uld love to see a touch screen Controller. But that would have to be
essentially a Touch with batteries. I'm not seeing how it could cost the
$100 that fancy remotes seem to get these days.
With the Logitech Review, you get the video streamer and cool remote for
$300, so that sets an upper bound
eo and Hulu/Netflix.
While I think the Touch is very cool, at $300 retail, its a niche
product. I don't think Logitech is interested in niche products. But I
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> As another long time developer: Why are you questioning a reasonable
> user request?
Silly rabbit, you don't let developers decide such questions, that is
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o be
rolled out.
Andy confirmed that the modern devices will get IPv6 support in the
future, the old ones, Classic, Transporter, etc. will never see it. I
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d by my explicit generalization that the big labels (and the RIAA
which cares only about the big labels) care only about money, music be
damned.
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> there?
I think they should be there.
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> Which Is Profitable". Independence is out the window: if it can't get
> a million views it's not worth it.
>
> It will be Radio of the 80's all over again, except marketed as choice.
Yes, but we ha
ve had an Ethernet network in my house since the early 1990s, and
these were the first hub or switches that I've ever seen fail. But it
can and does happen.
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d had buffers
at least twice as big. This effectively gave the SB2 four times the
buffer space, so WiFi usage was a lot more reliable.
Since the SB1 could not do anything without a server, and the server
automatically handled flac files, one could say that the SB1 music
system worked fine on flac
ears of its life, Tower Record made
all of their profit on the in-store poster placements, and placement at
the listening kiosks.
The prices in retail stores have to be as low as the mailorder shops.
They need the shelving fees to keep the lights on and pay for rent.
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TV sets with
some with 3D.
Fat chance.
I buy a new TV every 10 to 15 years, whether I need it or not.
IMHO, 3D TV is purely a marketing fad.
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s over wifi problematic.
The SB1 can not talk to MySqeezeBox.com, etc. Its too "slim"
From a practical point of view, the SB-1, and SB-1g are too limited to
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now or
can't say.
Logitech continues the tradition of most electronic firms; they never
comment on future products. They only announce products when they are in
the warehouses and ready to sell. (The Touch was a special case
exception to that rule). So its pointless to speculate, those that kn
en the prices for
touchscreens down to levels that could not have been imagined when the
Touch was first created.
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gotta move these refrigerators, gotta move these color TVs
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an inexpensive PC, suitable to use as a music server. It may
make more sense to just have a backup copy of your music and assume that
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As for storage, they sit on the same shelf in the basement that they
have been on for 25+ years.
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, its silly not to just put in a gig stick.
You don't need anything special for video, the cheap on-board video that
fairly cheap motherboards is fine.
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Sure. What audio editor do you normally use? What OS? etc?
But the easiest approach may be to convert the flac files to .WAV/pcm
and use any audio editor program. Then just re-compress to flac. This
will lose tags, but for a small number of files it may be easier.
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On 06/16/2010 07:06 PM, ROBBIE BURNS wrote:
> Why
Why is it nonsense?
Do you really expect an answer? @snarly gave you the God's honest truth.
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gains nothing from the device's abilities.
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amazingly fine
resolution. Which means that designs expecting other small screens, will
be teeny tiny on the iPhone 4. Too small to read.
Sometimes limited resolution is good.
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SB2 and SB3/Classic. I assume that actually
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8B, since that is what 99% of all commercial patch cables use.
Image of how to do it properly.
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On 06/04/2010 01:57 PM, leif wrote:
> If my cat5e 300 + foot ethernet cable gets cut will I be able to splice
> it back together?
The precise answer is "maybe"
So put it in a conduit. Or just be prepared to replace it, its only
about $40 of cable.
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tions use ~100mHz, so a 500 foot cable is pretty
much a big assed antenna. At RF frequencies, everything is very weird.
At high RF frequencies, even the pros make weird predictions.
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eet, or worse, over 100 meters is serious.
There is no way to answer in general if you can use WiFi longer than 100
meters without trying it. And if it works today, it may not work
tomorrow, say if your neighbor puts a WiFi in that conflicts with yours.
