10-09 Thread Judith Dinowitz
But Beth, if you convert to the Jewish religion, you automatically become part of the Jewish race. You get the national/cultural as well as the religious aspects of it. That's the whole meaning of Mikvah (immersion in the ritual bath) -- it's as if you've become a new person, and have connected

Re: Caucasian Jews

2002-10-09 Thread Howie Hamlin
AFAIK, begin Jewish is not a race, it's a religion. I thought that Israelis were semites, which is a race. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: "Beth F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:00 PM Subject: Re: Caucasian J

Re: Caucasian Jews

2002-10-09 Thread Beth F
> This is what I never understood. I thought that the "original" Jews closely > resembled Arabs more than they do Caucasians. But how come there are > Caucasian Jews? Did they pick up the religion in Europe? > > Are you a Jew if you practice Judaism? Or are you a Jew if you're > genetically a

Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com

2002-10-09 Thread Marlon Moyer
Jon Hall wrote: >I only skimmed the article, but the author sounds like on of those >NAMBLA idiots. As disgusting as they are, I'd rather the way these >people think be understood, because killing them all isn't going to >stop it, and would only drive them underground. > > For god sakes, when i

Re: Leno might actually be interesting tonight...

2002-10-09 Thread Marlon Moyer
Real Sex on HBO has run a story on them before. I watched it and came away feeling..well.inadequate. :) Marlon jon hall wrote: >http://tonightshow.msn.com/guests/ > >Apparently this group of people called "Puppetry of the Penis" is >coming on the show tonight. They are supposedly famo

Re: Is Michael D the sniper?!? (was RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com)

2002-10-09 Thread Marlon Moyer
Yeah, I remember being a half-elf chaotic evil sniper too. That was the most fun character to play. While everyone else was messing around with bows and swords, I was picking them off with my high power infrared 400x optical magnifaction scope sitting atop my 7.62 Dragunov sniper rifle. Lo

Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com

2002-10-09 Thread Jon Hall
Maybe I'm splitting hairs, but I the term "pedophilia" is a broad term...just looked it up on dictionary.com, covering both act and fantasy. Rape wasn't listed as a synonym in either case though, in which case an eye for an eye approach sounds fine to me. Since the term covers fantasy though we st

Re: Is Michael D the sniper?!? (was RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com)

2002-10-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
That all depends on if he's referring to himself with the cards or his victims. The tower is more of something that you'd leave behind without a personal message on it. The "I'm god" message would relate back to the card. If the card was his, then he's saying that he's death. > Or the Tower woul

RE: Leno might actually be interesting tonight...

2002-10-09 Thread Kevin Graeme
I did a photo series of that when I was an art student. Got my work banned from some art cafes. Kevin Graeme > -Original Message- > From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 6:46 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Leno might actually be interesting tonig

Re: moved over: always a representative or not? was: Re: not another mx boo boo

2002-10-09 Thread Critter
oi Raymond!! nope nope. n/m i'll get into it later. -- Critz Macromedia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer http://blog.ctzc.com";> Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 2:40:20 PM, you wrote: RC> Now wait one minute here. Are you saying that everything I

Re: Leno might actually be interesting tonight...

2002-10-09 Thread Critter
oi jon!! who cares. Avril's on! -- Critz Macromedia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer http://blog.ctzc.com";> Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 7:46:20 PM, you wrote: jh> http://tonightshow.msn.com/guests/ jh> Apparently this group of people cal

RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com

2002-10-09 Thread Kevin Graeme
Okay, after I got home I took a look at Amazon and at the book and it's reviews. First off, Amazon derides it in their editorial review. Second, in the interview on the O'Reilly site they talk about how just a few clicks takes you from Amazon to a site with pictures of boylove. Though I searched w

Re: Breaking News : 12 Killed in Israel, hundreds injured....

