Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
"They may not set out to dick people around, but they do so fully aware of what they are doing and make it their 'negotiation policy.'" It's like I said, they don't give a damn about anything but the bottom line. "If you want to work with Walmart they require almost cult like loyalty from you, w

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"With Walmart however its not just the employees they like to screw around, its the small and medium businesses that are the suppliers for the company." Walmart does not set out to screw anyone. A modern day fallacy perpetrated by statists in order to create a coorporate bogey man. "What happe

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-28 Thread Medic
> > They don't set out to dick people around. They set out to lower prices. > As a guy who's had to deal directly with Walmart's head office numerous time and worked closely with a few companies that have supplied Walmart, I can say this is *kind of* true. They do set out to lower prices, but th

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-28 Thread Maureen
If the local businesses want my business, they can stop selling shoddy good at inflated prices. Especially clothes. I paid a bunch of money to a local vendor for a garment that fell apart after the second washing. Bought a similar garment at Walmart to replace it and have worn it for more than

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Scott Stroz
bad guys.  Isn't that a > libertarian's wet dream? Besides, I wouldn't work at Wal-mart if it was the > last job on the planet. > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 6:54 PM > To: cf-commu

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Jerry Barnes
"When I was unemployed, do you think it would have been better for me and my family to purchase more expensive goods from places that were not Wal-Mart?" You were supposed to pray at the alter of the nanny state and then everything would have been delivered to you. - While the deep concern of a

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Jerry Barnes
Wal-mart lives by their motto: always low prices always. They don't set out to dick people around. They set out to lower prices. They are so cost conscious that their offices are furnished with floor samples and returns. Sometimes in their quest to lower prices, bad things happen. Some busine

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread denstar
Shhh... they're the party that's going to lead us to enlightenment. :Den -- Art is not merely an imitation of the reality of nature, but in truth a metaphysical supplement to the reality of nature, placed alongside thereof for its conquest. Friedrich Nietzsche On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:08 PM,

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Eric Roberts
...Except if you had been reading...he has blamed the government...the one that was led by George Bush for 8 years that got us into this mess. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 7:34 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Eric Roberts
wet dream? Besides, I wouldn't work at Wal-mart if it was the last job on the planet. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 6:54 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama On Mon, Sep 27, 2010

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
Thank you, I'll be here all week. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 7:49 PM, denstar wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Sam wrote: >> >> It is a laughable approach to a real conversation. We all know why the >> economy is in the dump but he'll blame anybody except the government. > > Heh.  You'

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread denstar
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Sam wrote: > > It is a laughable approach to a real conversation. We all know why the > economy is in the dump but he'll blame anybody except the government. Heh. You're funny too! :Den -- Arrogance on the part of the meritorious is even more offensive to us t

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
You could go to Target and pay 50% more for the same items. For some strange reason giving them more profit is better then giving anything to WalMart. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Eric Roberts > wrote: >> >> I would say yes because you

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
It is a laughable approach to a real conversation. We all know why the economy is in the dump but he'll blame anybody except the government. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:46 PM, denstar wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > ... >> The problem isn't particularly politic

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I would say yes because your money is not going to Walmart and you would not > be rewarding bad behavior nor would your money be going to corporatist > candidates.  By going to walmart you are only making it worse.  I haven't > shopped ther

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread denstar
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: ... > The problem isn't particularly political. If consumer demand shot up > do you think that companies really wouldn't hire workers because they > don't like Obama? > "Please sell me this widget." > "No, sorry, we're out of widgets and won't

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Eric Roberts
have found other ways to save money without fucking over my fellow humans. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 5:08 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama Those are really interesting, but you di

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Eric Roberts
You mean like tax breaks for small businesses? -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 2:08 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Vivec wrote: > > So if Bu

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Eric Roberts
onday, September 27, 2010 1:53 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama Speaking of CEO's thank don't trust Obama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDUabZCdaKY Video: Home Depot CEO, Obama's Advisers "Don't Have a Clue" :) On Mon, Se

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Scott Stroz
Those are really interesting, but you did not answer my question. When times are hard, the logical thing to do is make sure that what money you have is being spent wisely. Do you think its wise to spend more and get less simply so you can avoid buying stuff from Wal-Mart? Its a simple 'yes' or '

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
here are some references http://www.usna.edu/Users/polisci/purkitt/behavioraltraps.ppt http://faculty.babson.edu/krollag/org_site/soc_psych/platt_soc_trap.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinforcement#Superimposed_schedules On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > 'behavioral

