Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-31 Thread Jerry Barnes
It's probably not a shocker to anyone, but NBC did some creative editing with the 911 tape. NBC played the conversation on the “Today Show” as: “This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.” The unabridged version is: Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on

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2012-03-30 Thread Dana
10:50 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online It may be legal and justified, but it's still unequivocally his fault. At this point, all rationality has left the building. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad

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2012-03-30 Thread Dana
for his execution. -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:50 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online It may be legal and justified, but it's still unequivocally his fault

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2012-03-30 Thread Sam
Plenty of white people get shot all the time so I guess you're wrong. . On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: LOL...if this would have been a white person that got shot, Sam and Jerry would be salivating for his execution.

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2012-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
He was a chapter president...ok...so? Why is he important? -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:40 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online Some relatively insignificant guy

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2012-03-29 Thread LRS Scout
president...ok...so? Why is he important? -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:40 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online Some relatively insignificant guy who

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2012-03-29 Thread Vivec
New video AT the police station shows a clean shaven, neat Zimmerman without the horrible injuries, blood and soiled clothing that should come from a beating. Did they allow him to go home, take a shower and clean himself up before taking him to the station I wonder?

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2012-03-29 Thread Scott Stroz
Not only would they have needed to give him time shower and clean up, but they would have needed to give him a week or so for his supposed injuries to heal. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: New video AT the police station shows a clean shaven, neat Zimmerman

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2012-03-29 Thread Sam
I guess his nose wasn't broken either. . On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: New video AT the police station shows a clean shaven, neat Zimmerman without the horrible injuries, blood and soiled clothing that should come from a beating. Did they allow him to

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Scott Stroz
Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online Some relatively insignificant guy who was the president of the NCAAP in the 12th largest city in Texas (87th nationally) has a problem with some other polarizing and extreme guy...  I guess it's interesting on some level

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread GMoney
: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:40 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online Some relatively insignificant guy who was the president of the NCAAP in the 12th largest city in Texas (87th

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2012-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
[mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 5:01 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online New video AT the police station shows a clean shaven, neat Zimmerman without the horrible injuries, blood and soiled clothing that should come from

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2012-03-29 Thread Vivec
Yeah but what does that mean for the Witnesses who say they saw Trayvon beating Zimmerman? His lawyer says that they have witnesses, and the police say they have eye witness reports. Would these people really lie so brazenly about something like this? On 29 March 2012 08:42, Eric Roberts

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2012-03-29 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:42 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: Simply put I see this as race baiting of the worst kind. I can agree with the fact that people on all sides are using in ugly ways. I don't think I would paint the nation with that broad brush, however. Personally, if I had

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2012-03-29 Thread Sam
I'm waiting for Holder to bring felony charges against him. I know, I'll be waiting a long time. . On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:42 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: Simply put I see this as race baiting of

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2012-03-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
Doesn't mean that this crime was not racially motivated. That logic cuts both ways. It doesn't mean that the crime was racially motivated. Also, at this point, we don't even have a crime. There are no charges pending, unless something has changed recently. J - Ninety percent of

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2012-03-29 Thread Judah McAuley
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: Also, at this point, we don't even have a crime.  There are no charges pending, unless something has changed recently. At this point, we have a dead kid. Whether or not criminal charges have been filed, let's keep in

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2012-03-29 Thread LRS Scout
And it may be his own fault. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: Also, at this point, we don't even have a crime. There are no charges pending, unless something has changed

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2012-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
checked to make sure cf-community was online Yeah but what does that mean for the Witnesses who say they saw Trayvon beating Zimmerman? His lawyer says that they have witnesses, and the police say they have eye witness reports. Would these people really lie so brazenly about something like

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2012-03-29 Thread Judah McAuley
By Zimmerman's own account, he was stalking the kid through the neighborhood and the phone calls (the kid's and Zimmerman's) indicate that the kid was trying to get away from Zimmerman. I'm willing to hold open doubt and say that Zimmerman may not end up being legally culpable. However, not a

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2012-03-29 Thread LRS Scout
[mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 9:02 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online Yeah but what does that mean for the Witnesses who say they saw Trayvon beating Zimmerman? His lawyer says that they have witnesses, and the police

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2012-03-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
At this point, we have a dead kid. Whether or not criminal charges have been filed, let's keep in mind that there was a kid walking back from the store with a bag of skittles and he is now dead. That is true. It is Zimmerman's fault that kid is dead. At this point, this is not true.

