[expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-21 Thread JoeHill
Hello, I am on a small internal LAN which does not use a Domain name or even have a DNS server, well, except for the router in a way I suppose. Anyway, I want to try to use my mailserver, simply called "localhost", to send mail out rather than my ISP's smtp server. Mainly a learning exercise, yo

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-21 Thread Praedor Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Using "sendmail" to send your email automatically will use postfix by default on your system. Postfix understands "sendmail". As for using "localhost", that may be fine for testing, and it will be the default if you haven't made any changes or nam

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-21 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:25:37 -0500 Praedor Atrebates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > I haven't messed with postfix for a while but you will be able to send > emails to individuals and newsgroups, etc, via postfix using > "localhost" or any other name you set but you wont be able to post to > thi

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-21 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Montag, 21. Juli 2003 22:18 schrieb JoeHill: > Hello, > > I am on a small internal LAN which does not use a Domain name or even > have a DNS server, well, except for the router in a way I suppose. > > Anyway, I want to try to use my mailserver, simply called "localhost", > to send mail out rathe

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-22 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 07:18:01 +0200 Martin Fahrendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > So, you may know that your server is save, but the rest of the wold > only may guess. And you are not able to give a guarantee. Your server > can not get prooven while changing the IP address. Point taken. Very go

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-22 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 06:48:07 -0500 stefmit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > I have the same setup at home (postfix for localhost, and dynamically > assigned address), and what I found out from some receiving > systems/ISPs was that they were rejecting my email not because of the > membership to a

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-22 Thread stefmit
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 12:18 am, Martin Fahrendorf wrote: > Am Montag, 21. Juli 2003 22:18 schrieb JoeHill: > > Hello, > > > > I am on a small internal LAN which does not use a Domain name or even > > have a DNS server, well, except for the router in a way I suppose. > > > > Anyway, I want to try

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-22 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Dienstag, 22. Juli 2003 13:48 schrieb stefmit: > On Tuesday 22 July 2003 12:18 am, Martin Fahrendorf wrote: > > Am Montag, 21. Juli 2003 22:18 schrieb JoeHill: > > > Hello, > > > ... > > I have the same setup at home (postfix for localhost, and dynamically > assigned address), and what I found o

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-22 Thread stefmit
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 07:08 am, JoeHill wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 06:48:07 -0500 > > stefmit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > I have the same setup at home (postfix for localhost, and dynamically > > assigned address), and what I found out from some receiving > > systems/ISPs was that they wer

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-22 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 06:28, Martin Fahrendorf wrote: > Am Dienstag, 22. Juli 2003 13:48 schrieb stefmit: > > On Tuesday 22 July 2003 12:18 am, Martin Fahrendorf wrote: > > > Am Montag, 21. Juli 2003 22:18 schrieb JoeHill: > > > > Hello, > > > > > ... > > > > I have the same setup at home (postfix

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-22 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Dienstag, 22. Juli 2003 20:56 schrieb James Sparenberg: > On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 06:28, Martin Fahrendorf wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 22. Juli 2003 13:48 schrieb stefmit: > > > On Tuesday 22 July 2003 12:18 am, Martin Fahrendorf wrote: > > > > Am Montag, 21. Juli 2003 22:18 schrieb JoeHill: > > > > >

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-22 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 22:04, Martin Fahrendorf wrote: > Am Dienstag, 22. Juli 2003 20:56 schrieb James Sparenberg: > > On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 06:28, Martin Fahrendorf wrote: > > > Am Dienstag, 22. Juli 2003 13:48 schrieb stefmit: > > > > On Tuesday 22 July 2003 12:18 am, Martin Fahrendorf wrote: > >

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-22 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 07:35 schrieb James Sparenberg: > On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 22:04, Martin Fahrendorf wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 22. Juli 2003 20:56 schrieb James Sparenberg: ... > > But on the other hand, if you have problems with one Mailserver how can > > you inform the server administrator

RE: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-22 Thread Frankie
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James Sparenberg > > > > I have the same setup at home (postfix for localhost, and dynamically > > > > assigned address), and what I found out from some receiving > > > > systems/ISPs was that they were reject

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-22 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 07:46 schrieb Frankie: > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James ... > > Don't doubt you on this ... but if you are feeling left out > ... I can > send you some of what we get *grin*. > > James > > ###

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-22 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 08:41 schrieb Martin Fahrendorf: > Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 07:46 schrieb Frankie: > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James > > ... > > > Don't doubt you on this ... but if you are feeling left out > > ...

