Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Issue?

2023-05-11 Thread Lee Hiers
Thanks Mike - it was an ID-10T error: I had the RX antenna selected with nothing on the RX antenna port. 73 de Lee, AA4GA On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 9:47 PM Michael Carter wrote: > Hi Lee, > > Do you also have a reduced RX signal level > on 30 meters as well as 20 meters, at least > by compariso

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Issue?

2023-05-11 Thread Michael Carter
Hi Lee, Do you also have a reduced RX signal level on 30 meters as well as 20 meters, at least by comparison with your KX3? Since the TX output is OK, I will hazard a guess that one of the relays in the 20/30M bandpass filter is not making good contact or has developed a weak solder joint on the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Issue?

2023-05-11 Thread Gary K9GS
Glad you got it sorted out Lee73,Gary K9GS Original message From: Lee Hiers Date: 5/11/23 5:21 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Elecraft Mailing List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Issue? I thought about quoting Jack Nicholson from A Few Good Men when he said"well don't I fe

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Issue?

2023-05-11 Thread Lee Hiers
I thought about quoting Jack Nicholson from A Few Good Men when he said "well don't I feel like a" but thought better of it. 100% operator error. As diagnosed by N7GP and W0GHZ, I had my RX antenna button pushed. I don't have an RX antenna, so I never push it...on purpose. I'm glad it wasn'

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX does not always work at power up

2022-11-02 Thread David Hachadorian
Does your K3 have gold pins on the front panel connector?  The old tinned pins were apt to cause a lot of weird/intermittent problems. Glad you were able to fix the D25 issue. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ On 11/2/2022 9:54 AM, George Fremin III wrote: The K3 that went deaf and I replaced

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX does not always work at power up

2022-11-02 Thread David Sumner
George, something like that happened to me a while ago. Reloading the firmware fixed it. 73, Dave K1ZZ Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 2, 2022, at 12:56 PM, George Fremin III wrote: > >  > > The K3 that went deaf and I replaced D25 in - has had another issue > that I have not understood - and

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX dead 80/20 meters

2020-09-30 Thread Jim Kennedy
quot; Cc: "elecraft" Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:49:53 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX dead 80/20 meters RX ANT not activated on 80 and 20? Victor 4X6GP > On 1 Oct 2020, at 6:58, Jim Kennedy wrote: > > Hello all, I need some help ! My K3 s/n 3378 has gone deaf

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX dead 80/20 meters

2020-09-30 Thread Vic Rosenthal
RX ANT not activated on 80 and 20? Victor 4X6GP > On 1 Oct 2020, at 6:58, Jim Kennedy wrote: > > Hello all, I need some help ! My K3 s/n 3378 has gone deaf on 80 and 20 > meters, all other bands are good. It does not have a second receiver > installed. I have confirmed the receive signal on

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX ant without KXV3?

2019-10-04 Thread Keith Trinity WE6R
There are two jumpers on J66 (either wire ones in the socket,,, OR on OLD boards, you cut jumpers on the RF board). See schematic and see the silk screen for jumpers W1 & W2 It is nice to have a receiver there because it bypasses the LPF circuitry, a MUST for Lowfer operation! I jack IN there

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX ant without KXV3?

2019-10-03 Thread Martin Sole
Hi Ilya, This might be possible. Take a look at it he K3 schematics. Before I found a KXV3 I was considering this, certainly the IF out. As I recall on the main board there is a connector with the rf in and out. These are jumpered on the main board when no KXV3is fitted. Then there should be

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX IN/OUT and Splitters

2018-12-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
Frank, You are definitely on the right track. The RX IN/OUT jacks are for the insertion of an external preamplifier or a splitter to tap off the main TX antenna. If using only RX IN, that antenna input will be used when you select RX ANT. Since you are using a separate RX antenna and want t

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Equalizer

2017-12-31 Thread Don Wilhelm
Chris, To set the levels for DATA modes on Elecraft transceivers, see my website www.w3fpr.com. Go to the bottom of the left column and click the link. Yes, the Elecraft transceivers are different than other radios - you must first set the audio level to produce 4 bars with the 5th bar fla