2002-10-09 Thread Judith Dinowitz
Pat, they were smuggled out secretly. In 1947, with the declaration of the state of Israel, there were riots in Syria and Jews who had lived there for generations had to leave the country in fear for their lives. They had to leave their businesses and homes (and their money) behind. I think it

RE: Is Michael D the sniper?!? (was RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com)

2002-10-09 Thread Kevin Graeme
Retired FBI profiler. ;-) Kevin Graeme > -Original Message- > From: Lon Lentz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 5:54 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Is Michael D the sniper?!? (was RE: Pedophiliac book on > Amazon.com) > > > "...If he's into tarot card

Leno might actually be interesting tonight...

2002-10-09 Thread jon hall
http://tonightshow.msn.com/guests/ Apparently this group of people called "Puppetry of the Penis" is coming on the show tonight. They are supposedly famous for reshaping their genitals to look like famous structures, like the Eiffel Tower... -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _

RE: Is Michael D the sniper?!? (was RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com)

2002-10-09 Thread Kevin Graeme
Or the Tower would be a blunt message to those who know. Curiously, though I put no stock in it, any time a reading for me has been done the Chariot and the Tower always come up. Ooohh. Foul portents abound! Kevin Graeme > -Original Message- > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE

Re: moved over: always a representative or not?

2002-10-09 Thread Judith Dinowitz
I have yet to see what got Aaron Rouse so insulted. I saw Sean's first response, and I don't see that it was an attack. He posted his results from the code, asked for further clarification of the problem, and asked that another subject line might be more tactful. Aaron then proceeded to attack

Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com

2002-10-09 Thread Jacob
How about murdering a pedophile? At 05:22 PM 10/9/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Which is worse? Pedophilia or murder? > >-- > jon > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 1:20:26 PM, you wrote: >J> Kevin said, "I think the author of the book should be drug out into the >J> street a

RE: Is Michael D the sniper?!? (was RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com)

2002-10-09 Thread Lon Lentz
"...If he's into tarot cards, he's into mysticism and possibly (the role-playing game) Dungeons & Dragons..." An FBI profiler came up with this? We are in trouble... -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 5:00 PM To: CF-Comm

RE: moved over: always a representative or not?

2002-10-09 Thread Dan Haley
But, I do work for a company. :) I agree with you, but am just trying to make the point that some people will always associate the speaker and the company they work for ... no idea on what percentage of people ... and I imagine it changes depending on who the speaker is ... Dan -Original M

Re: Russia will attack Israel

2002-10-09 Thread Pat O
>Because hizballah has thousands of rockets along the border and is just >waiting for the word to attack en mass. The word from who ? God ? and Israel got Nuclear weaponds...i dont see the point! Attacking Israel through the press is an act of war ? wow. and i though Sharon was tough! I don

mitnick's laptops on ebay ...

2002-10-09 Thread Dan Haley
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2058978645 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2060605516 The article on CNN says he can use a cell phone and computer now, but can't use the internet. He is, though, trying to get back his amateur radio license ... hmmm ... my un

RE: Bang Bang

2002-10-09 Thread Angel Stewart
Hmm.. Before Al Qaeda made it into popular Media...were there any other Terrorist networks around?? :) It seems that every single attack is due to Al Qaeda, or Bin Laden. It's such a neat little story..kinda like Empire Strikes back you know...Good over Evil..I suppose the average sheep really

Re: Is Michael D the sniper?!? (was RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com)

2002-10-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I've played American army and try as I may, I can't get into sniper school. And from my record of being killed regularly in the game, I'll never have military training. So that removes me as the sniper from the skill perspective. As for the card, those who use Tarot (I don't) know that the death c

Re: Breaking News : 12 Killed in Israel, hundreds injured....

2002-10-09 Thread Pat O
I dont recall hundred of thousands of jews exiled from arab countries where did these Jews settle ? in Israel ? how did they get there ? did arab countries provide safe paths for them ? i read the history of Israel and dont recal anywhere any hundred of the thousands of Jews exiled from arab c

Re: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel

2002-10-09 Thread Pat O
I hate it that I only get a short time to read and then write back, so i just pick the last few ones outbut i got to disagree with you, cause... No , jews dont control 99.xx% of the middle east, but neither do muslims... Yes, Israel did attack arab countries, they attacked Lebanon many times.

