So what happens to the new emails when the real server is down, does the
test server except them? This would result in a loss of emails when the
real server comes back onb I agree with Louis here, get the test
server on a different physical network.
Sander
-Original Message-
Yep, make the original incoming address a D/L and one recipient of the
D/L is a contact (you guessed itit, it will be the email address of your
mdeamon, so it will get a copy of the incoming email)
Have fun
Sander Van Butzelaar, MCSA MCSE
Administrator
KORBI.NET
http://www.korbi.net
Never let
You might have 150mb free space on your server but how much free space do
you have on the drive/partition that the MTADATA files are stored on?
eg: d:\ may have 150mb free but
c:\ is under 10mb.
If the MTA files reside on c:\ then this will cause the MTA to shutdown.
Check everything and
Furthermore, if the brown stuff does hit the fan and valuable data is
compromised because of this; the people who don't know jack about IT are
going to ask the people who do know about IT what steps they took to secure
their network. And its usually the guys who don't know jack about IT who
know
Indeed, or you could set up an alternate recipient on the mailbox. The
alternate recipient being a custom recipient with the mdaemon address.
Regards
Mr Louis Joyce
Data Support Analyst
BT Ignite eSolutions
-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:
I'd be interested to know if you have had a chance to test this yet as we
also have an application that requires MDAC2.6 or later to go on our NT4
servers. [it's the Bindview Migration re-permissioning agent btw)
I'll probably check it out next week if you can wait.
-Original Message-
Thanks for your reply.
you guessed itit, it will be the email address of your
mdeamon.
But my Mdeamon is not acting as an active mail server (no internet presence). I want
that my exchange 2000 server forward it locally, Is their a way to that.
Regards,
-Original Message-
From:
They only way Exchange is going to forward anything is through SMTP. So
what do you mean by locally? You do not need an internet presence to be
a mail server, one can relay/Pat/Nat whatever you want. I take it the
two servers can talk TCP/IP to each other?
Sander
-Original Message-
Definitely.
To make it clear.
Create a User [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Create a Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enable forwarding on [EMAIL PROTECTED] by adding [EMAIL PROTECTED] contact
Create smtp connector and type the IP address of the Mdeamon machine.
At the address space tab enter the domain
Firstly - The Exchange box is world facing and gets real mail.
Secondly - The Mdaemon is a box on your network which, once it receives
a mail, will mail out a response (relaying using the Exchange box) back
to the original sender.
Right?
So to do this you will need to set up the following:
1.
There is still replication traffic queuing - specifically directory updates.
That message is just saying that it can't get to the destination server.
Once you remove that server from the site, it will stop trying to replicate
info to it.
--
Why yes William. If you would be so kind as to check this link, I think you
will find an very nice list to work with.
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxj.htm
-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:00 PM
To:
That officerecovery.com/exchange thing worked great. I just downloaded
the demo, and changed the OST to a PST file. Then imported his calendar
information back in.
I tried your first suggestion before I posted (create new OST, replace
with old OST, removed network cable, went offline).
OK one more bit of ignorance..
Can I remove the OLD svrwith its exchange service OFF??
or must the OLD svr Exchange service be running?
again thx to all for their input on this
bill
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15,
What are you talking about? You want to remove a server from a site?
-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 6:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Can exchange 5.5 be set up as a list server?
OK one more bit of
Whoaa!... steady there. Warn us before switching threads!
Regards
Mr Louis Joyce
Data Support Analyst
BT Ignite eSolutions
-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 March 2002 14:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Can exchange 5.5 be set up as a
Sorry folks..me bad ID10T today I guess. didn't mean to put it in the
incorrect thread.
fingers quicker then brain right now..coffee should kick in soon.
I can't even use the excuse that it's monday..
-Original Message-
From: Louis Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March
Exch 5.5 SP4, Win2k SP2. When some of my users try to send to internet mail
with attachments, they get this bounce. I have checked everything on the IMC
and everywhere else. Any thoughts? They are sending in Rich Text, but that
shouldn't be a problem.
MSEXCH:IMS:GSW:Columbus:EXCHANGECMH
But it IS Friday.
