Re: [EVDL] Need Lithium batteries.

2014-10-10 Thread Paul Dove via EV
Geez really dude! A little condescending and then you top it off with no knowledge of batteries! It's obvious they are leaf batteries. He was speaking of the link in the original message he relied to. Sent from my iPad > On Oct 10, 2014, at 2:16 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV > wrote: > >>

Re: [EVDL] Lightobject meter experience

2014-10-12 Thread Paul Dove via EV
It is just a panel meter. I use one to turn off my charger. It has worked fine for that and it seems accurate but I haven't compared it to other data. Capacity is another issue since it drops slightly with every charge and discharge cycle. It will keep good record of what was put in. I haven't

Re: [EVDL] Lightobject meter experience

2014-10-12 Thread Paul Dove via EV
Problem is no one has actually proved that with experimentation. Not in any of my reading. You can believe what ever you like. I have used ammeter for 2 years now. The voltage always end exactly the same. The next day the pack is the pack is exactly 147 volts. I have never seen any study done o

Re: [EVDL] Lightobject meter experience

2014-10-12 Thread Paul Dove via EV
I skip constant voltage. My cell voltage at the end of charge is 3.34 volts after settling for several hours. When I use cc - cv mode they settle to 3.38 volts. You don't loose more than a couple miles range by skipping the cv mode. Sent from my iPad > On Oct 12, 2014, at 9:56 PM, Rick Beebe v

Re: [EVDL] Lightobject meter experience

2014-10-13 Thread Paul Dove via EV
According to whom? Sent from my iPad > On Oct 13, 2014, at 1:55 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > > Cruisin via EV wrote: Using a meter to turn off a charger at a pre-programmed voltage can be very risky. > > Paul Dove wrote: > >> Problem is no one has actually proved that with experimen

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What Click-n-Clack know about regen (?)

2014-10-28 Thread Paul Dove via EV
You get no where near that much energy back. 5% on average. Do the math regen produces a few amps and acceleration uses hundreds of amps. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 28, 2014, at 3:57 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > > > 'REGEN SPREADS TO SUSPENSION SYSTEMS' > > http://www.greatfallstribune

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What Click-n-Clack know about regen (?)

2014-10-28 Thread paul dove via EV
Read it again. He says right up front in the article, "On the first part of the steep downhill run, we could recover about 5% of the total capacity through recuperation." From: EVDL Administrator via EV To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Sent: Tuesday

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What Click-n-Clack know about regen (?)

2014-10-28 Thread paul dove via EV
Thanks, that is what I said. Nice to see someone has published measured results. From: tomw via EV To: ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What Click-n-Clack know about regen (?) I've measured 50 - 55% of the

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What Click-n-Clack know about regen (?)

2014-10-28 Thread paul dove via EV
uot; http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/magic-tesla-roadster-regenerative-braking From: Lee Hart via EV To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What Click-n-Clack know about regen (?) Paul Dove vi

Re: [EVDL] EV-spirits: Use a Halloween Costume for the EV-cause

2014-11-01 Thread Paul Dove via EV
I usually just let them drive my car. Then they say "this is just like a regular car only peppier" Sent from my iPad > On Nov 1, 2014, at 5:54 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV > wrote: > > This is my observation about countering anti-EV rhetoric. If you find > things are different where you a

Re: [EVDL] A self contained car charging system

2014-11-01 Thread Paul Dove via EV
Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Tesla Model S? My friends all drive EV's I must make amends. Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends, So Lord, won't you buy me a Tesla Model S? Sent from my iPad > On Oct 14, 2014, at 11:02 AM, rayfellow via EV wrote: > > Here's a self contained EV cha

Re: [EVDL] Volt pih EVSE a suspect in NW Houston TX garage fire

2014-11-06 Thread Paul Dove via EV
Bet it was his BMS Sent from my iPad > On Nov 6, 2014, at 2:43 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > > > % ?Bad wiring, defective EVSE, wrong EVSE choice for a Volt pih? % > > http://www.khou.com/story/news/local/neighborhood/2014/11/05/electric-car-charger-may-be-to-blame-for-garage-fire-in-nw-hou