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Scott Stroz
'behavioral trap'? When I was unemployed, do you think it would have been better for me and my family to purchase more expensive goods from places that were not Wal-Mart? What you call a 'behavioral trap', I call common sense. If you do not have a whole lot of money to play with, you need to be

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
Manufacturing is going overseas because they work for $5 a week. We can't compete with that. If Walmart doesn't do it the next guy will. Have you ever noticed K-mart, Target and Walmart sell a lot of the same crap. The only difference is K-mart pays Martha Stewart for her picture on the same item

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > >>Didn't you use that example last week and didn't Jerry shoot it down? > They don't raise prices and they create as many new business as the > ones they replace. > > I must've missed it. I missed a lot of the list last week. It was a busy > we

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
and that in a nutshell is why so many manufacturing jobs are going offshore. Its a classic behavioral trap, the short term positive consequences outweigh the long term negative ones. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > To be honest, in this economy, I don't give a shit. > >

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Scott Stroz
To be honest, in this economy, I don't give a shit. I, like a lot of people, need to get the most out of each and every dollar I spend. The best place for that, in my opinion, is Wal-Mart. When the economy turns around, and I am no longer afraid that it may effect my job, then I can go back to s

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
With Walmart however its not just the employees they like to screw around, its the small and medium businesses that are the suppliers for the company. What happens is that the contracts allow for a renegotiation every year. Year 1 no problem, the supplier typically gives a reasonable price which

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Vivec wrote: > There is nothing wrong with reducing the profits of businesses to > benefit the general public. Except for the fact that rarely does anything result in the reduction of profits of businesses. Any potential reduction of profits will likely result in

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Judah McAuley
I didn't mean the person. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > must not say "Don't insult Santorum"... must not say "Don't insult > Santorum"... must not say "Don't insult Santorum"... > > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
must not say "Don't insult Santorum"... must not say "Don't insult Santorum"... must not say "Don't insult Santorum"... On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Sam wrote: >> >>> >>> I guess your thinking is people like you because they prefer

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sisk, Kris
>Didn't you use that example last week and didn't Jerry shoot it down? They don't raise prices and they create as many new business as the ones they replace. I must've missed it. I missed a lot of the list last week. It was a busy week. I'll have to go hunt through the archives. >Also, WalMart,

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Judah McAuley
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Sam wrote: > >> >> I guess your thinking is people like you because they prefer real assholes. >> > > Have a great day Sammy. I hadn't thought, until this point, how much "Sam" sounds like "Santorum" Interesting. ~~

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread G Money
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Sam wrote: > > I guess your thinking is people like you because they prefer real assholes. > Have a great day Sammy. -- Glittering prizes and endless compromises Shatter the illusion of integrity ~~

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
I guess your thinking is people like you because they prefer real assholes. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:36 PM, G Money wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Sam wrote: > >> >> If folks like you didn't hate the people that you >> didn't agree with so much I'd have nothing to talk about here

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
Didn't you use that example last week and didn't Jerry shoot it down? They don't raise prices and they create as many new business as the ones they replace. Also, WalMart, like most retail jobs pay around minimum wage and employee college kids, housewives and retirees. If you are working there as

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread G Money
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Sam wrote: > > If folks like you didn't hate the people that you > didn't agree with so much I'd have nothing to talk about here. > You aren't disliked because of what you believe. You are disliked because you come off as a total asshole. -- Glittering prizes

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
Nice. You seem to have that a little backwards. It's GMoney that always enters discussions with ALL are idiots or racist or whatever you're point of the day is. Sam is the guy that always jumps in begging you fools to stop using the wide brush. If folks like you didn't hate the people that you di

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread G Money
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Vivec wrote: > > By your rules unless there was some way to secure the previous profit > margin of Businesses, there should have been no change to Credit Card > regulations. > And I don't agree with that. > You don't agree with it because you still don't underst

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sisk, Kris
>Wrong answer. The correct answer is: Increase business profits AND benefit the general public. The two are not diametrically opposed. I know, that probably doesn't compute with you...but that's part of your "charm". Sometimes they ARE diametrically opposed. They don't HAVE to be, but a lot of th

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread G Money
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I think that the problem there is that you don't mention any > counter-balancing interests. I guess I don't think I should have to every single time I post. > When you say "tailored with the interests > of business" and don't mention

