You know I never really use Opera (nothing other then Netscape or IE
really), however you have to ask yourself this. While being compliant is a
VERY GOOD THING, you must also look at the realistic side of this. If this
is the case (testing a site for every single possible browser) then when do
you
>Once again no answer to my question regarding the stability of >CFMX in a shared
>hosting environment!!
Obviously.. No Comments...
To my knowledge CFMX in production is Unstable.. Especially if you try to to use all
the new features.
This no surprise.. CFMX is a complete re-write in Java...
MM
Set the value of your checkbox to the primary key of the record you want to
delete. Then, on your action page, you will have a comma-delimited list of
IDs to delete.
DELETE FROM myTable
WHERE PRIMARY_KEY_ID IN (#Form.Delete#)
> -Original Message-
> From: FlashGuy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE
below
- Original Message -
From: "Jochem van Dieten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: ODBC Problems?
> Bryan Stevenson wrote:
> > Once again no answer to my question regarding the stability of CFMX in a
> > shared
>> There is NO warning in the release notes about an
>> UnStable CFMX ODBC Engine.
> I guess, by your logic, if there's any problem that anyone encounters with
> CFMX, the release notes should say "WARNING: THIS PRODUCT MAY NOT WORK IN
> YOUR ENVIRONMENT!" Gee, I'm really surprised that the releas
You'll want to rename your checkbox to 'itemID' or something like that, and
then set the VALUE attribute to the itemID of the record you're currently
processing:
...
...
When the form is submitted, the FORM variable will not exist if nothing was
checked, or it'll contain a comma delim
Nice one on the technote about why we won't be able to see half the site:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/general/ts/documents/macromedia.com_site_r
equire.htm
scroll down
Last updated:February 3, 2003
Created:February 12, 2003
Can anyone see something funny here?
~~
Outside of the slow loading and horrid usability of the front page,
exactly how is the site a RIA now? And how is it different from before?
Adam Wayne Lehman
Web Systems Developer
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Distance Education Division
-Original Message-
From: Stephen
Ooops! I meant to state "Has someone say built a DB driven ad-hoc report that easily
displays 1000 rows of data that can be dumped to Excel IN A FLASH RIA APP???" ...this
is low hanging fruit in CF.
This is the perfect response:
>Building one now...lovin it! RIA is the way to go. Lets face
>
>may have it "working stable" with a completely different >database and/or
>driver set, which won't help you in the least bit.
No One has yet confirmed a "working stable" CFMX ODBC Connection... with any database.
On the other hand we have had several people report problems with CFMX ODBC...here
One thing to note, if Opera by default identifies itself as IE then why
doesn't it render pages the same as IE? Why would you pretend to be a
different browser and then not support the same things?
Joshua Miller
Head Programmer / IT Manager
Garrison Enterprises Inc.
www.garrisonenterprises.net
[EM
> > Let's get Jakob Nielsen to end this
> >
>
> That'd be a waste of time and money... daft old codger!!
>
> I wouldn't listen to too much that he says these days - the
> guy is still stuck in his ways from the early 90's when what
> he had to say was true and perfectly acceptable for the stat
- Original Message -
From: "Stephen Moretti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> It also begs the question, why does it not work in Opera? I've got the
site
> working in IE5.5, Mozilla 1.1a and Nutscrape 4.7 crashed, but then that
> hardly surprising given how bad it was at pretty much everything!
>
A
>> I'm looking for an application (or looking to make one if
>> none exists) that allows you to take an automatic snapshot
>> (thumbnail) of a web site when a user specifies a URL.
>>
>> Does any one know of any that currently exists?
>>
>> Any suggestions are appreciated...
www.browsercam.com
Political Correctness is evil. While I appreciate Pablo's input...isn't it
just as 'politically incorrect' to generalize about a particular group of
people?