John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981
If I could wish for my life to be perfect, it would be tempting but I would
have to decline, for life would no longer teach me anything. --Allyson Jones
-Original
How are the attachments being attached? What sort of attachments are they?
Regards
Mr Louis Joyce
Data Support Analyst
BT Ignite eSolutions
-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 March 2002 14:48
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Conversion to
On our network we have many AGs
our recipient policy does as it please
my mail lives in MA
but when time came to take messages away
It said that I lived in Belize
For some reason our automatic recipient policies (which we have added our
message retention policies to ) seem to be getting
Mutterings in the media seem to indicate that the UK or EU powers that be,
may enable laws requiring companies to retain ALL emails for a specific
period.
In our case we have deleted item retention set to 7 days and not finally
deleted until a backup is performed. + backups retained for a
Yes. the dumpsteralwayson registry value allows items that have been hard
deleted to be recovered.
Search TechNet for dumpsteralwayson
Regards
Mr Louis Joyce
Data Support Analyst
BT Ignite eSolutions
-Original Message-
From: Taylor, Mal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 March 2002
How about asking your HR department to speak to the some 'not many' users
who insist on using this method. Perhaps saying that if they persist they
can fu$k off out the door.
Regards
Mr Louis Joyce
Data Support Analyst
BT Ignite eSolutions
-Original Message-
From: Taylor, Mal
Mainly .docs. They are being attached both ways. Inserting them as
attachments and copying and pasting.
-Original Message-
From: Louis Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 9:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Conversion to Internet format failed
How
Michael, on your IMC. What do you have selected for your outbound
attachements under the Internet Mail tab?
___
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From:
Plain text and html.
-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 11:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Conversion to Internet format failed
Michael, on your IMC. What do you have selected for your outbound
attachements
This is only happening when trying to send Outbound? Or is it both inbound
or outbound?
___
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael
I only have Plain Text selected in that box. Have you tried removing HTML?
See if that does anything?
___
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From:
Outbound only. Right now have all rich text formatting to never be sent.
We have a bunch of Lotus clients and I think that might have been affecting
the conversion.
-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 11:11 AM
To: Exchange
Yep, it doesn't do anything for me.
-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 11:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Conversion to Internet format failed
I only have Plain Text selected in that box. Have you tried
Are you definitely sure that it happens with attachments? I think this may
be an issue with pasting word documents into the body of the email.
Regards
Mr Louis Joyce
Data Support Analyst
BT Ignite eSolutions
-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:
Yes Sir. That's what I thought until I got a bounce saying the same thing
with the attachments attached like they should be.
-Original Message-
From: Louis Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 11:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Conversion to
Glad it all worked out. You're probably right about the profile having
been changed. Damned first level support! ;)
Tom.
-Original Message-
From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Evil OST files.
That
Even if that was the case, I have my IMC to never send rich text. I
wouldn't think that it would come back with that error?
-Original Message-
From: Louis Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 11:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Conversion to Internet
Sorry, out for the rest of the day. Thanks for the help. To be
continued..
-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 11:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Conversion to Internet format failed
Even if that was the
Are the clients using Word as the e-mail editor?
- Original Message -
From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 9:58 AM
Subject: RE: Conversion to Internet format failed
Mainly .docs. They are being attached both
Here in the States the SEC (Securities Exchange Commission, the folks who
regulate stock-related activities) required the retention of mail a couple
years ago. That's when MS came out with the journaling feature; that is to
say, the purpose of the journaling feature is exactly what you're looking
I think he's gone. I can pretend to be him if you like?
Now where did i put that spoofing software...
Regards
Mr Louis Joyce
Data Support Analyst
BT Ignite eSolutions
-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 March 2002 16:46
To: Exchange
I usually misread everything. :)
-Original Message-
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Evil OST files.
My certainty about how it works now is not 100%. But, I think that Tom
is
probably correct in
We had that recently and only tracked it down after getting all the headers
from a number of the duplicated messages, then checking the routing part of
header to see at which point the duplication was. Without this evidence
everyone will deny responsibility, so get the users to track down some
Are you using a PIX Firewall, if so have your network administrator turn off
the smtp fixup protocol.
