Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
With Walmart however its not just the employees they like to screw around, its the small and medium businesses that are the suppliers for the company. Walmart does not set out to screw anyone. A modern day fallacy perpetrated by statists in order to create a coorporate bogey man. What happens

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
They may not set out to dick people around, but they do so fully aware of what they are doing and make it their 'negotiation policy.' It's like I said, they don't give a damn about anything but the bottom line. If you want to work with Walmart they require almost cult like loyalty from you,

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-28 Thread Maureen
If the local businesses want my business, they can stop selling shoddy good at inflated prices. Especially clothes. I paid a bunch of money to a local vendor for a garment that fell apart after the second washing. Bought a similar garment at Walmart to replace it and have worn it for more

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-28 Thread Medic
They don't set out to dick people around. They set out to lower prices. As a guy who's had to deal directly with Walmart's head office numerous time and worked closely with a few companies that have supplied Walmart, I can say this is *kind of* true. They do set out to lower prices, but they

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Robert Munn
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: Once again, Robert, head back to the Jack Welch article you pimped out and tell me which of those accusations he makes that you agree with. It doesn't matter what I think about it. The CEOs are collectively sitting

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Vivec
In other words they are driving the economy into the ground and holding the United States people to ransom if their policies are not implemented. Hell of a thing to support: the takeover of a democracy by corporations. On 27 September 2010 04:15, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com wrote: It

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Eric Roberts
It's called a Corporatist (aka fascist) takeover...lets call a spade a spade... -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 5:53 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama In other words they are driving the economy

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
a spade a spade... -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 5:53 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama In other words they are driving the economy into the ground and holding the United States people to ransom

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Robert Munn
They are following what they see as the best interests of their shareholders. Compounding the problem, consumers are continuing to pay down debt rather than spend. Do we then blame consumers for dragging the economy down? Of course not. The President and Congress deserve the blame for creating a

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Vivec
So government must tailor their fiscal policy to suit big business in the US? On 27 September 2010 11:31, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com wrote: The President and Congress deserve the blame for creating a hostile environment for these companies, who understandably are keeping their money on

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread G Money
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: So government must tailor their fiscal policy to suit big business in the US? ALL business, not just BIG business. But yes, of course. Business drives everything, so why wouldn't you want a fiscal policy that encourages

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
the gobermint? On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:51 AM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: So government must tailor their fiscal policy to suit big business in the US? ALL business, not just BIG business. But yes, of course.

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Robert Munn
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 8:51 AM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: So government must tailor their fiscal policy to suit big business in the US? ALL business, not just BIG business. But yes, of course. Business drives

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Judah McAuley
Willful or not, this ignores basic economics. Businesses are, indeed, sitting on quite a bit of cash. Why isn't it being invested in hiring workers? The answer can be found in economic textbooks, not political screeds and the answer is this: demand is soft and productivity is high. When you can

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Jerry Barnes
The problem isn't particularly political. If consumer demand shot up do you think that companies really wouldn't hire workers because they don't like Obama? Actually it is. People are not buying luxury items since they believe that the current administration is driving the economy into the

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Jerry Barnes
So government must tailor their fiscal policy to suit big business in the US? No. Woodrow Wilson and FDR did this. It doesn't work. Just like stated above, all businesses should be treated fairly. J - The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Vivec
So if Business says that it wants complete deregulation of the financial markets in order to feel 'comfortable' should the Government do that? Haven't we already seen what happens when you allow Business to dictate the laws and regulations for your country? On 27 September 2010 11:51, G Money

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: The problem isn't particularly political. If consumer demand shot up do you think that companies really wouldn't hire workers because they don't like Obama? Actually it is.  People are not buying luxury items since

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: Once again, Robert, head back to the Jack Welch article you pimped out and tell me which of those accusations he makes that you agree with.