Pablo: 'they get really pissed if you call them handicapped'
Just making a point :)
Charlie
Joshua Miller writes:
> Oops, I ap
>Well, that's simply not true
In the 2 days of this Topic.. have yet to see ONE CONFIRMATION that CFMX ODBC works
with ANY DB(Oracle,Sql-Server, DB2, Informix..etc) in a production environment with a
good load of 50-100 consistent users.
If someone has this working.. then the root cause of the
> > Sure, but you might want to apply a bit of
> > common sense. Macromedia isn't going to say
> > ODBC connections don't work, but they do say
> > they won't work as well as "pure" JDBC connections.
>
> There is no COMMON Sense to apply here.
There is always a place to apply common sense. To
> Don't let a disabled person hear you call them
> Handicapped, that is the
> Politically incorrect term (by the way).
> I took a seminar a while back on Section 508 and they
> explained that the
> word Handicap was given to disabled people because most
> disabled people at
> the time were Vietnam
Sweet, so you're saying we get to stop QA-ing our development projects
in browsers other than IE. Excellent. You've just saved us all quite a
bit of time!
It doesn't matter what the market share is. It has to work, or at
least decay properly in ANY BROWSER MM's QA can get they're hands on.
Ye
> Now, we can only guess whether Macromedia or
> Opera is to blame and wait until somebody
> produces an XHTML compliant copy of the Macromedia
> website to prove it is possible, just like in
> the past Microsoft [1] and others have been
> proven to just not care about about the standards
> t
Bryan Stevenson wrote:
> Once again no answer to my question regarding the stability of CFMX in a
> shared hosting environment!!
I, and others with me, have repeatedly answered that it is stable for
what we do.
> Yes I now this is not a MM list and I should not expect an official answer here.
HI,
I'm displaying entries from my database in my template. I have
#GetEnv.Filename#
#GetEnv.Command#
#GetEnv.CreatedOn#
#GetEnv.LastAcc#
#GetEnv.LastMod#
#GetEnv.FileSize#
#GetEnv.Directory#
#GetEnv.Username#
I don't think you need the evaluate.
> -Original Message-
> From: Randell B Adkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:44 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: cfloop/index question
>
>
> I would set a temp variable and check that var.
>
> I would use CFLOOP with
I'm sure there's a creative way to avoid the evaluate() in this, somebody
else can share with us what way that might be, but here's one way of doing
it:
Adam.
> -Original Message-
> From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, Ma
we need to get your mind off of sql & into some s&m! lol
is that email valid?
- Original Message -
From: "Jochem van Dieten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: ODBC Problems?
> Dave Lyons wrote:
> > i cant recall se
I'm glad to see that the devex search is still as slow as it used to
be... At least that didn't change...
- jim
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Yes that would be a dream come true lol.
Yea m$ does mix up their site a bit you cant do one search to find
everything
they dont put all the technet articles into the search and you have to
sometimes bounce to different parts of the site. Their site reminds me of
MANY sites crammed into 1 lol
---
Agreed, I saw one - the Sun Intranet actually, that was designed exactly
like those voting cards in Florida with a column down the center of
buttons and to the right/left a text label. It was the most god-awful
thing I've ever seen. The buttons looked like they came from the same
artist as the danc
http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2003/February/browser.php
Stats from Internet.com and its suite of sites : 580020 out of 113973510
visitors in February this year had Opera x.x That is 0.0051 percent of
browser usage.
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_war.asp
Doesn't even list Opera, bec
Oh I'm being far from obtuse my friend.
And I've already said on the feedback form their site is broken ;)
And where is the anger in that post? So who's obtuse now lol
- Original Message -
From: "Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednes
Oops, I apologize if I offended anyone on the list. Although,
truthfully, saying someone is disabled to me seems more offensive.
Disabled means non-functional, I wouldn't imagine that they would like
to be called non-functional, they only lack certain abilities.
Political Correctness is such a sli
> Is it really a "a massive step in web design" Or is it a massive step
in marketeering/advertising/etc on the web??? Or have the two ideas really
truly begun to meld into one?
