RE: [cms-list] Third-party products that convert MS office files

Guy Chammas wrote: "I am looking for a product that can be integrated with a Java-based CMS and will convert MS Office files into either XML or "good" html." -- Well Guy if you are looking for conversion and integration with a Java based CMS, you could consider HTML Transit. This has been around

Re: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

>I'm not entirely sure exactly what we're arguing about anymore< I lost track some 70 messages ago. Nonetheless I've read some very interesting perspectives along the way. Don't think of it as an argument, think of it as a lively discussion among 2000 of your closest friends. > ...Don't forget t

Re: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .AsporC#Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

I run a consulting business based on free software (that is free as in speech, not free as in beer). I have a product (VishwaKarma) that is a free software control panel for web hosting companies. It was originally created for a client; the deal subsequently fell through and I enhanced it and r

RE: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .AsporC# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

Hi Nuno, You make a number of cogent and powerful arguments for not opening up the source. I can only respond to some of them under... > "Nuno" == Nuno Lopes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Nuno> [snip] Nuno> I would be interest in hearing from people driving Nuno> consulting busin

Re: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

Well, I have to admit I'm beginning to feel a bit lost in this topics, I'm not entirely sure exactly what we're arguing about anymore and I can't make sense of some of Nuno's statements (no offense). I'm very glad Austin made some points so I didn't have too :) I can only state these as "facts" as

Wysiwyg XML editor was Re: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

that a CMS should store a rather than a > with style, but why do you assume a _good_ WYSIWYG can't present the > author with a styled view (not just preview) in authoring time, while > saving off structured content? Some of us do, clients love the approach. > Multiple outputs - no problem, an aut

Re: [cms-list] Re: Open Source vs. FREE

Hi all, The biggest problem with understanding is that the FREE that is used by GNU is not the word that most Western people using the English language associate with a FREE product. Most people associate FREE with "no cost", when in fact the use of the term FREE (within this context) relates to

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

Hi Austin you wrote, >I'm assuming any publishing. Web, paper, audio, etc. In fact, the more >media formats you publishg to, the MORE important it is to retain only >structural markup and not stylistic markup. You also wrote: >I thought I made that clear. If your requirement is for only one deli

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

Austin wrote: >Which post? Ok, you have taken the following statement from the first post of mine to this thread >Structured information is an artificial artifact needed by computers in >most cases. We humans to not need it or want it! We are visual! (That is >our freedom) After that post Matti

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

Sandra said: > I still have to > apply some sort of > headings and styles so that I can keep the document content > organized while > I write it. I completely agree. I wasn't arguing against that. I was arguing against the need for an author to have the ability to visually style elements above

Re: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

> Depends on the writer. Some of us still fondly remember Atex. Sure, it was prone to crashing and revealing your e-mail to others in the newsroom, and sure its keyboard had six gazillion indeciperhable keys, but it really focused your mind - since all you could do with it was write (plus, the keyb

Re: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

> Or do they simply prefer to work in a WYSIWYG style that offers some meaningful visual feedback to the author as they write? Both > Of course, you can't approximate the final output if you don't know WHAT the final output device/platform/environment will be all of the time (which is often true

RE: [cms-list] What an active group - Bricolage

I second. I have a lot of catching up to do.. / I'm about to take Bricolage out for a spin(thanks eweek for reminding me); anyone have any opinions on this contraption? Obviously news centric, how about customization prospects? Karl Fast, I would value your opinion here. That is if you got around t

[cms-list] RE: Open Source vs. FREE

"Nuno Lopes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > maybe go open source> > > The question is how to fund that development? > > Very big question, and I've thought about this a lot. At the risk of being cained in public by some groups, I'll proffer my humble thoughts. An overly simplified argument for

RE: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any.AsporC# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?

I'm new to the list and have been following this topic closely. This is my first post. I am surprised by the confusion related to the Open Source model. A common thread seems to be, "I am a software developer. How can I make money from Open Source." The blunt answer is that you probably can'

[cms-list] What an active group

Hi list, Just want to say that although I've almost spent the whole afternoon reading/replying on this list, I completely love what we talk about. I think we broke a record today. When I came in this morning there were like 63 new messages from the list and there must have been at *least*

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

> > > However, many of the journalists I've > > shadowed still > > prefer to write in a WYSIWYG style that approximates the > > final output. > > Or do they simply prefer to work in a WYSIWYG style that offers some > meaningful visual feedback to the author as they write? > Depends on the wr