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
Actually that is not what he said. Really f'n strange that you would pick out the cnbc chunks of commentary instead of the real quotes. You even put fake quotes around it. He's there a month and he vilifies Las Vegas… he kills the hotel business, Welch said. You get all these little things

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
Speaking of CEO's thank don't trust Obama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDUabZCdaKY Video: Home Depot CEO, Obama’s Advisers “Don’t Have a Clue” :) On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Actually that is not what he said. Really f'n strange that you would pick

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread G Money
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: So if Business says that it wants complete deregulation of the financial markets in order to feel 'comfortable' should the Government do that? No, but thanks for the stupid question. Sorry to be so short, but I grow very

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Vivec
That's just it. No one is going against Business concerns. The government isn't actively doing anything that would prevent businesses from operating. If Government cannot pass any policies and protections that would in any way reduce the profit of businesses, regardless of their effect on the

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:07 AM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: I say Fiscal policies should be tailored with the interests of businesses in mind and you turn that into completely de-regulate the markets on the whim of businesses. It's a misleading question that bears no resemblance to

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread G Money
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: That's just it. No one is going against Business concerns. The government isn't actively doing anything that would prevent businesses from operating. If Government cannot pass any policies and protections that would in any

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: That's just it. No one is going against Business concerns. The government isn't actively doing anything that would prevent businesses from operating. You'd like to see businesses be prevented from operating? That sounds like

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Vivec
We had a financial meltdown because they WERE diametrically opposed. And they still are. There are many instances where it is not possible to protect the Public and increase the profits of Businesses that prey on that public at the same time. One example is Credit Card regulation. Business was

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread G Money
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: I think that the problem there is that you don't mention any counter-balancing interests. I guess I don't think I should have to every single time I post. When you say tailored with the interests of business and

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sisk, Kris
Wrong answer. The correct answer is: Increase business profits AND benefit the general public. The two are not diametrically opposed. I know, that probably doesn't compute with you...but that's part of your charm. Sometimes they ARE diametrically opposed. They don't HAVE to be, but a lot of the

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread G Money
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: By your rules unless there was some way to secure the previous profit margin of Businesses, there should have been no change to Credit Card regulations. And I don't agree with that. You don't agree with it because you still

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
Nice. You seem to have that a little backwards. It's GMoney that always enters discussions with ALL are idiots or racist or whatever you're point of the day is. Sam is the guy that always jumps in begging you fools to stop using the wide brush. If folks like you didn't hate the people that you

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread G Money
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: If folks like you didn't hate the people that you didn't agree with so much I'd have nothing to talk about here. You aren't disliked because of what you believe. You are disliked because you come off as a total asshole. --

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
Didn't you use that example last week and didn't Jerry shoot it down? They don't raise prices and they create as many new business as the ones they replace. Also, WalMart, like most retail jobs pay around minimum wage and employee college kids, housewives and retirees. If you are working there

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
I guess your thinking is people like you because they prefer real assholes. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:36 PM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: If folks like you didn't hate the people that you didn't agree with so much I'd

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread G Money
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I guess your thinking is people like you because they prefer real assholes. Have a great day Sammy. -- Glittering prizes and endless compromises Shatter the illusion of integrity

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I guess your thinking is people like you because they prefer real assholes. Have a great day Sammy. I hadn't thought, until this point, how much Sam sounds like Santorum Interesting.

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sisk, Kris
Didn't you use that example last week and didn't Jerry shoot it down? They don't raise prices and they create as many new business as the ones they replace. I must've missed it. I missed a lot of the list last week. It was a busy week. I'll have to go hunt through the archives. Also, WalMart,

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
must not say Don't insult Santorum... must not say Don't insult Santorum... must not say Don't insult Santorum... On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I guess your thinking is people like

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Judah McAuley
I didn't mean the person. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: must not say Don't insult Santorum... must not say Don't insult Santorum... must not say Don't insult Santorum... On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: There is nothing wrong with reducing the profits of businesses to benefit the general public. Except for the fact that rarely does anything result in the reduction of profits of businesses. Any potential reduction of profits will

