I received the following email from Ken Hassman:
Judy and m2smart492000,
I am only a lurker so I can't post directly and would be
happy for you to post this if you felt it was relevant.
One of my brothers, now 56 years of age, is bipolar and his
story with medication is a lot different than
is it possible to have good
meditations and be on anti-D's?
Wondering too if
any the buddhas at the gas pump might have insight
in their experience on this. Awakened while on
anti-D's? By experience. Would be helpful
in the community to know it could be okay.
I chatted about
Dear,
No one touted me as anything on the batgap list, it was me who declared that
to the list - if at all they were listening to my experiences and sharing
their experiences, opinions and cautioning me on the pitfalls - so this is a
completely false conclusion. And again I have just heard about
.
From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 5 June, 2010 1:25:45 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: AcediaFairfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail carc...@... wrote:
Yes, it was life threatening.
...and maybe still
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail carc...@... wrote:
Yes, it was life threatening.
...and maybe still is. The hospital let the young person
out this week. The hospital weaned the person from klonopin
over a week's time which I hear is not long enough time.
Then the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
I have no reason to believe that taking anti-depres-
sants is bad for one's spiritual progress. I have
a few friends whose spiritual well-being and sense
of balance skyrocketed after having them prescribed
for them.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
I have no reason to believe that taking anti-depres-
sants is bad for one's spiritual progress. I have
a few friends whose spiritual well-being and sense
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote:
Is it possible to be on anti-D's have nice
meditations? Anybody have experience with that?
Yes, but you need to be stable on them. What this
means is that when you start taking an SSRI (strategic
seratonin re-uptake
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodle...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Is it possible to be on anti-D's have nice
meditations? Anybody have experience with that?
Yes, but you need to be stable on them. What
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodle...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Is it possible to be on anti-D's have nice
meditations? Anybody have experience with that?
Yes, but you need to be stable on them. What this
means
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
The big question for us is why are so many people who
meditate regularly having to take mind altering drugs?
Or seeking other talk-based help. I say
TurquoiseB wrote:
These drugs are powerful psychotropics. They replace
or supplement the endorphins that allow us to feel
good -- about ourselves, about life, about everything.
But as far as I can tell from my limited reading,
the body is lazy, and when these endorphins are
supplied
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:
snip
They actually have little idea how these work but have some
effect mainly on raising the bottom line for pharmaceutical
companies. Lithium was brought up here
Bad example. Lithium is a naturally occurring substance
and
authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:
snip
They actually have little idea how these work but have some
effect mainly on raising the bottom line for pharmaceutical
companies. Lithium was brought up here
Bad example. Lithium is a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodle...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Is it possible to be on anti-D's have nice
meditations? Anybody
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:
authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
snip
They actually have little idea how these work but have some
effect mainly on raising the bottom line for pharmaceutical
Turq, thanks. Thoughtful and sensitive replies on the thread,
is it possible to have good
meditations and be on anti-D's?
Wondering now too if
any the buddhas at the gas pump might have insight
in their experience on this. Awakened while on
anti-D's? By experience. Would be helpful
in the
Does taking Anti-depressants preclude spiritual experience?
Just wondering given the recent experience of exulted experiences and suicide.
Exulted transcendental experiences and depressed. Does taking
anti-depressants also shut off the spiritual experience? Get in the way of
Is it possible to be on anti-D's have nice
meditations? Anybody have experience with that?
Does taking Anti-depressants preclude spiritual experience?
Just wondering given the recent experience of exulted experiences and
suicide.
Exulted transcendental experiences and
family.
There is nothing spiritual about clutching a knife and razors.
From: Buck dhamiltony...@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 8:35:34 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: AcediaFairfield
In the news
I was once married to someone who is bipolar and he has taken meds. for many
years.The crucial point to me was that the patient needs a really good
psychiatrist who can find the right medicine. There have been great advances in
medicine for depression and I'm sure that many of them do not hurt
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 no_re...@... wrote:
snip
With bipolar illness, a person may seem very enlightened with
the high (or is it manic depression?)...
Same illness, different terms for it.
Great post.
One thing's for sure, if a person is clinically depressed
My X manages his bipolar very well. Because we have kids together and it is
often inherited, we have educated them on the disease. He recently felt the
depression coming on again so he made an urgent appt with his doctor and his
meds were adjusted. His depression improved with the adjustment.
Sent: Fri, 4 June, 2010 3:11:30 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: AcediaFairfield
Xanax detox is a life threatening event, it must be done medically supervised.
One needs to be supervised as one winds down the dosage, there's really no two
ways about it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 no_re...@... wrote:
My X manages his bipolar very well. Because we have kids
together and it is often inherited, we have educated them
on the disease.
