[PSES] Seeking semi-rigid N cables for a HP/Agilent/Keysight 8546A EMI receiver

2024-01-11 Thread Sykes, Bob
I am trying to locate replacement semi-rigid cables cables for my old HP 8546A EMI Receiver. The HP/Agilent/Keysight part number is 85460-20036 but are no longer available from any source that I can find. These are the (3) cables with type N connectors joining the EMI receiver (top box) to

[PSES] Rohde & Schwarz EMI receiver repairs

2019-04-29 Thread Bill Stumpf
We've been told by Rohde & Schwarz that our ESIB receivers are obsolete and they can't perform repairs on them anymore because of parts unavailability. Does anyone know of a company that will repair these? Thank you in advance, Bill Stumpf, Lab/Technical Manager D.L.S. Electronic Systems, Inc

Re: [PSES] HP 8546A EMI Receiver - Looking for calibration facility

2018-10-23 Thread Kunde, Brian
. Brian Kunde Manager * Compliance Engineering LECO Corp * Compliance Testing Center From: Bill Stumpf [mailto:bstu...@dlsemc.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 11:39 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] HP 8546A EMI Receiver - Looking for calibration facility Bob, You might try

Re: [PSES] HP 8546A EMI Receiver - Looking for calibration facility

2018-10-23 Thread Manny Barron
they’re local (California) and ISO 17025 accredited.  Manny Barron Tuesday, October 23, 2018, 8:20 AM -0700 from bob.sy...@gilbarco.com < bob.sy...@gilbarco.com >: >Worldly Experts, >  >I just learned that Keysight has unceremoniously dropped calibration and >repair support

Re: [PSES] HP 8546A EMI Receiver - Looking for calibration facility

2018-10-23 Thread Wiseman, Joshua
We use Hayes for ours. Regards, Josh From: Sykes, Bob [mailto:bob.sy...@gilbarco.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 11:21 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] HP 8546A EMI Receiver - Looking for calibration facility EXTERNAL SENDER: Verify links, attachments and sender before

Re: [PSES] HP 8546A EMI Receiver - Looking for calibration facility

2018-10-23 Thread Bill Stumpf
Bob, You might try Trescal Bill From: Sykes, Bob [mailto:bob.sy...@gilbarco.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 10:21 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] HP 8546A EMI Receiver - Looking for calibration facility Worldly Experts, I just learned that Keysight has unceremoniously

Re: [PSES] HP 8546A EMI Receiver - Looking for calibration facility

2018-10-23 Thread Wiseman, Joshua
We don't have the same model though. So, hopefully they can help you. Josh From: Wiseman, Joshua Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 11:37 AM To: 'Sykes, Bob'; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: HP 8546A EMI Receiver - Looking for calibration facility We use Hayes for ours.

[PSES] HP 8546A EMI Receiver - Looking for calibration facility

2018-10-23 Thread Sykes, Bob
Worldly Experts, I just learned that Keysight has unceremoniously dropped calibration and repair support for the 8546A EMI receiver. It's an old beast, but we like it and use it a lot. Does anyone still use one of these and know of a facility (preferably U.S.) that can calibrate

[PSES] EMI Receiver Calibration

2014-07-29 Thread Pawson, James
eivers or, even better, these specific R+S receivers? I have an inquiry in with our local R+S office on the last point also. 2) What would you consider to be a standard calibration for an EMI receiver? Many thanks, James Pawson Leading EMC Engineer Echost

Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver

2012-01-03 Thread Ralph . McDiarmid
AM Subject: Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver Because EUT may contain inductors and switches that generate spike when intentional or unintentional switching or switching ON/OFF during the test. Invariably the day comes that a BIG transient blows BIG money without such a protector. Gert

Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver

2012-01-03 Thread Kunde, Brian
t coax from the receiver whenever we were not testing. The Other Brian From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Ken Javor Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 1:03 PM To: Untitled Subject: Re: Protect An EMI Receiver Gert provided an excellent post, but I am puzzled by the need

Re: [PSES] [***] Re: Protect An EMI Receiver

2011-12-28 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Wed, 28 Dec 2011, Grace Lin writes: Depending on design, some dimmers incorporate a mechanical relay to satisfy UL 1472 air gap requirement.  The relay does create huge click noise.  By the way, a mechanical relay is an incidental radiator per FCC. Ah, in Europe we do no

Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver

2011-12-28 Thread Grace Lin
Dear John, Thank you very much for your comments. Yes, I agree it doesn't necessarily imply damage (we didn't pay for repair this time). I believe it does imply some potential problems (out of spec). Several months before the annual calibration, SELFTEST results failed. We couldn't figure out

Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver

2011-12-28 Thread Bob Richards
of using as much attenuation in front of the analyzer as possible. There is no point in having a noise floor that is more than 20dB (or even 10dB) below the average limit, IMHO.   Bob R. --- On Tue, 12/27/11, Derek Walton wrote: From: Derek Walton Subject: Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver

Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver

2011-12-27 Thread Ken Javor
Not entirely correct. The 1 kOhm bleeder working against the 0.25 uF blocking cap yields a 10:1 voltage divider, open-circuit. Still too much for an EMI receiver absent adequate attenuation and/or filtering. At 400 cycles (per one post, not the original concern) the problem is greatly

Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver

2011-12-27 Thread Ken Javor
Back in the early 1990s, Tegam supplied a LISN that had a switch which could be depressed while connecting the EMI receiver to the LISN EMI port. Without that switch, the open-circuit potential at the EMI port is the line potential. When the switch is depressed, it shorts out the bleed resistor

Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver

2011-12-27 Thread Derek Walton
ISN. Doug Powell Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry *From: * Ken Javor *Date: *Tue, 27 Dec 2011 13:40:13 -0600 *To: * *ReplyTo: * Ken Javor *Subject: *Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver Clearly, under the conditions of h

Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver

2011-12-27 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Tue, 27 Dec 2011, Grace Lin writes: Hi, Grace. I need your advice to prevent R&S ESU receiver from damage.  A service report (as a result of annual calibration) indicates "frequency response out of specification below 10MHz.  Adjusted frequency response.  Adjusted the re

Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver

2011-12-27 Thread Doug Powell
The CISPR 16, 5 uH LISN. Doug Powell Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Ken Javor Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 13:40:13 To: Reply-To: Ken Javor Subject: Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver Clearly, under the conditions of hundreds of Amperes (what

Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver

2011-12-27 Thread Ken Javor
Richmond Reply-To: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 13:44:56 -0500 To: Cc: Ken Javor Subject: Re: Protect An EMI Receiver Yes, an excellent post. There is a problem sometimes when using a LISN for 400 Hz power. I remember a manager at a former employer who didn't want to add a high pass filter be

Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver

2011-12-27 Thread Ken Javor
-To: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 18:27:43 + To: Ken Javor , Subject: Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver Ken,Having worked power electronics for years, I have on occasion seen conducted emissions far exceed 107 dBuV. Of course I have routinely measured emissions on mains of up to 100 amps and more

Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver

2011-12-27 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
...@ieee.org] Namens Ken Javor Verzonden: dinsdag 27 december 2011 19:03 Aan: Untitled Onderwerp: Re: Protect An EMI Receiver Gert provided an excellent post, but I am puzzled by the need for all this protection. Granted I work in a screen room with either dedicated power or filtered power, but here

Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver

2011-12-27 Thread Ken Javor
kHz. Why is there even a problem? Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: "ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen" Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 18:26:50 +0100 To: Conversation: Protect An EMI Receiver Subject: RE: Protect An EMI Receiver Happy new year to all, and hope you h

Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver

2011-12-27 Thread Ken Wyatt
ranted. Also some of these products use AC large contractors and >> operating these devices while under load can cause huge inductive spikes on >> the LISN. >> >> - Doug Powell >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> From: Ken Javor >> D

Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver

2011-12-27 Thread Cortland Richmond
Yes, an excellent post. There is a problem sometimes when using a LISN for 400 Hz power. I remember a manager at a former employer who didn't want to add a high pass filter between his LISN and receiver when the limit was too low for an attenuator. He ended up buying a new a receiver attenu

Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver

2011-12-27 Thread Ken Wyatt
cause huge inductive spikes on the LISN. > > - Doug Powell > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > From: Ken Javor > Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 12:03:23 -0600 > To: > ReplyTo: Ken Javor > Subject: Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver > > Gert provided an exc

Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver

2011-12-27 Thread Doug Powell
below 150 kHz. Why is there even a problem? Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: "ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen" Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 18:26:50 +0100 To: Conversation: Protect An EMI Receiver Subject: RE: Protect An EMI Receiver Happy new year to all, and hope

Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver

2011-12-27 Thread Doug Powell
ces the interference level. 0 Hz - 30 MHz Doug Powell Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: doug...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 16:47:18 To: Grace Lin; Reply-To: doug...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver Grace, It is possible to overload the

Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver

2011-12-27 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
ng bv Owner LinkedIn EMC experts group Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Grace Lin Verzonden: dinsdag 27 december 2011 17:01 Aan: emc-p...@ieee.org Onderwerp: Protect An EMI Receiver Dear Members, Happy New Year!!! I need your advice to prevent R&S ESU rece

Re: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver

2011-12-27 Thread Doug Powell
n Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Grace Lin Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 11:00:48 To: Reply-To: Grace Lin Subject: [PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver Dear Members, Happy New Year!!! I need your advice to prevent R&S ESU receiver from damage. A service report (as a re

[PSES] Protect An EMI Receiver

2011-12-27 Thread Grace Lin
Dear Members, Happy New Year!!! I need your advice to prevent R&S ESU receiver from damage. A service report (as a result of annual calibration) indicates "frequency response out of specification below 10MHz. Adjusted frequency response. Adjusted the reference oscillator to optimize frequency

RE: [PSES] EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-09-23 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hi all, Thanks for all the responses, there were some valuable insights. I've now got a couple of candidates to put forward as a replacement option. Regards, James > We are budgeting for a replacement for our ageing R&S ESVS10 EMI > r

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Good point Wendy, I always control my Equipment from Compliance 5, so I have never used the SW that comes with it. Cheers, Derek.; -Original Message- From: WNya To: Pawson, James Cc: EMC-PSTC Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 6:56 pm Subject: Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations? James, Do

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
My understanding is that this is whats done... -Original Message- From: Ken Javor To: EMC-PSTC Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 3:03 pm Subject: Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations? I had forgotten about that fact. In what I wrote, the assumption was that an IF was being fed back to the rest

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
To: <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EMI Receiver - Recommendations? Hello, We are budgeting for a replacement for our ageing R&S ESVS10 EMI receiver. Apart from R&S I'v

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message <8ce362b4daae905-16b4-13...@webmail-d105.sysops.aol.com>, dated Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Derek Walton writes: >A cable is only its characteristic impedance when fed and terminated in >matching impedance. That's why I said non-perfect impedance of the >cable The characteristic impedance IS

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
0 > To: > Subject: Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations? > > In message , dated Wed, 31 > Aug 2011, Ken Javor writes: > >> Then the rest of the connection all the way back to the receiver should >> be well-matched 50 Ohm sections. >> > I believe the product in q

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
etween the antenna and Zo of the cable. What am I missing? Cheers, Derek. -Original Message- From: Ken Javor To: EMC-PSTC Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 12:15 pm Subject: Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations? Expansion on this: “Less issues matching a complex source impedance like and antenna

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message , dated Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Ken Javor writes: >Then the rest of the connection all the way back to the receiver should >be well-matched 50 Ohm sections. > I believe the product in question has a fibre-optic link. I wonder what the impedance of that is. (Half serious.) -- OOO - Own Op

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
gt; From: John Woodgate > Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:51:32 +0100 > To: > Subject: Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations? > > In message , dated Wed, 31 > Aug 2011, Ken Javor writes: > >> Cable is usually 50 Ohms. > > Well, people do sometimes tread on it or even stand

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message , dated Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Ken Javor writes: >Cable is usually 50 Ohms. Well, people do sometimes tread on it or even stand heavy equipment on it, but in general I agree that, if treated with care, good quality cable has an impedance more stable and better-behaved than many antennas

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:56:39 -0400 (EDT) To: , Subject: Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations? All good points. you could add that the antenna would better represent free space. I wonder what the effect of Cal factors would be? Less issues matching a complex source