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
With Walmart however its not just the employees they like to screw around, its the small and medium businesses that are the suppliers for the company. What happens is that the contracts allow for a renegotiation every year. Year 1 no problem, the supplier typically gives a reasonable price which

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Scott Stroz
To be honest, in this economy, I don't give a shit. I, like a lot of people, need to get the most out of each and every dollar I spend. The best place for that, in my opinion, is Wal-Mart. When the economy turns around, and I am no longer afraid that it may effect my job, then I can go back to

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
and that in a nutshell is why so many manufacturing jobs are going offshore. Its a classic behavioral trap, the short term positive consequences outweigh the long term negative ones. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: To be honest, in this economy, I don't

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: Didn't you use that example last week and didn't Jerry shoot it down? They don't raise prices and they create as many new business as the ones they replace. I must've missed it. I missed a lot of the list last week. It

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
Manufacturing is going overseas because they work for $5 a week. We can't compete with that. If Walmart doesn't do it the next guy will. Have you ever noticed K-mart, Target and Walmart sell a lot of the same crap. The only difference is K-mart pays Martha Stewart for her picture on the same item

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Scott Stroz
'behavioral trap'? When I was unemployed, do you think it would have been better for me and my family to purchase more expensive goods from places that were not Wal-Mart? What you call a 'behavioral trap', I call common sense. If you do not have a whole lot of money to play with, you need to be

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
here are some references http://www.usna.edu/Users/polisci/purkitt/behavioraltraps.ppt http://faculty.babson.edu/krollag/org_site/soc_psych/platt_soc_trap.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinforcement#Superimposed_schedules On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Scott Stroz
Those are really interesting, but you did not answer my question. When times are hard, the logical thing to do is make sure that what money you have is being spent wisely. Do you think its wise to spend more and get less simply so you can avoid buying stuff from Wal-Mart? Its a simple 'yes' or

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Eric Roberts
, September 27, 2010 1:53 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama Speaking of CEO's thank don't trust Obama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDUabZCdaKY Video: Home Depot CEO, Obama's Advisers Don't Have a Clue :) On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Eric Roberts
You mean like tax breaks for small businesses? -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 2:08 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: So

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Eric Roberts
found other ways to save money without fucking over my fellow humans. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 5:08 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama Those are really interesting, but you did not answer my

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread denstar
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: ... The problem isn't particularly political. If consumer demand shot up do you think that companies really wouldn't hire workers because they don't like Obama? Please sell me this widget. No, sorry, we're out of widgets and won't make

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: I would say yes because your money is not going to Walmart and you would not be rewarding bad behavior nor would your money be going to corporatist candidates.  By going to walmart you are only making it

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
It is a laughable approach to a real conversation. We all know why the economy is in the dump but he'll blame anybody except the government. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:46 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: ... The problem isn't

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
You could go to Target and pay 50% more for the same items. For some strange reason giving them more profit is better then giving anything to WalMart. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Eric Roberts

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread denstar
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Sam wrote: It is a laughable approach to a real conversation. We all know why the economy is in the dump but he'll blame anybody except the government. Heh. You're funny too! :Den -- Arrogance on the part of the meritorious is even more offensive to us

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
Thank you, I'll be here all week. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 7:49 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Sam wrote: It is a laughable approach to a real conversation. We all know why the economy is in the dump but he'll blame anybody except the government.

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Eric Roberts
if it was the last job on the planet. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 6:54 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: I

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Eric Roberts
...Except if you had been reading...he has blamed the government...the one that was led by George Bush for 8 years that got us into this mess. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 7:34 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread denstar
Shhh... they're the party that's going to lead us to enlightenment. :Den -- Art is not merely an imitation of the reality of nature, but in truth a metaphysical supplement to the reality of nature, placed alongside thereof for its conquest. Friedrich Nietzsche On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:08 PM,

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Jerry Barnes
Wal-mart lives by their motto: always low prices always. They don't set out to dick people around. They set out to lower prices. They are so cost conscious that their offices are furnished with floor samples and returns. Sometimes in their quest to lower prices, bad things happen. Some