RE: moved over: always a representative or not? was: Re: not anot her mx boo boo

2002-10-09 Thread Dan Haley
Personally, I believe you have opinions that are yours and they are separate from Macromedia, but that is made easier by the fact that Macromedia is a big corporation. Think of all the people that have posted to the cf-talk list over the years who put their company names in their sigs, and if you

FW: White House invitation for Pittsburgh Town Hall Meeting

2002-10-09 Thread Kevin Gilchrist
Should I go? ;-) THE WHITE HOUSE INVITES YOU TO: THE PRESIDENT'S CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROTECTION BOARD PITTSBURGH TOWN HALL MEETING THURSDAY, OCTOBER 24, 2002 7 - 9 PM CARNEGIE MELLON UNIVERSITY

Re: Here Leezard Leezard

2002-10-09 Thread bbraver_cf
Ewww, gross. MikeyD - how would you know they're crunchy? Have you eaten them?? > What are you talking about!?! Crunchy?? I'm scared. really scared. > > Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer > The Children's Medical Center > One Children's Plaza > Dayton, OH 45404 > 937-641-4293 > h

Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com

2002-10-09 Thread jon hall
Which is worse? Pedophilia or murder? -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 1:20:26 PM, you wrote: J> Kevin said, "I think the author of the book should be drug out into the J> street and shot." Being drug out into the street and shot is not the J> answer to this prob

RE: Ben's back

2002-10-09 Thread bbraver_cf
Thanks, Patrick! Actually, after that trip, I'm back more than ever - gotta go back on the diet . -Ben > Nice to see you back, Ben! > > Patrick > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:56 PM > > To: CF-C

Re: Devcon apparel

2002-10-09 Thread bbraver_cf
Eve should have said that to the serpent! ;-) -Ben > I dont do lizards, dude. lol > > Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer > The Children's Medical Center > One Children's Plaza > Dayton, OH 45404 > 937-641-4293 > http://www.childrensdayton.org > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> [EMAIL PROTE

Re: SPAM worth $10 in North Carolina

2002-10-09 Thread Jacob
For $80... how much did it cost to file the case? At 04:21 PM 10/9/2002 -0400, you wrote: >New law sparks lawsuit against Dole campaign >http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/09/offbeat.dole.ap/index.html > >~~ >Stephenie > > > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-

RE: SPAM worth $10 in North Carolina

2002-10-09 Thread Kevin Graeme
Interesting how their defense was that it wasn't commercial spam. Kevin Graeme > -Original Message- > From: Stephenie Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 3:22 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: SPAM worth $10 in North Carolina > > > New law sparks laws

RE: moved over: always a representative or not?

2002-10-09 Thread Matt Liotta
If you didn't work with any companies that had individuals who at one point or another said something you didn't like then there wouldn't be many companies for you to work with. A company is the sum of its individuals, not a single individual. It would be good to remember that in case you ever fin

Is Michael D the sniper?!? (was RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com)

2002-10-09 Thread Kevin Graeme
Just saw on the USA Today site this description of the D.C. area sniper: 'Robert Ressler, a retired FBI profiler, says the card could be a prank. But if the sniper left the card, Ressler said, it could indicate that the sniper is "into weird mysticism. If he's into tarot cards, he's into mysticis

RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com

2002-10-09 Thread Phoeun Pha
Not really. The only thing that concerned me was that it had to do with kids. I'm not a parent, but I do have a bunch of nephews and nieces. -Original Message- From: Dan Haley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 3:12 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Pedophiliac

Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com

2002-10-09 Thread Jacob
My IP address 127.0.0.1 Let's give the FBI something to do... At 03:42 PM 10/9/2002 -0400, you wrote: >For everyone that's clicked on that link - what if the Effa Bee Eye asks >Amazon for a list of IPs that have accessed >that page? > >- Original Message - >From: "Phoeun Pha" <[EMAIL