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
dielectric. I'm sure there are more. Cheers, Derek. -Original Message- From: John Woodgate To: EMC-PSTC Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 11:10 am Subject: Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations? In message <40be5b4eca254ad7bae8a4d5ef896...@tamuracorp.com>, dated Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Bri

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message <40be5b4eca254ad7bae8a4d5ef896...@tamuracorp.com>, dated Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Brian Oconnell writes: >Why is it good that the 'RF head' is separate and/or can be attached to >the antenna? No cable loss? -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk John Wood

RE: [PSES] EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
: [PSES] EMI Receiver - Recommendations? Why is it good that the 'RF head' is separate and/or can be attached to the antenna? Brian the EMC amateur - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Societ

RE: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations? Just a quick note about the Teseq Receiver. I think you really mean the PMM marketed by Teseq. This really is a super little receiver. It's CISPR compliant, but it also does neat tricks like has a click option, and also

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-30 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
10 cents worth. Derek Walton L F Research -Original Message- From: Ken Javor To: EMC-PSTC Sent: Tue, Aug 30, 2011 10:25 am Subject: Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations? No experience with it, but wondering if anyone else out there has used the Amplifier Research CER2018A. This is a re

Re: [PSES] EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-30 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
rform calibration and perform the occasional repair. Pat Lawler EMC Engineer SL Power Electronics Corp. "Pawson, James" wrote on 08/30/2011 03:12:14 AM: > We are budgeting for a replacement for our ageing R&S ESVS10 EMI > receiver. Apart from R&S I've found Agilen

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-30 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
From: "Pawson, James" List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:12:14 +0100 To: "EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG" Conversation: EMI Receiver - Recommendations? Subject: EMI Receiver - Recommendations? Hello, We are budgeting for a

RE: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-30 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I should add that the main standard we test to is EN 55022. Thanks James From: Pawson, James [mailto:james.paw...@echostar.com] Sent: 30 August 2011 11:12 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EMI Receiver - Recommendations? Hello, We are

EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-30 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hello, We are budgeting for a replacement for our ageing R&S ESVS10 EMI receiver. Apart from R&S I've found Agilent and Teseq that make EMI receivers. Does anyone have any thoughts on which EMI receiver manufacturer they prefer and why? I'm thinking about things like su

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-05 Thread Cortland Richmond
not those of my employer > [Original Message] > From: Gert Gremmen > To: > Cc: > Date: 12/5/2008 2:59:15 AM > Subject: RE: EMI Receiver > > OK, but do you think the overload feature is less > reliable implemented than the actual read-out of a peak value? > Did the m

Re: EMI Receiver

2008-12-05 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Gert Gremmen writes: >OK, but do you think the overload feature is less reliable implemented >than the actual read-out of a peak value? Did the manufacturer do a >lousy job ? We use an instrument to rely on its features, so do we on >the overload feature

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-05 Thread Gert Gremmen
land Richmond [mailto:k...@earthlink.net] Verzonden: Friday, December 05, 2008 2:48 AM Aan: Gert Gremmen; Ralph McDiarmid CC: emc-p...@ieee.org Onderwerp: RE: EMI Receiver I believe that relying on a receiver to warn it is in overload is a mistake. It is important that those performing measurem

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-04 Thread Cortland Richmond
Cc: > Date: 12/4/2008 1:52:19 PM > Subject: RE: EMI Receiver > > I think this is more a theoretic exercise, > and as true as unlikely to fool you. > > Any decent receiver in overload > does not show a measurement value > but blinks, reports an error condition (IEEE-bus) &

Re: EMI Receiver

2008-12-04 Thread John Woodgate
In message <000b01c9564c$22d7c8c0$68875a40$@com>, dated Thu, 4 Dec 2008, dward writes: >always use his/her own noodle to judge any measurement made How revolutionary!(;-) Seriously, it's one of those crucial things that distinguishes professionals from others. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Tr

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-04 Thread dward
-6888 direct - 703-880-4841 From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Clif Brick Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:14 AM To: Gert Gremmen; Ralph McDiarmid Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: EMI Receiver I guess the crux of your argument lies in the definition of &q

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-04 Thread Bob Richards
Subject: RE: EMI Receiver I think this is more a theoretic exercise, and as true as unlikely to fool you. Any decent receiver in overload does not show a measurement value but blinks, reports an error condition (IEEE-bus) or has a bright red

