Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Can this be changed? / SM2EKM - Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: No. The SM; (and BG;) reports from the K3 are one S-unit increments from S0 to S9 and 5 dB steps above S9. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You mus

FW: [Elecraft] K3-Problem with DX spot point-&-click and ACLog

2008-10-30 Thread Terry Schieler
I think that, in the spirit of the Elecraft design team and this reflector (and before Wayne and Eric feel the need to step in), I would like to ask that this thread be terminated at this point. I was simply trying to provide a "heads-up" to other K3 owners. It has never been my intention to up

RE: [Elecraft] K3-Problem with DX spot point-&-click and ACLog

2008-10-30 Thread Terry Schieler
Hi Dave (W7AQK) et all: You are correct, Dave. I have been a strong supporter of Scott's logging software for many, many years. I spent a great deal of my own time working with him to get ACLog to work with my (then new) FT1000MP. We finally got there, and it worked flawlessly ever since. That

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Problem with DX spot point-&-click and ACLog

2008-10-30 Thread David Yarnes
Terry and All, Hmmm! Sure doesn't sound like the Scott I've been dealing with for 8 years? 10 year? I have been using his ACLog program for all that time, and he has always been very cooperative. I would add, however, that when I inquired if he had ever thought about offering an adaptation

RE: [Elecraft] K3: No measurable voltage on band data lines?

2008-10-30 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
> Is this normal - in particular, is it normal not to be able > to measure a positive voltage on the "high" pins of the ACC > connector with nothing other than the meter attached? I > realize that these are "open collector", but I would have > expected to read some positive voltage. yes, thi

[Elecraft] K3: No measurable voltage on band data lines?

2008-10-30 Thread Dan Levin
I'm still trying to debug my problem with the Top Ten band decoders and my K3 (s). When I put a volt meter on the band data output pins of the K3's ACC connector, I don't see any positive voltage (all the pins read zero). When I connect the ACC pins to the Top Ten decoder via an appropriate cable

[Elecraft] Re: TUNE bug - DATA / SPLIT

2008-10-30 Thread Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM
Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM wrote: I believe I've discovered an obscure bug - MCU 2.58 Situation is both VFO A and B are in DATA mode, on different frequencies (14MHz band), and SPLIT is on. I hold TUNE. TX goes on, and the display changes mode to CW, but instead of making a carrier, I modulate a

[Elecraft] TUNE bug - DATA / SPLIT

2008-10-30 Thread Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM
I believe I've discovered an obscure bug - MCU 2.58 Situation is both VFO A and B are in DATA mode, on different frequencies (14MHz band), and SPLIT is on. I hold TUNE. TX goes on, and the display changes mode to CW, but instead of making a carrier, I modulate audio from *mic* (NOT even line-in)

RE: [Elecraft] K2 Transmitter Tests

2008-10-30 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
to plain text since most, like the elecraft e-mail reflector, only allow plain text messages. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Hi Elecrafters, > URL: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/attachments/20081030/dc467a76/atta chment-0001.htm How can this kind of attachment be read ?

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Problem with DX spot point-&-click and ACLog

2008-10-30 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
Jeff Wandling W7BRS wrote: The way for him to solve the problem is to make the source GPL'd. There's a fair number of technical people on this list who would be able to patch his code to make it work. Everyone benefits, including him by being able to sell the improved code base with the prem

RE: [Elecraft] Clearing memories M1-M4

2008-10-30 Thread Julian, G4ILO
Ralph Parker wrote: > > I guess my thickness is showing again. > Somebody pse explain why a blank memory is a good thing. > I'd think you'd just not push the button. > Unfortunately some of us are not perfect and push the button accidentally, or at the wrong time. These buttons can be used as

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter vs what I REALLY want.

2008-10-30 Thread ab2tc
Hi Julian, Don't count out LP-PAN. True, it needs PowerSDR-IF, but it will not take the whole screen. Even the full display takes only about a quarter of my screen (1680x1050), but I can get rid of everything below and to the right of the panadapter display if I wish. I don't do that though becau

[Elecraft] RE: Clearing memories M1-M4

2008-10-30 Thread Ralph Parker
>...but really would like to be able to clear them completely like you can >easily do with the memories. I guess my thickness is showing again. Somebody pse explain why a blank memory is a good thing. I'd think you'd just not push the button. VE7XF ___