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

> However, many of the journalists I've > shadowed still > prefer to write in a WYSIWYG style that approximates the > final output. Or do they simply prefer to work in a WYSIWYG style that offers some meaningful visual feedback to the author as they write? Of course, you can't approximate the

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

> Where is the content/presentation separation in my post? Which post? > So basically > because of the computer cannot present easily in a way that allows the > reader to click on quotes and go directly to the post were it was > extracted from (Readers Usability). What? > Further more there is

[cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

I've been reading all of the great responses today waiting for an appropriate time to respond. I'm glad I waited. Dwight, you're right on the money with your response - worded much more clearly than my own. This is precisely the point I was trying to make. It isn't the final presentation that

Re: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .Asp orC# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

Hi Rob, Thanks for the perspective. I'm a big fan of Zope, although we don't use it because it's not in PHP. :( I struggle very much with my love of Open Source, and the need to make money, and I would love to open source our software but don't have the ability currently to make that leap fro

Re: [cms-list] CMS Product Feature Matrix

From: "Michael Bardeggia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Thanks Alex. A while back, someone posted a link to a German site..that > listed many products with features. Does anyone remember the post? www.contentmanager.de, perhaps? > > Mike Bardeggia > > -Original Message- > From: Alek Andreev [ma

RE: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any

RE: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .AsporC# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?.. (Nuno Lopes) --- I hope I'm doing this right...I've never posted here before. --- Anyhow, Nuno, I agree with you 110%. I am also in the middle of developing portal/C

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

Hi Austin, >What was the example? Was it the formatting of replies to the list? Both of >your examples were examples of structured content...one just had a lot more >(and redundant) meta information...which, of course, is uneeded in the >context of an informal email discussion. Redundant? Yes, on

[cms-list] RE: Open Source vs. FREE

I must say that if you are afraid of competition, do not open source your product. I am a memeber of the OpenACS community, and while our CMS solutions are not quite all there, the community is very strong. The code is not owned by any one company. The community drives development. There are many

RE: [cms-list] CMS Product Feature Matrix

That's the one. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Brent Nordin [mailto:bnordin@;itnet.ca] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'CMS List' Subject: RE: [cms-list] CMS Product Feature Matrix Dutch not German, but useful nonetheless: http://www.hartman-commun

Re: [cms-list] multi-language cms

Hi Andre, On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 11:53 AM, André Milton wrote: Hi Robert, Big big big issue here. In Montreal (where we are) everything MUST be english and french (by law). I don't think I've ever built a non-multilingual site... oh maybe 1 but I was in New York at the time. ;)

Re: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .Asp orC# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

Working at Zope Corporation it shouldn't be surprising that I get asked the "How does a company that develops/manages/publishes/guides/uses an open source product make money?" question at least five times per week. As many already know Zope gives away the Zope Application Serv

RE: [cms-list] CMS Product Feature Matrix

Dutch not German, but useful nonetheless: http://www.hartman-communicatie.nl/content/tools.htm Brent Nordin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cms-list-admin@;cms-list.org] On Behalf Of Michael Bardeggia Sent: November 6, 2002 2:35 PM To: CMS List Subject: RE: [cms-list]

Re: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .Asp orC# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 08:28 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote: How about something 'catchy' like Source Freedom Rating AF - Available, free ditribution AL - Available, limited ditribution AR - Available, restricted distribution UF - Unavailable, free ditribution UL - Unavailable, limite

[cms-list] Obtree and others pt2

Guys, thanks for the various feedback to my last mail. Have been busy looking through lots of systems this week. One that has particularly caught my eye has been NQContent, http://www.nqcontent.com , which seems to me very flexible and well thought out. Has anyone evalua

Re: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .Asp or C# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 08:18 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] You show Pillar Software how to make money by giving away BBuilder and we will consider it. [/snip] Tony, I never said anything concerning Pillar, nor would I suggest that you give it away. What I was saying is that FRE

Re: [cms-list] Re: Open Source vs. FREE

On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 07:58 AM, Stéphane Croisier wrote: Great definition Jay... I would love that others "free software" fanatics also share your point of view. The open source community has really to learn to differenciate 1) the rights of getting an access to the source code o

RE: [cms-list] CMS Product Feature Matrix

Thanks Alex. A while back, someone posted a link to a German site..that listed many products with features. Does anyone remember the post? Mike Bardeggia -Original Message- From: Alek Andreev [mailto:alek@;fadata.bg] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subje

