Re: [Finale] TAN: HP 5000 tips wanted, esp. Mac

2007-10-19 Thread verngraham
Johannes: I have the same printer (5000N) hooked up to my G5. If you have only 5000 pages used, you can be reassured that I have over 80, on mine and the only thing I have replaced (beside the toner cartridge) is the Fuser unit last year ($250.00 USD). It still  works like a champ.  If you

[Finale] Creating Loading Libraries Mac2K6

2007-09-12 Thread verngraham
Hello to the list! I have been struggling with unexpected behavior in Mac Fin2K6 when customizing, saving and loading libraries (from within Fin2K6 docs). I spent hours refining all my articulations, expressions, shapes, etc., programming the metatools (key assignments) and then saving it as a

Re: [Finale] Finale GPO

2007-09-12 Thread verngraham
You are having the same problem I was having when I installed Fin2K7 on my Mac; I still had installed (and was still using) Fin 2k6, and something in the installation of 2K7 screwed with the registration for each app, because whichever version I used last seemed to be overwriting the

Re: [Finale] RE: Size

2007-08-24 Thread verngraham
If all else fails, go to the menu where you set up the Page Layout for Parts/Score (not under the File menu; I'm at work and can't remember which menu this falls under; it's the same one as you find Document Options), set all the parameters for the Score, then peform a  Redefine All Pages which

Re: [Finale] JABB update for K2, Garritan Wiki

2007-08-20 Thread verngraham
For those of us still using MacFin2K6, will any of these upgrades work for us? I should note that I only just now realized that in addition to JABB, there is also a K2 Player GPO update. There was an earlier K2 Player GPO update (released in the spring), which I already have installed,

Re: [Finale] Stopping tie spillover

2007-08-17 Thread verngraham
As I remember (on Mac FInale) you can select the 2nd ending note you want to apply a backwards tie to and press option and = keys simultaneoulsy. On Aug 16, 2007, at 11:03 PM, Richard Huggins wrote: Problem: stopping a tie that is at the end of first ending from appearing at the start

[Finale] OT: disk restore/un-erase

2007-08-02 Thread verngraham
Anyone who has any idea how I can UN-ERASE my secondary internal 300GB hard disk in my pre-Intel MAC G5 2.0 Ghz, OS 10.4.6, please advise. I thought I was erasing a CD-RW this morning to copy new files to, but in fact I mistakenly selected my Media Disk (used for streaming my audio files

Re: [Finale] OT: disk restore/un-erase

2007-08-02 Thread verngraham
I took a trip to the local Apple Store (Providence Mall) and one of the techs said to check my Trash; the files may still be there. (otherwise he recommended a 3rd party product; thank you all for your suggestions). The question I didn't think to ask him (until after I left, naturally) was, the

Re: [Finale] OT: disk restore/un-erase

2007-08-02 Thread verngraham
Tahnks Eric; unfortunately, it's much more than the library files for Garritan; all the Finale wav files that were loaded into Soundtrack to do the mixing and create final demos lived there, and there was over 2 hours of music there, and to re-save as all those would represent hundreds of

Re: [Finale] Re: Hiding stems

2007-02-26 Thread verngraham
Until last year, I was still using Fin2K2 and had no problem using the Special Tools Stem Shape (?) tool to apply a blank shape (from the shape designer) to the stems. You can not use the tool that shortens length (which looks like a normal quarter note), you need the tool that looks like a wacky

Re: [Finale] MULTIMEASURE catastrophe

2007-02-26 Thread verngraham
Has anyone on this list come up with any clear advantages to even having a Linked Parts feature? I understand if you make some revisions (accidentals, etc.) in the score it updates the parts behind the scenes, but if you insert or delete measures, change endings repeats, or make any extensive

Re: [Finale] TAN: burner

2007-02-26 Thread verngraham
It means dey on FIRE, man! Usually indicates breakneck speed coupled with highly aggressive virtuostic performance. nuff said? Sorry for the off-topic post, but I know there are many fine jazz musicians here, so I figure it's the best place to ask. Can anyone tell me what burner means in

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2007c Playback Level Too High

2007-02-23 Thread verngraham
As I have been doing almost nothing with Finale for the past year but trying to get a handle on the Garritan/Finale experience, here's my take. (Yes; there is a master fader on the Mixer; see under the View menu) A lot of the problem I found with balance and levels is in the creation of the Finale

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2007c Playback Level Too High

2007-02-23 Thread verngraham
Please: can we all arrange to have a sit down meeting with Gary, whomever is the power at MakeMusic, and a rep from NI and testify to what is need to propel this method of composing and creating digital realizations to the absolute top of the mountain? The potential is astounding, and much can be