Jeff
-Original Message-
From: Jasa, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Clients receiving multiple copies of the same
Were do you get the information that it is criminal? I certainly don't
agree with it, but my understanding is that current case law (at least in my
state) actually supports that if it is a business account the business is
who owns it.
-Original Message-
From: Damien D Keffyn
Have you heard the saying; 'better to be safe than sorry'?
Conferring with your legal department would make certain to what you think
is true in your state. Email privacy is a shady subject in all areas of the
world. Make sure you have every angle covered before you go down this route.
Regards
The law varies from State to State and Country to Country. Best practice
is get advice from counsel. Don't do it without something in writing.
Tom.
-Original Message-
From: Whitlock, Teresa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 12:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
My guess is that the problem is probably much simpler than what has been
portrayed.
Are there any non-Exchange Server DL's or is there someone making heavy use
of personal DL's, with multiple entries or nesting going on? Almost
certainly, the system is doing exactly what the users have told it
I've not tested it yet. I'm mostly concerned with the JET components that
they want updated. MDAC 2.5 dropped the Jet components and if you need those
(this does) then you need to install the Jet40SP3_comp.exe. I'm not too
pleased about replacing JET components on an application that runs with
Boy can I crash Exchange servers like the best. This one is a E2K, on Win
2K, both SP2. All lastes Hotfixes from windowsupdate.ms.com. Running Trend
Scanmail for E2K.System was running fine for 1 year now, out of now where
this. Did activate TS licenses on this server yesterday, but that's it.
I have some team members here that believe that regular defragmentation
(offline) should be done as routine maintenance. I don't share this
opinion, but I am having a hard time finding evidence to support my
belief. Does anyone know of any links that support the theory that
eseutil should not
Thanks for the Advice. I will make sure that I get it in writing to do
that. I didn't of it as being against the law as the Company owns the
email system.
But besides that, Is there a way to do it?
Thanks
Saul
-Original Message-
From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Also, I don't think that there is any governing Federal case law yet. The
first time there is a ruling in your circuit, your State law could be
modified, and depending on the type of case and the statutory authority, a
ruling in one circuit might be valid across the country. I am reasonably
I absolutely agree with this. My original point was just that flat
statements like 'It's illegal' are not true. This whole area puts email
admins in a very difficult position. Usually the people asking you to do
this sort of thing are the ones that sign your paycheck.
Getting it in writing is
As granddad once said, if it ain't broke don't fix it!
-Original Message-
From: paragon400 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 12:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: eseutil /d
I have some team members here that believe that regular defragmentation
(offline)
Yes
if you have mailsweeper you can create a custome archive to copy every mail
in and out to a specified mail account.
-Original Message-
From: Exchange Newsgroups [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 5:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tracking an Email
- Original Message -
From: John Q Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: Clients receiving multiple copies of the same email
Boy can I crash Exchange servers like the best. This one is a E2K, on Win
2K, both
Try reading Jim McBee's book - Exchange 247. It talks about this very
issue. Basically, it comes down to the view, from my reading, that if it
ain't broke - leave it alone. If you aren't seeing any errors in the Event
logs that clue you into a problem with the databases don't go begging for
I don't have any additional software. The only thing I am running on it
is Exchange 2000.
Thanks
-Original Message-
From: Martin Byrne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Friday, March 15, 2002 9:42 AM
Posted To: Exchange Newsgroups
Conversation: Tracking an Email Message
Subject:
One cannot prove a negative. Have them give their reasoning for this and
then you can address their concerns.
- Original Message -
From: paragon400 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 11:32 AM
Subject: eseutil /d
I have some team
I remember an excellent explanation of how this will actually hurt Exchange
performance by one of the Ed's. I saved it, then lost it somehow. Maybe
someone still has it.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Couch, Nate
Sent: Friday, March 15,
Its one of those touchy, up to interpretation subjects. Remember, case law
is just what someone else decided, and there is always that concept of
expectation of privacy.