Oh, wow, that must not be real comfortable for any of
you, but you're doing just the right
Do you find that the prozac negatively affects your meditation or YFing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride
bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote:
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
IME the dark night is widely valued and promoted by this (and
In the news, a young person of the meditating community put an end to his
life this last week.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/34a3rnz
Does taking Anti-depressants preclude spiritual experience?
Just wondering given the recent experience of exulted experiences and suicide.
Exulted
. It is usually the answer to the
friend's family.
There is nothing spiritual about clutching a knife and razors.
From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 8:35:34 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: AcediaFairfield
Oh, and BTW...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
snip
I'm seeing more of the echo chamber effect I
wrote about earlier, back when Ravi was being
touted as the latest realized being by this
*same* group of discerning seers.
From an earlier post of Barry's:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of authfriend
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 9:21 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia Fairfield
Oh, and BTW...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife
On Jun 2, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
The reason I booted Ravi from BatGap is that there are different ground rules
there than here. Almost anything is tolerated here. It's like a boxing match
as opposed to a tea party. I expect more cordial behavior over there, and if
someone
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:45 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia Fairfield
On Jun 2, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
The reason I
Vaj:
But believe me core TB's believe you have
so much ama collecting in your synapses you'd
need PK just to resume some normalcy from the
disease that you use the Prozac for...
Introducing Pranic Healing Methods she says,
Western allopatic medicine holds to the view that
disease is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
Buck wrote:
Actually, does anybody remember what Charlie Lutes said about
suicide? His stories.
I seem to remember Charlie talking about how
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
snip
I perceive a real danger in the *myth* about
enlightenment that says it's a state in which one's
very thoughts and perceptions and decisions and
actions are reflections of The Truth.
Believing that is true to some
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Buck
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 10:51 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia Fairfield
Different story. A friend here re-tells
hearing Charlie Lutes getting a phone call
Test (posting)
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Archer
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 9:11 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia Fairfield
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
On May 30, 2010, at 2:40 PM, It's just a ride wrote:
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote:
IME the dark night is widely valued and promoted by this (and other FF)
groups. However it was never clear if the people who had 'passed thru their
dark night of
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote:
*From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Buck
*Sent:* Monday, May 31, 2010 10:51 PM
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of It's just a ride
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 7:24 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia Fairfield
I always wondered why everyone took Charlie Lutes so seriously. He
Was a large memorial today. 400 or so people. Lots of folks as speakers.
Lots of very heady speechifying and spiritual reflection. Lots heady and some
common grief. Only a couple speakers saying the suicide is unacceptable. One
of them was from the MUM President's Office, a guy who knew
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote:
Was a large memorial today. 400 or so people. Lots of folks as speakers.
Lots of very heady speechifying and spiritual reflection. Lots heady and
some common grief. Only a couple speakers saying the suicide is
How should a community be supporting people 20-30
years old to keep them from committing suicide? IOW,
how has Fairfield been failing them?
Regardless of age grouping,
Two things, as I ask around.
One is cultural, they (the TM movement) don't teach much by way of ethics
generally.
Mostly
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote:
In to that vein, the TM movement programs were never set up
to really accommodate. Hence it is not really a place to
safely talk about personal issues if you would like to
participate. In design, the school and programs
Yesterday morning, it was all, I feel your pain, let it
all hang out, I won't rag on you, this isn't a platform
from which to score points.
This morning...not so much.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote:
How should a community be supporting people 20-30
years old to keep them from committing suicide? IOW,
how has Fairfield been failing them?
Regardless of age grouping,
Two things, as I ask around.
Doesn't really answer
I don't see it that way at all. That fact of the matter is, that we know a lot
more now, than we did 24 hours ago. And there is no impugning of the deceased
or his family. More just the the circumstances and environment surrounding his
death, as I see it. Hopefully in this way, his death
On May 30, 2010, at 9:22 PM, seventhray1 wrote:
Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote:
And also along these lines, I found this link on Rick's
chat group:
http://rorygoff.com/open/the-observatory/dan-swartz/
Thanks for posting this. This was helpful is seeing who he was, hearing him
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sun...@... wrote:
I don't see it that way at all. That fact of the matter is,
that we know a lot more now, than we did 24 hours ago. And
there is no impugning of the deceased or his family.
Right, just, in this case, impugning Edg and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
I think you're right, he was a talker. We tried talking a couple of
times, but I found he took himself not only way too seriously, but he
jumped to the wildest conclusions about his own inner states and was
quick to claim the most
Ok, I'm going to take a step that may cross a line I probably oughten cross.
Edg just posted something on BATGAP where he hints, that had he had more
information on Daniel, he might have reigned in his exchanges with him a
little. Or that's how I interpet it.