Re: [EVDL] Volt pih EVSE a suspect in NW Houston TX garage fire

2014-11-06 Thread paul dove via EV
burned up. Be nice if they followed up with an explanation but we will probably never know. From: Paul Dove via EV To: brucedp5 ; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 6:38 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Volt pih EVSE a suspect in NW

Re: [EVDL] Volt pih EVSE a suspect in NW Houston TX garage fire

2014-11-06 Thread paul dove via EV
True! But there is a very high probability it was the charger since that was a recent change. After all we have seen it with the Tesla as well. Tesla Motors Inc. (TSLA), which is under investigation by U.S. regulators over fires in its Model S sedan after battery punctures, will upgrade wall-c

Re: [EVDL] Range vs Speed

2014-11-06 Thread paul dove via EV
It's never zero because of conservation of energy. I think Tesla says their electronics are only 80% efficient so you loose 20% on acceleration and another 20% on regen. Not counting other losses such as wind. From: Michael Ross via EV To: Robert Bruninga

Re: [EVDL] Q about using an electronic load.

2014-11-06 Thread Paul Dove via EV
I have always used a load bank. It works great Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 6, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > > I am investigating how to test cells and packs - I will need to charge and > discharge. > > If I have a programmable electronic load, rather than purely resistive > l

Re: [EVDL] Q about using an electronic load.

2014-11-06 Thread Paul Dove via EV
I have an HP 6050a 1800 watt electronic load Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 6, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > > I have heard of putting a roll of fencing in a tank to steam off heat. Is > this useful with a programmable load? Or is this just a crude way to > discharge. > > Some

Re: [EVDL] Crusin Batteries

2014-11-07 Thread paul dove via EV
Charge them at 1C to 4.2V don't discharge past 2.5V they are 3.75 volts nominal. From: Steve Clunn via EV To: ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Crusin Batteries Hi Guys Audrey Clunn here... Just got my shipme

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: CA testing 55+mpge mi-based/VMT road-tax-fees aimed@ plugins

2014-11-07 Thread Paul Dove via EV
Not really! The government must collect taxes to pay for roads. Previously it was done by taxing fuel. You can tax electricity to pay for roads because how would you know which part went into the vehicle. So they have to devise another way Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2014, at 9:36 AM, EVDL

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid battery reconditioning

2014-11-17 Thread Paul Dove via EV
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_restore_nickel_based_batteries Sent from my iPad > On Nov 17, 2014, at 5:57 AM, Pestka, Dennis J via EV > wrote: > > Has anyone heard of this company, or have any experience with them. > > http://www.thehybridshop.com/battery-conditioning/how-

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid battery reconditioning

2014-11-17 Thread paul dove via EV
You all need to read the link I posted. It explains how to recondition Nickle based batteries. It also explains the failure mechanism and why this works. From: EVDL Administrator via EV To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread paul dove via EV
I built mine 2 years ago. The only time I charged it anywhere besides my garage was when I towed it to EVCON. It's mostly a silly argument and most chargers around cities are never used. From: Ben Goren via EV To: tomw ; Electric Vehicle Discussion List

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Supercapacitors could get Tesla their 7credit-EV

2014-11-20 Thread Paul Dove via EV
The problem is not charging time. The problem is the electrical power grid cannot supply the energy to charge a car in 10 minutes Sent from my iPad > On Nov 20, 2014, at 3:54 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > > > http://paultan.org/2014/11/15/battery-free-electric-cars/ > Battery-free electric

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Supercapacitors could get Tesla their 7credit-EV

2014-11-20 Thread paul dove via EV
ail: cwa...@proxim.com Private: http://www.cvandewater.info Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626 -Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Paul Dove via EV Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:04 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN:

Re: [EVDL] OT: status> the newswires are changing, (L1 CORRECTION!)

2014-11-25 Thread Paul Dove via EV
Just a little history, gasoline cars had to buy gas in gallon cans from the hardware store in the beginning. Sent from my iPad > On Nov 24, 2014, at 11:53 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > > I think the solution will be much more boring than that. As battery capacity > increases and charge ti

Re: [EVDL] OT: status> the newswires are changing, (L1 CORRECTION!)

