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2010-03-15 Thread Tim Ruppert
Thanks so much Ashish. Hans, whenever you have a chance to supply a brief bit about your new component it would be hugely helpful in having the community help to reconcile these together. Thanks again everybody. Cheers, Ruppert On Mar 12, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Ashish Vijaywargiya wrote: Hello

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2010-03-12 Thread Ashish Vijaywargiya
Hello Tim, I have already sent my comments before few days: (Sending here once again for your reference) - Hello Hans | Tim, Here are major points for your ready reference that are supported/ present in the eBay component before the introduction of ebaystore component:

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2010-03-12 Thread Ashish Vijaywargiya
Hello Tim, I have already sent my comments before few days: (Sending here once again for your reference) - Hello Hans | Tim, Here are major points for your ready reference that are supported/ present in the eBay component before the introduction of ebaystore component:

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2010-03-10 Thread Tim Ruppert
Just wanted to bump this since we're now approaching the middle of the month. Ashish, if you can point Hans to your writeup I'm sure this will help get this party started. I'd really like to see this consolidated before the release candidate gets put together in early April - and I'm sure a

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2010-02-27 Thread Ashish Vijaywargiya
Hello Hans | Tim, Here are major points for your ready reference that are supported/ present in the eBay component before the introduction of ebaystore component: * Multiple product store handling support in which you can maintain the relevant data for your product, category OOTB. * With

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2010-02-24 Thread Tim Ruppert
Hans, I see you've been busy again in the ebaystore and just wanted to get an update on when we might be able to see what's going on so that the community can help get back to the single ebay component again soon. I hope things are going well on that new impl! Cheers, Ruppert On Feb 16,

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2010-02-24 Thread Hans Bakker
Hi Ruppert, can at the moment only repeat what i said before...let us first finish it we plan to finish it at the end of this month, more probably next week Regards, Hans On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 00:01 -0700, Tim Ruppert wrote: Hans, I see you've been busy again in the ebaystore and just

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2010-02-24 Thread Tim Ruppert
Great - looking forward to hearing more next week - good luck on the rest of it. Cheers, Ruppert On Feb 25, 2010, at 12:19 AM, Hans Bakker wrote: Hi Ruppert, can at the moment only repeat what i said before...let us first finish it we plan to finish it at the end of this month, more

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2010-02-16 Thread Tim Ruppert
Thanks Hans - and please just come with some information so that we, as a group, can try to get this reconciled into one app again. Cheers, Ruppert On Feb 15, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Hans Bakker wrote: Do not worry we are still working on it. This week we will do some more commits. We plan to have

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2010-02-15 Thread rohit
Hi Hans, Just checking if you have reached where you intend with this implementation. I hope that you have been not put off from developing it further. I have tried some of the features and think they can be very useful. Thanks, Rohit -- View this message in context:

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2010-02-15 Thread Hans Bakker
Do not worry we are still working on it. This week we will do some more commits. We plan to have this finished the end of this month. Regards, Hans On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 08:42 -0800, rohit wrote: Hi Hans, Just checking if you have reached where you intend with this implementation. I hope

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2010-02-06 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
I may be wrong, but some of the last commits make me think that Hans is trying to reconcile some of the features into the new eBay component. At least this is what I hope :-) Jacopo On Feb 6, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: Hans, could you please comment on this ASAP? I see that

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2010-02-06 Thread Hans Bakker
Let us first finish the new componentsometime this coming week then we will have a look what to do next regards, Hans On Sat, 2010-02-06 at 07:44 -0700, Tim Ruppert wrote: Hans, could you please comment on this ASAP? I see that additional commits keep going into this new

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2010-02-05 Thread Hans Bakker
A lot of assumptions in this email.. perhaps a question for you: who wrote the help screens in the old ebay component? please guide me to another place where this component is explained? Regards Hans On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 00:16 -0700, Scott Gray wrote: On 4/02/2010, at 10:58 PM, Sam