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2012-03-29 Thread Scott Stroz
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: Also, at this point, we don't even have a crime.  There are no charges pending, unless something has changed recently. Just because no charges have been filed does not mean a crime was not committed. -- Scott Stroz

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2012-03-29 Thread Judah McAuley
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: It is Zimmerman's fault that kid is dead. At this point, this is not true.  Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty and he has not even been charged with anything. This may change in the future. Unless the kid

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2012-03-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
Just because no charges have been filed does not mean a crime was not committed. Okay. But what crime? There might be a crime of battery against Trayvon leading to a defensive shooting or there might be a crime committed by Zimmerman for his actions. I thought it was clear that when I said

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
Unless the kid grabbed the gun and pulled the trigger himself, it is Zimmerman who fired the shot and therefore his fault that the kid is dead. Uhhh. There are at least two main narratives here. One says Zimmerman killed Trayvon for some twisted or misguided reason and the other is that

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2012-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
: just checked to make sure cf-community was online Source? On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Right off the bat, witnesses were saying that police were telling them what to say. I remember hearing that from the initial reports

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2012-03-29 Thread LRS Scout
To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online Source? On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Right off the bat, witnesses were saying that police were telling them what to say. I remember hearing

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2012-03-29 Thread Medic
then it is not Zimmerman's fault. It may be legal and justified, but it's still unequivocally his fault. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

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2012-03-29 Thread K-Sea - dvsDJTV.com
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: then it is not Zimmerman's fault. It may be legal and justified, but it's still unequivocally his fault. County Jail will show you that Latinos do not get along with African Americans. Just sayin... In Miami and Florida

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2012-03-29 Thread LRS Scout
Simply because he was the CAUSE of death doesn't make it his FAULT. Fault implies guilt, which cannot be ascertained at this point. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: then it is not Zimmerman's fault. It may be legal and justified, but it's still

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2012-03-29 Thread Judah McAuley
I guess I have a different definition of the words. I pulled life support from my mom. I killed her. It was my fault. Was it the right choice? Yes. Do I wish I had done something different? No. Was it still my actions that caused her death? Yes. Zimmerman, it seems, pulled the trigger. He killed

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
It may be legal and justified, but it's still unequivocally his fault. At this point, all rationality has left the building. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the

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2012-03-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
I guess I have a different definition of the words. Generally speaking, the word fault carries a negative connotation. From a dictionary: responsibility for wrongdoing or failure. So, you may use the word fault and view your actions in any way you want. I'll stick with the common vernacular.

RE: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
LOL...if this would have been a white person that got shot, Sam and Jerry would be salivating for his execution. -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:50 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
[mailto:chestypul...@beachbum.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 8:48 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online There is nobody except the Zimmerman and the eyewitnesses who know what happened that night, including the parents, Jesse and Al

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2012-03-28 Thread Cameron Childress
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Heard_on_Radio_Soulwax_Pt._2 Track 18-22 (including SkeeLo) is the sweet spot in this set... -Cameron On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 7:37 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: wheres the like button on this damned thing. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Cameron

RE: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-28 Thread Eric Roberts
You might be right, but I don’t recall them saying VA... -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:44 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online I thought Zimmerman's father

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2012-03-28 Thread Eric Roberts
I di recall them saying that his mother worked in the clerk of courts office... -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:44 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online I thought

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2012-03-28 Thread LRS Scout
- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:44 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online I thought Zimmerman's father was a retired Judge from Virginia. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Eric Roberts ow

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2012-03-28 Thread Cameron Childress
Some relatively insignificant guy who was the president of the NCAAP in the 12th largest city in Texas (87th nationally) has a problem with some other polarizing and extreme guy... I guess it's interesting on some level, but it ain't exactly news. In my opinion this sort of thing is not