2014-11-25 Thread Paul Dove via EV
I believe that is why Tesla gives it away to its customers. Sent from my iPad > On Nov 24, 2014, at 11:45 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > > Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: >> And with parking meters charging, becoming bigger and also taking >> credit cards, I see a potential future in the merging of

Re: [EVDL] OT: status> the newswires are changing, (L1 CORRECTION!)

2014-11-25 Thread Paul Dove via EV
ricity, i'll > drive 40-60 miles (hour), fill up for an hour or half hour at a supercharger, > drive 40-60 miles back (another hour or so)" who dont comprehend the cost to > fill a battery and focus on "free") > > This is EV related in thats it's charging &

Re: [EVDL] OT: status> the newswires are changing, (Retractible Cords)

2014-11-25 Thread paul dove via EV
Except for the fact that much of the population lives in Apartments and high roise building and have neither option. Where I live it works fine. I built a car with 40 miles of range. I plug in at home and at work so every time I get in it it is fully charged. I drive 20 miles to work and it's f

Re: [EVDL] OT: status> the newswires are changing, (L1 CORRECTION!)

2014-11-25 Thread Paul Dove via EV
Very rare? Like film and mechanical watches. No it's common and happens all the time and it's happening now Sent from my iPad > On Nov 25, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > > EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: >> Most posts in this thread are vastly underestimating the immense inertia o

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: "Electrified" Corvette next year

2022-04-28 Thread paul dove via EV
Just like the Mach E! I for one am glad to see that we are getting more choices.  I do t believe anyone is competing with Tesla. No game changers on the Horizon. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, April 27, 2022, 6:03 PM, Mark Grasser via EV wrote: And all wheel drive. This

Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch

2022-05-22 Thread paul dove via EV
Reminds me of all the people defending AT&T when they lost in court to MCI. Talking about how bad it was to break up AT&T as if they did us any favors. Now you see the same thing only it’s against Tesla for daring to start their own car company and to boot not use advertising or dealerships. Wha

Re: [EVDL] Why people dislike Tesla

2022-05-23 Thread paul dove via EV
I get real tired of people who don’t own a Tesla saying Tesla has a service problem. Every company gets complaints and dealerships are notorious for bad service and pushy salespeople. Heck, I can’t even get the Mitsubishi dealer here to fix the I-MiEV. I bought one with a new battery and it woul

Re: [EVDL] Why people dislike Tesla

2022-05-23 Thread paul dove via EV
good experience, but I’ll be bet that you don’t talk about it as much as someone with a wretched experience. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On May 23, 2022, at 6:09 AM, paul dove via EV wrote: > > I get real tired of people who don’t own a Tesla saying Tesla has

Re: [EVDL] Why people dislike Tesla

2022-05-28 Thread paul dove via EV
I am game! I have a 2012 I-MiEV that does about 30 miles. I bought some Samsung SDI cells that are 94Ah original batteries were 50Ah. They are just slightly taller than the Yuasa batteries used originally so I believe they will fit with no mods. I had one before that had the battery replaced by

Re: [EVDL] Why people dislike Tesla

2022-05-30 Thread paul dove via EV
No sweat! I gladly take on partners. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, May 29, 2022, 6:32 PM, Michael A. Radtke via EV wrote: David, >Not to break in on a semi-private conversation here, but I wonder what >end- of-life looks like for an EV. Well, for my Jet ElecraVan, end of

Re: [EVDL] Why people dislike Tesla

2022-05-30 Thread paul dove via EV
People are basically negative. They complain way more than they applaud. Complaining is self-reinforcing. The more we complain, the more self-righteous we feel, and the more self-righteous we feel, the more we’re entitled to complain. Also, complaining is contagious: If one person does it, ev

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: NC wants to eliminate free EV charging

2022-07-09 Thread paul dove via EV
Now! That is not new! Most prices were fixed during WW2 Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, July 9, 2022, 5:07 PM, Mark Grasser via EV wrote: Sorry David, I must. I find it interesting that the government has now decided it can tell privately owned retailers what they can offe

Re: [EVDL] no more "iced" chargers ?