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Equalizer

2017-12-29 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/29/2017 12:52 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: That would suggest that using hi-cut is a better choice than RX EQ for cutting high frequency hiss. The ultimate rejection for hi-cut is greater than the max RX EQ cut, right? The smarter guys writing software for digital modes have finally lear

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Equalizer

2017-12-29 Thread Nr4c
So I’m correct. The EQ is disabled in digital modes. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Dec 29, 2017, at 4:02 PM, Chris Hallinan wrote: > > Hi, Lyle. > > Thanks for helping me understand the K3 even better ;) > > I'm working on building a remote solution using remotehams.com software.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Equalizer

2017-12-29 Thread Chris Hallinan
Hi, Lyle. Thanks for helping me understand the K3 even better ;) I'm working on building a remote solution using remotehams.com software. I hope I can use my SignaLink USB as the TX/RX audio interface to the server. I can hear very nicely on the remote (same room still!), but the transmit audio

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Equalizer

2017-12-29 Thread Walter Underwood
That would suggest that using hi-cut is a better choice than RX EQ for cutting high frequency hiss. The ultimate rejection for hi-cut is greater than the max RX EQ cut, right? Does the KX3 work the same way? I would assume so, but might as well ask. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://o

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Equalizer

2017-12-29 Thread Lyle Johnson
The K3 filter is a little unusual in that the receiver equalizer is part of the DSP bandpass filter, not a different or subsequent filter.  This helps minimize latency. As a result, the equalization is applied before the audio paths are separated, so it is on all receive paths. In data modes

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Equalizer

2017-12-29 Thread Nr4c
Prob the first 3. The 4th is mostly for digital and thus not needed. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Dec 29, 2017, at 11:53 AM, Chris Hallinan wrote: > > I understand that the K3 has two separate equalizer settings for CW and > SSB. I also understand it is not active in the Data modes

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Equalizer

2017-12-29 Thread Lyle Johnson
Yes. 73, Lyle KK7P On 12/29/17 9:53 AM, Chris Hallinan wrote: I understand that the K3 has two separate equalizer settings for CW and SSB. I also understand it is not active in the Data modes. However, there are four sources of audio output: 1) Internal Speaker 2) SPKRS (rear panel) 3) Pho

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX broken :-( ... where to look at first?

2017-10-27 Thread Oliver Dröse
Thanks to Dave's, K6LL, tip on the 3C0L thread, I could identify D25 on the RF board to have gone south. Ordered spares already and thanks to Heiko, DG1BHA who is lending his K3 so I can do the contest at least ... 73, Olli Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de Am 27.10.2017 um

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Ant - first try - nothing

2017-09-06 Thread Mark E. Musick
Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Ant - first try - nothing On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Jim Miller wrote: > I have not tried to use Rx ant previously. > > K3 (sn 1442) Manual Rev D pf 43 - I have KXV3 and KAT3. > > Antenna connected to BNC on KXV3 and Rx ant selected

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Ant - first try - nothing

2017-09-06 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jim, If you connect an antenna to either ANT1 or ANT2 (select the right one), then tap RX ANT the signal should drop drastically. Do that test first. You should see the RX ANT icon in the display. Then with the RX ANT still selected, move the antenna to the jack labeled RX ANT IN (not RX ANT

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Ant - first try - nothing

2017-09-05 Thread Bob Wilson, N6TV
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Jim Miller wrote: > I have not tried to use Rx ant previously. > > K3 (sn 1442) Manual Rev D pf 43 - I have KXV3 and KAT3. > > Antenna connected to BNC on KXV3 and Rx ant selected on main receiver. > > No receive. > Connect the RX antenna to the BNC labeled "RX A

Re: [Elecraft] K3, RX ANT and Band Outputs

2016-09-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
Per-Tore, The band data outputs should follow the band set on VFO A. That should not change with RX ANT in or out. If you have VFO IND set to ON, the band outputs should still reflect the band for VFO A. The other thing that affects the band data output is the menu CONFIG:KIO3 - if set to

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX EQ Settings

2016-02-24 Thread Gary
an.qth.net" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX EQ Settings Doug, This is not a question where there is a 'best' setting for everyone - it all depends. Your RX EQ settings will have to be customized to your ears and the listening devices you typically use (headphones, speakers, etc.).

