Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Sam
LOL! Good one. I think hubby undid the chain and ordered her to become president so he can have parties in that really big house. . On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Dana wrote: >> >> LOL +1 >> >>> I wish all these women who say a woman's place is the home, silent and >>

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Gruss Gott
Dana wrote: > > LOL +1 > >> I wish all these women who say a woman's place is the home, silent and >> submissive,  would practice what they preach and drink a large cup of >> STFU. > Yeah, what are they doing out anyway? Clearly that chain wasn't chew-proof

Re: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-06 Thread Gruss Gott
G Money wrote: > > That's interesting stuff. > I know drinking causes umpteen millions, and maybe billions, in health > spending every year.but damnit, I want to be able to drink, so i'm > willing to pay the bill for a little freedom. > VERY interesting point - I never thought of it that way

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-06 Thread Gruss Gott
Sam wrote: > > Back in the day you could buy a BMW or Benz in Germany, get it > converted for use in the US and ship it. In the end it would cost the > same as buying it here but you get a trip to Germany. That's basically the deal - you get a 14% discount (off the negotiated price), get to driv

Re: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-06 Thread Scott Stroz
I guess I do not know enough about how insurance rates are calculates to see how, if someone rode a motorcycle without a helmet, it would affect _my_ insurance rates. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > It increases insurance rates. > > -Original Message- > From: Scot

Re: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-06 Thread Larry Lyons
>Unless all of these motorcyclists were under Medicare or Medicaid, I >am not sure I see how this costs 'us' any more money than any other >disease/injury. > > >> You want to know how fast you can burn through a million? Just look at how much it costs to maintain someone in a persistent vegitativ

RE: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-06 Thread Eric Roberts
It increases insurance rates. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 8:07 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Dawrin Award Winner Unless all of these motorcyclists were under Medicare or Medicaid, I am not sure I see how this costs '

Re: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-06 Thread Scott Stroz
Unless all of these motorcyclists were under Medicare or Medicaid, I am not sure I see how this costs 'us' any more money than any other disease/injury. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > > The first study I mentioned noted that following Pennsylvania's repeal non > helmet rel

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Scott Stroz
Typically, I would agree with you, except for this little passage in that article: “The husband is to be the head of the wife, according to God.” It is a philosophy that Michele Bachmann echoed to congregants of the the Living Word Christian Center in 2006, when she stated that she pursued her de

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Scott Stroz
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Sam wrote: > > as > Philippians 2 describes. The woman should be willing to submit to her > husband not be unwilling or forced. The man should be a loving, > servant leader – accountable and responsible to God and his family. A > loving leader leads –doesn't manip

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Maureen
Because she says she will every time she opens her mouth. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Sam wrote: > > And how do you know she will do this? > > . > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Maureen wrote: >> >> If it stopped with her being submissive to her spouse that would ok, >> as that is her ri

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Sam
And how do you know she will do this? . On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Maureen wrote: > > If it stopped with her being submissive to her spouse that would ok, > as that is her right.  The problem arises when she gets into a > position of power and wants to use that power to tell me that I have

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Sam
Wow! I'm in shock. We can actually agree on something? . On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Submission has nothing to do with whether or not it is coerced. > Submission is submission even when it is voluntarily. I think that > submission is a fine thing. And some people ca

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Sam
He's a nut job. A truther that wants build the great wall of China here and pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist. Bachman and Palin both appear to be fiscal Conservatives. What be sides all the hate speech from the left we're expecting do find wrong with their positions? . On Wed, Jul 6

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Sam
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I didn't spread any lies about either of them.  Also I was very > specific in my definition of idiots, refraining from using the > hyperbole that you love so well. You called her an idiot for trying to cram her nonsense down your throat... When

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Maureen
If it stopped with her being submissive to her spouse that would ok, as that is her right. The problem arises when she gets into a position of power and wants to use that power to tell me that I have to submissive to MY spouse - and also tell me what gender that spouse has to be, along with a who

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Judah McAuley
Submission has nothing to do with whether or not it is coerced. Submission is submission even when it is voluntarily. I think that submission is a fine thing. And some people can compartmentalize their submission. I know some very strong, powerful, people who are firm leaders in their work lives w

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Robert Munn
We need to get back to government of the people, by the people, and for the people. Our politicians seem totally incapable of or unwilling to stop the slow-motion tide of financial destruction approaching the United States. Slotting in Bachmann or Palin or Obama doesn't change the basic math. This

I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Scott Stroz
You can try to twist the meaning of the word any way you want. I will stick with the dictionary definitions, and not definitions from someone trying to make their 'Holy Book' seem less sexist. On Wednesday, July 6, 2011, Sam wrote: > > As you see in the dictionary it has many meanings. If you p