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2010-02-05 Thread Tim Ruppert
Still not an excuse - how about an email before you are too far down the road that began to ask about the current implementation and what you were planning on doing? That alone would have likely done two things: 1. Forced the community to better document the current implementation. 2. Forced

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2010-02-05 Thread Tim Ruppert
Fellow committer is in direct response to being clear that it doesn't matter who I'm talking to - Hans, Adam, Scott, David, etc. I'm not calling out a person in particular - only calling out the committer who instead of giving us an improved ebay component has decided to give everyone both a

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2010-02-05 Thread David E Jones
If it has nothing to do with any person in particular, then there should be no need to refer to a person, not even in a way that attempts to disguise the fact that you are referring to a person like writing Fellow Committer. When you use those words you ARE in fact talking about a person, and

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2010-02-05 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Feb 5, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: I hope that clarifies the stance and the use of the words fellow committer - not trying to be condescending - just really trying to avoid the consistent personal attack vibe around here since this has nothing to do with any person in

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2010-02-05 Thread Tim Ruppert
Just trying to not be personal - there is no attack in any message that's been sent. I was asked not to refer to people directly - so I have done that. I'll resend the message removing these words as well so that hopeful we can stop talking about feelings and can get directly to talking about

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2010-02-05 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Feb 5, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: My recommendation - even at this point - is that we start to have a discussion about all of the things this new component does, and the people who are using the old one can put all of their feature coverage on the table - then we can discuss

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2010-02-05 Thread Tim Ruppert
Responding to this message - per Jacopo and David's request. Hopefully this gets us back to discussing how we can go about fixing the ambiguity that has been introduced and will push us to a consolidated front on these features: --- My recommendation - even at this point - is that we start to

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2010-02-05 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: Just trying to not be personal - there is no attack in any message that's been sent. I was asked not to refer to people directly - so I have done that. I'll resend the message removing these words as well so that hopeful we can stop talking

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2010-02-05 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Ok, I arrived too late! :-) Jacopo On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: Just trying to not be personal - there is no attack in any message that's been sent. I was asked not to refer to people directly - so I have done

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2010-02-05 Thread Tim Ruppert
Too late - at least then we can discuss it without the other baggage in the thread. Anyways, the message is across so hopefully we can have that laid out so we can let the feature comparison begin! Looking forward to getting this resolved ASAP. Cheers, Ruppert On Feb 5, 2010, at 7:29 AM,

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2010-02-05 Thread Jacques Le Roux
I believe Tim has been touched by Heathenism (don't give names) but others don't :D Jacques From: Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com Ok, I arrived too late! :-) Jacopo On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:

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2010-02-05 Thread Ean Schuessler
I think Dale Carnegie said criticize circumstances and compliment people. David E Jones wrote: If it has nothing to do with any person in particular, then there should be no need to refer to a person, not even in a way that attempts to disguise the fact that you are referring to a person

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2010-02-04 Thread Scott Gray
Haan, I'm sorry to hear that, I guess if no one else feels strongly about this then I'll bow out and allow you to continue with your duplication of existing code. Regards Scott HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com On 3/02/2010, at 11:52 PM, Hans Bakker wrote: Scoot, i am sorry. As I

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2010-02-04 Thread Jacques Le Roux
I will try to have a look today, in order to introduce a 3d party in this discussion... Jacques From: Scott Gray scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com Haan, I'm sorry to hear that, I guess if no one else feels strongly about this then I'll bow out and allow you to continue with your duplication of

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2010-02-04 Thread Tim Ruppert
How can introducing another EBay implementation because a fellow committer is just too far down that road really ok for the rest of the project? Try explaining it to anyone trying to use the system why this was done - unfortunately we can't (don't know the original gap or what was solved by

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2010-02-04 Thread Sam Hamilton
Couple of things 1. calling one ebay and one ebaystore is confusing when browsing the source tree - perhaps once we know what the difference is between them call them that? If its correct - call one eBay-XML and the other eBay-API for example. 2. eBay has a huge amount of developer documentation