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2007c Playback Level Too High

2007-02-23 Thread verngraham
Johannes: I have to agree; it was a unenlightened suggestion; as you say, more living room stuff is not what's needed, but a serious professional high end FUNCTIONING system would be brilliant and without equal. On 23.02.2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (I already told MakeMusic they should start

Re: Re(2): [Finale] FinMac 2007c Playback Level Too High

2007-02-23 Thread verngraham
I never took 2K6 off the machine, and I didn't uninstall 2K7 as I intend to start installing the revs until I can get it to work well, but there's no way to rescue your 2K7 docs and get them to open in Fin 2K6, as far as I know. I don't think saving in 2K7 as an ETF file will work either. Anyone

Re: [Finale] Finale 2005, 2004 can't be registered on Intel Macs

2007-02-23 Thread verngraham
I also do not understand why MakeMusic refused to sell the 2K6 upgrade to a registered Finale user who did not want to migrate to 2K7 yet, but needed to get up to 2K6 to collaborate with me on a potentially long term project: and this was in September, 2006 just after the pre-release of 2K7. This

Re: [Finale] no time signature

2007-02-22 Thread verngraham
If I'm not mistaken, you cannot eliminate the time sig but you can choose to not show it using the measure tool (measure attributes). this was posted to an organist group todayI went thru a couple of trap doors but not very many to see what if?.. any ideas on this from

Re: [Finale] F2K7 no standard playback setup

2007-02-21 Thread verngraham
Hi David; Yeah, well I guess the sky will always be falling in bits and pieces, I'm just saying someone should be minding the store and doing what they can to help people attain some degree of coherence in their world. Literacy isn't limited to winning spelling bee's or being able to rattle off a

Re: [Finale] END to Muzak links enclosed

2007-02-21 Thread verngraham
She does seem to have a bias against rock, or at least the decibels of it; but I couldn't delete the text and only include the text that I thought pertinent (re: acquired deafness due to saturation viewpoint) and have it make sense. I never suggested that the style of music has anything to do with

[Finale] Re: OT more muzak discussion

2007-02-21 Thread verngraham
Andrew: I will spell it out for you: I understand Pavlov's experiment. They bells combined with the feeding caused their minds to expect food when they hear a bell, hence the behavior of salivation. My analogy is not perfect, but the if the constant overexposure to music causes us to

Re: [Finale] Muzak (tm); was F2K7 no standard playback setup

2007-02-21 Thread verngraham
JOHN: Brilliant summary and comments; thank you. I have interjected a few short bits below. At 8:42 AM -0500 2/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: by the way, I sent some interesting links to sites that are devoted to eliminating (or at least controlling) muzak and other noise pollution to the

Re: [Finale] Re: OT more muzak discussion

2007-02-21 Thread verngraham
Hey DAVID: I'm with you. I can handle the silence. As I said earlier, it seems that nowadays, when there's silence, panic ensues (or non-essential babble; oh, yes; the beige is perfect!). It's reminds me of what I remember hearing from a theatrical director when he said you can't leave an audience

Re: spam [Finale] very TAN; APOLOGY DUE and enclosed

2007-02-20 Thread verngraham
Not the 4 chord, silly; Intravenous (IV's, as in intensive care. Speaking of which, do they play muzak in the ER, too?) But, the IV chord can be a marvelous thing, as long as it's loaded with non-diatonic tensions! (or just apply a liberal dose of the MixoLocrian scale from the root a perfect

Re: spam [Finale] very TAN; APOLOGY DUE and enclosed

2007-02-20 Thread verngraham
Did someone spike the punch this guy is drinking? Music can cease to be soul food if you are having it fed to you on IV's 24/7. Yes, I agree. I have often maintained that overuse of the IV chord makes everything sound real bland. 8-) Christopher not to mention the utter incompatibility of

Re: spam [Finale] very TAN

2007-02-20 Thread verngraham
When I find the smoking gun, I'll send it to you. This is a gut feeling based on what I have seen and heard during the past 30 years as a writer and performer. Just a quick recall of the bells and Pavlov's dogs should illustrate what happens with repeated stimulus; If they salivate whenever they

Re: [Finale] F2K7 no standard playback setup

2007-02-20 Thread verngraham
The reason I believe the literacy level has dropped dramatically is my experience as an office temp for many years and seeing the bad grammar, misspelled words, limited vocabulary and lack of coherence in the thought processes of people my own age (54) and younger. The younger they get, the worse

[Finale] END to Muzak links enclosed

2007-02-20 Thread verngraham
I don't know if there will ever be an end to Muzak, but there's some rays of light here. http://www.noisefree.org/links.php http://nomuzak.co.uk/links.html Portion of interview with Dame Gillian Wier, organist, from a conversation about muzak…and other bothersome noise issues

Re: [Finale] F2K7 no standard playback setup

2007-02-20 Thread verngraham
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason I believe the literacy level has dropped dramatically is my experience as an office temp for many years and seeing the bad grammar, misspelled words, limited vocabulary and lack of coherence in the thought processes of people my own age (54) and younger.

