Interesting. I also didn't know that James Blunt was a British
Officer. I'll have to do some more digging later. Good reading but
customers need fixing :)
Cheers,
Judah
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:37 AM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incident_at_Pristina
>
> He was relieved f
When you are oprressing someone...don't be suprised when they call for your
destruction. They have never had a fair shake, while Israel has always had
sugar daddy America making sure that no action is taken agaisnt them. Do
you realize that at the time if the 2nd Gulf War, that Israel had 3 time
"Well, to be honest, the guy was a douche officer, and he almost kicked off a
war with Russia trying to make himself look good in eastern Europe."
To become as highly ranked as he was, I don't have a problem believing that
he was a douche bag.
"I don't know if I buy it."
I can respect that.
W
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incident_at_Pristina
He was relieved from his position at NATO over it.
My unit, C co 2/505th PIR was the first non special operations unit in
country doing an air assault into Kosovo from Macedonia.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
>
> I hadn
I hadn't heard anything bad about Wes Clark as an officer before. Do
you have more info on the bit about almost kicking off a war with
Russia?
Cheers,
Judah
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:25 AM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> hmmm
>
> Well, to be honest, the guy was a douche officer, and he almost kicked off
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:24 AM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> Ok, they are people, living there, on the ground. Cool. I get it.
>
> If they stop calling for the destruction of Israel, stop lobbing rockets at
> people, and sending of their children as homicide bombers, this could be
> worked out.
That
hmmm
Well, to be honest, the guy was a douche officer, and he almost kicked off
a war with Russia trying to make himself look good in eastern Europe.
I don't know if I buy it.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> "Or maybe Russia is getting ready to get 'their share' of t
Ok, they are people, living there, on the ground. Cool. I get it.
If they stop calling for the destruction of Israel, stop lobbing rockets at
people, and sending of their children as homicide bombers, this could be
worked out.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
>
> I'm say
"Or maybe Russia is getting ready to get 'their share' of the country after
an attack. Divided Germany comes to mind."
I could totally see that.
"Diplomacy in action. Looks like Obama doesn't want a war...yet."
Of course not. September or October works much better with the reelection
bid.
I'm saying that there is a strong group of people whose families have
lived in that area for many many generations, who possess a common
identity and who are being fucked over by people who try to argue away
their existence and rights based on lawyerly parsing of dubious minor
points of history in
independent country ruled under a League of Nations
> Mandate.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:20 PM, LRS Scout
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > > A subset of the roman empire yes?
> >>> >> > >
>
t;> > > A subset of the roman empire yes?
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > As in not an independent nation state?
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Eric Roberts <
>>> >> > > ow.
Original Message-
> >> >> > >> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
> >> >> > >> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 6:59 PM
> >> >> > >> To: cf-community
> >> >> > >> Subject: Re: R
independent nation state?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Eric Roberts <
>> >> > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Roma
; -Original Message-
> > > >> > >> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
> > > >> > >> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 6:59 PM
> > > >> > >> To: cf-community
> > > >> > >> Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northe
t; >
>> >> > > As in not an independent nation state?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Eric Roberts <
>> >> > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >>
>>
To: cf-community
> > >> > >> Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern Border
> And
> > >> > Waiting
> > >> > >> For A Western Attack
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >
gt; Romans called it Palestine after they sent the Jews on their
> >> > diaspora...it
> >> > >> wasn't a subset, but the entire area...
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> -Original Message-
> >> &g
>>
>> > >> Romans called it Palestine after they sent the Jews on their
>> > diaspora...it
>> > >> wasn't a subset, but the entire area...
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> -Original Message-
>> > >
t; Waiting
> >> > >> For A Western Attack
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> When was it anything else but a subsection of another country?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> You know when? When it was Judea, that'
t; > diaspora...it
> > > >> wasn't a subset, but the entire area...
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -Original Message-
> > > >> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
> > > >> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012
er country?
>> > >>
>> > >> You know when? When it was Judea, that's when.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Eric Roberts <
>> > >> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>> >
t
> > >> wasn't a subset, but the entire area...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
> > >> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 6:59 PM
> > >> To: cf-co
is that? There is documentation going back to the Roman empire
> >> > calling he region Palestine...
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
> >> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:0
n its own
> >> right...
> >>
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Palestine
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 6:51 AM
> >>
on state?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Eric Roberts <
>>> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Romans called it Palestine after they sent the Jews on their
>>>> diaspora...it wasn't a subset, but the
ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Palestine
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 6:51 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern Border And Waiting
> For A
, April 17, 2012 6:51 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern Border And Waiting
For A Western Attack
durig the crusades it was its own kingdom. from 1918 through 1949 it was an
independent country ruled under a League of Nations Mandate.
On Mon, Apr 16,
-
>> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 6:59 PM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern Border And Waiting
>> For A Western Attack
>>
>>
>> When was it anything else b
but the entire area...
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 6:59 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern Border And Waiting
> For A Western Attack
>
>
> Whe
is documentation going back to the Roman empire
> calling he region Palestine...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:04 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran'
lling
> he region Palestine...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:04 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern Border And Waiting
> For A Western Attack
>
>
How is that? There is documentation going back to the Roman empire calling
he region Palestine...