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2012-03-27 Thread Dana
I have been getting bombarded on another list about this and am surprised nobody here has mentioned it: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/03/gingrich-calls-obamas-trayvon-martin-remarks-disgraceful/ I know Maureen thinks we should ignore the idiots but I am not sure that's what's called

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2012-03-27 Thread LRS Scout
The original story, Orlando Sentinel, don't know the paper but if true this is damning to the boy. http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-26/news/os-trayvon-martin-zimmerman-account-20120326_1_miami-schools-punch-unarmed-black-teenager On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:54 AM, Dana

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2012-03-27 Thread Dana
don't really know anything about the paper either, tho I'm pretty sure somehow, maybe from osmosis when I was in Florida, that it's like the local evening paper there. Don't know its politics but the entire Orlando area is pretty redneck. this might be one of those f*d up cases where everyone is

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2012-03-27 Thread Vivec
Marijuana doesn't make you violent though. The intent of the leak is simply to discredit the victim. However, this is a lot more information than I had read before. I had never read the details of Zimmerman's side of the story before this article. People are also saying that all the photos we

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2012-03-27 Thread Matthew Small
There is nobody except the Zimmerman and the eyewitnesses who know what happened that night, including the parents, Jesse and Al. This is the same thing that happened to the Duke Lacrosse players - people making up their minds about what happened before investigating. A lynch mob has formed

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2012-03-27 Thread Scott Stroz
That is a good point, we may never know what really happened. However, my contention is if Trayvon had shot killed Zimmerman he would have been arrested that night. regardless of 'Stand Your Ground'. Put another way - if everything else happened exactly as it has been portrayed, but Zimmerman

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2012-03-27 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: And there is nothing anyone can say or show that will convince me otherwise. You people are racist, and there is NOTHING you can so or say to convince me otherwise! Nice position.

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2012-03-27 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:54 AM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote: I have been getting bombarded on another list about this and am surprised nobody here has mentioned it: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/03/gingrich-calls-obamas-trayvon-martin-remarks-disgraceful/ Long story

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2012-03-27 Thread Scott Stroz
I guess that was a bit harsh. OK, its possible I can be convinced otherwise. But I stand by my opinion that if Zimmerman was black or Trayvon had been the one with the gun, they would have been in jail that night. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:39 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar

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2012-03-27 Thread Tony
what's your point? the kid was a suspended from school thug. the man was Hispanic, neither were white. On Tuesday, March 27, 2012, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: I guess that was a bit harsh. OK, its possible I can be convinced otherwise. But I stand by my opinion that if Zimmerman

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2012-03-27 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: I guess that was a bit harsh. OK, its possible I can be convinced otherwise. But I stand by my opinion that if Zimmerman was black or Trayvon had been the one with the gun, they would have been in jail that night. I

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2012-03-27 Thread Scott Stroz
I thought my point was quite clear: if it was a black man who pulled the trigger (regardless of the race of the victim), I firmly believe he would have been placed under arrest as soon as he was identified and located. The fact that Trayvon may or may not have been suspended from school is a red

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2012-03-27 Thread Scott Stroz
Do you mean the police chief that has 'stepped aside' in the wake of how this was handled? :D On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:15 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: I guess that was a bit harsh. OK, its possible I can be

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2012-03-27 Thread Scott Stroz
I honestly don't know why I feel the way I do. Its just a gut feeling. I know full well I could be wrong. Doesn't change the way I feel. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:15 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: I guess that

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-27 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: I honestly don't know why I feel the way I do. Its just a gut feeling. I know full well I could be wrong. Doesn't change the way I feel. I understand...my gut feeling is pretty much the same. But it's worthwhile to try

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2012-03-27 Thread LRS Scout
I'm not making any assumptions in the case, and I agree the marijuana stuff is BS and doesn't pertain. Now, people saying the Kid attacked the guy certainly does. You can't do that. Not even if someone is following you around. Who knows. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:24 PM, GMoney

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2012-03-27 Thread Scott Stroz
Waitso its wrong to go after a guy who is stalking you, but its OK for that guy to shoot you if you do? Not sure I agree with that logic. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:07 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not making any assumptions in the case, and I agree the marijuana stuff is BS

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2012-03-27 Thread Sam
Your allowed one hit, then the point is made. . On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: Waitso its wrong to go after a guy who is stalking you, but its OK for that guy to shoot you if you do? Not sure I agree with that logic.