2022-07-16 Thread paul dove via EV
No, it only uses one spot. Watch the video Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, July 15, 2022, 2:17 PM, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote: > A robot with a 100kwh battery will be > the size of Optimus Prime And therein lies the potential failure of this somewhat silly idea. With this sc

Re: [EVDL] EV charging v crypto mining

2022-07-19 Thread paul dove via EV
Anyone that drives electric already knew that. I didn’t even notice a change in my electric bill when I switched to electric $20 to $30 a month with two cars. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, July 18, 2022, 8:56 PM, Steves via EV wrote: We hear often how EV charging will overt

Re: [EVDL] Tesla's 'Radio Upgrade' Adds FM & Sirius XM Back, But Costs $500

2022-07-30 Thread paul dove via EV
https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_us/GUID-01F1A582-99D1-4933-B5FB-B2F0203FFE6F.html On Saturday, July 30, 2022, 05:16:46 PM CDT, Mark Hanson via EV wrote: Hi folks Yesterday my FM stations disappeared on a model Y update. Does anyone know how to get the frequency numbers to

Re: [EVDL] solar panels over parking lots, duh

2022-11-16 Thread paul dove via EV
I’ve said that’s what we should do for years now! It makes perfect sense Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, November 16, 2022, 7:55 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: France to require all large parking lots to be covered by solar panels https://grist.org/article/france-to-requir

Re: [EVDL] solar panels over parking lots, duh

2022-11-18 Thread paul dove via EV
On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 10:41:01 PM CST, Lawrence Winiarski via EV wrote: Underground?   Parking garages?  Trees???  Nearby Skyscrapers? I like solar, but...I'm nervous of bureaucrats making arbitrary decisions.       On Wednesday, November 16, 2022, 7:27:27 PM PST, pau

Re: [EVDL] the grid needs upgrading - fast

2022-11-23 Thread paul dove via EV
Yes, unfortunately, no one is guiding development with the consumer in mind. I’ve been up north and there are parking lots with outlets at every parking spot I suppose for block heaters. It would fairly easy and cheap to do this more. Then you could plug in at work. I don’t know about in public

Re: [EVDL] the grid needs upgrading - fast

2022-11-24 Thread paul dove via EV
In Europe they even have electric ships. I haven’t heard of any grid issues there. Fully Charged Presents Electric Ferry With 4.1 MWh Battery:  ttps://insideevs.com/news/349545/fully-charged-electric-ferry/ Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, November 24, 2022, 1:17 AM, Peri Ha

Re: [EVDL] the grid needs upgrading - fast

2022-11-24 Thread paul dove via EV
That’s not a problem. Get the Tesla supercharger app. They didn’t impact the grid.  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, November 24, 2022, 10:39 AM, Matthew Pitts via EV wrote: Peri, The problem is that you'll need far more locations to charge EV Semi Trucks than just at curr

Re: [EVDL] the grid needs upgrading - fast

2022-11-25 Thread paul dove via EV
You mean industry cooperation for the good of all. We are in competition in the US, corporate profits are all that matters    Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, November 25, 2022, 10:11 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: I don't know of methane would, on average, produce less CO2 i

Re: [EVDL] Goodbye old friend.

2022-12-11 Thread paul dove via EV
That is not bricking a car! It will charge just not on. Supercharger. This is to protect superchargers from burning down not to prevent repairs. Like it or not they own the superchargers. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, December 11, 2022, 2:32 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:

Re: [EVDL] Goodbye old friend.