Just blowin sunshine up everybodies a$$
What is an RIA really??? To me it seems to smack of 'interactive TV'! Ha
doesnt someone have to push the envelope?
and with pushing things ahead there will be things that dont work with it.
Thats how new things come about;)
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:37 PM
Subject: RE: New
Pablo,
> Don't let a disabled person hear you call them Handicapped, that is the
> Politically incorrect term (by the way).
>
> I took a seminar a while back on Section 508 and they explained that the
> word Handicap was given to disabled people because most disabled people at
> the time were Viet
LOL i wouldnt take a pay cut to work for a company like MM :)
Maybe MM needs to follow w3c standards. And i know other sites are not
supported but i bring it upto them whenever i find it. When CNN.com launched
a new look me and about 50 others emailed them about the problems with THEIR
site NOT our
I agree 100% with this. We can go on and on ad nauseum (and likely will)
debating over who sucks more...Macromedia or Opera.
I'd have to say at this point, they're both in the 'wrong' (for lack of a
better term). As Jochem said, if MM would validate to a w3 standard, such
as XHTML, that woul
Agreed...most of our sites have no more than 1% hits from Opera users,
according to our web stats.
w
-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 17:30
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
I dont think its dumb. It ma
Please, stop the debate about Opera and its "10%" Opera marketshare.
I don't know where did you get those 10%.
In most browser statistics, Opera is below 1%.
Example :
"WebSideStory's figures were compiled independently based on a random daily
sample of 20 million visitors to thousands of Web sit
> -Original Message-
> From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 4:29 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Taking a picture or a web site by specifying a URL?
>
>
> I'm looking for an application (or looking to make one if
> none exists) that allows you to t
the issue is here is that it says its XHTML - which it isnt.
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 17:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
Bruce Sorge wrote:
> You know that MM is not the only site that does not work
Scott Wilhelm writes:
>- snip -<
> If 10% of the market uses Opera, it's an established browser...Why
That's a big 'If'. I'm not saying Opera does *not* have 10% of the market,
as I've not seen any numbers that would either prove or disprove. But if
somebody *does* have stats out there to
Once again no answer to my question regarding the stability of CFMX in a
shared hosting environment!!
A lack of an answer leads me to beleive that it is in fact unstable and MM
does not wish to comment on it. Yes I now this is not a MM list and I
should not expect an official answer here. If the
Dave Lyons wrote:
> i cant recall seeing Jochem loose or be wrong.
> the only wrong doing he did was not respond to my offer of hooking him up
> with a victoria secrets model. lol
You offered to hook me up with a Victoria Secrets model? I must have
missed that. Please contact me offlist at [E
looks fine too me
at least they are trying to move stuff forward
its got to put the fear of god into adobe! haha and their lamo sight
Well maybe the new site will put to rest all the damn M$ rumors
- Original Message -
From: "Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <
I would set a temp variable and check that var.
I would use CFLOOP with the index of xx to get your 100, 200
set tempValue = Evaluate("form.service" & xx)
- do this
- do that
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 12:13PM >>>
I've got a form with a large list of services that a client can cli
> Let's get Jakob Nielsen to end this
>
That'd be a waste of time and money... daft old codger!!
I wouldn't listen to too much that he says these days - the guy is still
stuck in his ways from the early 90's when what he had to say was true and
perfectly acceptable for the state of the network a
Yea but it wasnt googles man page ;)
- Original Message -
From: "Benoit Hediard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:40 AM
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
> If it's a beta version, why is it public then?
Sometimes when you ar
Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 11:10:51 AM, Jochem van Dieten wrote:
> But I do like the look and feel of the new site.
I do, for the most part. I guess I should've qualified my earlier
"dislike" statement.
> It is just that it is slow.
This is the biggest issue for me, too. Even on my DSL connectio
But from what I hear he's one hell of a dancer!