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2012-03-27 Thread LRS Scout
They were in the open and in public. You have no expectation of privacy in public. You also don't have the right to assault anyone. So, maybe it's messed up, but that's the way it would work yeah. *IF* the kid actually assaulted the guy this case is totally different than what the media, his

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2012-03-27 Thread LRS Scout
Not even that. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Your allowed one hit, then the point is made. . On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: Waitso its wrong to go after a guy who is stalking you, but its OK for that guy to

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2012-03-27 Thread Cameron Childress
There is a line where deadly force is called for and one where it isn't. I don't know what went down, but I find it somewhat difficult to believe that a 130lb kid was a huge threat to what looks to be a pretty stocky dude (Zimmerman). Especially a threat to the point that Zimmerman felt that his

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2012-03-27 Thread LRS Scout
From what I hear this kid isn't the little skinny dude the pics we have seen of this to this point make him out to be but rather larger. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: There is a line where deadly force is called for and one where it isn't. I

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2012-03-27 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:17 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: From what I hear this kid isn't the little skinny dude the pics we have seen of this to this point make him out to be but rather larger. Yes, I heard the same. I think that last report (CNN?) was that he was about 6 feet

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2012-03-27 Thread Jerry Barnes
There is a line where deadly force is called for and one where it isn't. I don't know what went down, but I find it somewhat difficult to believe that a 130lb kid was a huge threat to what looks to be a pretty stocky dude I don't know anything about this kids physical stature other than what I

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2012-03-27 Thread Cameron Childress
There you go. An inch shorter than I am and 80 lbs lighter. I can tell you that doesn't sound very intimidating to me at all, but you never know. This kid may have been a superman-like athlete with fists like sledge hammers. -Cameron On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Jerry Barnes

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2012-03-27 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: There is a line where deadly force is called for and one where it isn't. I don't know what went down, but I find it somewhat difficult to believe that a 130lb kid was a huge threat to what looks to be a pretty stocky

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2012-03-27 Thread Eric Roberts
should be in jail, regardless if the shooting was accidental or not. -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:54 AM To: cf-community Subject: just checked to make sure cf-community was online I have been getting bombarded on another list

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2012-03-27 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:39 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: If he was 6'4, 250...would it really change anything? It might. When it comes to the right to use deadly force, you really actually have to legitimately believe that your life was in danger. If a 5 year old carrying skittles

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2012-03-27 Thread Scott Stroz
or not. -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:54 AM To: cf-community Subject: just checked to make sure cf-community was online I have been getting bombarded on another list about this and am surprised nobody here has mentioned

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2012-03-27 Thread Eric Roberts
[mailto:chestypul...@beachbum.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 8:48 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online There is nobody except the Zimmerman and the eyewitnesses who know what happened that night, including the parents, Jesse and Al

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2012-03-27 Thread Eric Roberts
BTW...Zimmerman's dad is retired judge from that district...nothing fishy there, right? -Original Message- From: Matthew Small [mailto:chestypul...@beachbum.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 8:48 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

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2012-03-27 Thread Eric Roberts
According to reports, there is a history here of discrimination against blacks by the police... -Original Message- From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 11:16 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online On Tue

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2012-03-27 Thread Eric Roberts
Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:53 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online They were in the open and in public. You have no expectation of privacy in public. You also don't have the right

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2012-03-27 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: According to reports, there is a history here of discrimination against blacks by the police... My understanding from people who've lived in Orlando is that it's got quite a few racial problems across the

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2012-03-27 Thread Eric Roberts
[mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:02 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online To be fair, he was told to 'stand down' by the 911 operator. Its possible the person he spoke with is NOT a police officer or even employed by the police

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2012-03-27 Thread Scott Stroz
[mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:02 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online To be fair, he was told to 'stand down' by the 911 operator. Its possible the person he spoke with is NOT a police officer or even employed by the police

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2012-03-27 Thread Eric Roberts
. -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:19 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: According

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2012-03-27 Thread Eric Roberts
...they have since admitted to that not being a pic of Martin. -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:19 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Eric