Stop being rude, and go back to your original t
ave to strip off some of
the insulation on the individual strands, not the whole cable, but the 8
fine wires inside. If each of the 8 is one piece, its solid. If each is
made up of 20 or more very fine wires, its stranded.
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> If you run a unix variant (linux) there are lots of choices. I run a
> raid 1 system so I have two copies n two disks on my server.
Raid is not backup.
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orted FLAC decoding locally, so you
sent only 50% as many bytes, and second, it had twice the memory buffer,
so you had a net gain for four times the buffer for FLAC.
Even today, MP3 is a lot easier on marginal WiFi setups than FLAC.
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7;t been ugraded
in five years.
These forum threads are pathetic.
The old slims are no longer new. They won't be made better. All new
effort is going into the new platform.
The kind is dead, long live the king.
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I'm surprized that Jim is part of the problem, I tend to agree with
@kdf, these forums, especially general, audiophile, touch and boom are
all whine and no signal.
I was thinking it was kinda nice when the mailing lists were br
> anybody receiving this mail? The forum gateway seems to be down, but does the
> mailing list still work?
Nope, nobody here.
And you can't get there from here anyway.
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of their kin near them. You start out with just one,
and soon, you have a second and a third and
Which is why I've bought three SB1, a Transporter, Duet, Boom, Radio,
and Touch, and have talked a half dozen friends to start their own
flocks of SqueezeBoxen.
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lassic replacement, where you never touch it,
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space constrained, you
may prefer the Radio. Its no secret that the Radio firmware is a release
1.0 product, and while its been out for some time, 99% of the
engineering effort has gone to the Touch. Thus there are some known
issues with the Radio. I expect them to get fixed fairly so
oom or the Radio
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reat
goal. And in a few years, when all the chips do both bands, bonding, etc
for $0.05 each, it will be part of the product line for Logitech and
everyone else.
> Those early adopter geeks seem to have quite some purchasing
> power...
Geeks use having the latest and greatest as a proxy f
ally a matter of
when the "spec" part is finished, but rather its when do the chip makers
ramp up production so that the support chips are in large enough volume
to be inexpensive. Its one thing for early adopter geeks to want to by
the first 802.11n router, its another thing for Log
et is that if you are waiting until then, you will be waiting until
the product after the Touch is available.
BTW: There is zero need for 11n for audio wireless.
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rlying OS.
Or as it is said more properly,
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arly someone
seriously underestimated the time and effort it would take to bring it
to market. Which is why they are living in a hut in Siberia.
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ion,
unreachable. Most common trolls seem to get 2/10 or 3/10, some rise to
5/10. The judges are fair, but not generous.
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seudoscience, it gets more
from the judges. If it uses well established nonsense such as jitter, it
gets some, etc.
The best score is 10/10, for perfect execution, creativity, and freshness.
Note, a 1/10 is still troll food, just not as perfect.
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ook at the French/German and other
sections of the forum. They exist even though they get very little traffic.
Forum sections are cheap.
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th00ht wrote:
> So honestly, when will the Squeezebox Classic be phased out and not
> supported anymore?
Er, the Squeezebox 1 and Slmp3 are still supported.
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> Is this characteristic of the display and/or PSU failing?
or possible characteristic of a failing display
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You can keep making a handful of Transporters. You can not keep making
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h smaller buffer, so
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sawdin wrote:
> If yes, doesn't that mean my
> soundcard has no effect on the quality of what I hear when using a SB
> product?
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forgot I already had.
I think I've bought about 10. I used to keep a printout of my collection
from SlimServer when I went to Tower Records.
I still probably buy 20 to 30 CDs a year.
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> andyg;507814 Wrote:
>> Yeah I hate to burst your bubble but Touch is still a few months away.
>
> Q: Is v.7.5 on a similar schedule?
I believe that they are tied at the hip.
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an its warranted, useful,
or valuable. Let alone true.
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rom him until/when/if the
Radio gets work on its sound/digital filters, etc.
More specifically, I would not expect to see Caleb talking about the
Touch's sound, since it doesn't have speakers, it doesn't make a lot of
sound. Nor would I expect him to chime in on mySB.com or similar
JJZolx wrote:
> I think there are just intermittent problems.