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX EQ Settings

2016-02-24 Thread Don Wilhelm
Doug, This is not a question where there is a 'best' setting for everyone - it all depends. Your RX EQ settings will have to be customized to your ears and the listening devices you typically use (headphones, speakers, etc.). I just leave mine set flat for both SSB and CW. Make it sound 'nat

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX issue with KAT3A?

2015-11-03 Thread Udo Langenohl - DK5YA
The suspect was pursued, caught, arrested and taken to the garbage with the soldering iron. It was a defective pin diode that caused the loss of 10 dB. Thanks to all who have given me advice. 73 Udo, DK5YA Am 02.11.2015 um 16:18 schrieb Udo Langenohl - DK5YA: Gents, in spring I made an upgra

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX issue with KAT3A?

2015-11-02 Thread ae4pb
#x27;; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 RX issue with KAT3A? Jerry and Udo, You can't save the configuration file from one K3 and then load it into another K3. The configuration file contains the serial number and calibration information specific to the K3 you're saving the configurat

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX issue with KAT3A?

2015-11-02 Thread Mark E. Musick
2015 5:09 PM To: 'Udo Langenohl - DK5YA' ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX issue with KAT3A? Use the K3 utility to save the config from the "Good" K3, then use the same utility to save the config from the "suspect" K3. Finally use the K3 Utility to r

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX issue with KAT3A?

2015-11-02 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Adding the KAT3A gives you the possibility to be listening to a coax jack with no antenna connected. To get started... Make sure that CONFIG: KAT3 is *not* set to "not inst". Be certain of that by hitting the "ANT" and "RXANT" buttons that you are on the coax connector you intend. After that ther

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX issue with KAT3A?

2015-11-02 Thread ae4pb
Use the K3 utility to save the config from the "Good" K3, then use the same utility to save the config from the "suspect" K3. Finally use the K3 Utility to restore the config from the "good" K3 into the "suspect" K3 and retest. If that doesn't fix the issue then I'd start double checking the conn

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX in real world

2015-09-15 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
One thing I notice with better and better RX with less and much less RX generated cr*p, is that TX/amp generated cr*p is presented quite a bit clearer with much less disguise. Once upon a time that was all "band noise" to us. Ain't clarity interesting? What is really cool is to listen to an SSB pi

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX in real world

2015-09-15 Thread Wes (N7WS)
When you turn on the noise blanker, all bets are off. On 9/15/2015 2:50 PM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote: Exactly. Get on during CQWW. I could hear interesting transmitter widths from people half a continent away and interesting effects in my receiver as well (mostly noise blanker effects). I hear

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX in real world

2015-09-15 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015, Jim Brown wrote: On Tue,9/15/2015 1:29 PM, Bill wrote: the technical performance differences between the top rigs can only be discerned in a "copper" room. That is definitely not true. Digging weak ones out in a big contest, or with a close by ham neighbor, will tell yo

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX in real world

2015-09-15 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue,9/15/2015 1:29 PM, Bill wrote: the technical performance differences between the top rigs can only be discerned in a "copper" room. That is definitely not true. Digging weak ones out in a big contest, or with a close by ham neighbor, will tell you right away. An inferior dirty radio a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX in real world

2015-09-15 Thread Bill
Real World - that is all that really counts. All the testing and arguing that has been appearing of late is great, if you are a numbers cruncher and chart maker. But, to my thinking - the technical performance differences between the top rigs can only be discerned in a "copper" room. Real worl