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

> It's impressive how people take something out of context and republish > it and argue against it. It's fun! ;o) > But is also impressive how people did not comment my example > using this > same list as an object to study. Probably is because Information > Structure and related benefits is on

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

Hi all, Austin wrote: >> Structured information is an artificial artifact needed by >> computers in >> most cases. We humans to not need it or want it! We are >> visual! (That is >> our freedom) >Well, humans *do* need structure (we're not very efficient in an >unorganized environment), but you

RE: [cms-list] multi-language cms

Hi Chris, I don't think you understand what I'm saying. There are no language specific pages. You don't "force pages into their respective tongues". It's the other way around. A page should have "versions" in every tongue. And it definately isn't machine translation... Don't know where y

RE: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .AsporC# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

Hi all, I'm very interested on this subject because I'm building a CMS/Portal solution with Microsoft.NET and C# (very embryonic). This solution would encompass my experience and all the needs that have been stated in this list since it at began. Furthermore I would not mind to put it in Open Sour

Re: [cms-list] a word about writers and CM

I remember using nroff back in the days before WYSIWYG, and I've got a few bridges to sell to anyone who thinks that it is time to go back. IMO, the pro XML/XSLT faction miss-characterizes the writer's need for WYSIWYG. I don't think that the writers are taking a hard line on controlling the

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

> IK -- Yes, but > a) form based content entry does not prevent content being entered in > the 'wrong' field in addition to being not very flexible to > begin with, I didn't think we were talking about form-based input. You, of course, only would want to use form-based input for very structured

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

> What's wrong with a mixed approach, where you have a > context-specific form > married with a WYSIWYG editor? Actually, that is what I meant. I probably worded it incorrectly. I don't mean a forms-based input UI. I do mean a WYSIWYG editor, but the one where you can only style the content base

RE: [cms-list] multi-language cms

Reading this peaks my interest. What do you mean by "force"? Why would you want to force pages into their respective tongues? How are you translating it...machine translation? When brute force translations occur, the data is not going to be current, product specs are going to be off, linguistically

RE: [cms-list] multi-language cms

Hi Robert, Big big big issue here. In Montreal (where we are) everything MUST be english and french (by law). I don't think I've ever built a non-multilingual site... oh maybe 1 but I was in New York at the time. ;) I can safely say from experience that even though sites today are often

Re: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .Asp orC# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

From: "Tony Leotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > and hell...look at MYSQL!! That is a great exampleMySQL > is free...or is it? That company has like 65 employees! So they are > making money some how! MySQL is availiable in a free license, but you can not use it in a commercial product with that lic

[cms-list] CMS Product Feature Matrix

Does anyone know where I can get a CMS Product/Feature Matrix? Thanks, Mike Bardeggia FeedStream.com -- http://cms-list.org/ trim your replies for good karma.

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

> I fully agree that a CMS should store a rather than a > with style, but why do you assume a _good_ WYSIWYG can't present the > author with a styled view (not just preview) in authoring time, while > saving off structured content? There *are* some problems with it, though. Namely if it shows

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

> I think I may have asked this previously, but are any CMSs using a > WYSIWYG-like editor that draws the style widgets directly > from a CSS or XLST > document? I'd like to see a simple editor that has the > ability to pull in a > set of XML tags and CSS based on the type of document being >

RE: [cms-list] multi-language cms

Hello Mattias, There are many ways to do it and it is really up to you to decide how you want to do it. I think the best approach is to keep all files in the same directory because there is often media shared by all languages that's best stored in the root. Flat navigation is also easier

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

> > Of course, these two elements are presentational tags, not structural tags and have no place in a text editor that is producing content for delivery on multiple platforms. > Clearly, _most_ writers like to give *emphasis* and some > degree of NUANCE > to their writing. While I completely

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

> I fully agree that a CMS should store a rather than a > with style, but why do you assume a _good_ WYSIWYG can't present the > author with a styled view (not just preview) in authoring time, while > saving off structured content? There *are* some problems with it, though. Namely if it shows st

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

At 10:14 AM 11/6/2002 +, Nuno Lopes wrote: Joseph wrote: > Integrating seamlessly with the creative process > is one of the most important factors for the > advancement of CMS's. Mattias wrote: > Well, I agree to what your saying to a certain > extent. It's important that authors get feedback

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

> Structured information is an artificial artifact needed by > computers in > most cases. We humans to not need it or want it! We are > visual! (That is > our freedom) Well, humans *do* need structure (we're not very efficient in an unorganized environment), but your point is very valid. That s