Re: [Finale] F2K7 no standard playback setup

2007-02-19 Thread verngraham
Buy several automatic weapons, drive to MakeMusic and sit outside their front door armed to the teeth until someone takes notice. I have abandoned Finale 2K7 until I read some positive feedback about the yet to be released fixes, which allow the software to work as advertised. (or at least as

Re: [Finale] Scores without barlines

2007-02-19 Thread verngraham
Two questions: 1) When engraving a score that doesn't use barlines, what's the best way to ensure that the invisible barlines don't affect spacing (other than making each score system a single measure)? They will still affect the spacing somewhat because of the defaults you can change

Re: [Finale] International Phonetic Alphabet

2007-02-19 Thread verngraham
Darcy- I had some problems trying to load some Postscript 1 type fonts into my G5 when I got it and found a utility at one of the font houses/manufacturers which helps correct some strange behavior that occurs with Mac on sys 10.x, I'm going to have to dig to find out where i got it, as I am not a

Re: [Finale] LINKED parts/score, bars numbers

2007-02-19 Thread verngraham
My shock at the new parts management window in Fin2K7 led me to a series of gaffs the first time I used it, so here is what I would suggest to get the deisred result. I had used the Extract parts feature, and in doing so used the Create Parts feature. When I got to the folder where I had directed

Re: spam [Finale] very TAN

2007-02-19 Thread verngraham
The whole issue of this incessant ongoing external stimulation addiction that has been epidemic in US culture for the past several generations is killing all the arts and ultimately depriving the every day average person from having any kind of truly spiritual artistic experience. If you are

Re: [Finale] Mensurstriche

2007-02-19 Thread verngraham
I've forgotten the exact sequence, but you can change the definitions/preferences for the desired group in scroll view (after you've done your score layouts and optimized ALL), then go to PAGE VIEW for the system you want to see the change occur and Un-optimize then re-optimize ONLY THAT SYSTEM.

Re: [Finale] F2K7 no standard playback setup

2007-02-19 Thread verngraham
I have posted multiple emails to several people at MakeMusic (including Director of Quality Assurance) and to the tech support pages with multiple reports, etc. They are soon going to hate me over there. But, the upside (I think) is that the Dir. of Quality Assurance has responded to my request to

Re: [Finale] LINKED parts/score, bars numbers

2007-02-19 Thread verngraham
It was the Generate Parts feature that confused me, and the 3 window dialog box. At any rate, I will get up to speed at some point and in the meanwhile I will shut up about this because it's my fault for not taking the time that I currently don't have to train myself on the new feature. (which is

Re: spam [Finale] very TAN

2007-02-19 Thread verngraham
The problem here that bothers me the most is that it's not a physical thing. It's the brain adapting a defense mechanism, not a mechanical or chemical failure of your metabolism. But the impact ultimately will be spiritual deprivation, because the music or the art will no longer be viewed with

Re: [Finale] O.T. Proofing issues

2007-02-19 Thread verngraham
You can easily be fooled by your own eyes when proofreading, particulary if you are the one doing the entry, because sometimes your mind will see something it wants or expects to see, not what is actually there. My technique is be constanly vigilant while doing the entry. Rushing always creates a

Re: spam [Finale] very TAN

2007-02-19 Thread verngraham
I understand (and have seen photos lithographs of the burlesquing audiences); do you also recall where Shakepeare put his theatre? (in the middle of the town square, the marketplace, the middle of the friggin road.) SO WHAT! People came looking for it. THEY SOUGHT IT OUT. They heckled, they

Re: spam [Finale] very TAN; APOLOGY DUE and enclosed

2007-02-19 Thread verngraham
I just realized I spat out some not so pleasant nor helpful comments when I responded a couple of minutes ago, and regret that I didn't take another minute or so to think out a more gracious response. I am sincerely hopeful that shirling neueweise will accept my apology for being crude and

RE: [Finale] Cue notes starting IN multi measure rest

2007-02-17 Thread verngraham
MInke: Fantastic! I'm glad to have helped. I really thought I had given you a way too complicated fix for a problem I that I thought some one else solved brilliantly and simply, but I have had to do some very strange and work intensive things to get the appearance of some scores parts to be what

Re: [Finale] Execute Shape to control tempo?!?