RE: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
> Anyway, since you do external software for the K3, can you > confirm that an S-meter displayed on the PC could get signal > strength data from the K3 that has a fine enough granularity > to show a change of 1 or 2 dB? No. The SM; (and BG;) reports from the K3 are one S-unit increments fro

[Elecraft] K2 Transmitter Tests

2008-10-30 Thread Raymond METZGER
Hi Elecrafters, > URL: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/attachments/20081030/dc467a76/atta chment-0001.htm How can this kind of attachment be read ? Thanks and 73 Raymond, F4FNT K3/100 # 615, K2/100 # 5,636 ___ Elecraft mailing list P

Re: [Elecraft] Re memories M1-M4

2008-10-30 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Excuss my ignorance, but why do you need to complete clear it? 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- No sensible decision can be made any longer without taking into account not only the world as it is, but the world as it will be. -Isaac Asimov, scientist and writer (1920-1992) On 30 Oct 2008, at 21:45, D

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread K7TV
Julian, I tend to use S-meters more for purposes other than for giving signal reports, but when I do give a signal report I prefer to make it an honest one and update it later in the qso. When I get a non-real report of 599 e.g. from a dx, it kind of neutralizes the joy of having made the contac

RE: [Elecraft] Re memories M1-M4

2008-10-30 Thread Don Nesbitt
According to my many exchanges with Wayne, the ability to completely (that is clear) M1-M4 is "on the list." Right now, all you can do is replace (overwrite) what you already put into that M1 - M4 specific memory. I've replaced a few of them with a single "dit" but really would like to be able to

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter vs what I REALLY want.

2008-10-30 Thread Julian, G4ILO
Ralph Parker wrote: > > What I REALLY want is a stand-alone spectrum display (think 756 PRO). > That's the main reason I'm keeping the Pro III for 6m. > I'd like one too. Though I'd settle for a soundcard based one that didn't come with a whole screenful of SDR software attached to it so I cou

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread Julian, G4ILO
K7TV wrote: > > Are you referring to the K3's ability to display audio output level in mV > or "dbV"? > While mere signal reports can reasonably be given by ear, I have > measurement in my blood and really appreciate that K3 capability. > I think signal reports are more politics or psychology

RE: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
> MacLoggerDx has an S-meter and has for all rigs :-) As does DXLab Suite (CI-V Commander). I have updated the K3 S-meter definition file for use with the extended mode command responses and AA6YQ has updated the next release of Commander to make use of the extended response modes. > ---

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread K7TV
Are you referring to the K3's ability to display audio output level in mV or "dbV"? While mere signal reports can reasonably be given by ear, I have measurement in my blood and really appreciate that K3 capability. When I am not in a hurry, it is good for something like looking at filter response.

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] If you are a DXer, you need the KRX3!

2008-10-30 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
I have to agree with all that - I worked VP6DX back in February on 80m at 07:27 UTC, 120W SSB from Bracknell England - 8976 miles, on a long wire! This was first call - small pileup and they came straight back to me - what can I say, my best DX so far :-) 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- I have never

[Elecraft] [K3] Updated Schematics

2008-10-30 Thread Lyle Johnson
The Elecraft website "Manuals & Downloads" section has an updated set of schematics which match the currently shipping K3 products. Enjoy! 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread Guy, K2AV
Wasn't there a way or going to be a way to display or send absolute dBm for signal strength. That could just be a program running and getting reports from the K3 over the serial port. Integer dBm would tell you everything you needed to know. 73, Guy. -- View this message in context: http://n2.

RE: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread K7TV
I find the K3 S-meter a wonderful contrast to those other rigs I have had where I had to mentally compensate for the terrible non-linearity (in dB), i.e. S9=S9, S8=S8, S7=S7, S5=S6, S1=S5 and nothing below the real S5 even moves the meter. I haven't even begun to play with the AGC settings in the

[Elecraft] K3 Ready in 2.1 Months but long QRX on KRX3

2008-10-30 Thread Ralph K1ZZI
Placed my order September 1st and I was notified yesterday it will be ready to ship in approx 1 to 2 weeks! However, the 2nd RX is back ordered. The KRX3 eta is an additional 3 to 4 months out (ouch). So I'm looking at 5 to 6 months to receive the complete initial order. Huge backlog right n

[Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter vs what I REALLY want.

