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Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Different experience of dying ignorant or
enlightened
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 11, 2011, 3:01 PM
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On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tom Pall thomas.pall
Imagine presenting this idea to the doctors at The
Harvard Medical Schoolor to Socratesor to Wittgenstein...
Within this great rap on what I would sum up as the oversold experience of the
Transcendent by Maharishi and followers (Gets the stains out AND gives you
eternal consciousness!) is a point about one of my heroes.
Robin:
RESPONSE: Yes. This was an extraordinary insight that Socrates got: *That
Nice.
--- On Fri, 8/12/11, whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Different experience of dying ignorant or
enlightened
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 12, 2011, 6:17 AM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:
Robin,
As always, thank you for taking the time. In my world you're
definitely the top of the muffin.Â
For your viewing pleasure the only thing the movement needed more of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WCcKIkMp8Y
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , maskedzebra no_reply@...
wrote:
snip
The Oracle at Delphi (I choose to interpret this
symbolically, even though I am sure the O at D
was really tuned in) was saying that Socrates
occupies a particular and privileged
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , maskedzebra no_reply@...
wrote:
snip
The Oracle at Delphi (I choose to interpret this
symbolically, even though I am sure the O at D
was really tuned in) was saying that Socrates
occupies a particular and privileged
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote:
When I die I want to come back as one of Yifu's posts, they are the closest
thing to fairy dust we have on FFL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YmxY7V-3Qs
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote:
When I die I want to come back as one of Yifu's posts, they are the
closest thing to fairy dust we have on FFL.
:01:38 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Different experience of dying ignorant or
enlightened
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote:
When I die I want to come back as one of Yifu's
thomas.p...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Different experience of dying ignorant or
enlightened
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 11, 2011, 3:01 PM
On Thu, Aug 11
and of course:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXDm5x7tVjg
From: Tom Pall thomas.pall@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:01:38 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Different experience of dying ignorant or
enlightened
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:
I'm sorry this post had to end. It says trunkated at the bottom.
Absorbing.
FWIW, it's not truncated on the FFL Web site. Took me a good
minute to delete it from this post.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
Whoa hold on there Robin, in your hurry to attack M you don't seem
to
have paid much attention - I didn't hear anyone or Hinduism say that
that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote:
Masked Zebra responds to seventhray1:
When I skimmed the
birthchart. Perhaps some of our astrologers here would have an opinion on this ?
--- On Thu, 8/4/11, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Different experience of dying ignorant or
enlightened
To: FairfieldLife
Nabs
Nothing to know. It is called derealization and is
a well documented mental/psychological change.
Get it? It is an uncontrolled reversal of mental fixations.
It often goes together with depersonalization.
Wiki if you need to get a start on a definition.
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
A few hours of dying, having the senses removed and all that, especially if
you are habituated to loosing everything during real meditations anyway is
nothing compared to having to spend 9 months in a dark and damp
In a nutshell, what Maharishi said is that it is the transition after death
that is rougher for someone whose nervous system has not been practiced at
transcending. Once that transition (supposedly about 3 days) from having a
body to not having a body is over, the soul does whatever it does.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
A few hours of dying, having the senses removed and all that, especially if
you are habituated to loosing everything during real meditations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote:
Masked Zebra responds to seventhray1:
When I skimmed the post regarding Maharishi's talk about dying, it rekindled
the feeling I had that drew me into this knowledge.
BlahBlah, snip, BlahBlah, more snip.
Robin,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote:
Masked Zebra responds to seventhray1:
When I skimmed the post regarding Maharishi's talk about dying, it rekindled
the feeling I had that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote:
snip
If, as Maharishi says, one can dispense with the agony of
death through getting identified with transcendental
consciousness, why should it not be conceivable in principle
to do the same thing when one is getting
Doesn't sound like you are a candidate for being born again :)
--- On Thu, 8/4/11, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Different experience of dying ignorant or
enlightened
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote:
snip
Re: Different experience of dying ignorant or enlightened
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote:
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If, as Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noah wayback71@... wrote:
In a nutshell, what Maharishi said is that it is the transition after death
that is rougher for someone whose nervous system has not been practiced at
transcending. Once that transition (supposedly about 3 days) from having
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@... wrote:
Doesn't sound like you are a candidate for being born again :)
Did you read my post ?
Thougt so !