2007-02-17 Thread verngraham
Have you tried working in the view that allow the channel and mixing control on the left hand pane of the staves (I can't remember the view name, but it's not scroll and it's not mixer, and there's only one other view rather than page, so that's the one) You can use the tempo tap tool which will

Re: [Finale] Composers Copyists

2007-02-16 Thread verngraham
THanks for your reply: (I'm assuming this came from Jef) Please see my responses inserted below. (1) As a Copyist, I am finding that I am having a hard time locating new clients, as many composers/arrangers have also purchased notation packages and do their own work, as have several of my former

Re: [Finale] Cue notes starting IN multi measure rest

2007-02-16 Thread verngraham
I have a solution, but it's nasty work. I've encountered similar issues before and you have to lie to Finale and make it do things it doesn't want to do. I'm assuming that your concern here is only with the individual part, and not the score, so here goes. In m. 20 (where you want to see the cue

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007c is available

2007-02-16 Thread verngraham
SO what DOES it do if you're on a MAC? (I am and I'm afraid!!!) I've been waiting for the Kontakt2 Player fix so I can load the complete Garritan libararies, not just the Finale bundled set. The last time I tried to use 2007 with Garritan it crashed 20 times in a row while loading the instruments,

Re: [Finale] Cue notes starting IN multi measure rest

2007-02-16 Thread verngraham
I hate to say it, but this guy (Mr. Jones) has got it all over my advice. Duh; what a dunce I was. Glad I didn't put myself through all that grief. Hope the reader didn't. I think he means make the right barline of the last OLD measure invisible, not the new measure. Well, if you do not mind

Re: [Finale] Cue notes starting IN multi measure rest

2007-02-16 Thread verngraham
In the score, he wouldn't have the issue of a MM rest, or a cue, yes? Actually I was thinking on both parts and score. As a conductor I like to see everything my orchestra members are reading, For the same reason I hate concert pitch scores. Hans You will excuse me for any typo's due

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007c is available

2007-02-16 Thread verngraham
Thanks Chuck, but MM tech support confirmed that the initial release of 2K7 Kontakt2 wouldn't load the Garritan FULL GPO library. I have downloaded 2K7b, but have not installed yet, so I will probably try 2K7c now that Kontakt2 is updated. By the way, I have been hearing and seeing comments about

Re: [Finale] Slashed beamed grace notes

2007-02-16 Thread verngraham
Darcy- If you find it again, please let me know. I end up creating a shape which I assign as an articulation (with a metatool) and attach it to the full sized note that the grace notes precede. This works very well most of the time and will move with the music if you change the layouts or respace

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007c is available

2007-02-16 Thread verngraham
Darcy- Thanks, again. I used Kontakt Player 1.x in 2K7 in lieu of Kntk2. I already knew out of the box it wouldn't work, so I never tried. The documentation that ships with 2K7 states it will only load GPO/Finale Bundled instruments set. KntkPyr1.x is the one that crashed on loading in 2K7.

Re: [Finale] Slashed beamed grace notes

2007-02-16 Thread verngraham
It will work, but the reduction of the grace note sizing affects the sizing of the slash as well once it is attached. Usually, I don't have to go back and change it as I place the slashes after the music has been spaced, and any slight change due to moving systems around is not usually noticable.

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007c is available

2007-02-16 Thread verngraham
Darcy- Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I saw in the pre-release hype from MakeMusic that the MIXER was to include EQ in the 2K7 upgrade! I even pre-ordered to get the new version ASAP as I was already on a roll in 2K6 with the Garritan stuff and loving it. That would enable you to do a

Re: [Finale] Slashed beamed grace notes

2007-02-16 Thread verngraham
I have done it both ways and haven't noticed any problems with either yet. The most logical trouble free way is as you said, create it slightly larger so when it reduces, it will look normal. But it's somewhat specious to argue placement as the grace notes already have spacing parameters regarding

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007c is available

2007-02-16 Thread verngraham
But the individual channel EQ is what I thought they were promising in 2K7. It would be way cool if they actually provide a console board with the busses and EQ and effect loops. Imagine! Anyway, I'm trying hard to not spend as much time becoming an engineer and I am trying to write music, and

[Finale] Composers Copyists

2007-02-15 Thread verngraham
Having recently been referred to this Finale List, I have been marvelling at the resource that is being provided by SHSU, and find it to be uniquely informative in ways that you cannot get at the Finale Forums, Google searches, and Support (at Make Music). Moreover, there is what appears to be a