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Maureen
I didn't spread any lies about either of them. Also I was very specific in my definition of idiots, refraining from using the hyperbole that you love so well. As for feeding me to the lions, there are numerous organizations that claim the right to kill unbelievers in their dogma, including som

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Dana
LOL +1 > I wish all these women who say a woman's place is the home, silent and > submissive,  would practice what they preach and drink a large cup of > STFU. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Sam
Instead of calling religious folks idiots and spreading lies about them as was done with the other woman that might run, let's focus on her qualifications for the job. Unless you truly believe she will feed you to the lions if you do not convert. . On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Maureen wrot

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Maureen
No, just hating on idiots, especially those who want to cram their nonsense down my throat in the name of their Invisible Friend in the Sky. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Sam wrote: > > But she didn't say that so why are you pretending she did? > Still hating on women I see. ~

Re: Cheating In Atlanta Public School System

2011-07-06 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Maureen wrote: > You are probably too young to remember the scandals of the seventies > with the Atlanta School Board.  It's always been a mess. Cost per > pupil versus quality of education is atrocious. Indeed I am too young to know about that. Real shame. The

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Sam
But she didn't say that so why are you pretending she did? Still hating on women I see. . On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Maureen wrote: > > If she wants to be obedient and passive, she should go home and let > her husband run for President so we decide in the ballot box if we > want him runni

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Sam
As you see in the dictionary it has many meanings. If you put it into the context it was used it takes on several new meanings. Isn't compromising being submissive in a way? Here's from one of the google links: http://www.counselcareconnection.org/articles/149/1/What-Does-it-Mean-to-be-a-Submis

Re: Cheating In Atlanta Public School System

2011-07-06 Thread Maureen
You are probably too young to remember the scandals of the seventies with the Atlanta School Board. It's always been a mess. Cost per pupil versus quality of education is atrocious. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Maureen wrote: >> C

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Maureen
If she wants to be obedient and passive, she should go home and let her husband run for President so we decide in the ballot box if we want him running the country. I wish all these women who say a woman's place is the home, silent and submissive, would practice what they preach and drink a larg

Re: Cheating In Atlanta Public School System

2011-07-06 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Maureen wrote: > Cough, cough, sputter, spewing coffee...When did the Atlanta School > System ever have a STELLAR reputation?  It's been corrupt to the core > for at least as long as I've been breathing. Well, previously I had put them in the same category as any

Re: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-06 Thread Maureen
It is if you divide the amount spent by the number of taxpayers. Probably more like a few cents. Personally, I think anyone who rides a motorcycle without a helmet is already brain dead, but I don't think it is my place to require them to wear one. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Larry Lyons wr

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Scott Stroz
I do not want my president..or any politician...to be submissive at allTO ANYONE. Please explain to me how you can take a definition, from the dictionary, out of context. If you are OK with a woman who admits she is (and happy to be) meekly obedient and passive to her husband, by all means,

Re: Cheating In Atlanta Public School System

2011-07-06 Thread Maureen
Cough, cough, sputter, spewing coffee...When did the Atlanta School System ever have a STELLAR reputation? It's been corrupt to the core for at least as long as I've been breathing. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > Wow.  Massive.  Systemwide.  Cheating. > > Talk abo

Re: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-06 Thread Larry Lyons
The first study I mentioned noted that following Pennsylvania's repeal non helmet related head injuries went up over 42 percent. Here's the rest of the quote: The number of head-injured, hospitalized motorcyclists requiring further care at facilities specializing in rehabilitation and long-ter

Re: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-06 Thread Larry Lyons
>> So motorcycles riders who don't wear helmets cost the rest of us a lot. Its >> not a >> matter o free choice, rather its a matter of public health and safety. Those >> who >> object maybe should also be objecting to the Typhoid Mary laws that exist for >> public health. After all its your per

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Sam
Not more fun than shared submissive wives. . On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > shared wives are more fun than simply submissive wives > > /runs > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Sam wrote: >> >> It's better out of context isn't it? >> >> Try this: >> http://www.google.com

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Ras Tafari
shared wives are more fun than simply submissive wives /runs On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Sam wrote: > > It's better out of context isn't it? > > Try this: > http://www.google.com/search?q=submissive+to+your+husband > > . > > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: >> >> Here i

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Sam
It's better out of context isn't it? Try this: http://www.google.com/search?q=submissive+to+your+husband . On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Here is a better link... http://bit.ly/qJGIvH > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:3

Re: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-06 Thread G Money
That's interesting stuff. Question: How much would I be willing to pay for particular freedoms, including paying for other people's freedom? Just because not having a law may cost me a few extra cents in tax dollars as an American citizen, doesn't necessarily mean I should support the law. Espec