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Jerry Barnes
When I was unemployed, do you think it would have been better for me and my family to purchase more expensive goods from places that were not Wal-Mart? You were supposed to pray at the alter of the nanny state and then everything would have been delivered to you. - While the deep concern of a

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Scott Stroz
work at Wal-mart if it was the last job on the planet. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 6:54 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Eric Roberts ow

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-26 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: Yeah...corporatist to be a socialist. And he wants to control the economy...except that he's totally unable to bring the economy around. Do you actually listen to anything you are saying Rob? Corporatist to be

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-26 Thread Judah McAuley
Once again, Robert, head back to the Jack Welch article you pimped out and tell me which of those accusations he makes that you agree with. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Larry C. Lyons
[mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 8:56 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama We lost 5 million jobs in the last two years. Add the 1.1 million you brag about and that's -3.9 million. Looks like Meg wins. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:24 PM

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Medic
Well his comments + the recession. The convention business didn't go elsewhere. They just didn't go. LV locals went ape-shit about his comments and he retracted them. As the economy has improved so has the convention business. I think the economy had much more to do than his comments. My last

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Eric Roberts
23, 2010 9:34 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: So at the end of 2009, 600,000 jobs were created and so far in 2010, 500,000 jobs have been created (1,100,000 for he math impaired

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Eric Roberts
To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: Are you that much of a partisan hack or do you actually agree that we shouldn't criticize corporate junkets to Las Vegas on taxpayer money, that we shouldn't

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Medic
...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 11:45 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: Are you that much of a partisan hack or do you actually agree that we shouldn't criticize corporate

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Sam
Larry you're going back to your evil ways. And as always you are very wrong. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: Hey don't confuse the ignorant twit with facts, it hurts his head to much to think. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Eric Roberts

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Sam
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: Well his comments + the recession. The convention business didn't go elsewhere. They just didn't go. LV locals went ape-shit about his comments and he retracted them. As the economy has improved so has the convention business.

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Medic
That's true. However Vegas *should* have been devastated. It's a place to go and blow your extra money. If you don't have extra money you shouldn't put yourself into hock so you can go to Vegas. Vegas would've been hurting even if Obama kept his mouth shut. P.S. You cracked me up with your GG

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Sam
But Obama singled out a local community as an evil waste. Nobody should do that. He could have said the same about Disney. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: That's true. However Vegas *should* have been devastated. It's a place to go and blow your extra money.

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Medic
Except Disney isn't a rotting cesspool of everything that's wrong with Western society. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: But Obama singled out a local community as an evil waste. Nobody should do that. He could have said the same about Disney. On Fri, Sep

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Jacob
: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 11:59 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama Fiorina is running against Boxer. Meg Whitman is running against ex-governor Jerry Brown. Both former CEOs of tech companies. Neither know squat about governing. Whitman's ads about what she is going

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:41 AM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: Except Disney isn't a rotting cesspool of everything that's wrong with Western society. Oh yes it is. Disney is way worse than Vegas in my book. Vegas is at least fairly honest about being a cesspool. Disney is the epitome of

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread denstar
I think Robstar freaking rocks. He's mellowed out quite a bit over the years, and I dig mellow. Plus, he knows how to surf, and that's like, Zen, yo! :Den -- All truly great thoughts are conceived by walking. Friedrich Nietzsche On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Medic wrote: /me rubs eyes

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:37 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: User does not = employee or job then number of people that do auctions as a full time job wouldn't boost that number a whole lot.  Besides, your claim was that she created more jobs, not users. A chunk of

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Maureen
If you wanted to be honest your presentation, you would have a subject line that says Some CEOs can't stand Obama.The hyperbole of stating this opinion as if all CEOs hold it is beneath you. Guarantee that for everyone you find that dislikes him, I can find one that likes him plenty.