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Vivec
We had a financial meltdown because they WERE diametrically opposed. And they still are. There are many instances where it is not possible to protect the Public and increase the profits of Businesses that prey on that public at the same time. One example is Credit Card regulation. Business was a

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Vivec wrote: > That's just it. > > No one is going against Business concerns. > The government isn't actively doing anything that would prevent > businesses from operating. You'd like to see businesses be prevented from operating? That sounds like a great econom

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread G Money
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Vivec wrote: > > That's just it. > > No one is going against Business concerns. > The government isn't actively doing anything that would prevent > businesses from operating. > > If Government cannot pass any policies and protections that would in > any way reduc

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:07 AM, G Money wrote: > > I say "Fiscal policies should be tailored with the interests of businesses > in mind" and you turn that into "completely de-regulate the markets on the > whim of businesses". > > It's a misleading question that bears no resemblance to the remar

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Vivec
That's just it. No one is going against Business concerns. The government isn't actively doing anything that would prevent businesses from operating. If Government cannot pass any policies and protections that would in any way reduce the profit of businesses, regardless of their effect on the li

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread G Money
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Vivec wrote: > > So if Business says that it wants complete deregulation of the > financial markets in order to feel 'comfortable' should the Government > do that? > No, but thanks for the stupid question. Sorry to be so short, but I grow very tired of this ad

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
Speaking of CEO's thank don't trust Obama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDUabZCdaKY Video: Home Depot CEO, Obama’s Advisers “Don’t Have a Clue” :) On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Sam wrote: > Actually that is not what he said. > Really f'n strange that you would pick out the cnbc chunks

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
Actually that is not what he said. Really f'n strange that you would pick out the cnbc chunks of commentary instead of the real quotes. You even put fake quotes around it. "He's there a month and he vilifies Las Vegas… he kills the hotel business," Welch said. "You get all these little things t

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: >> >> Once again, Robert, head back to the Jack Welch article you pimped out >> and tell me which of those accusations he makes that you agree with. >> > > It doesn't matter what I thin

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "The problem isn't particularly political. If consumer demand shot up do you > think that companies really wouldn't hire workers because they don't like > Obama?" > > Actually it is.  People are not buying luxury items since they believe th

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Vivec
So if Business says that it wants complete deregulation of the financial markets in order to feel 'comfortable' should the Government do that? Haven't we already seen what happens when you allow Business to dictate the laws and regulations for your country? On 27 September 2010 11:51, G Money w

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Jerry Barnes
"So government must tailor their fiscal policy to suit big business in the US?" No. Woodrow Wilson and FDR did this. It doesn't work. Just like stated above, all businesses should be treated fairly. J - The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Jerry Barnes
"The problem isn't particularly political. If consumer demand shot up do you think that companies really wouldn't hire workers because they don't like Obama?" Actually it is. People are not buying luxury items since they believe that the current administration is driving the economy into the gro

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Judah McAuley
Willful or not, this ignores basic economics. Businesses are, indeed, sitting on quite a bit of cash. Why isn't it being invested in hiring workers? The answer can be found in economic textbooks, not political screeds and the answer is this: demand is soft and productivity is high. When you can me

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Robert Munn
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 8:51 AM, G Money wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Vivec wrote: > >> >> So government must tailor their fiscal policy to suit big business in the >> US? >> > > ALL business, not just BIG business. > > But yes, of course. Business drives everything, so why would

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
the gobermint? On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:51 AM, G Money wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Vivec wrote: > >> >> So government must tailor their fiscal policy to suit big business in the >> US? >> > > ALL business, not just BIG business. > > But yes, of course. Business drives everyth

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread G Money
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Vivec wrote: > > So government must tailor their fiscal policy to suit big business in the > US? > ALL business, not just BIG business. But yes, of course. Business drives everything, so why wouldn't you want a fiscal policy that encourages business entreprene

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Vivec
So government must tailor their fiscal policy to suit big business in the US? On 27 September 2010 11:31, Robert Munn wrote: > > The President and Congress deserve the blame for creating a hostile > environment for these companies, who understandably are keeping their > money on the sidelines un

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Robert Munn
They are following what they see as the best interests of their shareholders. Compounding the problem, consumers are continuing to pay down debt rather than spend. Do we then blame consumers for dragging the economy down? Of course not. The President and Congress deserve the blame for creating a

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Sam
e a > spade... > > -Original Message- > From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 5:53 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama > > > In other words they are driving the economy into the ground and > holdin