RE: [cms-list] a word about writers and CM

> To many writers, how their content is rendered is just as > important as the > writing itself. If you are saying 'well' vs. 'poorly' then, sure. > Indeed for many writers, their work is the sum of its > parts - to include the formatting [font family, color ,size, > etc.] , and > spatial rela

Re: [cms-list] Open Source vs. FREE

On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 15:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Of course, this definition exposes Microsoft's background assumption that selling >software is > always necessary for software businesses. But (to respond to Tony Leotta's posting) >I think > that part of the Open Source idea is that th

RE: [cms-list] multi-language cms

I was thinking about: - predictable behavior (giving the user what he/she expects) - give the user the ability to configure the application to his/her needs Perhaps that makes clearer what I had in mind. Ingo >>-Original Message- >>From: Todd Warfel [mailto:lists@;mk27.com] >>Sent: Wedn

[cms-list] Open Source vs. FREE

I think that people might be being a little hard on the term 'Open Source'. As I understand the history of it, it was a term of art devised by people like Raymond, Perens, etc. to replace Stallman's prefered 'Free Software' (which was deemed to have the wrong connotations for businessmen). S

[cms-list] Globalized web content and CMS...??

Hello everyone! I am just trying to take the pulse of the real users and drivers of today's Content Management Systems. I am looking to get a better understanding of their views when it comes to multi-lingual web content, translators, reviewers and ultimately, the delivery of that content. I am n

RE: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .AsporC# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 09:55, Jay Blanchard wrote: > [snip] > Pillar Software should be allowed to charge some clients for > support...and hell...look at MYSQL!! That is a great exampleMySQL > is free...or is it? That company has like 65 employees! So they are > making money some how! > [/snip

Re: [cms-list] Quick 'n Dirty UML editor

OmniGraffle: http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnigraffle/ MacOS only On 11/6/02 8:50 AM, "Tijs Teulings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Altough slightly off-topic this list is bound to have good suggestions on > the following... > > I was wondering if anybody on this list uses, and

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

> Mattias wrote: > Hey, when you look in the real world at an apple, do you think "an apple" or > do you think "a red round glossy thing with a pin sticking out of it"? > Humans labels > things for simplification, in contrast, what gives the most information: > XML rocks or style="font:family:bo

RE: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .Asp orC# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

[snip] Pillar Software should be allowed to charge some clients for support...and hell...look at MYSQL!! That is a great exampleMySQL is free...or is it? That company has like 65 employees! So they are making money some how! [/snip] Excellent Point! So maybe we should ask some business guru

RE: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .Asp orC# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

I like PHP Nukelots of developers creating modules that "PLUG-IN" to a core CMS or Portal system. Let's say the core of BBuilder was Opened up Ok...now C# ASP.NET developers all over the world could develop modules that "PLUG-IN". That is nice! Pillar Software should be allowed to charg

Re: [cms-list] multi-language cms

Not necessarily. Usability is more about - keeping the user informed (visibility of system status) - enabling them to complete tasks - not getting in their way when they try and complete a task - user control and freedom (always give the user a way out) - consistency and standards - error preventio

RE: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .Asp or C# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

I know I cc'ed you incorrectly opps! Sorry! But I really do believe in Open Source...but I just can't figure out how to make it work. -- http://cms-list.org/ trim your replies for good karma.

RE: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .Asp or C# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

That's OK, I'd like to see a way to make it work to. :) -Original Message- From: Tony Leotta [mailto:tonyl@;pillarsoftware.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 8:40 AM To: 'Jay Blanchard'; 'Søren Vejrum'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there

RE: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .Asp orC# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 09:12, Tony Leotta wrote: > Pillar Software has to pay Microsoft tens of thousands of dollars in the > form of software licenses. Because we actually pay Microsoft to use > their software...rather than steal it, which is immoral, illegal and > just plain wrong. > You're pro

RE: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .Asp orC# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

[snip] It can't/won't to most people - people who care enough about licensing to make it a focal point of their development strategy - because it's a religion to them. A way of life. It's unfortunate, I agree, but it certainly wasn't a 'mistake' from the point of view of people who care passion

RE: [cms-list] Quick 'n Dirty UML editor

You might want to check out Objecteering/UML Personal Edition at http://www.objecteering.com. I warn you though - it's not exactly simple, but it's free, it's pretty darn powerful, and it supports XMI (so you can export/import your models into another tool if you feel like it). You can also publi