2022-12-12 Thread paul dove via EV
ause > > the gas station might "burn down"? > > > > > >    On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 04:15:20 PM PST, paul dove via EV < > > ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > > >  That is not bricking a car! It will charge just not on. Supercharger. > >

Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS

2022-12-18 Thread paul dove via EV
Alleged mis-behavior  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, December 18, 2022, 9:08 AM, Jay Summet via EV wrote: On 12/17/22 11:21, Willie McKemie via EV wrote: > Yes, hate for Musk seems to dominate. Here and elsewhere. Despite his > obvious skills and MANY successes. I am confus

Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS

2022-12-18 Thread paul dove via EV
Have to?  I am sure they did the math.  On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 10:18:27 AM CST, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: Too little too late.  Now Tesla is going to have to add the clunky CCS connectors to its network at considerable expense. I use a Tesla tap. Tesla has a CHAdeMO adap

Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS

2022-12-18 Thread paul dove via EV
I have it on good authority that Elon is a very very difficult man to work for. This may be why he is so successful, perhaps. What I read in the news lately about Elon seems completely in character for him. I don't doubt anything I have read so far in the least. Bill D. On 12/19/2022 5:40

Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS

2022-12-19 Thread paul dove via EV
You all need to change the name of this list from electric vehicle discussion list to Tesla bashing discussion list.  Musk attended Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario, and in 1992 he transferred to the University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, where he received bachelor’s degrees in physics

Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS

2022-12-19 Thread paul dove via EV
I would not characterize it in that way.  They were a year old when he invested ((2004). They didn't even have a product yet. They just had an idea; the prototype was unveiled 2 years after Mush became chairman of the board of directors (2006). Eberhard resigned as CEO a year after that (2007).

Re: [EVDL] Tesla - car company from scratch

2022-12-19 Thread paul dove via EV
Little known history. The Tesla drive train was purchased from a company founded by Allen Cocconi called AC Propulsion. Allen was the engineer that designed the EV1 drive train for GM. On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:33:29 AM CST, Tom Mandera via EV wrote: Why do we start with an I

Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS

2022-12-19 Thread paul dove via EV
How do you know they didn't need him? I was under the impression that they approached him about investing. Elon said Eberhard was wealthy but unwilling to risk his own money. On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 12:23:36 PM CST, Lawrence Winiarski wrote: Still, if the the original Tesla guys

Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS

2022-12-19 Thread paul dove via EV
No, you are being difficult. It's obvious to me that folks on this forum dislikes Telsa based fabricated information. Did anyone here look up facts about the CEO's of Ford, GM, Nissan, Toyota, etc. before they bought a car? It is sheer nonsense. On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 01:32:59 PM C

Re: [EVDL] Tesla - car company from scratch

2022-12-19 Thread paul dove via EV
Yeah, the original Tesla Roadster used the ACP design with very little change. On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 11:55 AM paul dove via EV wrote:  Little known history. The Tesla drive train was purchased from a company founded by Allen Cocconi called AC Propulsion. Allen was the engineer that designed the

Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS

2022-12-20 Thread paul dove via EV
Really, how did you get so jaded? It is getting tiresome. Ask yourself how many automobile startups have you seen in your life that were successful? Nissan, Mitsubishi and others are established companies who are subsidized by their governments. Tesla has been fighting and uphill battle. Everyon

Re: [EVDL] Do EVs make green sense?

2023-01-05 Thread paul dove via EV
Tesla didn't invent using aluminum and they are not the only ones. https://www.motortrend.com/features/15-automotive-aluminum- warriors/ Money is what drives the world. If people are buying EV's they will solve all the problems to provide a product. On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 02:20:17

[EVDL] Industry adoption of EVs

2023-01-16 Thread paul dove via EV
https://youtu.be/sbPH5cTTBD s you need to remove the space between D and s to navigate to the link. Interesting, I have seen many conversations on here about EVs not a good solution for industrial applications. Someone was thinking outside the box on this one. I thought maybe this group

Re: [EVDL] Tesla slashes its car prices for speculator reasons in click bait headline says advertisers who tesla never advertise with ($35k is here) (Tesla≠TaTa)

2023-01-18 Thread paul dove via EV
They are just like other car companies. If you look for overstock end of month sales you can find a deal. I bought my long range Model S 2019 brand new because it had been on the lot for a while for $78,000. Had like 50 miles on it. Autopilot 100kwh battery. Sunroof.  I saw a plaid that’s been o

Re: [EVDL] 2 acre riding lawn mower

2023-02-09 Thread paul dove via EV
I apologize! Sincerely was not trying to be rude. Originally I was going to post a link. Seems when I do that it includes a bunch of graphics and the forum rejects those. In addition, my chihuahua was jumping on me while typing in my phone and I didn’t give much thought to how it sounded. I mere

Re: [EVDL] 2 acre riding lawn mower

2023-02-09 Thread paul dove via EV
There are several companies making them. I guess ego is not a major manufacturer in your mind. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, February 8, 2023, 11:12 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Well, not something you would take on the road, but I'm glad to see a major manufacturer,

Re: [EVDL] How is tihis possible?