-Original Message-
From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
All due respect to Mr. Neilsen, but he's a boring old codger. While
usability i
Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote:
> I have Jochem leading joe 2 - nill
My counter says:
Joe & Jochem: 0 - Joe's problem: 1
Jochem
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Is it really a "a massive step in web design" Or is it a massive step in
marketeering/advertising/etc on the web??? Or have the two ideas really truly begun
to meld into one? What is an RIA really??? To me it seems to smack of 'interactive
TV'! Has anyone built any true business applica
Entirely agree
-Original Message-
From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
All due respect to Mr. Neilsen, but he's a boring old codger. While
usability is important it's NOT the be-all en
Don't let a disabled person hear you call them Handicapped, that is the
Politically incorrect term (by the way).
I took a seminar a while back on Section 508 and they explained that the
word Handicap was given to disabled people because most disabled people at
the time were Vietnam vets. The word
I dont think its dumb. It makes perfect sense. Just because 10% of the
browser market could be Opera, it doesn't mean to say that all 10% may hit
MM or any site for that matter.
-Original Message-
From: Scott Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 17:21
To: CF-Talk
Subje
Bruce Sorge wrote:
> You know that MM is not the only site that does not work well with Opera.
> Wells Fargo Bank's On-Line banking does not work well either.
Wells Fargo is not a member of the W3C. Macromedia is.
It would be nice if the Macromedia website validated to some version of
the (X)HTM
Real quick question here:
Has anyone else had a problem with DWMX not supporting explicitly username
and password-enhabled(http://x:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/123.cfc?wsdl) URL's in its WSDL
analyzer? The URL works fine in browsers and other applications (notably,
XML Spy), but alas...
- Jim
~~~
i cant recall seeing Jochem loose or be wrong.
the only wrong doing he did was not respond to my offer of hooking him up
with a victoria secrets model. lol
- Original Message -
From: "Mark A. Kruger - CFG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March
theres a few things I can think of getting Nielsen to end... ;)
w
-Original Message-
From: Turetsky, Seth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 16:57
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
Let's get Jakob Nielsen to end this
-Original Message-
From: J
I quite like it (the new site I mean).
w
-Original Message-
From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 17:18
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
Tell me about it... it sure would be nice on all of us if all the browsers
would get together and use
We are having an issue with our server - we are frequently getting 404
messages for pages we know exist, and if we do a refresh right away the page
loads fine.
I've searched through the CFAdmin options for anything that might be related
to this (caching?), but nothing obvious has jumped out at me.
I've got a form with a large list of services that a client can click to get
more info. Depending on where they come from, the checkboxes will auto-check
a particular service they're interested in, and then they can check a few
more if they wish information on other services.
JAVASCRIPT CHECKBOX F
That's about the dumbest thing I've heard in the conversations today.
If 10% of the market uses Opera, it's an established browser...Why
shouldn't a site test for it? Especially a company such as Macromedia.
They screwed up big time. They designed a site that looks good, tries
to do some fancy
Just make sure the jar is specifed in the classpath, (stick it in \lib ) and
just use it...
WG
-Original Message-
From: Tyler Silcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 17:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: import JAR files inline?
Can I directly import JAR files from within ColdFusi
All due respect to Mr. Neilsen, but he's a boring old codger. While
usability is important it's NOT the be-all end-all of web design and
development. I'm not sure how he became the de-facto lord of web
usability, but a lot of his ideas are contrary to what has worked in
print marketing for decades.
Well in the same breath I don't have too many postive things to mention
about jakob neilsen.. some points useful - many just to far on one end
of a spectrum... but there are forums on that alone :)
Turetsky, Seth wrote:
>Let's get Jakob Nielsen to end this
>
>-Original Message-
>From:
Tell me about it... it sure would be nice on all of us if all the browsers
would get together and use a single standard but that isn't the case
(and probably wont ever be the case :)
It just would be nice if it was :)
Site runs fine for me too, the only complaint I have it that I was actually
jeez, someones a little agro. Agreed it a huge step and there are issues
but it is a massive step in web design. Vent your anger at the
wishform/feedback and help instead of being obtuse.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 17:03
To: C
Scott Wilhelm wrote:
> Does MM really think that all developers have broadband??? I'm on a lan
> now, and it takes a while to load. I can't imagine how long it will
> take my home PC on a dial-up.