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX in real world

2015-09-15 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue,9/15/2015 11:35 AM, Hank P wrote: I do really wonder what I would notice with KSYN3As on my main /sub rx - I live in a “field of RF noise” even before the big guns. I DO really like both main and sub rx now truly being fed by same LO. It won't help a bit when the other guy(s) are di

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX in real world

2015-09-15 Thread Hank P
I held this for three days deciding whether to send it or not – here ‘tis. I went from TT Orion - 3 of them at various times - to K3 . I was more than a little concerned by size and Hold/Tap functions etc - I read all the stuff from Sherwood ,keep reading stories here about KSYN3A wonders. He

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX audio (was MH2 question)

2015-07-09 Thread Don Wilhelm
We are drifting way off the original post question which was related to the K2 and transmit audio. If the discussion is to morph to the K3 and its receive audio, someone needs to change the subject line. The K3 does have the RX EQ which can change the RX audio substantially. The internal speaker

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Antenna & QSK

2015-02-01 Thread Chester Alderman
t] On Behalf Of Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 9:41 AM To: d...@lightstream.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Antenna & QSK I just tried it at speeds from about 24 to 35 wpm. As you say, not much difference in what you hear and a big red

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Antenna & QSK

2015-02-01 Thread Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO
I just tried it at speeds from about 24 to 35 wpm. As you say, not much difference in what you hear and a big reduction in relay operations. 0.005 extends the useful speed range downward without changing what you hear much. I'll try it in the next pileup and see if I think it matters. I have t

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Antenna & QSK

2015-02-01 Thread d...@lightstream.net
Is there a significant benefit to running full QSK at speeds >= 30 WPM as opposed to just running break-in w/ a delay of 0.04? I use the Pixel loop here on 40 and 30 meters w/ my K3, and doing the latter saves a lot of relay operations. Although you won't hear the band between keying elements, you

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Antenna & QSK

2015-02-01 Thread Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO
I just stuck a piece of folded-up bubble wrap underneath the Pixel control box which made it much quieter! On 1 Feb 2015 13:20, Mike K2MK wrote: Hi Jim, My Pixel loop is about 15 feet away from my BigIR vertical. I run 1500 watts QSK and have not had any problem at all. In fact since the recen

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Antenna & QSK

2015-02-01 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Jim, My Pixel loop is about 15 feet away from my BigIR vertical. I run 1500 watts QSK and have not had any problem at all. In fact since the recent improvements to the K3 QSK it's become a pretty pleasant way of operating. As Vic stated, there is a mechanical relay in the Pixel power box that r

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Antenna & QSK

2015-02-01 Thread Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO
The Pixel can be connected to your amp key circuit. It turns off the power and grounds the antenna on transmit. It works fine with the K3 QSK at 30 wpm (haven't really tried it faster). The relay is a little noisy, but I wear phones and it doesn't bother me. I am using it about 6m from my verti

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Rx antenna

2014-02-02 Thread Bill Frantz
The question, particularly on the lower bands is signal to noise ratio and not absolute receive strength. While connecting a receive antennas to two radios will involve a 3db loss, that loss will be to both the signal and the noise. The signal to noise ratio will be unchanged. Cheers - Bill,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Rx antenna

2014-02-01 Thread Gary Smith
Hi there Paul, Mike K2MK mentioned that & Joe, W4TV along the same line. I made up the pieces today and did as was suggested. Indeed this is exactly what I wanted to do with the K3 & the directional Rx antenna, mission accomplished. Now I can null out offending stations sometimes to the point

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Rx antenna

2014-02-01 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Gary, If you want to hear the same antenna in both ears, connect it to the RX IN jack and press RX ANT on the Main RX. Yes, you will see a 3 dB "loss" due to the splitting on both receivers but that's unavoidable *anytime* you feed a single antenna to both receivers. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Rx antenna

2014-02-01 Thread Gary Smith
Hi Mike, What you're suggesting sounds like a good idea. I don't often use diversity because of the dB loss and the stations I am usually trying to work are the faintest ones out there. instead, I use the two receivers linked on the same frequency, that gives me the best sensitivity and I just