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Eric Roberts
It's called a Corporatist (aka fascist) takeover...lets call a spade a spade... -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 5:53 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama In other words they are driv

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Vivec
In other words they are driving the economy into the ground and holding the United States people to ransom if their policies are not implemented. Hell of a thing to support: the takeover of a democracy by corporations. On 27 September 2010 04:15, Robert Munn wrote: > > > It doesn't matter what

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-27 Thread Robert Munn
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Once again, Robert, head back to the Jack Welch article you pimped out > and tell me which of those accusations he makes that you agree with. > It doesn't matter what I think about it. The CEOs are collectively sitting on a couple of tri

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-26 Thread Judah McAuley
Once again, Robert, head back to the Jack Welch article you pimped out and tell me which of those accusations he makes that you agree with. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Antho

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-26 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Yeah...corporatist to be a socialist. And he wants to control the > economy...except that he's totally unable to bring the economy around. > Do you actually listen to anything you are saying Rob? Corporatist to be socialist is exactly wh

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Maureen wrote: >> >> If you wanted to be honest your presentation, you would have a subject >> line that says Some CEOs can't stand Obama.    The hyperbole of >> stating this opinion as if all CEOs hold it i

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Maureen
Did you not create this message with a subject of Why CEO's can't stand Obama? On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Maureen wrote: >> >> If you wanted to be honest your presentation, you would have a subject >&

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Sam
Buffet went off Obama a long time ago. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Maureen wrote: > > If you wanted to be honest your presentation, you would have a subject > line that says Some CEOs can't stand Obama.    The hyperbole of > stating this opinion as if all CEOs hold it is beneath you. Guaran

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > By the way, I wanted to go back to the original (and false) assertion > that CEOs feel under siege here. Obama is a corporatist. Plain and > simple and one of the things I really don't like about him. But you > know what? CEOs of big compan

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Maureen wrote: > > If you wanted to be honest your presentation, you would have a subject > line that says Some CEOs can't stand Obama.    The hyperbole of > stating this opinion as if all CEOs hold it is beneath you. I never said all CEOs, and this sounds like n

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Big business doesn't stand for any of that. They are parasites on the engine of the American economy and are anti-competitive. They are models for greed, sinecure, lack of respect for their community and the evil of failing upward." Read up on Woodrow Wilson. He had visions of incorporating big

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Judah McAuley
Believe's *what*? He didn't answer anything substantiative. It was an evasion, not an answer. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Medic wrote: > > I believe that _he_ believes it. > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Eric Roberts < > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > >> >> That certainly wa

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Judah McAuley
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > CEOs feel under siege and that is holding the economy back. Here are a > few gems below. I especially like what Rodgers from Cypress Semi said, > maybe because it is what I have been saying for the past two years. By the way, I wanted to go

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Medic
; Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:56 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama > > > /me rubs eyes > > You realize you're talking to RoMunn right? I might disagree with just > about > every political point he makes, but dishonest

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Judah McAuley
At least be honest and answer the >> question...we might disagree with you, but at least we could respect you >> for >> giving an honest answer. >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 11:45 PM

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Eric Roberts
That certainly wasn't an honest answer to Judah's question... -Original Message- From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:56 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama /me rubs eyes You realize you're t

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Maureen
If you wanted to be honest your presentation, you would have a subject line that says Some CEOs can't stand Obama.The hyperbole of stating this opinion as if all CEOs hold it is beneath you. Guarantee that for everyone you find that dislikes him, I can find one that likes him plenty. Starting

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:37 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > User does not = employee or job then number of people that do auctions as a > full time job wouldn't boost that number a whole lot.  Besides, your claim > was that she created more jobs, not users. A chunk of those 85 million users make th

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread denstar
I think Robstar freaking rocks. He's mellowed out quite a bit over the years, and I dig mellow. Plus, he knows how to surf, and that's like, Zen, yo! :Den -- All truly great thoughts are conceived by walking. Friedrich Nietzsche On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Medic wrote: > > /me rubs eyes

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:41 AM, Medic wrote: > > Except Disney isn't a rotting cesspool of everything that's wrong with > Western society. Oh yes it is. Disney is way worse than Vegas in my book. Vegas is at least fairly honest about being a cesspool. Disney is the epitome of cross marketing,

RE: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Jacob
: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 11:59 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama Fiorina is running against Boxer. Meg Whitman is running against ex-governor Jerry Brown. Both former CEOs of tech companies. Neither know squat about governing. Whitman's ads about wh