2023-03-11 Thread paul dove via EV
https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/woman-discovers-keyless-entry-fob-opens-other-locked-cars?_amp=true   Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, March 11, 2023, 4:10 AM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: A Vancouver man is trying to figure out how he managed to get into someone else´s

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Can you fix your own Tesla?

2023-03-19 Thread paul dove via EV
They are all being sued for that. GM says the can’t comply for safety reason and proprietary property  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, March 19, 2023, 6:30 AM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: Two proposed class-action lawsuits allege that Tesla is violating US antitrust laws b

[EVDL] Tesla sells beer

2023-04-05 Thread paul dove via EV
https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/04/business/elon-musk-tesla-beer-gigabier/index.html   -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: __

Re: [EVDL] China fires back!

2023-04-06 Thread paul dove via EV
The thing is Tesla is the current leader in sales and technology when it comes to electric motors. They announced at the last investors day that they were going away from rare earth elements in their vehicles in the future.They are going to produce a permanent magnet electric motor with zer

Re: [EVDL] China fires back!

2023-04-07 Thread paul dove via EV
So, which Chinese EV should I purchase? Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, April 6, 2023, 5:10 PM, Paul Compton via EV wrote: On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 at 19:10, paul dove via EV wrote: > I wouldn't expect China to produce anything worth having in the near future >

Re: [EVDL] China fires back!

2023-04-08 Thread paul dove via EV
Tesla makes cars in China too! Let’s be clear though. They aren’t Chinese cars neither is a Renault or any other brand that builds a factory in China or Mexico or wherever. I was speaking if Chinese brands. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, April 7, 2023, 6:16 PM, EV List Lackey

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: "The end of the internal combustion engine" via China

2023-04-22 Thread paul dove via EV
Elon Musk May Have Been Right, His Tesla Model Y Guess Could Come True Tesla CEO Elon Musk often gets to prove to people that he was right all along, and another such opportunity may come soon enough.   Tesla CEO Elon Musk said some time ago that the Model Y would outsell all of Tesla's other

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

2023-04-24 Thread paul dove via EV
Interesting article. I have a Model S with unlimited supercharging and I have never heard of this offer. So, how exactly is Tesla trying to get us to give up free supercharging? It appears that it is an incentive to try and sell new cars which don't have free supercharging rather than a ploy to

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

2023-04-24 Thread paul dove via EV
their Superchargers? Unhappily yours, Cor. On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 1:27 PM paul dove via EV wrote: > >  Interesting article. > I have a Model S with unlimited supercharging and I have never heard of this > offer. > So, how exactly is Tesla trying to get us to give up free supercharging? &g

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

2023-04-25 Thread paul dove via EV
f in the car, which is... stupid and unnecessary, I am > *sure* that the Supercharging network can identify cars - how else can > they enable other cars to start using their Superchargers? > Unhappily yours, > Cor. > > On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 1:27 PM paul dove via EV wrote: >

Re: [EVDL] A123 battery charger

2023-04-27 Thread paul dove via EV
Charge at 3A to 3.6 v cc cv till current drops to C/20. Any lithium iron phosphate charger will work Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, April 27, 2023, 10:40 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: I have some left over A123 Systems ANR2665M1A cells. I would like to use a few to

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: "The end of the internal combustion engine" via China

2023-05-01 Thread paul dove via EV
ot;good riddance". I'm no big Elon Musk fan, but it's just a dream to see that the Model Y is on its way to being the most popular car of any kind in the world. -Tom On 4/22/2023 1:33 PM, paul dove via EV wrote: > Elon Musk May Have Been Right, His Tesla Model Y Guess Could Com