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2012-03-27 Thread Vivec
All this is why I associate Republicans with evil. Everything they support seems to be contrary to the public good. On 27 March 2012 17:05, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.comwrote: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/03/26/452310/what-everyone-needs-to-kn

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2012-03-27 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: The pic that shows Martin as a thug, was faked...conservative run Twitchy was the source of the pic showing Martin wearing baggy pants and flipping the bird...they have since admitted to that not being a pic

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2012-03-27 Thread Vivec
The edge media tends to filter through to the mainstream media. There are also millions of people that read edge media and believe it to be true. So it does set the stage and frame the case for many people. On 27 March 2012 17:11, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't seen

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-27 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: So it does set the stage and frame the case for many people. I choose not to be one of them. -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-27 Thread Dana
according to the guy that wrote the law, yes you can if you reasonably feel threatened enough. What enough might mean, or reasonably is the question. So Zimmerman got a bloody nose. Wah wah. He's alive. Based on what I know right now, I'd say decking him might be reasonable, banging his head on

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-27 Thread Dana
why would you not be able to defend yourself just because it happens you're outside when you need to? On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:52 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: They were in the open and in public. You have no expectation of privacy in public. You also don't have the right to

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-27 Thread Dana
if you're that scared, don't get out of your car, is my position. Zimmerman created the situation based on what I have seen. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: There is a line where deadly force is called for and one where it isn't.  I don't know

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-27 Thread Dana
so? He's still a kid walking down the street with a bag of candy, talking on the phone to a girl. Zimmerman thought be might be looking for something to steal. So he shoots him? The assumption is a bit racist but the logic is DEFINITELY racist. You can't pro-actively shoot black kids so they

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-27 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote: if you're that scared, don't get out of your car, is my position. Zimmerman created the situation based on what I have seen. Yup. -Cameron ... ~| Order

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-27 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote: I disagree with thug -- it's not proven. My son is 6'4 and that doesn't make him a thug. I wish I was little bit taller, I wish I was a baller I wish I had a girl who looked good I would call her I wish I had a rabbit in a

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-27 Thread Dana
[mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 11:16 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: I guess that was a bit harsh. OK, its possible I can be convinced otherwise

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-27 Thread Dana
: just checked to make sure cf-community was online To be fair, he was told to 'stand down' by the 911 operator. Its possible the person he spoke with is NOT a police officer or even employed by the police. Different places do thigns differently with 911. Where I worked in NJ, the 2 counties I

RE: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-27 Thread Eric Roberts
This was also used on Fox and several other media outlets. Stormfront also helped spread the fake image... -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 4:11 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-27 Thread Dana
Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 4:11 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: The pic that shows

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-27 Thread Sam
A Twitter aggregator called Twitchy, which tracks viral content, retracted a viral image when it discovered it was a fake. And apologized. Sounds about right. . On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-27 Thread Jerry Barnes
If he was 6'4, 250...would it really change anything? If, and I repeat if, Zimmerman was on the ground being beaten, then yes. He would have a harder time dislodging a 6' 4 250 pounder. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-27 Thread LRS Scout
Attack != Defense. I can go outside and randomly follow people around if I want to. They can't just assault me for it. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote: why would you not be able to defend yourself just because it happens you're outside when you need to?

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-27 Thread LRS Scout
wheres the like button on this damned thing. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote: I disagree with thug -- it's not proven. My son is 6'4 and that doesn't make him a thug. I wish

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-27 Thread Medic
It's called Send ;) On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 7:37 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: wheres the like button on this damned thing. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote: I

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-27 Thread Maureen
I lived in Orlando for many years while attending college. Locals call the paper The Slantinel. The news coverage can be very good. They have excellent coverage of weather related stuff. But politically they tend to be a bit to the right of Darth Vader. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:13 AM, LRS

Re: just checked to make sure cf-community was online

2012-03-27 Thread Dana
I think it depends. I know that I certainly have felt threatened when some guy followed me. But we're talking about someone a lot taller and a lot more male ;) We don't know if he felt angry or threatened, and if he felt threatened how much. At what point that justifies punching someone, assuming

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