They are just suggesting that someone high enough in the company to take
responsibility for doing it give you
But im sure you must have a DMZ what are you using to filter your email??I
may be able to help
-Original Message-
From: Exchange Newsgroups [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 5:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tracking an Email Message
I don't have any
I am not filtering anything other than viruses and the normal *.exe,
*.vbs, and so on. I am running Antigen for E2K. I don't think Antigen
provides anything for this.
Thanks
-Original Message-
From: Martin Byrne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Friday, March 15, 2002 10:05 AM
It won't hurt Exchange performance but will needlessly break any uptime
metrics.
There is one, count 'em, one difference between an offline and an online
defrag. The former moves the EOF, the latter does not.
- Original Message -
From: Ray Zorz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions
Their reasoning is to save disk space (there really is not a disk space
issue...9 GB store on a 40 GB drive for example)...and to speed up
backups.
-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 10:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:
I have a question that has been stumping me for the past week. We just brought up our
new Exchange 2000 server last weekend and I can't figure out why we can no longer type
in a last name or part of a last name and have Outlook 2000 resolve it from the GAL.
Exchange 5.5 would do this and many
Finally getting the hang of this.
I hate MS support site. The errors never match up.
Issue was SMTP service was really never started.
Showed started in Services but when attempting to reinstall E2K it gave me
an error, SMTP service not started.
Tried to restart service, could not.
Uninstalled
How much white space do you have in the databases (look for the 1221
events in your App log)?
--
From: paragon400
Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 12:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: eseutil /d
Their reasoning is to save
While their second argument is technically valid (backups treat whitespace
and used space the same), I would think that you wouldn't have much
whitespace to begin with.
Check the even logs to see just how much whitespace exists. On my 20+GB
databases, it tends to be less than a few megs. I'd ask
In the United States, I know of no case law which even suggests that there
is an unlimited right to privacy in a corporate environment. Every case
I've ever heard of has been decided that a company has the right to look at
emails on its own system.
If there is a corporate policy in place which
Do you have the request come by written or verbal? I never thought
about these consequences and now am wondering if I should ask for a
written request. I talked to HR and asked them to find out what I need
to do.
Thanks
-Original Message-
From: Wendel, Jesse [mailto:[EMAIL
Not really sure. Would that matter? Rich text using word or rich text
using outlook. Both the same right?
-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 11:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Conversion to Internet format
How are the names displayed in the list? FN LN
- Original Message -
From: Ray Beckwith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 2:02 PM
Subject: Exchange 2000, Outlook 2000 and Name Checking
I have a question that has been stumping me
Yes. They are displayed First Last.
Thanks...Ray
Quote of the day:
There are things that are so serious that you can only joke about them.
-- Werner Karl Heisenberg
-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15,
Word e-mail editor is evil. Trust me on this.
- Original Message -
From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: Conversion to Internet format failed
Not really sure. Would that matter? Rich
In that case they need to formulate an SLA on the permissable amount of
white space in the databases and use offline defrag to attain that SLA, not
just shotgun it.
- Original Message -
From: paragon400 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 15,
No they are very different. Word + outlook = PST, where PST=BAD!
--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Verio can Burn in hell, While Qwest.net can bite my ARSE
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Woodruff,
Michael
Sent: Friday, March
I have had the good fortune { to participate in offline defragmentation
lately.
Remind your colleagues that it is potentially destructive (welll it
could be).
Remind them that in some cases, it takes all night.
Are these colleagues people who know how exchange works??? And who told
them
I am SO going to enjoy this thread. :o)
-Original Message-
From: paragon400 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 9:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: eseutil /d
I have some team members here that believe that regular defragmentation
(offline) should be done as
With Exchange 5.5+ the database technology is a complete departure from
that technology used in Access or other .mdb files. This means that
there should be no interaction of components, at least in theory.
Joel
-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:
I do not totally agree with that statement though. Granddad or Jim McBee.
Otherwise, I would still be on Exchange5.5 sp2 (or WinGate or Postfix on
BSD) instead of Exchange2000 sp2. It's like the technical solutions /
behavioral problems quote. We use it when it fits.
That said, I am too
You are such a sick-o- My friend.