RE: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .Asp orC# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 09:18, Jay Blanchard wrote: > [snip] > You show Pillar Software how to make money by giving away BBuilder and > we will consider it. > [/snip] > > Tony, > > I never said anything concerning Pillar, nor would I suggest that you give > it away. I suggested that, Jay. With s

RE: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .Asp or C# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

Hi Tony, > "Tony" == Tony Leotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Tony> Pillar Software has to pay Microsoft tens of thousands of Tony> dollars in the form of software licenses. Because we Tony> actually pay Microsoft to use their software...rather than Tony> steal it, which is im

RE: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .Asp or C# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

[snip] You show Pillar Software how to make money by giving away BBuilder and we will consider it. [/snip] Tony, I never said anything concerning Pillar, nor would I suggest that you give it away. What I was saying is that FREE is different than OPEN SOURCE. You can still 'sell' (license) your so

RE: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .Asp orC# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

> Why can't Open Source mean just that? Then you can have two categories of > Open Source; Free with free distribution and Licensed (charged for) with > distribution rules. > > There are Closed Source applications available for free, and CS apps > available Licensed (charged for). So why should i

RE: [cms-list] Quick 'n Dirty UML editor

I wouldn't call it *quick* - it's written in Java :( - but Poseidon is pretty full featured and has a free-to-download 'Community Edition'. http://www.gentleware.com Matt > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:cms-list-admin@;cms-list.org]On > Behalf Of Tijs Teulings >

RE: [cms-list] multi-language cms

>>if you click >>on the link on the home page labelled "Google.com [English]", >>they will >>set a cookie and you'll never be redirected to google.de again. >> >>It's easy but not explained. Kevin, OK, I have to admit I'm one of those purists who don't accept cookies. So that may be no problem fo

RE: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .Asp or C# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

Pillar Software has to pay Microsoft tens of thousands of dollars in the form of software licenses. Because we actually pay Microsoft to use their software...rather than steal it, which is immoral, illegal and just plain wrong. We have to pay our programmers much much more. I have asked my progr

[cms-list] Killing customers

Stewart Manley wrote: > > Alas, our customers (can't live with 'em, can't > kill 'em) have been unequivocal on the matter. Is that *true* about the killing? Are you sure? Rats. I've been doing it wrong all this time. The best part was that the number of complaints we receive had been dropping

RE: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .Asp or C# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

[snip] http://opensource.org/docs/definition.php The people behind the term 'open source' would disagree. Whether or not you consider it 'official' the thrust of 'open source' as a descriptive term is firmly behind things being 'free' as well as allowing 'access to source code'. [/snip] And I, f

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

> > It's interesting that it seems to be such a great controversy > around this, I > would think that many authors would relish the fact that > instead of spawning > out a multitude of html tags they can use a few simple and > meaningful ones. > But then again maybe the claim is that most cms's

[cms-list] Re: Open Source vs. FREE

Great definition Jay... I would love that others "free software" fanatics also share your point of view. The open source community has really to learn to differenciate 1) the rights of getting an access to the source code or being able to redistribute it and 2) the rights of using it. This is

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

Hi Mattias, Mattias wrote: >Well, UML is one thing, there the "presentation" is actual the content >itself. But I still can't see an application where it wouldn't do just to >be able to preview your writings visually, I mean content needs to conform >to some standard most often, if the headlines

[cms-list] Quick 'n Dirty UML editor

Hi, Altough slightly off-topic this list is bound to have good suggestions on the following... I was wondering if anybody on this list uses, and loves!, a simple graphical UML editor for quick prototypes (i.e. getting your thoughts on paper). Support for structural diagrams is enough, behavior di

Re: Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .Aspor C# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] - comes with full open program source (but is not Open Source as in FREE). [/snip] Open Source <> Free Open Source - the code is available to the licensee of the program for modification. It is encouraged that modifications be shared so that others may benefit from i

RE: [cms-list] multi-language cms

> Ingo Wrote > >your example has this done in a nice way. But there is also > one way how this > >shouldn't be done. www.google.com, when I enter it with a > german version of > >the browser I get redirected to www.google.de, no matter > what. I would call > >that usability. Since in my understa

Open Source vs. FREE - WAS RE: [cms-list] Are there any .Asp or C# Open Source Content Mangement Systems out there?..