Re: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-06 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > So motorcycles riders who don't wear helmets cost the rest of us a lot. Its > not a > matter o free choice, rather its a matter of public health and safety. Those > who > object maybe should also be objecting to the Typhoid Mary laws that exi

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Scott Stroz
Here is a better link... http://bit.ly/qJGIvH On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Sam wrote: >> >> So you are not submissive to your wife? > > No I am not, nor is she submissive to me. Here is a link to some > definitions of 'submissive': > > htt

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Scott Stroz
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Sam wrote: > > So you are not submissive to your wife? No I am not, nor is she submissive to me. Here is a link to some definitions of 'submissive': http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=define%3A+submissive > It's a two way street if you want

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Sam
So you are not submissive to your wife? It's a two way street if you want it to work. I realize you think we should only elect alpha males but they aren't the only choice. Look at Obama, he's submissive to Michelle. Ok, bad example. . On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > On

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Sam
I did. You think since she's not the head of her house she can't be the head of government. You also seem to think being a submissive wife means she's subservient. That may be the case with some folks but I don't believe it to be so with her. I often recommend my wife to continue with her educat

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Scott Stroz
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Sam wrote: > > So it's the female thing. Got it. After that rather eloquent explanation, that is what you got out o fit? 'its a female thing'? I am sorry, but I do not want 'submissive' to be a word we can use to describe ANY of our politicians, especially our pr

Re: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-06 Thread Larry Lyons
Here's some data from a study by NHTSA that's very revealing. I'm reproducing the Exec summary here: (http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811208.PDF) The combined data set contains information on 104,472 motorcyclists involved in crashes in these 18 States during the years 2003, 2004, and 2005.

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Justin Scott
> So it's the female thing. Got it. Read into it what you like, but if a male candidate came out and implied he'd be a puppet for his wife to control, I'd take just as much issue with that. It just so happens that she claims to interpret the Bible in a way that supports a belief that women shoul

Re: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-06 Thread Larry Lyons
>The most expensive insurance claim related to a motorcycle accident >involves a woman who fell from the back of the cycle and was dragged >down the road because her jeans got caught on the kickstand. She >spent months in the hospital having multiple operations to reconstruct >her pelvic region,

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-06 Thread Sam
Back in the day you could buy a BMW or Benz in Germany, get it converted for use in the US and ship it. In the end it would cost the same as buying it here but you get a trip to Germany. Problem is it's not under warranty since it's gray market. I'm talking 30 years ago so things might have change

Cheating In Atlanta Public School System

2011-07-06 Thread Cameron Childress
Wow. Massive. Systemwide. Cheating. Talk about unintended consequences of all the measurements tied to funding by No Child Left Behind. Sheesh. "State investigators on Tuesday released the findings of a probe into the Atlanta Public Schools test-cheating scandal that tarnished the system's o

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-06 Thread Scott Stewart
Munich Germany? How are you getting it past state inspections and smog control laws? On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Maureen wrote: >> >> I wonder how aghast people would be.  Most people don't conside how >> much the sales tax would be before making a purchase.  Do peop

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Scott Stroz
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Medic wrote: > > psssh. Like we'd let YOU in. ;) > Godo point..I will need to find a place I have not poked fun of or pissed offthis may be difficult -- Scott Stroz --- You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can wonder

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-06 Thread Dana
I seem to remember a WalMart clerk telling me that if I did x y or z I did not need to pay the sales tax. I did at one point live in Washington and work in Portland so yeah I probably had it right just now but backward ... I personally don't recommend the commute btw. Predictably, the bridges are

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Sam
So it's the female thing. Got it. . On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Justin Scott wrote: > >> ...but if Michelle Bachmann is elected president, I am >> moving to Canada. > > I don't know much about her, but if this part of the article is > accurate I'd oppose her on these grounds alone: > > ---

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Maureen
+1 million I think they are trotting out Bachman so when Palin announces she doesn't look so much like the crazy lady. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > the minute ANY SORT of religious ANYTHING is mentioned > when in a campaign or whatever... i see red flags. > > im sorry,

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Medic
psssh. Like we'd let YOU in. ;) On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > ...but if Michelle Bachmann is elected president, I am moving to Canada. > > http://wapo.st/pYA6WM > > -- > Scott Stroz > --- > You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Scott Stroz
Justin, Yea, I had similar thoughts. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Justin Scott wrote: > >> ...but if Michelle Bachmann is elected president, I am >> moving to Canada. > > I don't know much about her, but if this part of the article is > accurate I'd oppose her on these grounds alone: > > --

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Ras Tafari
the minute ANY SORT of religious ANYTHING is mentioned when in a campaign or whatever... i see red flags. im sorry, i just do. nothing about running my country has a FUCKING thing to do with Religion. nothing. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Justin Scott wrote: > >> ...but if Michelle Bachma