--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Verio can Burn in hell, While Qwest.net can bite my ARSE
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of William
Lefkovics
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 12:23 PM
To: Exchange
As am I :-)...I really am against doing offline defrags because I
really hate to even touch eseutil unless I have to. The people in
question are infrastructure guys (jack's of all trades...masters of
none). We did a defrag awhile back on a server because it's store had
grown to 50 GB when it
I remember that.
Mr Woodrick was pushing the envelope there. With the whitespace taken away,
Exchange would have to take back diskspace as the database began to grow
again. The resources required for that would likely not be noticeable. :o)
But of course he was correct.
William
;)
I seem to recall having to field this question when I was on the stage at
the Boston MEC. My responses now will be the same as they were then. IOW: no
real need unless you really WANT to.
- Original Message -
From: William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL
You will have to change the display name by running a script. They are
available on MS's site. Search for Display Names Change I think.
- Original Message -
From: Ray Beckwith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 2:49 PM
Subject: RE:
True, however I didn't do the service pac's because I thought it would
reduce my white space, or even decrease my backup times. I (as most of us?)
did/do the upgrades, service pac's, hot fixes, etc. for very specific
reasons. I get the should we be doing (insert your utility here) on a
Exchange 5.5 SP4, 10 Exchange servers, 1 site
Outlook 2000 clients
I was tasked with the following and need some help finding the answers.
I need to be assured that when an item is deleted from a mailbox, it is
really gone. We currently have the dumpster feature enabled which I plan to
So, what you are saying is, I can only search in the order the names are displayed.
Again I say, could Exchange 2000 be stupider than 5.5? In 5.5 we could search on any
string of characters anywhere in the name and it would resolve
Example to get Johan Sebastian Bach, I could simply type bast
Where was it send from and to? I guess the message is as gone as if you
deleted a file from your hard drive, generally less so.
Chris Scharff - MCSE, Exchange MVP 512.652.4500 x244
Senior Sales Engineer
For the most part it is gone, you might be able to recover it from a RAW
dump of HD or memory. You also need to look at the log files as they
house all of the data written to the store.
What are you trying to accomplish.
--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Verio can Burn in hell, While
Now there is a loaded question. The answer truly is it depends.
The message is (to my understanding) not really deleted and hence gone until
ALL pointers to that message in the IS are deleted. If the message exists in
one inbox, outbox, sent items or folder stored on the mail system then
Of course, knowing that everything I delete is permanently gone I will:
1. Never Delete (Ok, Mailbox Manager)
2. Forward Everything to an external account to save (Ok, Block replies to
the Internet)
3. Use a pst (Gotcha!)
4. Print it.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That does sound like my argument
First in looking at the arguments, it helps to understand what you are
arguing. Somewhat as stated, your team is right defragmentation should
be done on a regular basis. It reduces the number of extensions on
messages, but more importantly makes it faster
Since it's Friday.
If a tree falls in a forest...
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: If I delete an email is it really gone?
Exchange 5.5 SP4, 10 Exchange servers, 1 site
You are not going to be able to realize your quest.
First, don't turn off the dumpster, it saves butts many more times than
it burns them.
A) As our folks at Enron have found out, deleting a message is a long
way from destroying it. Once a message has been created, just assume
that it's there
The allocated space within the EDB file is marked available for overwrite,
just as when you delete a file off a hard drive. So yes, the data is still
there but all pointers to it have been removed. Given the dynamic nature of
Exchange's database technology it'll probably be overwritten fairly
Don't blame in on Exchange, it's and AD problem. Exchange no longer owns
user accounts.
-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Friday, March 15, 2002 3:59 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: Exchange 2000, Outlook 2000 and Name Checking
Point taken. Maybe I can find an answer searching the Windows KB. I keep forgetting
that Exchange is integrated into AD now.
Thanks...Ray
Quote of the day:
There are things that are so serious that you can only joke about them.
-- Werner Karl Heisenberg
I didn't see in the conversation, and I know you said backup later, but
their is the option on the server to not fully delete messages until backed
up.
In other words, even if you delete the message, empty deleted items, and
empty deleted item retention, the message is still retained until it
Thank you everyone.
Jeff Fantin
SRP - Office Software Support
Phone: 602-236-3547
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From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 3:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: If I delete an email is it really
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