-Original Message-
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:04 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern Borde
It seems to me that those slavering most for a war are those who will
not be fighting it.
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:23 PM, PT wrote:
>
> Iran has a pretty decent infrastructure. Something like 3/4 of the
> population are college educated, women have more rights than in a lot of
> other Islamic
Iran has a pretty decent infrastructure. Something like 3/4 of the
population are college educated, women have more rights than in a lot of
other Islamic states, and they even build all of their own military
equipment. They wouldn't be a bad country to have as friends if they
didn't have a d
Minor correction: The decisions are being made by politicians who are
owned by the weapons manufacturer and oil companies.
Iran and Ahmadinejad are just that latest bogeyman. If they conceded
to all the current requests, next week there would be a new one.
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Mi
The decisions are not being made by the weapons and oil businesses
alone. I'm not even convinced that they are making the decisions at
all. Circling like vultures to take advantage maybe but not actively
pushing.
A vague 'They' is an overly broad brush to use in any case. I see one
bat ass crazy
True. But those who are rational and sane aren't making the decisions.
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Michael Dinowitz
wrote:
>
> No one rational wants war. No one sane wants war.
>
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Maureen wrote:
>>
>> Those who manufacturer weapons and supply the militar
No one rational wants war. No one sane wants war.
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> Those who manufacturer weapons and supply the military slaver at the
> thought of war, and right now they are one of the most powerful forces
> making decisions in the US, right behind the Petro
Not a single comment, no one wants to refute anything I've said? Agree
with anything I've said?
"Those who stand for nothing will fall for anything."
- Alexander Hamilton
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:03 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
> Agreed.
>
> That's why the way I see out of this mess requires us to u
Those who manufacturer weapons and supply the military slaver at the
thought of war, and right now they are one of the most powerful forces
making decisions in the US, right behind the Petroleum industry, which
wants the land in the middle east. It is very naive to say no one
wants war.
On Mon,
No one has tried it? You have been reading the news for the last X
number of months/years, right? Offers of deals to help out Iran,
requests for them to live up to their signed agreements as per the
nuclear non-proliferation act, etc. Before there were sanctions there
was diplomacy and even now th
Agreed.
That's why the way I see out of this mess requires us to use overwhelming
force against them. To the point of capitulation.
This won't work as a one nation solution though.
Ok, look, I have spent years of my life in Muslim countries. Not just
Afghanistan, but places like Egypt, Kuwait
It's hard to know how well diplomacy would have worked in situations
over the last 20 years, because no one has tried it. Certainly it was
rejected out of hand by the Bush administration prior to the wars in
Iraq and Afghanistan. Even when Saddam offered to have discussions,
Bush refused.
On Mo
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:13 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> Look, we screwed up, overthrew their government and put a tin pot dictator
> in power. They revolted and created their bat shit crazy Islamic
> republic. It should have and could have ended there. I mean it took us a
> while to get ove th
You may remember a little thing called the War of 1812. Yeah, took
awhile before relationship between the US and England normalized.
In general, though, I totally agree with you. But are we going
normalize relationship by going to war with them again? You know that
we won't even do a real war. We
Look, we screwed up, overthrew their government and put a tin pot dictator
in power. They revolted and created their bat shit crazy Islamic
republic. It should have and could have ended there. I mean it took us a
while to get ove the revolutionary war, but now we're the best of friends
with Eng
Diplomacy in action. Looks like Obama doesn't want a war...yet.
> Go Go USA!
> Starting Wars is the way!
Events do not wait as Obama plays a delay defense
By Jackson Diehl, Published: April 15
Barack Obamas foreign policy strategy in this election year might be
best summed up by William F. B
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:52 AM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> I have something of a personal stake in the this.
>
> Two of my friends were killed by an EFP mine with Made in Iran all over
> it. Look they started a war with us back in the 70's over some admittedly
> bad shit the CIA did, and they haven
I have something of a personal stake in the this.
Two of my friends were killed by an EFP mine with Made in Iran all over
it. Look they started a war with us back in the 70's over some admittedly
bad shit the CIA did, and they haven't stopped, and they aren't going to.
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1
It won't even take a full scale war, Israel has proven that in the past.
We don't need to nation build here folks, don't need to even land troops.
Just break shit and take lives, we're good at that.
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Michael Dinowitz <
mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote:
>
> I se
I see constant and ongoing attempts at diplomacy. Attempts that fail
against Iran. War is the last resort, but in some cases it is a valid
resort.
> Irrelevant.
>
> Going to war with the country isn't the answer, clearly.
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Because diplomacy has worked so well in the past right?
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Vivec wrote:
>
> Irrelevant.
>
> Going to war with the country isn't the answer, clearly.
>
> On 16 April 2012 11:22, Michael Dinowitz
> wrote:
> >
> > Because Iran with a Nuke will bring world peace!
> >
Irrelevant.
Going to war with the country isn't the answer, clearly.
On 16 April 2012 11:22, Michael Dinowitz wrote:
>
> Because Iran with a Nuke will bring world peace!
>
>> Go Go USA!
>> Starting Wars is the way!
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Or maybe Russia is getting ready to get 'their share' of the country
after an attack. Divided Germany comes to mind.
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