Re: [Finale] Composers Copyists

2007-02-15 Thread verngraham
Well, it helps break up the boredom engaging in trivia topics.. And it can be hysterically funny.. #1 Response That doesn't mean they really know how to use the package. You could offer your services to make their scores/parts professional. Offering large scale printing, cleaning up of

Re: [Finale] Composers Copyists

2007-02-15 Thread verngraham
#1 Response There's a natural progression to this, and your observation is quite correct. In the late '80s my wife needed some of her compositions engraved, and it was done by a person who had mastered the Finale of the time at what seemed rather expensive rates, while another project was

Re: [Finale] music out of sync

2007-02-12 Thread verngraham
Please send MakeMusic all the details of your grief with Fin2K7. I have been doing so just so they know they passed on a very buggy revision, which I have stopped using after about a week of fighting with it. I just could not give up any more time trying to figure out hw to deal with the new

Re: [Finale] Printers used

2007-02-12 Thread verngraham
I'm printing up to 12x18 on an HP Laserjet 5000N. (bought 2 years ago on E-Bay for $700.) I have learned much from the thread concerning binding. I now pose an even more basic question: What printers are recommended for your oversized pages? I would like to purchase one capable of printing

Re: [Finale] Editing old file in FinMac2006, can't change system bottom margins

2007-02-12 Thread verngraham
Could be several places to find the fix: First, look at your default page setup. Check and see if the systems in question are optimized; sometimes Un-optimizing then re-optimizing wakes up something in the software and it might correct. Another is redefine all pages if the other things aren't

Re: [Finale] Staff Style Question

2007-02-12 Thread verngraham
select the whole staff with your midi tool and set velocity to 0. (or just the range of measues you don't want to hear) Hey: Anyone! How do you set a default for chord symbols to NOT PLAYBACK globally? I hate having to uncheck those damn boxes everytime I create a new chord symbol, and I almost

Re: [Finale] TAN: transposing standards downward

2007-02-12 Thread verngraham
Bad news for you my friend: the only REAL way to solve the problem is revoice the piano accompaniment so it works in a musical way with the new key. Just a strict transposition doesn't really work, because, as you said, you get into the ledger lines, and sonically, it just gets too dark. Sometimes

Re: [Finale] binding parts: electrical tape

2007-02-09 Thread verngraham
Well, I must be the cheapest guy on the taping issue, but a big band leader who I have been supplying parts to for over 10 years has said that everything is still good. I use the cheap painter's 1 inch masking tape (preferably 3M). Years ago I found masking tape to be useless as it dried out,

Re: [Finale] binding parts: electrical tape

2007-02-09 Thread verngraham
ACCORDIAN method described. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing I do when I finish the stack of parts, is apply some talc powder to the exposed (right hand) edge where the tape peeks through the seam great idea! i'm not sure i get where you mean, right edge... are you taping in accordion

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread verngraham
I found the same thing when i installed FIn2K7a, and mentioned it to tech support at MM to no avail. Also, I have enabled the software to make a copy when I do a save and directed it to a folder outside of the Finale folder) on a seperate drive on my Mac) and it repeatedly saved backup files in

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread verngraham
I also asked MM why any of the libraries I used/created in Fin2K6 would not load (Chord Symbols, Shape Expressions, Shapes, Articulations) in Fin2K7 but got no response to that question. Very frustrating, because I decided to use a new template (from 2K7) to work on a new piece (rather than what I

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread verngraham
I only recall one earlier version (long ago) where Finale libraries wouldn't translate, and the documentation was very clear on this point: I think it was around the time that MacIntosh moved from Sys software 6.x to 7.0. But, I have been nigrating libraries since Finale 2002 with no issues. On

[Finale] 2007a frustration - linked parts

2007-02-06 Thread verngraham
Chuck! Greetings from another bassist. I have been going nuts with Finale 2K7 since I installed it and am now going back to 2K6. The parts extraction feature nearly killed me! I have a steady client for whom I do Big Band copying, and it almost doubled the time to do the part extractions and lay

Re: [Finale] 2007a frustration - linked parts

2007-02-06 Thread verngraham
If that's true, I sure don't understand why Finale Tech Support didn't tell me that when I asked them for help. So, if I understand correctly, when I go to extract parts, (assuming I have already defined the setup for parts), it will create linked parts, which I should choose NOT to use??? What

Re: [Finale] music theory

2007-02-06 Thread verngraham
Hey-anybody out there know anything about MusicPress (from the software company in Vermont)? hey will, no condescension was intended, it was meant entirely in fun, but yes i did in fact mean hey bruce, don't generalize in response to bruce's response to your response. (sorry for confusion in