Re: Here Leezard Leezard

2002-10-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
My job here is done. ;) > What are you talking about!?! Crunchy?? I'm scared. really scared. > > Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer > The Children's Medical Center > One Children's Plaza > Dayton, OH 45404 > 937-641-4293 > http://www.childrensdayton.org > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> [EMAIL

RE: OT: TagCFMail::sendMessage

2002-10-09 Thread Larry Lyons
Not sure Jacob about the disk space problem. I also cleared out a lot of old stuff off the server just in case. Thanks for the help. larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel

Bang Bang

2002-10-09 Thread William Wheatley
http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/10/09/kuwait.marines.shot/index.html That will teach you to pull upto a humvee and point a weapon at soliders ;) Get a cap busted in your ass. "Those personnel reported that after the gunfire, they saw the civilian vehicle careening off the road." Wonder i

RE: moved over: always a representative or not? was: Re: not another mx boo boo

2002-10-09 Thread Raymond Camden
Heh, what's the worse they can do - fire me? (Oh wait... ;) -ray > -Original Message- > From: Stephenie Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 3:41 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: moved over: always a representative or not? was: > Re: not another m

RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com

2002-10-09 Thread Stephenie Hamilton
So we read a news storyon foxnews.com ~~ Stephenie > |-Original Message- > |From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > |Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 3:42 PM > |To: CF-Community > |Subject: Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com > | > | > |For everyone that's clicked on that

SPAM worth $10 in North Carolina

2002-10-09 Thread Stephenie Hamilton
New law sparks lawsuit against Dole campaign http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/09/offbeat.dole.ap/index.html ~~ Stephenie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 10/3/200

RE: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel

2002-10-09 Thread Phoeun Pha
Then i wasn't talking about you :) hehe -Original Message- From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 2:23 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel I don't hate anyone, Phoeun. Judith - Original Messag

RE: moved over: always a representative or not?

2002-10-09 Thread Dan Haley
I may be able to distinguish between the fact that you are the one telling me I'm a frigging idiot, and its not the company, BUT, it causes harm to your company if you do it in a way that pisses me off ... guilt by association, that sort of thing ... kind of like seeing drivers in a company truck

RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com

2002-10-09 Thread Dan Haley
I totally agree ... think of how many books are being written on the rise and fall of Enron ... while corporate greed may not be as repugnant as pedophilia, it is still profiting on a crime ... Phoeun, do you have a problem with books about Enron's crimes if they detail how it was done, thereby t

Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com

2002-10-09 Thread William Wheatley
:) This in someways sounds similar to people who don't like penthouse, playboy etc. People who consider it crap and wish people wouldn't sell it. But I can be pretty sure that those type things could possibly have prevented rape or other type things. It gives a person an outlet to discharge (no p

RE: OT: TagCFMail::sendMessage

2002-10-09 Thread Jacob
Usually when things have been running fine for a while and then weird CF errors pop up, 95% of the time stopping and restarting the CF server works. The other 5%, well... The 0 byte files sounding like a disk space problem to me... guess it was not. Welcome At 02:48 PM 10/9/2002 -0400, you w

RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com

2002-10-09 Thread Maureen
At 01:46 PM 10/9/02, Phoeun Pha wrote: >Sorry for being a little rough, but I was trying to make a point. > >See Beth, as much as I agree with you on Freedom of speech, these possible >book subjects make me feel uneasy! The most obscene act is censorship. __

RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com

2002-10-09 Thread Phoeun Pha
Beth, I guess it's hard to draw the line then. -Original Message- From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 2:04 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com It makes me uneasy as well. Criminal activity should be prevented. But w

Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com

2002-10-09 Thread Deanna Schneider
Jerry, I'm not saying you have no say in it. I think refusing to purchase books from them is EXACTLY the kind of say you should have. The point is - selling the book isn't illegal. You're entitled to feel it's "wrong." But your moral stance has nothing to do with my rights. -d Deanna Schneider

Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com

2002-10-09 Thread Howie Hamlin
For everyone that's clicked on that link - what if the Effa Bee Eye asks Amazon for a list of IPs that have accessed that page? - Original Message - From: "Phoeun Pha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:36 PM Subject: RE: Pedop

RE: moved over: always a representative or not? was: Re: not another mx boo boo

2002-10-09 Thread Stephenie Hamilton
Guess you need one of those "the opinions expressed in this email are not necessarily those of my employer" sig lines eh? ~~ Stephenie > |-Original Message- > |From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > |Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 2:40 PM > |To: CF-Community > |Subjec

RE: Ben's back

2002-10-09 Thread Harkins,Patrick
Nice to see you back, Ben! Patrick > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:56 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Ben's back > > > Candace- > > but it's virtual, so I'm still virtuous > ;-) > > but you're right

RE: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel

2002-10-09 Thread Harkins,Patrick
Amen! > -Original Message- > From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:27 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel > > > My Palestinian friend said the same thing about Jews. > > I think alot of people

Here Leezard Leezard

2002-10-09 Thread Candace Cottrell
What are you talking about!?! Crunchy?? I'm scared. really scared. Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer The Children's Medical Center One Children's Plaza Dayton, OH 45404 937-641-4293 http://www.childrensdayton.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/9/2002 2:24:15 PM >>> Don't

Re: moved over: always a representative or not? was: Re: not another mx boo boo

2002-10-09 Thread Judith Dinowitz
I'm missing something. What's this with Sean? That he's a Macromedia employee? That he can have a life outside of Macromedia? Judith > oi Tyler!! > > that's total bullshit. He works for the company, just because uses an outside >email addy gives him > no right to be disrespectful to an

Re: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel

2002-10-09 Thread Judith Dinowitz
I don't hate anyone, Phoeun. Judith - Original Message - From: "Phoeun Pha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:27 PM Subject: RE: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel > My Palestinian friend said the same thing abo

RE: moved over: always a representative or not? was: Re: not anot her mx boo boo

2002-10-09 Thread Dan Haley
This is all because he said "(And perhaps use a less confrontational subject line? :)"?? Get a grip ... As to the question of always a representative or not, unfortunately you are always a representative of the things you are associated with. It isn't right, but it's reality. Dan -Orig

RE: moved over: always a representative or not?

2002-10-09 Thread Angel Stewart
Hey..I have a company...AND I use the company email.. But if I tell you you're talking utter fucking bullshit, it doesn't mean the company thinks you're a frigging idiot... It means *I* think you're a frigging idiot. I don't always wear my company hatin fact we don't have a company hat... A

Re: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel

2002-10-09 Thread Marlon Moyer
Phoeun Pha wrote: >But he's always there, whether I like it or not. Yesterday I was feeling >down about my problems while I was driving home, and there was a car in >front of me with a bumper sticker "God Listens". > > > Funny, on my way home, a bumper sticker in front of me said 'Jesus Loves

Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com

2002-10-09 Thread Marlon Moyer
Phoeun, you make it sound that if we make sure that these books are never published, then we'll never have to worry about the crimes taking place. I wish it was that easy. If we're going on the assumption that if it makes you feel uneasy, then it should be banned, then I can think of a lot

Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com

2002-10-09 Thread Beth F
It makes me uneasy as well. Criminal activity should be prevented. But where is THE LINE But what if someone wants to outlaw textbooks on how to perform abortions? How to shoot a gun? Outlaw non-standard religious texts? - Original Message - From: "Phoeun Pha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com

2002-10-09 Thread Jerry Johnson
So you feel that a book which promotes pedophilia, and actually advises how to successfully accomplish it and stay out of legal jeopardy is a worthy ideological stance, and that I have no say in the matter, and should basically shut up about it? I disagree. And I have made my views known to my

RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com

2002-10-09 Thread Cantrell, Adam
I'd say that if there was a demand for this type of literature then there is a larger social problem to be addressed. Creating laws that ban people from writing/reading about it is just a band aid which has never worked. Adam. > -Original Message- > From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE

RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com

2002-10-09 Thread Cantrell, Adam
The subject is of no relevance, anyone who advocates banning literature of any form is promoting censorship. A better approach would be for you to write your own book explaining why people shouldn't read this. Or you could do like Kevin says we should (but probably would never do himself) - drag

RE: OT: TagCFMail::sendMessage

2002-10-09 Thread Larry Lyons
stopping and restarting the services seem to have helped. There was one 0 byte file left. that I could not delete. After stopping the cf application service I was able to delete the file. After restarting the CF application service, things are running just fine again. Go figure. thanks again Jac

Re: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel

2002-10-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Do Jews control 99.xx% of the middle east? (no) Have Jews been attacking Arab countries for the last 50 years? (no) Are Jews willing to give up land to others in return for peace? (yes) I have yet to see an Arab country say hey, lets stop the terrorism and give peace a chance. Not one. They all bl

RE: moved over: always a representative or not? was: Re: not another mx boo boo

2002-10-09 Thread Raymond Camden
Now wait one minute here. Are you saying that everything I say represents Macromedia? That's not really fair, is it? I _do_ have opinions and they do not always match up with what Macromedia as a company puts forth. === Raymond C

RE: moved over: always a representative or not? was: Re: not another mx boo boo

2002-10-09 Thread Matt Liotta
IMHO, how people interact on public mailing lists is a reflection on themselves and not their employers. If you like what Sean has to say then you will like what he has to say if he changes to another company. The reverse is all true as anyone who dislikes what Sean has to say isn't going to sudde

Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com

2002-10-09 Thread Beth F
> Maybe, Beth, but I wouldn't want him to profit from it, especially if I thought that money was going to aid or abet pedophiles. I guess I'd go >read this book in the library but I wouldn't buy it. > > Agreed. __ This list and

Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com

2002-10-09 Thread Deanna Schneider
So what, Phoeun. Who cares if Amazon is selling the book. That's exactly what I'm saying. Who cares if the people buying it are pedophiles. Yes, pedophilia is against the law. A book on the topic is not against the law. Yes, the behavior (pedophilia) is considered repugnant in our society. Frankly

Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com

2002-10-09 Thread Marlon Moyer
Boy, this kinda sounds like minority report. Kill the author before he's committed a crime. Sure the books seems distasteful (not certain as I don't own it and probably never will), but as long as the author has not committed any crime, why should anything be done to him. Just because someo

Re: Devcon apparel

2002-10-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
In the old days (when I didn't walk with a stick) I used to chase them all over the place when visiting my grandparents. I've got to get my kids to Florida so they can do the same. It's an experience. > > Net? What type of wusses are you? Catching geckos is a tradition that > should > > be done

Re: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel

2002-10-09 Thread Beth F
> My Palestinian friend said the same thing about Jews. > The palestinians and jews pretty much DID live in peace during the 80's until the intifada. Then there was an accident in which an israeli army truck ran over some palestinians, certainly a terrible sad thing. For some reason Palestini

Re: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel

2002-10-09 Thread Beth F
> You're welcome. You see, we have more in common than you'd think. We actually do. __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.c

Re: Devcon apparel

2002-10-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Don't knock it till you try it. ;) Just don't grab them by the tails. They're detachable. and crunchy > I dont do lizards, dude. lol > > Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer > The Children's Medical Center > One Children's Plaza > Dayton, OH 45404 > 937-641-4293 > http://www.childrensdayton.org > >

RE: Devcon apparel

2002-10-09 Thread Simon Horwith
I will be dressed to kill. LOL ~Simon Simon Horwith Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Fig Leaf Software 1400 16th St NW, # 220 Washington DC 20036 202.797.6570 (direct line) www.figleaf.com -Original Message- From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PR

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