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-04 Thread Clif Brick
that large ambient signal could readily make an erroneous conclusion. Now of course if it's all carried out in a chamber. From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Gert Gremmen Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:50 PM To: Ralph McDiarmid Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subj

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-04 Thread Gert Gremmen
2008 17:57 Aan: emc-p...@ieee.org Onderwerp: RE: EMI Receiver That's my understanding too. Ralph McDiarmid, AScT Compliance Engineering Group Xantrex Technology Inc From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Clif Brick Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 8:50 AM To:

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-04 Thread Bob Richards
Brick wrote: > From: Clif Brick > Subject: RE: EMI Receiver > To: "Gert Gremmen" , emc-p...@ieee.org > Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 2:49 PM > I could be wrong as it's been a few years, but it seems > to me that a > spectrum analyzer receiver in overload will

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-04 Thread Ralph McDiarmid
That's my understanding too. Ralph McDiarmid, AScT Compliance Engineering Group Xantrex Technology Inc From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Clif Brick Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 8:50 AM To: Gert Gremmen; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: EMI Receiver I

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-04 Thread Clif Brick
tion helps Best regards, Clif From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Gert Gremmen Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:27 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: EMI Receiver >From "EUT cost to compliance" point of view I fully agree with this discussion about

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-03 Thread Gert Gremmen
ay, December 03, 2008 4:10 AM Aan: emc-p...@ieee.org Onderwerp: RE: EMI Receiver --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Jim Eichner wrote: >Amazing the spectrum you get when a really large 50kHz switching >fundamental slams into the transient limiter. I remember reading a long time ago that when a transien

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-02 Thread Bob Richards
--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Jim Eichner wrote: >Amazing the spectrum you get when a really large 50kHz switching >fundamental >slams into the transient limiter. I remember reading a long time ago that when a transient limiter starts to clamp, it becomes a comb generator. I ran into that recently when

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-02 Thread John McAuley
Sent: 02 December 2008 19:12 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: EMI Receiver As we often test immature prototypes with high emissions, I am quite concerned about out-of-band emissions-related effects, and consider a "real" preselector to be a mandatory part of any system we switch ove

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-02 Thread Jim Eichner
hn McAuley [mailto:john.mcau...@cei.ie] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:46 AM To: Jim Eichner; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: EMI Receiver I notice Rohde and Schwarz have a new "low cost" ESL receiver. Unlike previous "pre compliance" receivers it appears to be compliant to CIS

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-02 Thread John McAuley
the measurement. By careful use of input attenuation and observing the results, a traditional skill used by users of spectrum analysers may help? BR John McAuley From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Jim Eichner Sent: 02 December 2008 08:03 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subje

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-02 Thread Price, Edward
> -Original Message- > From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf > Of Jim Eichner > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:03 AM > To: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: RE: EMI Receiver > > Indeed, however while I too may be losing the will to live, I

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-02 Thread Jim Eichner
y all copies of the original message. From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Julian Jones Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 8:49 AM To: Untitled Subject: RE: EMI Receiver Can we please drop this topic now..I am beginning to lose the will to live. From:

Re: EMI Receiver

2008-12-01 Thread Ken Javor
field intensity x magnetic field intensity, Where "x" denotes vector cross-product. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 > From: John Woodgate > Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:07:00 + > To: > Subject: Re: EMI Receiver > > In message , dated Mon, 1 > Dec 2008, Ken Javo

Re: EMI Receiver

2008-12-01 Thread John Woodgate
In message <9d04b979323dcd428297dda95108893e0120c...@bb-corp-ex2.corp.cubic.cub>, dated Mon, 1 Dec 2008, "Price, Edward" writes: >So USA 2 billion is a UK billiard? Of course. The basis is the archaic unit 'ard' = 10^12, so a milliard is obviously 10^9. (;-) -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try

Re: EMI Receiver

2008-12-01 Thread Ken Javor
> From: Julian Jones > Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 16:48:58 - > To: Untitled > Conversation: EMI Receiver > Subject: RE: EMI Receiver > > Can we please drop this topic now..I am beginning to lose > the will to live. > > -Original Message- > From