For me, when I read his
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
wrote:
I don't see it that way at all. That fact of the matter is,
that we know a lot more now, than we did 24 hours ago. And
there is no impugning of the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sun...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
wrote:
I don't see it that way at all. That fact of the matter is,
that we know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
Dan was special -- way wise beyond his age. Not that he was
a guru one would seek, but that it was he who sought -- sought
hearts to engage -- and pushed
This puts a lot of things in perspective for me.
Thanks
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
Dan was special -- way wise
Edg, since you have taken upon yourself the mantle of
being the chronicler of Daniels' life, please repost
for us the instances on BATBAP in which he said some-
thing a little off and was called on it by other
forum participants, including yourself. Thanks in
advance.
--- In
I'll do this, but it'll take some slogging. I've got some other stuff first to
do, but it's on my list.
Edg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
Edg, since you have taken upon yourself the mantle of
being the chronicler of Daniels' life, please repost
for
Buck wrote:
Actually, does anybody remember what Charlie Lutes said about suicide?
His stories.
I seem to remember Charlie talking about how suicide is looked upon as a
bad thing in Indian philosophy but if suffering from cancer he could see
why a person my want a way out.
In Indian
Here's an exchange that shows that Dan and David and manoj_menon had some
challenging dynamics.
From Dan:
Re: Where I'm At
For what it's worth, in my experience witnessing IS a predecessor to
Enlightenment. But I don't want to say that it HAS to be that way, because I
don't know. Witnessing
Just a quickie -- here's David confronting Ravi -- it's not a Dan example,
but it shows how BATGP was not just a push over for all claims.
Edg
--- In buddhaatthegasp...@yahoogroups.com, David dfb...@... wrote:
Hi Ravi
Sorry, but those are the words of an addict. Under stating, long term,
We all need to realize that we are all to be held
accountable for anything we say that Barry disagrees
with.
(The reverse, of course, is not the case.)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:
I'll do this, but it'll take some slogging. I've got some other stuff
On May 31, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Duveyoung wrote:
Lack of ego (i.e. disppearance of the individual) seems to come as a natural
result on getting clear about the relationship between onself and the
infinite.
Witnessing seems to be an initial stage of that, which blossoms into the whole
picture.
On May 31, 2010, at 9:12 AM, seventhray1 wrote:
Pretty much the only perspective you're getting from BATGAP is that a
great luminary has left the scene. And that if only I knew . And
yet evidently he did talk to others about his problems. But of course,
I don't think it is easy for anyone
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:
Buck wrote:
Actually, does anybody remember what Charlie Lutes said about suicide?
His stories.
I seem to remember Charlie talking about how suicide is looked upon as a
bad thing in Indian philosophy but if
Can you provide a link?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote:
On May 31, 2010, at 9:12 AM, seventhray1 wrote:
Pretty much the only perspective you're getting from BATGAP is that a
great luminary has left the scene. And that if only I knew . And
yet
http://www.facebook.com/diswartz2
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sun...@... wrote:
Can you provide a link?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
On May 31, 2010, at 9:12 AM, seventhray1 wrote:
Pretty much the only
On May 31, 2010, at 3:45 PM, seventhray1 wrote:
Can you provide a link?
http://bit.ly/bdB1Ym
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote:
On May 31, 2010, at 9:12 AM, seventhray1 wrote:
Pretty much the only perspective you're getting from BATGAP is that a
So my question was more, what can *any* community be
said to have failed to do to keep its adult members
from committing suicide? Is that even a community's
responsibility?
Or perhaps, is the TMO/MUM ethos so powerful that it
afflicts the *entire* Fairfield community, including
those
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:
Buck wrote:
Actually, does anybody remember what Charlie Lutes said about suicide?
His stories.
I seem to remember Charlie talking about how suicide is looked upon as a
bad thing in Indian philosophy but if suffering
In the news, a young person of the meditating community put an end to his
life this last week.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/34a3rnz
From the end of the earth I call;
My heart is faint.
-Psalm 61:13
`Tristitia' seems to be a sadness caused
by adversity and trial in social
In the news, a young person of the meditating community put an end to his
life this last week.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/34a3rnz
From the end of the earth I call;
My heart is faint.
-Psalm 61:13
`Tristitia' seems to be a sadness caused
by adversity and trial
Rest in peace, dearest Daniel. I am so sad for your family. God bless.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote:
In the news, a young person of the meditating community put an end to his
life this last week.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/34a3rnz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote:
I knew Daniel well and have a little different take than some
others. this is what my perception was knowing what was going on.
Had I known the last 2 months he told so many people his pain was
too great and he was
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
I knew Daniel well and have a little different take than some
others. this is what my perception was knowing what was going on.
Had I known the last 2
I have been following a thread at Buddha at the Gas Pump, but as nothing was
posted here, I didn't want to comment. I do know his parents, or at least who
they are. I did not want to register at the Fairfield Ledger, so if someone
could post the full obituary, it would be appreciated.