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 4:20 PM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote:
The different experience of dying by the ignorant and the enlightened by
Maharishi
Another opinion:
BlahBlahBlah
Why use so many
thx, I believe (as a speculative hypothesis based on my limited psychic
abilities...pending further corroboration); that MMY has been torn to countless
pieces by Kali, and unlike some of the pieces coming back together (as in the
Terminator movie), they are permanently torn asunder and
Thank you for the explanationNOWwith regard to these three dayshere
is Dave Matthews take - solo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J8aAt4PaDk
--- On Thu, 8/4/11, noah waybac...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: noah waybac...@yahoo.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Different experience of dying
Or...with the full band
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lS4EoTY1nQ
--- On Thu, 8/4/11, Denise Evans dmevans...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Denise Evans dmevans...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Different experience of dying ignorant or
enlightened
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Thank you for your reply. I read it all, slowly. First of all, one
point you bring up makes sense. Or at least makes sense in helping to
understand your perspective. Many people view the birth and life of
Christ as THE BIG EVENT, apart from the different Saviors who are said
to have came
as a speculative hypothesis based on my limited psychic
abilities...pending further corroboration
Just stick to your copy and pasting links from Google Images. Anything
beyond that seems to be too disconcerting for you.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote:
thx, I
disconcerting? no. Ravi, I like your essays; but a times you remind me of a
stop light flashing non-authorized colors besides the usual red, green, and
amber. Seems you make up your own colors at times, but I like it! Keep it up...
http://www.feebleminds-gifs.com/sci9.jpg
--- In
Very nice post Bob. You've articulated many of the things I have sensed
and wanted to voice as well.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:
Robin,
Thank you for your response. I'm always impressed with the care you
put into your posts. Whether this will be
The different experience of dying by the ignorant and the enlightened by
Maharishi
Another opinion:
MMY: When an ordinary man leaves his body it's a very great pain. When a
realized man leaves the body it's the experience of greatest happiness-bliss.
RESPONSE: Wrong. Maharishi has no
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote:
The different experience of dying by the ignorant and the enlightened by
Maharishi
Another opinion:
MMY: When an ordinary man leaves his body it's a very great pain. When a
realized man leaves the body it's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote:
The different experience of dying by the ignorant and the enlightened
by Maharishi
Another opinion:
MMY: When an ordinary man leaves his body it's a very great pain. When
a realized man leaves the body it's the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra
no_reply@... wrote:
Imagine presenting this idea to the doctors at The
Harvard Medical Schoolor to Socratesor to Wittgenstein...
Here you go again RC - coercing those Western big guns into
your hockey team. (Why do you try to do that?).
MMY: When an ordinary man leaves his body it's a very great pain. When a
realized man leaves the body it's the experience of greatest happiness-bliss.
maskedzebra: Wrong. Maharishi has no direct or verifiable knowledge of this.
Yet another opinion:
Hi maskedzebra (I am assuming Grevy's...),
MZ,
You have not offered a differing explanation. You have only provided a
commentary from a competing theology. Above all, you seem unaware of the
theological history behind your selected theology.
What's next
the Sin-Guilt-Redemption dialectic of Western
Christianity? Or
Our Ransom was
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote:
RESPONSE: Transcending in TM, does it mean the actual individual flesh and
bones human being stops existing? What possible relevance does transcending
in TM have to do with dying
Transcending is 'conscious' dying,
...when you die the anguish
can be greater than the stings
of thousands of scorpions.
~~ Guru Dev [MMY's teacher, Shankaracharya Swami Brahmananda Saraswati]
This teaching [extended below] from Guru Dev is likely where Maharishi
got the idea that death [separation from the body upon its
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote:
The different experience of dying by the ignorant and the enlightened by
Maharishi
Another opinion:
BlahBlahBlah
Why use so many words ? All you had to say is Maharishi was an ignorant clown
and I know much
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:
Whoa hold on there Robin, in your hurry to attack M you don't seem to
have paid much attention - I didn't hear anyone or Hinduism say that
that the Self dies, it is the body that dies anywhere :-). And yes what
they were
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra
no_reply@ wrote:
Imagine presenting this idea to the doctors at The
Harvard Medical Schoolor to Socratesor to Wittgenstein...
Here you go again RC - coercing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:
MMY: When an ordinary man leaves his body it's a very great pain. When a
realized man leaves the body it's the experience of greatest happiness-bliss.
maskedzebra: Wrong. Maharishi has no direct or verifiable knowledge
Everyone leaves here, even Maharishi, but he left so much behind that it can
occupy you for a long time if you like. Also, if you want a relationship with
him, talk to him. After all, if you can miss him, you know where he is.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@...
Well this is kind of interesting. When I skimmed the post regarding
Maharishi's talk about dying, it rekindled the feeling I had that drew
me into this knowledge. When you say that we get wowed by these
tidbits, I can relate to that. I was wowed by Maharishi for just this
sort of thing for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote:
The different experience of dying by the ignorant and the enlightened by
Maharishi
Another opinion:
MMY: When an ordinary man
Nice reminder, that alone is worth $35.00 :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
The different experience of dying by the ignorant and the enlightened.
Maharishi:
When an ordinary man leaves his body it's a very great pain. When a realized
man leaves the
...he's always ready to die. Doesn't matter what. Always ready to die means:
he is not ready to DIE, but he doesn't mind dying anytime.
This is a helpful distinction. I don't fear death, actually see it more
accurately as passing on, and yet I haven't understood the distinction before
of being
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