There are clearly problems. I agree that they seem intermittent.
Chrome vs FF seems to make no difference to my usage, its just flakey.
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e user experience, music and other media in their car.
They are doing this for a reason.
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ich gives them four times the buffer.
It makes a huge difference.
For MP3 files, its not an issue.
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> Not a chance in a billion.
Pessimist. I say its more like one in a million. Still pretty low.
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enty miles, then entering the park and
driving back twenty miles.
Plus, the horses knew the way home, so if they had one or two too many,
the horse would get them home. Even better, now DUI while riding.
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rom 96 to 44.1
is more complex, but there is a chance that the Classic/SB3 can process
48kHz natively. So there is no need to bother going to 44.1
Obviously if you are doing FFTs to try to use digital transformation,
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ncate them all to 16
bits using a shift-right by eight instruction.
Converting 24/96 to 16/44.1 or even 24/44.1 is a different matter
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s thread. The SB3/Classic is
done. Its never going to do anything more than it does today. The Server
may do fancy stuff in the future, but its not going to be enhanced. The
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bruce wrote:
> running on a computer somewhere on the network, then that would truly be
> a big step forward.
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SB3, and the SB3 is just a new plastic package on the SB2. Its really
old. Its ancient, almost prehistoric, in computer peripheral times. The
underlying technology of the Classic/SB3/SB2 is nearly too old to
contemplate. Sure, its dirt cheap, but so is a Pentium 4 computer.
t could
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ol new features will slow down or perhaps stop.
So if you like what it does today, you are fine forever.
If you bought it because of what it may do sometime in the future, you
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to buy Sun (and MySql) and there are already forks off by the open
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tamanaco wrote:
> What do you think?... Am I dreaming here?
More like a nightmare for me.
I don't want my music packaged and controlled by the borg.
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source when you install the software.
Logitech could follow the big banks or excite.com into the ether, and my
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e Receiver, Boom, and other things are not in the living room.
Seems normal enough to me.
@havoc1 you can always give some to friends and family, that is what I
did with my SB1 and SB1-G units. I didn't want the wive to think that I
was obsessive about SqueezeBoxen.
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ghts made no sense.
The Feds can say you must offer the part for sale, but they can't say
that a person driving a 10 year old car will decide it makes sense to
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in our homes every three years. Toasters,
> refrigerators, phones (oh wait we already do) radio alarm clocks,
> etc...
Yep, and automobiles are not that far behind. I had a car that was
totalled because the headlights burned out. The replacement HID units
were $1000 each, two were the list pric
ut nearly all of them as inexpensive as a Transporter do
today. Any ten year old computer is pretty much gone.
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heir prices are being driven
by volume down quickly.
It will be a lot easier for Logitech to make and sell Touch units at
lower prices than they could with the Classic.
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n or so operating systems, as I have, going
from one to the next is really not that big of a deal. Sure, the
commands are different, but the concepts are universal.
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it as the SqueezeBoxServer? Either with Windows or with Linux?
There is nothing that says your server has to be the same OS as what you
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andyg wrote:
> The MV office will be closing early next year, everyone is moving to the
> Logitech HQ in Fremont.
No wonder Dean and Sean left the company, who wants to commute to
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You technically don't need the GUI, but I find it very useful during
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en if there is a tool, how often do you need to run it? every power
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o set the address manually on the
> Duet Receiver (does anyone have a guide?).
I have had a Duet Receiver from the earliest days that it was released,
and I have no clue if there is a menu anywhere to set that.
I just have my DHCP server assign the same address to my Receiver based
on its m
ces on the network claiming to be
the same IP address, its very bad.
The normal model is to find the thing on your network that is serving up
DCHP addresses, and go there and force it to assign the address you want.
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Get that to work, and then we will address how to use names.
There are lots of ways to set that up, but details depend on a lot of
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once the Touch is really shipping, the value of an SB3 is going to crater.
Lots of current consumer mass market electronics are like toasters: buy
them, when the break, buy another. Even expensive LCD HDTVs have no
serviceable parts.
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Pat Farrell
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