Run a counter on your connection, client side bandwidth is not the
issue, it is something else. I
Chris Montgomery wrote:
> Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 7:02:08 AM, Jochem van Dieten wrote:
>
>
>>Overall, I find the site rather slow when using the Flash version. ...
>
> I agree. I really dislike the new site.
But I do like the look and feel of the new site.
It is just that it is slow. I mean,
> I hope you are not suggesting i call Macromedia
> Support and ask them.. IF they have CFMX ODBC
> working stable?
No, I'd recommend that you be a bit more specific than that. After all, they
may have it "working stable" with a completely different database and/or
driver set, which won't help y
I think the new site rocks. Sure it's got some issues, but it's a work
in progress. I'm sure they'll take care of the usability issues post
haste. For what it's worth, I think it's going to be a fabulous site.
On the HomeSite issue - that's funny. If the product has a cult-like
following, then why
hehe.
Maybe this will explain why they did it?
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mmwebsite/articles/devnet_experience.html
:)
Pablo
- Original Message -
From: "Willy Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:53 AM
Subject: RE: New Ma
I have Jochem leading joe 2 - nill
-Original Message-
From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 7:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: ODBC Problems?
LOL!
- Original Message -
From: "Jochem van Dieten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECT
> The only 2 confirmations i needed from this
> whole post was...
> 1. Nobody on this list has CFMX ODBC working
> stable.
Well, that's simply not true. I do know of one installation that's using SQL
Server 2000 via ODBC with CFMX, because they require trusted connections.
It's slow, but it's no
I'd have to second that descipription.
-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: ODBC Problems?
h, that's a wonder...huh. well, we use adv sql server 2000, cfmx,
and iis on 1 live server and 1 dev serv
Hi Mike,
> Furthermore, it fails some of the most basic requirements (i.e.
> document validity).
I don't think that XHTML compliance is "so" important, as soon as the site
provides XML-compliant feeds of its content.
> Second, Flash, in of itself, may not be bad design or confusing,
> but it cer
Can I directly import JAR files from within ColdFusion code on CFMX? Let's say I want
to import a Java imaging library from the same directory my file is on, and I just
want to import the Jar file, can I?
This is what I want to do:
!! IMPORT "ij.jar" (somehow)
objImage = objOpener.openIma
Nah its just another example of macromedia. :)
Kinda makes me laugh in a way
- Original Message -
From: "Mike Chambers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: New MM.com
One thing to keep in mind is that while Opera
You know that MM is not the only site that does not work well with Opera.
Wells Fargo Bank's On-Line banking does not work well either. There are a
few others that do not work with Opera, so MM is not the only one out there
that is not checking for that browser. Why not apply yourself to the QA
dep
AFIAK, In addition to applets or ActiveX...
Netscape 4+ allowed "signed" javascript to access the local file system.
[lfs]
In Mozilla/ netscpe 6+ you can specify access to lfs in the prefs.js file
user_pref(...) whatever can remember the syntax exactly
In IE you can allow several methods to a
Let's get Jakob Nielsen to end this
-Original Message-
From: Jason Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:52 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
Yea but the issue with the mm home page is that it takes initially a
while to load, then ever
Interesting that you pick google.
You can test live without making it your main site. People understand that
news.google.com is testing. Not obvious that the www.macromedia.com site is the same.
Moreover, the focus of google.com is not the news, it's another function. People can
still use w
Yeah, but Google News works... Sorry.
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 09:40AM >>>
> If it's a beta version, why is it public then?
Sometimes when you are trying to experiment new things, you don't have
any
choices than to experiment "live".
Look at Google News (http://news.google.com/), it has b
Yeah I saw that.