2008-10-30 Thread Ralph Parker
>I'm not sure that I understand the fascination of larger S meters... Nor I. I usually give reports by ear anyway. What I REALLY want is a stand-alone spectrum display (think 756 PRO). That's the main reason I'm keeping the Pro III for 6m. VE7XF ___ E

RE: [Elecraft] [K3] If you are a DXer, you need the KRX3!

2008-10-30 Thread Bruce McLaughlin
Congratulations on getting the VU4. The use stations are not easy from the Midwest either the polar path can be a killer! I am awaiting return of my K-3 from Elecraft after its second receiver is installed along with certain other changes and additions I ordered. I understand what you mean about

RE: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
And very few S-meters worked at all in CW mode since the BFO wasn't isolated from the AGC, so the AGC (and so the S-meter) was Off. Over the years contesters have brought some sanity to the S-number: ignore the meter and send "5NN". The audio output voltage and dB comparison measurement displa

[Elecraft] K2 Transmitter Problems

2008-10-30 Thread Ron McCurdy
Don, I tested the transformers T3 & T4 at their solder pads for continuity and they were all about 0.1 ohms and I checked them through the full set of windings that are connected and got 0.2 ohms. I also checked the number of turns, etc. and found nothing wrong. On the LPF sections I was o

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.58

2008-10-30 Thread Bill Johnson
Dick, I was unable to get the file to download from the site! I tried for two days with timeouts. I then gave up and moved all files to the default folder and tried again. Go figure. I also added the firmware updater to my firewall just to be it wasn't blocking it. I wrote Wayne to ask if t

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.58

2008-10-30 Thread Dick Dievendorff
You should be able to load firmware from any folder in the PC's file system. There's nothing magic about the default folder. The folder needs to have all the files, see the troubleshooting section of Help on "Missing files" for the list. What symptoms did you observe that led you to the "firmw

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread w6jd
I'm not sure that I understand the fascination of larger S meters, I totally ignore mine. But back in the days of my ill spent youth, when radios glowed in the dark, I owned a Hallicrafters SX-96 which had an S meter that must have occupied at least a quarter of the front panel, and went to "80 db

Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 Kit For Sale

2008-10-30 Thread Philip Leonard WVØT
My K3/10 kit is still available if anyone is interested. Philip Philip Leonard WVØT wrote: This is a new in the box K3/10 kit (basic kit, no options). Never unpacked. SN is 1905. Asking my invoice cost plus actual shipping cost to your location. In other words, I'm not looking to make

[Elecraft] ANN: KComm 1.4 released

2008-10-30 Thread Julian, G4ILO
I have just released version 1.4 of KComm, my free GPL logging program developed specifically for Elecraft K2 and K3 transceivers only. Both Windows and Linux versions are available. This version does make use of (and therefore requires) the latest K3 beta firmware. The main additions in this ve

Re: [Elecraft] VFO A follows VFO B

2008-10-30 Thread Ron Lodewyck
That was it. Thanks to all who responded so quickly with the right answer. 73, Ron N6EE Lyle Johnson wrote: After clicking on a packet spot which put the K3 in split mode with VFO B up 1 Khz I now find that pressing Rev and tuning, simultaneously changes BOTH VFOs... Press the SUB button.

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread Julian, G4ILO
David Fleming-2 wrote: > > Hi Greg, > > Well, yes, it could be integrated into PowerSDR, or any other rig control > app where the source code is available. But then it would go from being a > trivial programming task to a major project... for me anyway. :) > > David, W4SMT > > I could fairl

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.58

2008-10-30 Thread Bill Johnson
David, I too had trouble. I moved the files to the default folder and downloader again successfully. Apparently the firmware update process doesn't like placing into other than the default folder. It could have been my error, but once I relocated the files all worked just fine. 73,

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
MacLoggerDx has an S-meter and has for all rigs :-) 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that! -Lewis Carroll, mathematician and writer (1832-1898)

Re: [Elecraft] VFO A follows VFO B

2008-10-30 Thread Lyle Johnson
After clicking on a packet spot which put the K3 in split mode with VFO B up 1 Khz I now find that pressing Rev and tuning, simultaneously changes BOTH VFOs... Press the SUB button. The VFO's are probably LINKed and you need to UNLINK them. The kHz decimal point in the VFOB display will slo