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Rx antenna

2014-02-01 Thread Gary Smith
ginal Message - > From: "Gary Smith" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 7:03 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Rx antenna > > > > Hello Brian, > > > > I was hoping there would be a way to do this selectively within the > > confines of th

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Rx antenna

2014-02-01 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Gary, You didn't indicate if you are running split or diversity. Here's a solution if you are in diversity. There are times that you would like the RX ANT to be steered to both your MAIN RX and SUB RX. I do that with a splitter on my RX antenna cable. One leg goes to the AUX RF BNC socket for

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Rx antenna

2014-01-31 Thread Gary Smith
Hello Brian, I was hoping there would be a way to do this selectively within the confines of the K3 and not use something external. I found in the last 160M contest that there were many DX I could hear on the Rx antenna as it is "steerable" while the Inv-L picks up sounds equally from all dire

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Rx antenna

2014-01-31 Thread Brian Moran
I have all of my receive antennas switchable into the sub RX or the rx input (a six by two matrix in my case) K9ay makes a box that can do this or you can build your own. K9ay has a preamp in his box so that there is no loss of level when both inputs are on the same antenna. The RX ant switch wi

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Audio/AGC

2014-01-24 Thread Bill W2BLC
This debate comes up way too often - so I rather think there is an inherent problem with the perceived comfort of the receive audio. First, I am a long-time Kenwood user and am very used to armchair copy - as most of my hamming is rag chew on 75 and 40 meters. To that end, I have spent too mu

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Audio/AGC

2014-01-23 Thread mikerodgerske5gbc
Joe, Thanks. I should double check AF Lim. I've always set at 30. EQ mostly flat with band 8 -16. I may experiment with -3 or -6 on some EQ bands. 73 Mike R RIP- Mr 500. STP's Andy Granatelli from racing fans everywhere. On Jan 23, 2014, at 11:04 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" wrote: > > Mike,

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Audio/AGC

2014-01-23 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Mike, Do you have CONFIG:AF LIM reduced from NOR 030 and MENU:RX EQ set to boost high frequencies? 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 1/23/2014 11:33 PM, mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com wrote: Let me add, I don't mind reducing rf gain more one on one BUT its aggravating after a while in a group to turn i

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Audio/AGC

2014-01-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mike, The high pitched voices should have no connection with AGC. I would suggest that those signals are off frequency. Using the RX EQ might help, or reducing the HiCut may be the answer to make your RX more comfortable. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/23/2014 11:33 PM, mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com wr

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Audio/AGC

2014-01-23 Thread mikerodgerske5gbc
Let me add, I don't mind reducing rf gain more one on one BUT its aggravating after a while in a group to turn it up and down for one or two guys with high pitch voices. Seems AGC should do that? Once again, it's like the high pitch voice is activating th AF limiter or a similar sound. AGC fa

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Audio/AGC

2014-01-23 Thread Fred Jensen
Adding on Don's post, my experience is to go slow, make one change and try it out in real situations. I was about to give up on the RX Eq, and got that advice from K9YC. I did finally zero it in where I want it. With a radio that has as many configurable parameters as the K3, some of which in

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Audio/AGC

2014-01-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mike, An added note - when experimenting with the AGC settings, do take heed of the information on how to evaluate the results of your changes - listen between pauses in the signal rather than listening to the noise on the band. Listening to the noise level without an intermittent signal wil

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Audio/AGC

2014-01-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mike, I don't know if it will help in your situation, but take a look at my webpage www.w3fpr.com article on "Noisy K3" for some guidance to setting the AGC parameters. Yes, changing the slope may be helpful, but you will have to experiment a bit. Turning the preamp off and perhaps the atte

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Audio Roll-off below 400 Hz

2013-09-07 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
> Is this roll-off similar to what other folks are seeing? That is slightly less roll off than I see with either the FM (13 KHz) or 2.8 KHz filters in the data modes. It is in line with the 200 Hz cut off for data modes. In LSB/USB the low cut is less steep. In SSB it looks to be about 10 dB