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Medic
Except Disney isn't a rotting cesspool of everything that's wrong with Western society. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Sam wrote: > > But Obama singled out a local community as an evil waste. Nobody > should do that. He could have said the same about Disney. > > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:22

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-24 Thread Sam
But Obama singled out a local community as an evil waste. Nobody should do that. He could have said the same about Disney. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Medic wrote: > > That's true. However Vegas *should* have been devastated. It's a place to go > and blow your extra money. If you don't hav

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2010-09-24 Thread Medic
That's true. However Vegas *should* have been devastated. It's a place to go and blow your extra money. If you don't have extra money you shouldn't put yourself into hock so you can go to Vegas. Vegas would've been hurting even if Obama kept his mouth shut. P.S. You cracked me up with your GG com

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2010-09-24 Thread Sam
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Medic wrote: > > Well his comments + the recession. The convention business didn't go > elsewhere. They just didn't go. LV locals went ape-shit about his comments > and he retracted them. As the economy has improved so has the convention > business. I think the ec

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2010-09-24 Thread Sam
Larry you're going back to your evil ways. And as always you are very wrong. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Hey don't confuse the ignorant twit with facts, it hurts his head to > much to think. > > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Eric Roberts > wrote: >> >> Ummm no

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2010-09-24 Thread Medic
t; From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 11:45 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama > > > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Judah McAuley > wrote: > > > Are you that much of a parti

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2010-09-24 Thread Eric Roberts
: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > Are you that much of a partisan hack or do you actually agree that we > shouldn't criticize corporate junkets to Las Vegas on taxpayer money, > that we shouldn&

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2010-09-24 Thread Eric Roberts
ember 23, 2010 9:34 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > So at the end of 2009, 600,000 jobs were created and so far in 2010, 500,000 > jobs have been created (1,100,000 for he math impaired righties

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2010-09-24 Thread Medic
Well his comments + the recession. The convention business didn't go elsewhere. They just didn't go. LV locals went ape-shit about his comments and he retracted them. As the economy has improved so has the convention business. I think the economy had much more to do than his comments. My last job

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2010-09-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
lto:sammyc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 8:56 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama > > > We lost 5 million jobs in the last two years. > Add the 1.1 million you brag about and that's -3.9 million. > Looks like

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2010-09-23 Thread denstar
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > >> Are you that much of a partisan hack or do you actually agree that we >> shouldn't criticize corporate junkets to Las Vegas on taxpayer money, >> that we shouldn't criticize BP for th

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2010-09-23 Thread Robert Munn
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > Are you that much of a partisan hack or do you actually agree that we > shouldn't criticize corporate junkets to Las Vegas on taxpayer money, > that we shouldn't criticize BP for their oil spill, that we shouldn't > criticize a horrible Sup

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2010-09-23 Thread Judah McAuley
Uh, the Jack Welch bit, did you actually read it? Here's a quote: "Soon after he came into office, Obama slammed companies that benefitted from taxpayer money for taking corporate trips to Las Vegas. Businesspeople said tourism in Nevada took a hit partly because companies decided to cancel trip

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2010-09-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
"If we lost 5 million jobs in 2009, then gained 1.1 million since, we're still way behind." Point of order: How many of those jobs were census jobs? J - No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain The artificial aristocracy is a mischievous i

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2010-09-23 Thread Robert Munn
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > So at the end of 2009, 600,000 jobs were created and so far in 2010, 500,000 > jobs have been created (1,100,000 for he math impaired righties) .  How many > jobs did Meg Whitman create?  Well in 2008, when she stepped down, Ebay had > over

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2010-09-23 Thread Sam
; > -Original Message- > From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 8:56 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama > > > We lost 5 million jobs in the last two years. > Add the 1.1 million you bra

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2010-09-23 Thread Eric Roberts
Ummm no...those numbers are net gains sam...sorry. nice try at a lie though... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 8:56 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama We lost 5 million jobs in the last

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2010-09-23 Thread Sam
We lost 5 million jobs in the last two years. Add the 1.1 million you brag about and that's -3.9 million. Looks like Meg wins. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > So at the end of 2009, 600,000 jobs were created and so far in 2010, 500,000 > jobs have been created (1,100,00

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2010-09-23 Thread Eric Roberts
... -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:14 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: why ceo's can't stand obama Meg Whitman built eBay from a little company into a tech giant. She created a hell of a lot more jobs than Obam

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