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Eric Roberts
That certainly wasn't an honest answer to Judah's question... -Original Message- From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:56 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama /me rubs eyes You realize you're talking to RoMunn right? I

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Judah McAuley
Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama /me rubs eyes You realize you're talking to RoMunn right? I might disagree with just about every political point he makes, but dishonest is not a word I would ever think to use to describe him. Crazy misguided Bush loving weirdo maybe, but dishonest

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Medic
To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama /me rubs eyes You realize you're talking to RoMunn right? I might disagree with just about every political point he makes, but dishonest is not a word I would ever think to use to describe him. Crazy misguided Bush loving weirdo

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Judah McAuley
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com wrote: CEOs feel under siege and that is holding the economy back. Here are a few gems below. I especially like what Rodgers from Cypress Semi said, maybe because it is what I have been saying for the past two years. By the

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Judah McAuley
Believe's *what*? He didn't answer anything substantiative. It was an evasion, not an answer. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: I believe that _he_ believes it. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: That

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Jerry Barnes
Big business doesn't stand for any of that. They are parasites on the engine of the American economy and are anti-competitive. They are models for greed, sinecure, lack of respect for their community and the evil of failing upward. Read up on Woodrow Wilson. He had visions of incorporating big

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: If you wanted to be honest your presentation, you would have a subject line that says Some CEOs can't stand Obama.    The hyperbole of stating this opinion as if all CEOs hold it is beneath you. I never said all CEOs, and

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: By the way, I wanted to go back to the original (and false) assertion that CEOs feel under siege here. Obama is a corporatist. Plain and simple and one of the things I really don't like about him. But you know what?

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Sam
Buffet went off Obama a long time ago. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: If you wanted to be honest your presentation, you would have a subject line that says Some CEOs can't stand Obama.    The hyperbole of stating this opinion as if all CEOs hold it is

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Maureen
Did you not create this message with a subject of Why CEO's can't stand Obama? On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: If you wanted to be honest your presentation, you would have a subject

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: If you wanted to be honest your presentation, you would have a subject line that says Some CEOs can't stand Obama.    The hyperbole of stating this

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Maureen
Fiorina is running against Boxer. Meg Whitman is running against ex-governor Jerry Brown. Both former CEOs of tech companies. Neither know squat about governing. Whitman's ads about what she is going to do to solve the budget crisis are laughable. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Judah

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Maureen
The only thing most tech CEOs who are currently running in California know about jobs is how to outsource them. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: I would think that the people who run the companies that would actually be creating the jobs might have a

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Vivec
Yes. These CEOs knew so much that they crashed the world financial markets. Since when do CEOs care two dicks about creating jobs? THey care about Profits and milking the consumers and the country of every single cent they can. If they could fire everyone and still get their work done and

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:00 AM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing most tech CEOs who are currently running in California know about jobs is how to outsource them. Because in the end the boss of the CEO is the share holder, not the employee. Intel Wed Jan 21, 2009

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Judah McAuley
Ah, of course, my mistake. Whitman is responsible for the Skype acquisition. That was a master stroke of business genius. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: Fiorina is running against Boxer.  Meg Whitman is running against ex-governor Jerry Brown. Both

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Really? and how often do they listen to their bosses. Name me 5 cases where the CEO has been voted out by the shareholders over the last 10 years. or for that matter how often has a shareholder initiative been effected by a fortune 500 company? On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Casey Dougall

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
Name me 5 cases where the CEO has been voted out by the shareholders over the last 10 years. Bear Sterns in 2008. Too little too late since this happened in Jan and BS was absorbed by ML in Mar. Mecom in 2010 Bank of America 2009 HP 2010 Motorola 2008 Fannie May 2003 Citigroup 2007 Home depot

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: Actually, I'd say that politicians are paid to create jobs, though not directly. Politicians are paid to foster a good economic environment, which is exactly where Obama has failed so miserably. Btw, I'm sure that

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-23 Thread Robert Munn
Meg Whitman built eBay from a little company into a tech giant. She created a hell of a lot more jobs than Obama. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: Ah, of course, my mistake. Whitman is responsible for the Skype acquisition. That was a master stroke of

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