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Audio

2013-07-27 Thread Trevor Dunne
Thank you all that replied to me direct and via the mailing list, There is too many to reply to,   There was a good balance between positive and negative, But I think I can be happy to proceed with getting a K3 and not worry about this issue.   Thanks again Trevor EI2GLB From: Trevor Dunne To

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Audio

2013-07-21 Thread Gary Gregory
H...that would be a huge improvement for all I reckon. I have always had to be careful when switching from speaker to headphones. Didn't always turn out too good though. Gary On 22 July 2013 16:04, Carl Clawson wrote: > Yes, please! Irritating when I've been on speaker and then put on > he

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Audio

2013-07-21 Thread Carl Clawson
Yes, please! Irritating when I've been on speaker and then put on headphones and blast myself with my own sidetone. A fixed L-R balance adjustment somewhere in a menu would be great too, for guys like me who have one weak ear. Can't find a headset that I like that also has individual volume contro

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX AUDIO

2013-07-21 Thread Al Lorona
That could be what it is. The "hissy" sound that some folks are hearing is probably simply a passband that's unusually flat. Those interested should familiarize themselves with the plots on Barry N1EU's page: http://n1eu.com/K3/K3_notes.htm .   So, I am not sure why, if at say, 2.8 kHz you find

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX AUDIO

2013-07-21 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
> The audio LPF that was added to the DSP board has a cutoff frequency > somewhere near 3.4 kHz if I recall. The cutoff is 4.2 KHz - the same as the high limit of the DSP. The K3 does have a very flat passband with steep skirts out to the hi-cut value. I am guessing that the flat passband is w

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX AUDIO

2013-07-21 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mike, If that 'hiss' is reduced when the bandwidth is reduced, then it is atmospheric noise that you are hearing, not any internally generated noise. The audio LPF that was added to the DSP board has a cutoff frequency somewhere near 3.4 kHz if I recall. There is little falloff at frequenci

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX AUDIO

2013-07-21 Thread mikerodgerske5gbc
I think the audio voice quality has been remedied long ago. What lingers is the high end hiss that I and a few others hear. Apparently this only bothers a minority. On my 5047 it occurs with hi cut of about 2500 and gets worse to 3000. If you run bandwidth 2.1 or below you will never hear it. 2

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Audio

2013-07-20 Thread Gary Gregory
Trevor, With the 8 band EQ settings I think most operators either forget or are unfamiliar with how much the received (perceived?) audio can be tailored to the individuals hearing. Sure you can use stereo headsets (which I do) and or use the internal speaker provided. Again, audio is really depen

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Audio

2013-07-19 Thread Ralph Parker
>...I found the K3 was sadly lacking in good receive audio. Too much hiss and >too tinny sounding... "tiring" to listen to for long periods of time. My sediments exactly, when I first got my K3 (#1823). I'm an ex-audio pro too. However, after the audio board upgrade, and the 'newer' software (4.51

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Audio

2013-07-19 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
While the internal speaker is certainly adequate for most listening, you want headphones or a pair of external speakers to enjoy all of the possibilities when using AFX or the subreceiver. And there is no doubt the pair of inexpensive "bookshelf" speakers I have produce better audio than the intern

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Audio

2013-07-19 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/19/2013 8:45 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: No, it is not still a problem. I'm a retired audio professional, and I've always been happy with the K3's audio. I have always used headphones for serious operating, and have outboard speakers for "armchair" monitoring. The only issues I have had w

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Audio

2013-07-19 Thread Wayne Burdick
Trevor Dunne wrote: > I am allmost ready to order my K3 but I keep reading about people that are > unhappy with the RX audio, > > Is this still a problem …. Hi Trevor, No, it is not still a problem. When the K3 first shipped, it had a few issues affecting audio that have all since been corr

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Audio

2013-07-19 Thread Grant Youngman
Maybe I'm just deaf to the hiss everyone complains about, but I have to say my impression of K3 receive audio is considerably different. I do have the modified board, etc. And I haven't used the internal speaker since the first day I finished the radio. I do use a pair of RCA 40-5035 speakers