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

2023-05-16 Thread paul dove via EV
Only by a select few and I don’t understand it either  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, May 16, 2023, 1:41 PM, Willie via EV wrote: On 5/16/23 12:53, Josh Landess wrote: > It looks like you have quite a bit of first-hand knowledge in this > area. What speeds do you get on yo

Re: [EVDL] Why Toyota Isn't Rushing to Sell You an Electric Vehicle

2023-05-17 Thread paul dove via EV
Here, you guys can get one of these. https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-model-3-outsold-china-hong-guang-mini-ev-2021-5? Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, May 17, 2023, 6:29 PM, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: Since we are railing against the "Man" today (Auto Manufacturers): http

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

2023-05-17 Thread paul dove via EV
So, what is your alternative. A leaf? They were the only ones that made a usable vehicle.  Now if they had a bunch of competitors this would be reasonable criticism but nobody else was doing anything. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, May 17, 2023, 11:08 AM, (-Phil-) via EV w

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

2023-05-17 Thread paul dove via EV
I believe most of the Tesla fans actually own one and most of the skeptics never have and probably never drove one. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, May 17, 2023, 4:06 PM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: On 17 May 2023 at 6:52, Josh Landess via EV wrote: > > "...I don't know

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

2023-05-19 Thread paul dove via EV
So, according to google a leaf in 2015 was 33 to $36k. I paid $42k for my model 3 in 2018.  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, May 18, 2023, 2:23 PM, Jay Summet via EV wrote: On 5/17/23 18:49, paul dove via EV wrote: > So, what is your alternative. A leaf? We

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

2023-05-21 Thread paul dove via EV
In a statement, Tesla explains that it is a software limitation to optimize for the best possible owner experience that’s within the limits of physics. Here’s the statement in full: “The peak charging rate possible in a li-ion cell will slightly decline after a very large number of high-rate

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

2023-05-23 Thread paul dove via EV
Yes one that wouldn’t go as far or charge as fast as the Tesla he owns now.  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, May 23, 2023, 5:25 AM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: On 22 May 2023 at 21:30, Josh Landess via EV wrote: > Tesla had replaced it > under warranty with a 90 (they don

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla's reputation takes a hit

2023-05-25 Thread paul dove via EV
It’s worse than that… history shows that people resist change and it seems especially technology changes.  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 7:47 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: Out of more than 100 models, the Tesla Model Y is the highest-scoring car test

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chinese EVs are headed for the US

2023-05-25 Thread paul dove via EV
Tesla Model 3 outsells the Camry in several of there too markets. Model Y outsells the RAV4. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, May 25, 2023, 2:29 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: I think the direction of Tesla's future is quite unknown. Musk is about as unpredictable as you c

Re: [EVDL] charging infrastructure [EV Digest, Vol 127, Issue 14]

2023-06-04 Thread paul dove via EV
It is easily solved. Put chargers in every gas station. Wouldn’t need many. There’s usually several gas stations at every exit on a highway and every few blocks in a city Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, June 4, 2023, 1:16 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Right now, most of us

Re: [EVDL] Which sex buys more EVs?

2023-06-05 Thread paul dove via EV
My wife sold her Model 3 because chargers are still too isolated in malls around shops that have limited hours. She doesn’t travel much alone but wanted ice car in case she ever had to. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, June 3, 2023, 12:55 PM, Josh Landess via EV wrote: The

Re: [EVDL] Game over the Tesla NACS wins the day

2023-06-09 Thread paul dove via EV
With a Tesla you have an account with cc information already stored. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, June 9, 2023, 10:05 AM, Tom Keenan via EV wrote: If NACS does become the standard, I’m curious how Tesla will do billing for non-Tesla vehicles. Will the vehicle be identified

Re: [EVDL] Game over the Tesla NACS wins the day

2023-06-10 Thread paul dove via EV
The Tesla service representative told me that adapters (even Tesla adapters) are the most likely failure point. They can get hot and melt. I quit using mine after he told me. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, June 10, 2023, 1:54 AM, Danny Ames via EV wrote: Forwarding post