Re: [Elecraft] VFO A follows VFO B

2008-10-30 Thread Barry N1EU
Ron Lodewyck wrote: > > After clicking on a packet spot which put the K3 in split mode with VFO > B up 1 Khz I now find that pressing Rev and tuning, simultaneously > changes BOTH VFOs. If I release the Rev button and tune my VFO A then > VFO B simultaneously changes by the same amount. Mo

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread David Fleming
Hi Greg, Well, yes, it could be integrated into PowerSDR, or any other rig control app where the source code is available. But then it would go from being a trivial programming task to a major project... for me anyway. :) David, W4SMT --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Greg - AB7R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

[Elecraft] VFO A follows VFO B

2008-10-30 Thread Ron Lodewyck
After clicking on a packet spot which put the K3 in split mode with VFO B up 1 Khz I now find that pressing Rev and tuning, simultaneously changes BOTH VFOs. If I release the Rev button and tune my VFO A then VFO B simultaneously changes by the same amount. Move A up 1.1 Khz, then VFO B also

Re: [Elecraft] Re memories M1-M4

2008-10-30 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Yep, I should have tried it - just record again 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- Always remember, half the people in the world are above average intelligence! On 30 Oct 2008, at 16:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have recorded cw messages in each of the 4 memories. How do I clear these memories sh

Re: [Elecraft] Re memories M1-M4

2008-10-30 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
I would guess you just record again and it replaces it? -- I don't mind that you think slowly but I do mind that you are publishing faster than you think. -Wolfgang Pauli, physicist, Nobel laureate (1900-1958) On 30 Oct 2008, at 16:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have recorded cw messages in e

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread Greg - AB7R
David, What about using it through Larry's LP-PAN? That way the serial data could be used for other functions at the same time. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 On Thu Oct 30 10:15 , David Fleming sent: >--- On Thu, 10/30/08, Lee Buller [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread David Fleming
--- On Thu, 10/30/08, Lee Buller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With a little programming ... someone could come up with an > S-Meter that would fill the screen of a computer. This could be easily done. Maybe have the size adjustable.. be able to select digital, bargraph or analog even. :) If th

[Elecraft] Re memories M1-M4

2008-10-30 Thread K7lay
I have recorded cw messages in each of the 4 memories. How do I clear these memories should desire to change the message (s)?? Bob k7lay **Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212416248x1200771803

[Elecraft] NEW k3/100 F/S

2008-10-30 Thread Scott McDowell
F/S New K3/100 with KFL3A-400 and 2.7 filters. KUSB and MH2-R microphone. Will sell for just what I gave for it. $2075 plus $25.00 shipping. Contact me off line at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a

[Elecraft] aclog

2008-10-30 Thread haircutter
Hello Terry, Been playing around with AcLog and the K3. Works perfect for me. Click on the call sign and the rig shifts the the freq. Also tried it on other softwares, Works great on all except MIXW. There it is off freq a little. Don...w2xb ___ Elec

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread Lee Buller
Don, With a little programming ... someone could come up with an S-Meter that would fill the screen of a computer.  I have the same problem and thought about doing that.  Interesting solution you have. Lee - K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't

RE: [Elecraft] K1 #2639 1st QSO

2008-10-30 Thread Brett Howard
Congrats! I just got mine for Xmas last year.. #02474 It's a FUN little radio... I find the tuner in mine to be a treat. Wish you years of fun with it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neal Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:52 AM To: e

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Problem with DX spot point-&-click and ACLog

2008-10-30 Thread ab2tc
You bet I'll keep my fingers on the VFO. For regular tuning up and down the band, in my view there is no substitute for a tuning knob. But point and click is very convenient for cluster spots and fast QSY in general. Jeff Wandling W7BRS wrote: > > > I'll keep my fingers on the VFO. I can't go

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Problem with DX spot point-&-click and ACLog

2008-10-30 Thread Jeff Wandling W7BRS
I'll keep my fingers on the VFO. I can't go HRD path. As far as ACLog.. Ugh. The way for him to solve the problem is to make the source GPL'd. There's a fair number of technical people on this list who would be able to patch his code to make it work. Everyone benefits, including him by be

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Problem with DX spot point-&-click and ACLog

2008-10-30 Thread Greg - AB7R
I've noticed that from Scott one before when I made a similar request. I did what you did.stopped using it and went to another program. I also no longer recommend that program to anyone for that reason. I think that's a mistake on his part not to support the K3. Oh well... Check out

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Problem with DX spot point-&-click and ACLog