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Audio

2013-07-19 Thread Ted Bryant
Ok, I see it on your website. 73, Ted W4NZ -Original Message- From: Ted Bryant [mailto:w...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:02 AM To: 'elecraft@mailman.qth.net' Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 RX Audio Bill, Are you using headphones or a speaker? And can you pleas

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Audio

2013-07-19 Thread Ted Bryant
: [Elecraft] K3 RX Audio I am mostly a rag chewer and enjoy "armchair copy" audio. To that end, I found the K3 was sadly lacking in good receive audio. Too much hiss and too tinny sounding. In a word, "tiring" to listen to for long periods of time. I thought about giving up

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Audio

2013-07-19 Thread Bill
I am mostly a rag chewer and enjoy "armchair copy" audio. To that end, I found the K3 was sadly lacking in good receive audio. Too much hiss and too tinny sounding. In a word, "tiring" to listen to for long periods of time. I thought about giving up and going back to my trusty TS480 with its

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Audio

2013-07-19 Thread Stephen Prior
Trevor My #930 has always sounded nice to me with a pair of high end sennheiser headphones with far less background hiss than either the ts480 or IC7000 which preceded it. I did the dsp board swap a couple of years ago and that made it even more pleasant to listen to. In my opinion, even for it

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX Audio

2013-07-19 Thread Ian Kahn
Trevor, I purchased a used K3 (s/n 281) a bit over two years ago and have never had a complaint about receive audio. I love this rig and will, in all likelihood, never buy another rig again. Good luck with your purchase decision. 73, --Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua km4ik@gmail.co

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Gain Calibration

2013-03-20 Thread Edward R Cole
This discussion prompts me to make the comparisons on my K3 (4340) and KX3 (475). I have an XG3 which I have installed in a diecast aluminum box (Hammond Box) so it is able to produce signals down to -155 dBm using external attenuators and double-shielded coax cables. I calibrate the XG3 at 0

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Gain Calibration

2013-03-20 Thread Wes Stewart
If he was DX, I'll bet he was 59. --- On Wed, 3/20/13, Fred Smith wrote: Amen! I have worked stations SSB that never move the S-Meter at all. 73, Fred/N0AZZ K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100 P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2 Exactly Gary Vk1ZZ K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3. O

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Gain Calibration

2013-03-20 Thread Fred Smith
Gary Gregory Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:45 PM To: Ron D'Eau Claire Cc: Elecraft List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Gain Calibration Exactly Gary Vk1ZZ K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3. On 20/03/2013 11:59 AM, "Ron D'Eau Claire" wrote: > Sometimes I truly believe t

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Gain Calibration

2013-03-19 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Sometimes I truly believe that one of the worst plagues imposed on the Hams of the world was the S-Meter. In short, it means little about whether you can hear a signal or how easily it can be copied. True signal reports are given by what you hear, not what the meter says. 73 Ron AC7AC _

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Gain Calibration

2013-03-19 Thread Don Wilhelm
Travis, The S-meter should not indicate anything with the antenna disconnected. You should be searching for the reason the AGC is being activated on receiver noise - or it could be S-meter calibration. The XG3 can allow you to properly calibrate the S-meter - the Utility program will guide y

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Gain Calibration

2013-03-19 Thread Travis Brown
Hi Don, I agree 100%! The S-Meter isn't as big of a concern to me as the fact that the noise floor seems to be so much more prevalent on the K3 than the KX3. I do understand that the more sensitive receiver will dip deeper into the noise floor and you will hear more of it. If I always have

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Gain Calibration

2013-03-19 Thread Don Wilhelm
Travis, The real measure of any receiver in the ability to hear weak signals is not in the S-meter deflection. Within limits both the K3 and KX3 S-meters can be calibrated to read most anything you want to see. The measurement of actual sensitivity is in the MDS measurement. That indicates ho