I just figured Macromedia found out about my Kevin Lynch voodoo doll
who wears a little t-shirt emblazoned with "homesite rocks!"
--
jon
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 11:35:25 AM, you wrote:
JC> I noticed on the product page that Homesite is referred to a
-- Original Message --
From: "Benoit Hediard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Come on guys... it is a Beta version.
If it's truly a "Beta" version as it says, then going to http://www.macromedia.com
should not go to the new site. It should go to the old site with a "C
I appreciate that you guys are getting hammered here. I should have
thought you'd have expected it. I also hear you getting defensive, and
I can really understand that, too. I've been there.
That not withstanding, what you've essentially said here is this:
Whatever percentage the Opera marke
> Not release notes, the normal manuals.
How many of us have read the entire CFMX Manual?
Should have in the Release notes in BOLD like.
"We do not Expect ODBC Connections to work properly in CFMX,
We recommend you use JDBC drivers"
Joe Eugene
> -Original Message-
> From: Jochem van
Yea but the issue with the mm home page is that it takes initially a
while to load, then every click I make has this sluggishness to it, and
most of the buttons create a page request which seems contradict
macromedia flashes power of reducing http requests.
On a few flash lists I am active on gen
> My reaction would be to bitch. My solution would be to only use CFCs
> after rigorous testing
LOL.. Interesting...quite different approaches!.
Anyways.. to end the topic... I already submitted the problem..
right after Sean/Mike gave me the Bug forum/Wish List site link.
The only 2 confirmation
Would that be a reason why the 10% doesn't visit the site then?
-s
-Original Message-
From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New MM.com
One thing to keep in mind is that while Opera may have 10% of the market
(does
And nothing against you Christian i'm sure if it was upto you
they would "test" these things first so you didn't have to listen to us
complain :)
- Original Message -
From: "Christian Cantrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:12 AM
Su
That is the biggest load of BS i've heard all day. Its a website!
Test the crap before you upload it, if you dont have a QA deptment get one.
If you do have one fire the people because they obviously don't know what
they are doing.
You can't release a site that doesn't even let you see the front pa
And that matters why exactly? More to the point, it could also mean that the
percentage could be higher.
It's still not an excuse for it not working or validating.
Mike Wokasch
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> One thing to keep in mind is that while Opera may have 10% of the market
> (d
Buried under accessibility, unfortunately.
Mike Wokasch
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> Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 7:02:08 AM, Jochem van Dieten wrote:
>
> > Overall, I find the site rather slow when using the Flash version. ...
>
> I agree. I really dislike the new site.
>
> > As a re
> If it's a beta version, why is it public then?
Sometimes when you are trying to experiment new things, you don't have any
choices than to experiment "live".
Look at Google News (http://news.google.com/), it has been launch to the
public several months ago (nearly a year) and it is still Google
Yeah, just what I was saying.
I migrated 1ish users for an isp (a generated dailup config file
depending on location, username etc) like this.
Worked well. That was in CF2 I think!!!
WG
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From: mike sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 16:25
To: CF
Benoit -
First point, if it's beta, why is it on their production site? Furthermore, it fails
some of the most basic requirements (i.e. document validity). Moreover, it doesn't
even have alt tags on some images.
Second, Flash, in of itself, may not be bad design or confusing, but it certainly is
I noticed on the product page that Homesite is referred to as "The HTML
hand-coding tool with a cult following" Cult following? Stable, fast and
easy-to-use now qualify for marginalized status? Man, this Kool-Aid is
delicious!
- Jim
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From: Chris Montgomery [mailto:[EM
The exchange is linked from the Download page, which itself is linked from
virtually every page on the site.
mike chambers
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From: "paris lundis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite a pain this
morning t
One thing to keep in mind is that while Opera may have 10% of the market
(does it?), that does not mean that 10% of people who visit the Macromedia
site have it. It may be a much smaller percentage.
mike chambers
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From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTEC
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