Re: EMI Receiver

2008-12-01 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Ken Javor writes: >This may be one of those usage differences that occur on opposite sides >of the Pond. After all, what we in the USA call a billion, you call a >milliard, and what you mean by a billion is what we call one trillion. No, we don't! 'Millia

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-01 Thread Price, Edward
> -Original Message- > From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf > Of Ken Javor > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 8:47 AM > To: Untitled > Subject: Re: EMI Receiver > > This may be one of those usage differences that occur on > opposite s

RE: EMI Receiver

2008-12-01 Thread Julian Jones
Can we please drop this topic now..I am beginning to lose the will to live. From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Price, Edward Sent: 01 December 2008 16:53 To: Untitled Subject: RE: EMI Receiver > -Original Message- > From: emc-p...@ie

Re: EMI Receiver

2008-12-01 Thread Ken Javor
c 2008 16:30:08 + > To: > Subject: Re: EMI Receiver > > In message , dated Mon, 1 > Dec 2008, Ken Javor writes: > > >> Picking a very small nit, field intensity is measured in terms of Volts >> per >> meter, these days. Radiated power density is meas

Re: EMI Receiver

2008-12-01 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Ken Javor writes: >Picking a very small nit, field intensity is measured in terms of Volts >per >meter, these days. Radiated power density is measured in terms of Watts >per >square meter. I thought you would say that. In fact, the terminology is not co

Re: EMI Receiver

2008-12-01 Thread Ken Javor
ll explain in response to Ed Price's posts on this subject. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 > From: John Woodgate > Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:29:48 +0000 > To: > Subject: Re: EMI Receiver > > In message > , > dated Mon, 1 Dec 2008, "Price, Andrew (SELEX GA

Re: EMI Receiver

2008-12-01 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Mon, 1 Dec 2008, "Price, Andrew (SELEX GALILEO, UK)" writes: >What was wrong with the old Stoddart/Ailtech Identity? > >"EMI/Field Intensity Meter" But does it measure field intensity, in watts per square metre? -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and ww

FW: EMI Receiver

2008-12-01 Thread Price, Edward
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Price, Andrew (SELEX GALILEO, UK) Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:00 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: EMI Receiver Hi All

Re: EMI Receiver

2008-12-01 Thread reheller
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EMI Receiver

2008-12-01 Thread Price, Andrew (SELEX GALILEO, UK)
Hi All What was wrong with the old Stoddart/Ailtech Identity? "EMI/Field Intensity Meter" Regards Andy Andrew P. Price Principle Hardware Engineer, EMC Specialist SELEX GALILEO, Sensors & Airborne Systems Christopher Martin Road Basildon Essex SS14 3EL Mail Ref : K160 ( Tel Di

R&S ESI 26 EMI Receiver

2008-09-19 Thread Elliott Mac-FME001
Does anyone out there know of a good source to rent / lease or buy a used one of these? Best regards, William "Mac" Elliott EMC Engineer 8000 West Sunrise Blvd Plantation, Florida 33322-9947 Phone: 954.723.5480 Email: fme...@motorola.com [ X ] General Public - --

HP EMI receiver question

2007-12-04 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
For the 8568B spectrum analyzer and the 85685A pre-selector, does anybody know when HP stopped making these units? We are in the market for a spare of each, and want to know whether we're getting something that is towards the older or newer end of the spectrum (ya I know but I can't help myself).

Re: EMI receiver

2007-11-16 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hi Mike, According to an Agilent representative at the 2007 IEEE symposium in Hawaii, the combination of the Agilent PSA + pre-selector + signal generator had not been CISPR 16 certified. If CISPR 16 compliance is important to you, you may wish to double check with Agilent for the latest status.