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Gain Calibration

2013-03-19 Thread Travis Brown
Thanks Stan. I ordered a XG3 yesterday and I hope to have it here this week. I wasn't expecting such a huge discrepancy between the KX3 and K3, and it really surprised me. If I figure out the secret sauce, I'll definitely let you know. I am curious, with did you put the KX3 and K3 on the XG3 an

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Gain Calibration

2013-03-19 Thread Stan AE7UT
Travis I was in your same situation and understand what your experiencing. I got my KX3 first and was blown away by how quiet and sensitive it was. The KX3 was so impressive I sold my entire Ten-Ten station and built a K3. I was disappointed that the K3 receiver didn't seem to be as "good" as the

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Gain Calibration

2013-03-18 Thread Mike Rodgers
Travis, that's interesting that the KX3 was quiet. Sometimes I think the k3 is just too sensitive. I don't know if that's it or not. I've certainly wondered. Please share if you find the secret sauce. 73 Mike R Play me some fiddle, but no stinkin' violin! Amateur/Ham Radio KE5GBC HF & Echoli

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Gain Calibration

2013-03-18 Thread Don Wilhelm
Travis, The KX3 is a direct to baseband receiver with the DSP being done at baseband (or if RX shift is on at 8 kHz.) while the K3 downconverts to the 8 MHz IF before digitizing and sending the data to the DSP. So the two receiver architectures are different. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/18/2013 9:25

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Gain Calibration

2013-03-18 Thread Travis Brown
Thanks Don. I will definitely tweak the AGC settings. Someone else recommended that too. However, I thought the KX3 and K3 had basically the same receiver, and if I hook the KX3 up to the same antenna that to which my K3 was connected, the S-meter should report the same values regardless of the AG

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Gain Calibration

2013-03-18 Thread Don Wilhelm
Travis, I doubt the RX gain calibration will make that much difference, but rather I suggest that some alteration of the AGC parameters will make the most difference for you. Take a look at the "Noisy K3" article on my website www.w3fpr.com for some guidance in adjusting your settings. Tha

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Attenuator value, and COR activation level.

2012-06-13 Thread g0afh
Thanks for the link. I recall seeing the wire when I checked to see if the IF out level mod had been done. 73 Ian On 13/06/2012 10:16, Brett Howard wrote: > If you want to check and be absolutely certain check this document out: > http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/K3%20rx%20protection%20mod,%20rev

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RX Attenuator value, and COR activation level.

2012-06-13 Thread Brett Howard
the ATTN is 10dB. Not sure where the CORs activate however. I do know that I've hit them before though.. :) Not sure if this helps you but I do also know that you can get to +20dBm and as long as you have the extreme signal protection mod done to your radio (or it was built after 9/1/2009) before

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RX audio degradation with ANF

2012-05-20 Thread Lu Romero
te: Sat, 19 May 2012 16:50:24 -0500 From: W4ATK Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RX audio degradation with ANF To: Bill Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: <74bdcaf3-fca6-44df-a0e5-21728e101...@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I think we may be comparing apples to o

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RX audio degradation with ANF

2012-05-19 Thread W4ATK
I think we may be comparing apples to oranges here. In the K3 digital ANF, the notch filter is looking for coherent signals. The premise is that audio is less coherent than a CW carrier. Thus the ANF "finds" the coherent CW carrier and notches it out, leaving the remaining audio. On May 19,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RX audio degradation with ANF

2012-05-19 Thread Bill
You said, "They have gotten so good lately that it is barely preceptible, but its there, you can see it on a spectrum analyser. (Google Sabine Adaptive Audio to see a representative device, their older devices sound quite similar to what you hear in the K3 ANF; the newer ones are truly magical!

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RX audio degradation with ANF

2012-05-19 Thread Lu Romero
e- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tim Tucker Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 10:57 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RX audio degradation with ANF ANF is the common use abbreviation for Auto Notch Filter. A lot of rigs us

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RX audio degradation with ANF

2012-05-18 Thread Bill K9YEQ
I also have a P3. I think the Notch is working very well as currently designed. 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tim Tucker Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 10:57 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject

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