[snip] - comes with full open program source (but is not Open Source as in FREE). [/snip] Open Source <> Free Open Source - the code is available to the licensee of the program for modification. It is encouraged that modifications be shared so that others may benefit from improvements. Directions

RE: [cms-list] Calling perl script from TeamSite TPL

Hi Madhu, the difference is the environment setting. You have to set the PATH variables for the oracle db like oracle_home oracle_lib etc. in the startup of the web server under which teamsite runs, or it has to be set for the user, that starts the web server. I have done this only for Solaris so I

[cms-list] Calling perl script from TeamSite TPL

Hi, I am using Interwoven's, TeamSite 5.5.2. I have written a perl script that makes use of DBD::ODBC to fire some queries to database. I am using System DSN to specify the connection string. The problem i am encountering is, when i run the script from a TPL. The script stops at create connection

Re: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

- Original Message - From: "Nuno Lopes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mattias Konradsson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:07 PM Subject: RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM > I really did not want to get in to this thread. I don't

[cms-list] XSL(T) Guru

Hi to all the XSL-Gurus outside. I'm new in xsl(t) programming. My problem is: I want to change a xsl-parameter outside the xsl (from a servlet) using xalan for the transformation. Is this possible? How? (I know that it's possible in PHP, but I want Java). Thanks in advanced. Mit freundlichen Grü

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

> Personally I think that vendords invested so much time and > money into their WYSIGWYG tools that they're loathe to give > them up ;) It's a easier sell to say "just press this button" > for bold than trying to explain the XML-paradigm [bzzzt] Incorrect, thank you for playing. As a man runnin

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

I really did not want to get in to this thread. I don't have the time at the moment. Mattias wrote: >I'm curious, can you give an example of where it doesn't work? Maybe I've >missed something :) My PC, by note I'm an advanced technical user. Furthermore my brain works visually (I'm very visual

RE: [cms-list] multi-language cms

Ingo Wrote your example has this done in a nice way. But there is also one way how this shouldn't be done. www.google.com, when I enter it with a german version of the browser I get redirected to www.google.de, no matter what. I would call that usability. Since in my understanding usability is abo

RE: [cms-list] multi-language cms

> > Are there any other issues to keep in mind when doing > > multi-language sites? > > There are loads of issues with multilingual sites. In addition to the predominantly technical issues Robert mentions, there are also business issues. Do you primarily author in one language and translate to

RE: [cms-list] multi-language cms

At 10:25 2002-11-06 +0100, Voigt, Ingo, NMG-FC said: >>At 00:00 2002-11-06 +0100, Lennart Regebro said: >>When doing language aware sites I think the language should >>be selected >>automatically from the languages selected in the browser, but >>that it's also >>important to have a possibility to s

RE: [cms-list] Are there any .Asp or C# Open Source Content MangementSystems out there?..

Hi, Warning: This is a referral to our own product, so I am biased, but I will keep it clean. The HardCore Web Content Management system: - comes with full open program source (but is not Open Source as in FREE). - runs on ASP (as well as PHP and JSP). - uses MS Acccess or MS SQL Server (as well

Re: [cms-list] multi-language cms

> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Wouldn't users rather expect the domainname to change ? > > Like: > > > > konradsson.fr > > konradsson.de > > konradsson.dk > > To me that indicates that you have company prescence in all of these > countries. That is only one reason that you want a multiple-langua

Re: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

> IMO clearly this clearly does not work for all kinds of writing > processes. But for some it works perfectly. The problem is the > generalization that this statement implies that does not have a basis > rather then speculation (or fashion). > > Best regards, > > Nuno Lopes > Independent Consulta

Re: [cms-list] multi-language cms

Hi Mattias > a) Should the url for a document in different languages be the same or > different, ie "document.html/sida.html" vs > "document.html?langID=1/document.html?langID=2" I'm leaning towards the > second alternative since it's easier to manage but I could be wrong on this. I'd lean towa

RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM

Hi all, Joseph wrote: >Integrating seamlessly with the creative process is one of the most >important factors for the advancement of CMS's Wow, I fully agree with everything that as been said by Joseph. Mattias wrote: >Well, I agree to what your saying to a certain extent. It's important that

Re: [cms-list] multi-language cms

I could have german Version of browser but I want the English version of the site Emad Sarhan - Original Message - From: "Apoorv Durga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Voigt, Ingo, NMG-FC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Lennart Regebro'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November

Re: [cms-list] multi-language cms

From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Wouldn't users rather expect the domainname to change ? > Like: > > konradsson.fr > konradsson.de > konradsson.dk To me that indicates that you have company prescence in all of these countries. That is only one reason that you want a multiple-language site. Best Regard

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