Daniel
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote:
FW;
I knew Daniel well and have a little different take than some others.
this is what my perception was knowing what was going on. Had I known
the last 2 months he told so many people his pain was too great and he
was thinking
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
I knew Daniel well and have a little different take than some
I'm trying to grasp this, trying to get this to gel, but even these few words
here have me bawling. I never knew Dan personally, but I spent a couple
hundred hours writing to him, and that part of me cannot but weep and my breath
right now is coming in heaves. Rick asked me to pick some of
On May 30, 2010, at 8:26 AM, Buck wrote:
In the news, a young person of the meditating community put an end to his
life this last week.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/34a3rnz
From the end of the earth I call;
My heart is faint.
-Psalm 61:13
`Tristitia'
Thanks for the reply. People keep referring to his pain, saying they didn't
realize how intense it was. I wonder what the pain is they are referring to.
Some comments on the other site also attempt to put the suicide in the
perspective that he was needed elsewhere. I don't know if I buy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sun...@... wrote:
Thanks for the reply. People keep referring to his pain, saying
they didn't realize how intense it was. I wonder what the pain
is they are referring to.
Some comments on the other site also attempt to put the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sun...@... wrote:
Thanks for the reply. People keep referring to his pain, saying they didn't
realize how intense it was. I wonder what the pain is they are referring to.
Some comments on the other site also attempt to put the
On May 30, 2010, at 8:09 AM, seventhray1 wrote:
I have been following a thread at Buddha at the Gas Pump, but as nothing was
posted here, I didn't want to comment. I do know his parents, or at least
who they are. I did not want to register at the Fairfield Ledger, so if
someone could
On May 30, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Buck wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sun...@... wrote:
Thanks for the reply. People keep referring to his pain, saying they didn't
realize how intense it was. I wonder what the pain is they are referring to.
Some
...how responsible are Rick and Thom
themselves with this young man for
this outcome?
Vaj:
Hopefully this will be a wake up call
of a different kind for these groups that
pretend to dispense wisdom, but instead
delve in an area where they really have
little expertise.
You
On May 30, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
This is at least the third in 1.5 years here.
We are failing our young people.
Along those lines, Rick, did anyone in your
group ever suggest, either to the group or
privately to you--that Daniel might be going
through something a bit more
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: AcediaFairfield
On May 30, 2010, at 8:26 AM, Buck wrote:
In the news, a young person of the meditating community put an end to his
life this last week.
http://preview. tinyurl.com/ 34a3rnz
From the end of the earth I call;
My heart
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Buck
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 10:09 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia Fairfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote:
IME the dark night is widely valued and promoted by this (and other FF)
groups. However it was never clear if the people who had 'passed thru their
dark night of the soul' (and then promoted such experiences as valuable
Ok, one other question. In way manner did he end his life?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
Thanks for the reply. People keep referring to his pain, saying they
didn't realize
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
The issue nailed in the quote Buck posted is an inter-
esting one to ponder in my opinion. If you've outed
yourself as enlightened, and thus associated yourself
with many of the *myths* about enlightenment I've been
Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote:
This is at least the third in 1.5 years here.
We are failing our young people.
Ok, going out on a limb here. I knew Fred from my days at MIU. Always enjoyed
interacting with him, the little that I did. He was an instructor. But he
never struck me as
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:
I wish I had been in a position to be more responsible. He hadn't been
to
the meetings in several weeks, which was unusual for him. The last
time I
went, I asked where he was, and someone said he was going through a
lot.
I've
This is at least the third in 1.5 years here.
We are failing our young people.
Sal
I would hope they are pulling professionals
in to the schools (MSAE MUM) by first class after this
weekend. Dr. Pete?
On May 30, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Buck wrote:
This is at least the third in 1.5 years here.
We are failing our young people.
Sal
I would hope they are pulling professionals
in to the schools (MSAE MUM) by first class after this
weekend. Dr. Pete?
The public schools have long since had
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote:
On May 30, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Buck wrote:
This is at least the third in 1.5 years here.
We are failing our young people.
I would hope they are pulling professionals
in to the schools (MSAE MUM) by first class
exulted mentally ill,,
FW,,
paste
I think a lot of people are shocked and confused esp the young people here.
Wondering if suicide is a okay method to move on, if things are rough. Rick
Archer gave this moving talk of love about the depth of Daniel's exp and with
all the talk of how he was
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FW;
I knew Daniel well and have a little different take than some others. this
is what
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I have been following a thread at Buddha at the Gas Pump, but as nothing
On May 30, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
FW;
I knew Daniel well and have a little different take than some others. this
is what my perception was knowing what was going on. Had I known the last 2
months he told so many people his pain was too great and he was thinking of
killing
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