EMI receiver

2007-11-16 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Our HP8568 based receivers are nearing end of life (some would say well past it!) and hence in need of replacement. Given the reliable service they have provided over 20+ years I’m reluctant to move away from HP/Agilent, so can anyone offer views on their experience of the Agilent PSA together wit

Options for an EMI Receiver

2007-10-16 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Dear Members, I need your help to determine options for an EMI receiver. 1. Time Domain Scan (FFT) It is my understanding that time domain scan is faster. For a manufacturer, is it necessary to choose this option (not cheap)? The goal is fully automation to take data and generate reports

Need manual for Anritsu Model ML428B EMI Receiver

2007-09-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hello fellow indentured servants. I recently acquired a slick little LF-EMI Receiver made by Anritsu, Model ML428B "Interference-Field Strength Meter" Anritsu informs me they no longer have manuals available for this unit. None of the usual After Market manual dealers I contacted have

RE: EMI receiver: Dynamic Sciences DSI-2020

2003-11-24 Thread Nagel, Michael
From: Garnier, David S (MED) [mailto:david.garn...@med.ge.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 8:06 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: EMI receiver: Dynamic Sciences DSI-2020 Hello, Has anyone had any experiance with this receiver that they would be willing to share with me (on

Re: EMI receiver: Dynamic Sciences DSI-2020

2003-11-21 Thread lfresea...@aol.com
In a message dated 11/19/2003 3:12:16 PM Central Standard Time, david.garn...@med.ge.com writes: Hello, Has anyone had any experiance with this receiver that they would be willing to share with me (on or off the listserve?) Interested, also if you are using any other EMI control S/W package t

EMI receiver: Dynamic Sciences DSI-2020

2003-11-19 Thread Garnier, David S (MED)
Hello, Has anyone had any experiance with this receiver that they would be willing to share with me (on or off the listserve?) Interested, also if you are using any other EMI control S/W package to control this guy. I am interested in it's price and it's advertised compliant cispr 16 detecto

Experiance with the PMM-9000 emi receiver?

2003-11-14 Thread Garnier, David S (MED)
Hello, Anybody have any experiance with this box that they would be willing to share? This is a 9 Khz to 1.2 Ghz emi receiver that is "fully CISPR 16-1" compliant. Thanks, dave garnier David Garnier e GE Medic

Re: EMI receiver for OATS

2003-08-28 Thread lfresea...@aol.com
In a message dated 8/27/2003 6:55:38 PM Central Daylight Time, gary_mcintu...@msn.com writes: Just a small heads up John. I don't have the specs on the instruments that you are discussing but one of the many things that the NIST folks want to know about your site are the qualifications of the

RE: EMI receiver for OATS

2003-08-27 Thread Pettit, Ghery
OATS, this shouldn't be an issue. Have fun. It's always fun spending someone else's money, isn't it? Ghery Pettit From: John Jankowski [mailto:john_jankow...@cnt.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:33 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: EMI receiver for OATS

Re: EMI receiver for OATS

2003-08-27 Thread Gary McInturff
7, 2003 11:32 AM Subject: EMI receiver for OATS List members, I am in the process of expanding the capabilities of our Open Area Test Site and have been searching for a replacement receiver. During the IEEE EMC Symposium in Boston, I reviewed two models; Schaffner - SMR 4518 ( 9khz-18Ghz)

RE: EMI receiver for OATS

2003-08-27 Thread Monty Mcewen
Could all responses please be posted to the list group as I would be interested in hearing feedback about these 2 instruments as well. Thanks, Monty From: John Jankowski [mailto:john_jankow...@cnt.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:33 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: EMI

EMI receiver for OATS

2003-08-27 Thread John Jankowski
List members, I am in the process of expanding the capabilities of our Open Area Test Site and have been searching for a replacement receiver. During the IEEE EMC Symposium in Boston, I reviewed two models; Schaffner - SMR 4518 ( 9khz-18Ghz) Dynamic Sciences International - DSI 600 Ser

Re: CISPR Compliant EMI Receiver/SA

2002-02-11 Thread KC CHAN [PDD]
Are there any opinion of EMI receiver from Schaffner? I am considering to get one receiver or spectrum analyser to cover up to 26.5 GHz. Cost is an issue and the most important is the services provided. The rep. of the famous brand of EMI reciver is not very good at servicing the test lab

Re: CISPR Compliant EMI Receiver/SA

2002-02-08 Thread Lfresearch
Hi all, I like to use a spectrum analyser more for diagnostics, and a receiver for compliance work. Of course I'm biased, but the Schaffner receiver currently covers 1 GHz, and the new version about to hit the streets goes to around 20 GHz. Both are CISPR 16 compliant. I personally feel t

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