RE: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Frankie
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Fahrendorf Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 08:41 schrieb Martin Fahrendorf: > Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 07:46 schrieb Frankie: > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PRO

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Joerg Mertin
Hi Martin, On Wednesday 23 July 2003 08:47, Martin Fahrendorf wrote: [...] > > The main problem with amavis and postfix is a missing feature in the > > current postfix version. You can not reject spam mails. So you lose ane > > defence line in your battle against spam. > > Oh, the main problem is

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 09:55 schrieb Joerg Mertin: > Hi Martin, > > On Wednesday 23 July 2003 08:47, Martin Fahrendorf wrote: > [...] > > > > The main problem with amavis and postfix is a missing feature in the > > > current postfix version. You can not reject spam mails. So you lose ane > > >

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Joerg Mertin
Hi Martin, thx for the hint. I might give it a try. However - what buzzes me here is that if you use the proxy method to identify spam - you have to get the spam anyway through it - don't you ? So - the spam will use your bandwidth to get analyzed by the "proxy" application - and the proxy appl

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 10:49 schrieb Joerg Mertin: > Hi Martin, > > thx for the hint. I might give it a try. > However - what buzzes me here is that if you use the proxy method to > identify spam - you have to get the spam anyway through it - don't you ? So > - the spam will use your bandwidth

RE: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Frankie
rilliant though. regards Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Fahrendorf Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2003 5:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail. Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 10:49 schrieb Joerg Mert

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Joerg Mertin
Hia there, so - actually - the new possibility with the Proxy sounds quite interesting, and are what I was looking for a long time now. Does anyone has some hints as what I'd need for it (which version of Postfix would be required), and some examples - on how to configure all that ? Of course -

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 04:59, Joerg Mertin wrote: > Hia there, > > so - actually - the new possibility with the Proxy sounds quite interesting, > and are what I was looking for a long time now. > > Does anyone has some hints as what I'd need for it (which version of Postfix > would be required),

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Luca Olivetti
Frankie wrote: If the spam get rejected they know that you don't accept the mail. It is up to the sending server to handle the rejection. OTOH, since spam detection mechanisms are not perfect (and black lists based ones are evil), rejecting means you can lose good emails, while with filtering yo

RE: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Frankie
ssage- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luca Olivetti Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2003 1:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail. Frankie wrote: > If the spam get rejected they know that you don't accept the > mail. It is

RE: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Frankie
ranki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James Sparenberg Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2003 1:07 AM To: Expert List Subject: Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail. On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 04:59, Joerg Mertin wrote: > Hia there, > > so - actually - the n

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Joerg Mertin
s > > Franki > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James > Sparenberg > Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2003 1:07 AM > To: Expert List > Subject: Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail. > > On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 04:5

RE: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Frankie
r users on "resending" or "redirecting" mail as opposed to forwarding it which changes the headers. regards Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joerg Mertin Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2003 5:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subje

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 19:10 schrieb Luca Olivetti: > Frankie wrote: > > If the spam get rejected they know that you don't accept the > > mail. It is up to > > the sending server to handle the rejection. > > OTOH, since spam detection mechanisms are not perfect (and black lists > based ones are

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread James Sparenberg
gt; > -Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James > > Sparenberg > > Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2003 1:07 AM > > To: Expert List > > Subject: Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail. > > > > On W

Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-24 Thread Pierre Fortin
On 23 Jul 2003 23:08:07 -0700 James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >One thing you could do.. it could be deadly if you get a lot of > e-mail via Outhook excess. Filter for and drop all html e-mail. God > knows it can be an extreme action, but in my case the amount of p0rn > spam and t