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Justin Scott
> ...but if Michelle Bachmann is elected president, I am > moving to Canada. I don't know much about her, but if this part of the article is accurate I'd oppose her on these grounds alone: --- “The husband is to be the head of the wife, according to God.” It is a philosophy that Michele Bachmann

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Scott Stroz
Neither...because she is batshit crazy. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Sam wrote: > > Because she's a woman or she's white? :) > > > . > > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: >> >> ...but if Michelle Bachmann is elected president, I am moving to Canada. >> >> http://wapo.st/

Re: I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Sam
Because she's a woman or she's white? :) . On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > ...but if Michelle Bachmann is elected president, I am moving to Canada. > > http://wapo.st/pYA6WM > > -- > Scott Stroz > --- > You can make things happen, you can watch things happe

I know I have slammed others for saying similar things....

2011-07-06 Thread Scott Stroz
...but if Michelle Bachmann is elected president, I am moving to Canada. http://wapo.st/pYA6WM -- Scott Stroz --- You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can wonder what the f*&k happened. - Cpt. Phil Harris http://xkcd.com/386/ ~

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-06 Thread Judah McAuley
It's the opposite, no sales tax in Oregon. Washington has a sales tax but no income tax. Since Portland is right on the border with Washington, this leads to some complicated behavior, especially amongst very well to do people who try and make sure they have a residence in Washington and work in P

Re: Matt Liotta & PodPonics

2011-07-06 Thread Cameron Childress
That is cool. I run into Matt once in a blue moon, but it's been a few years. This is cool stuff - thanks for posting it! -Cameron On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > I know some of you know him, and several have met him, but I just felt like > giving a shout out to Matt Li

Re: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-06 Thread Sam
The problem used to be that the plastic helmet would wear down a bit, if dragged against pavement, until a certain point and then stop short snapping the users neck. I'm sure technology has fixed that problem by now. . On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:29 AM, G Money wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:

Matt Liotta & PodPonics

2011-07-06 Thread Erika L. Rich
I know some of you know him, and several have met him, but I just felt like giving a shout out to Matt Liotta this morning. Just feel good news for a change. He's been involved with organic produce for awhile now, and his PodPonics company is growing fast in the Atlanta region. I think it's AWES

Re: FairTax and the wealthy...

2011-07-06 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > From what I have seen, you're wasting your time. Agreed. -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430

Re: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-06 Thread G Money
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > No..The point is that the costs of all the bashed skulls would be a drain. > The one instance of butt/private bits scraping would not be enough to be > considered a drain because it was a one off whereas th

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-06 Thread Erika L. Rich
You are my hero! :) On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > We also routinely - based on hotel promotions - check into hotel rooms > in town, mess up the bed, take the paper and soaps and shampoos, and > then leave. We do this because of the points arbitrage: we can score > an i

RE: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-06 Thread Eric Roberts
They have a new thing called a Go car. You have parking lots in various spots around the city and you pre-arrange to pick up a car and then return it to any of the lots in the city or something like that. They are all hybrids or electric cars too. I live out in the far western burbs...none of t

RE: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-06 Thread Eric Roberts
They do...they usually go once or twice a month and pretty much buy in bulk. -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 11:46 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...) you'd need to be stocking

RE: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-06 Thread Eric Roberts
No..The point is that the costs of all the bashed skulls would be a drain. The one instance of butt/private bits scraping would not be enough to be considered a drain because it was a one off whereas the are probably hundreds or thousands of bashed skulls (don't know what the figures are but I can

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-06 Thread Sam
NYers shop in NJ to beat the sales tax. People drive to reservations to beat the sin tax on smokes. Shops in the diamond district ask you if you have someone you can trust in another state so they can sell you an engagement ring tax free. Then have your friend ship it back to you. . On Tue, Jul

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-06 Thread Maureen
"You can't fight City Hall" is propaganda, started by City Hall. Those who benefit from the current system want us to believe it cannot be changed. That is patently untrue, and we have a duty to prove them wrong. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:43 AM, Vivec wrote: > > This "Fair Tax" , or any change

Re: Dawrin Award Winner

2011-07-06 Thread Scott Stroz
Here is what I do nto understand about the helmet laws for those who ride motorcycles. In those states that have these laws, you can hop on your motorcycle in a pair of shorts and a t-shirt, but as long as you are wearing a helmet, you are 'safer' - even though the rest of your body has no protec

Re: Fair Tax (was: California tells online retailers ...)

2011-07-06 Thread Robert Munn
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:43 AM, Vivec wrote: > > This "Fair Tax" , or any change to the US tax system,will never happen > anyways. > I don't think the illusion will last as long as Brooks believes. All the political trickery in the world isn't going to save a system that is clearly broken. We ne