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2010-02-04 Thread Adam Heath
Tim Ruppert wrote: How can introducing another EBay implementation because a fellow committer is just too far down that road really ok for the rest of the project? Try explaining it to anyone trying to use the system why this was done - unfortunately we can't (don't know the original gap

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2010-02-04 Thread Scott Gray
On 4/02/2010, at 10:58 PM, Sam Hamilton wrote: Couple of things 1. calling one ebay and one ebaystore is confusing when browsing the source tree - perhaps once we know what the difference is between them call them that? If its correct - call one eBay-XML and the other eBay-API for example.

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2010-02-03 Thread Hans Bakker
Scott, You see the number of messages here? You think like us that everybody reads this? (Stupid us :-) ) i propose a work in progress wiki page and somebody who will push publication on this list, just what Jacques does well on the what is new list. Actually the work in progress page could be

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2010-02-03 Thread Jacques Le Roux
From: Scott Gray scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com On 2/02/2010, at 11:43 PM, Hans Bakker wrote: Jacopo, what we need is a wiki page where people can announce activities and plans. Not only from committers but also from contributors and perhaps even users. I have proposed this before. Scott: That's

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2010-02-03 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Feb 3, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Hans Bakker wrote: Jacopo, what we need is a wiki page where people can announce activities and plans. Not only from committers but also from contributors and perhaps even users. I have proposed this before. I think we already have something similar:

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2010-02-03 Thread Scott Gray
Hi Hans, Based on your recent commits I guess your considering this discussion over? Regards Scott On 3/02/2010, at 1:01 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: On Feb 3, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Hans Bakker wrote: Jacopo, what we need is a wiki page where people can announce activities and plans. Not

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2010-02-03 Thread Hans Bakker
Hi Scott, I only wondering why you send this email, can you explain that to me? Anyway, thanks for asking, i still think it is required. It showed with the ebay component: 1. creators of the original component would have liked to discuss it. 2. a non committer had already developed a component

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2010-02-03 Thread Scott Gray
On 3/02/2010, at 11:04 PM, Hans Bakker wrote: Hi Scott, I only wondering why you send this email, can you explain that to me? As I mentioned below, your commits indicated that you are continuing in your current direction which is something I disagree with, I was hoping some agreement could

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2010-02-03 Thread Hans Bakker
Scoot, i am sorry. As I mentioned in another email jacopo already saw that we are too far down the road. I cannot change. Anybody with Ebay knowledge would appreciate this contribution and replace the old ebay component directly with the new one. I am sorry i am very busy here and cannot spend

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2010-02-02 Thread Scott Gray
Okay so once I saw this I took the 5 minutes necessary to look at eBay's services and start thinking that this commit is a bad idea. Please correct me if any of the following is wrong: - When you originally brought this up, you described the problem as one of XML vs. API but I think what you

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2010-02-02 Thread Scott Gray
Hi Hans, Don't get me wrong, if the SDK simplifies the integration then I am all for it. I don't however think that your approach is a good one, IMO the most likely outcome will be that your implementation will be substantially different from what is currently available and because of that we

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2010-02-02 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Hi Hans, first of all, thank you for contributing this big amount of code. On Feb 3, 2010, at 5:05 AM, Hans Bakker wrote: Hi Scott, I am also not sure if we need 2 components. That can only be decided by the users of the original Ebay component isn't it? I do not know the user

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2010-02-02 Thread Hans Bakker
Jacopo, what we need is a wiki page where people can announce activities and plans. Not only from committers but also from contributors and perhaps even users. I have proposed this before. In this case we tried to extend the existing ebay component but found out that the xml interface could

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2010-02-02 Thread Scott Gray
On 2/02/2010, at 11:43 PM, Hans Bakker wrote: Jacopo, what we need is a wiki page where people can announce activities and plans. Not only from committers but also from contributors and perhaps even users. I have proposed this before. That's what we use the dev list for though right?