2008-10-30 Thread ab2tc
Hi, I highly recommend Ham Radio Deluxe. It supports the K3, Simon - the author - is a K3 owner and supporter. Pointing and clicking on a DX spot or on a frequency dial works great. I use it in conjunction with LP-PAN and LP-Bridge. Pointing and clicking on the panadapter display also works flawl

[Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread Don Rasmussen
For those like me with 50 year old eyes, here are some suggestions for making the K3 S-meter easier to read. Scroll down to the bottom. ;-) http://tinyurl.com/58qg5a ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to

[Elecraft] K3-Problem with DX spot point-&-click and ACLog

2008-10-30 Thread Terry Schieler
FWIW. Well I spoke with Scott, N3FJP regarding the problems I had with the K3 and his ACLog logging program. Although there is a radio selection for Elecraft in his CAT software he says it does not support the K3. I offered to help him (which I've done before) but he said he was afraid if he mad

Re: [Elecraft] New 2.58 firmware - changed audio settings.

2008-10-30 Thread NZ0T
It may be the improved ALC action then. Not a problem for me once adjustments were made. Lyle Johnson wrote: > >> Could Elecraft please indicate whether there are any intended changes to >> the >> transmit audio processing in version 2.58? > > It has been a few months since SSB audio processi

Re: [Elecraft] K2 Transmitter Tests

2008-10-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ron, The reflector strips off any attachments. Put your data in the body of your post. 73, Don W3FPR Ron McCurdy wrote: Attached is a spreadsheet of the results of my transmitter tests @7100hz. I would appreciate any help deciphering where to look for the problem. Ron, KE5QDA K2

Re: [Elecraft] New 2.58 firmware - changed audio settings.

2008-10-30 Thread Lyle Johnson
Could Elecraft please indicate whether there are any intended changes to the transmit audio processing in version 2.58? It has been a few months since SSB audio processing was touched. The RF side has been worked on, however, for improved power control and ALC action. 73, Lyle KK7P

[Elecraft] K2 Transmitter Tests

2008-10-30 Thread Ron McCurdy
Attached is a spreadsheet of the results of my transmitter tests @7100hz. I would appreciate any help deciphering where to look for the problem. Ron, KE5QDA K2 6575 under construction ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You

Re: [Elecraft] New 2.58 firmware - changed audio settings.

2008-10-30 Thread NZ0T
I am sure the changes are real as they noticed it on my first transmission. Conditions were excellent with strong signals. ab2tc wrote: > > Hi, > > No, I had not noticed that. I updated last night and worked several 80m DX > contacts (80m was in fantastic shape last night), but did not solicit

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - KRX3: AF Gain

2008-10-30 Thread Mitch Wolfson DJØQN
Bill, It turned out to be a simple configuration problem as I had suspected. The KRX3 had lost the antenna setting when I disabled and reenabled it to fix the AF gain problem, so I only had to use BSET and tap [ANT] to choose the same ANT again as VFO A. Now all is well! Thanks to everyone

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - KRX3: AF Gain

2008-10-30 Thread Lyle Johnson
Now I notice that my KRX3 sensitivity is much lower than the main receiver, which wasn't the case when I installed it... Check your XFIL gain settings in the SUB vs MAIN... Also, double check the KRX3 antenna selection. When mine went nearly deaf, it was because I managed to unwittingly put

Re: [Elecraft] New 2.58 firmware - changed audio settings.

2008-10-30 Thread ab2tc
Hi, No, I had not noticed that. I updated last night and worked several 80m DX contacts (80m was in fantastic shape last night), but did not solicit nor receive any audio reports. But I had no problems being heard and copied. I also did not notice any difference in the ALC readings nor did I noti

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - KRX3: AF Gain

2008-10-30 Thread Bill W4ZV
Mitch Wolfson DJØQN wrote: > > > Now I notice that my KRX3 sensitivity is much lower than the main > receiver, > which wasn't the case when I installed it. I will try to figure that > problem > out on my own or otherwise contact support. > Check your XFIL gain settings in the SUB vs MAIN.

Re: Re: [Elecraft] Two K3's, Same Band, Same Time?

2008-10-30 Thread d.cutter
Hi Tom Were you using linears as well? David G3UNA > > > I would try it. We had two K3's in use at the Holland (MI !) field > day site, K8DAA on 20 meters. One on phone the other on CW. Sometime we > were within 50-75 kc's , oops, kHz of each other, with no ill effect. > The antennas wer