Re: [EVDL] Game over the Tesla NACS wins the day

2023-06-10 Thread paul dove via EV
It’s in the new standard mandated by the government. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/02/15/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-announces-new-standards-and-major-progress-for-a-made-in-america-national-network-of-electric-vehicle-chargers/   Sent from AT&T Yah

Re: [EVDL] Game over the Tesla NACS wins the day

2023-06-10 Thread paul dove via EV
There are no card readers on them and they don’t need them. You register your car and have a card on file. You just plug in … can’t be simpler than that. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, June 9, 2023, 4:53 PM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: On 9 Jun 2023 at 8:04, Tom Keenan via

Re: [EVDL] need new home ESVE

2023-06-18 Thread paul dove via EV
Been using mine for four years on my Model S.  No issues.  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, June 18, 2023, 5:45 PM, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: I do not recommend the mobile connector for daily use, it's got pretty thin cable and has a lot more loss, and eventually the cable seems t

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread paul dove via EV
He said supercharger.  Guess he’s saying the charger checks the Vin #. Would work on home Tesla chargers  Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, June 21, 2023, 3:10 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: Chargerman CCS Combo 2 to US Tesla Dual(DC+AC) Adapter - Black Last item availab

Re: [EVDL] Curtis 1204-015 controler replace or repair?

2023-06-27 Thread paul dove via EV
Amazon.com: New 1204-015 Cc33788 24V / 36V 275Amp DC Controller for Curtis Club Car : Automotive On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 11:44:15 PM CDT, David Nelson via EV wrote: Hi, I have a 1993 Club Car 36V golf cart I'm trying to resurrect for a charitable organization. I hooked up some

Re: [EVDL] EV charging is changing

2023-08-28 Thread paul dove via EV
There own cheapness brought them to Tesla. They didn’t want to pay for it. Wanted the government or someone else to foot the bill. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, August 28, 2023, 12:44 PM, EV@TucsonEV via EV wrote: https://chargedevs.com/features/how-automakers-disappointme

Re: [EVDL] EV charging is changing

2023-08-29 Thread paul dove via EV
That's great except for traveling and apartment dwellers. I only use the supercharger when on the interstates. My non-Tesla EV  I only use in the city and charge at home. On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 04:06:05 PM CDT, Lee Hart via EV wrote: EV@TucsonEV via EV wrote: > One of the reaso

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Chat concerning a model Y purchase concern. Didn't go well.

2023-09-10 Thread paul dove via EV
Due to their long life, safety, and affordability, Tesla, Ford, and other major automakers are switching to LFP batteries in some of their EV models. Tesla uses LFP batteries in its Model 3 Standard Range Plus and Model Y Standard Range models.  https://eepower.com/market-insights/tesla-kicks-of

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Chat concerning a model Y purchase concern. Didn't go well.

2023-09-10 Thread paul dove via EV
My point was… it says standard range has LFP cells Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, September 9, 2023, 8:32 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: True. However, Manganese will be cheaper yet, and better. Lawrence Rhodes     On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 06:14:26 PM PDT, pau

Re: [EVDL] EV Distance Record Smashed

2023-09-16 Thread paul dove via EV
Or carry spare batteries. On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 08:00:20 PM CDT, Lee Hart via EV wrote: Alan Arrison via EV wrote: > 100 miles on 1kWh? What are you smoking? > > I'm pretty sure even an electric bicycle can't do that. No; think about it. A bicycle goes about 15 mph. 100 mil

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 3000lb of metal, parked

2023-09-17 Thread paul dove via EV
Stories like this are so unbelievable. I have never communicated with Tesla via email. Any issue with my vehicle was handled via the phone app. They always respond in a timely manner and I have the option to call the service center with questions. On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 06:59:40 A

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 3000lb of metal, parked

2023-09-18 Thread paul dove via EV
Lackey via EV wrote: > > On 17 Sep 2023 at 14:06, paul dove via EV wrote: > > > Stories like this are so unbelievable. > > I have never communicated with Tesla via email. > > Any issue with my vehicle was handled via the phone app. > > They always respond in a time

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