Sorry if this message is a repeat; I got lost in the ether.
In editing Christmas music for amateur singers (and pianists), I have to
transpose many
songs to fit the range of elder singers. In some keys this produces results
such as double flats
that are difficult for many amateurs to read. Even
Chord Tool Menu - Simplify Spelling often takes care of most of this.
Chuck
On Nov 28, 2013, at 10:59 AM, John Witmer wit...@nctv.com wrote:
Sorry if this message is a repeat; I got lost in the ether.
In editing Christmas music for amateur singers (and pianists), I have to
transpose many
I'm wondering if someone can tell me where there is a simple cheap or free
program which I can use to cut up a track into smaller bits.
I used to do this with Nero, but no longer own it. I was disappointed with
Nero crashing [crash and burn ...?] and don't own a copy any more.
What I want to do
Thanks David.
Looks easy enough to use and will probably do what I need it to do..
David McKay
On 22 July 2010 08:22, David W. Fenton lists.fin...@dfenton.com wrote:
On 22 Jul 2010 at 8:12, David McKay wrote:
I'm wondering if someone can tell me where there is a simple cheap or
free
On 22 Jul 2010 at 8:33, David McKay wrote:
Looks easy enough to use and will probably do what I need it to do..
I've been using it for several years, and though it's not the
greatest UI, it keeps getting more capable over the years.
And you can't beat the price!
--
David W. Fenton
On 7/21/2010 6:12 PM, David McKay wrote:
I'm wondering if someone can tell me where there is a simple cheap or free
program which I can use to cut up a track into smaller bits.
http://audacity.sourceforge.net
Aaron.
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I thought I'd update the list on my inability to open my 2009 documents in
2010. It is a known problem to MakeMusic that a 'handful' of people have
encountered. The best information I've received is that it is a problem with
templates. They've asked me how far back in versions was the original
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From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On
Behalf Of Noel Stoutenburg
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:42 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Editing 2009 files in 2010
James:
One thing that you might want to try, is to forward one of the
offending
On 12 Jun 2009 at 13:48, James Gilbert wrote:
Make music tech
I looked over the file and it looks like it is damaged. To fix it, open the
file and go to the File menu MusicXML Export. Next, close the original
version of the file. Go back to the File menu MusicXML Import, select
the
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: RE: [Finale] Editing 2009 files in 2010
Have you run the repair tools in your earlier version of Finale?
Specifically, on the OPTIONS | DATA CHECK menu, run TEST FILE
INTEGRITY and REMOVE DELETED ITEMS. Then try importing.
I would not want to use the MusicXML
James Gilbert wrote:
maybe I'll just keep 2008, 2009 2010 all running on the same system.
Hopefully that's not a problem.
I can't comment on the specific combination of 2008, 2009, and 2010, but
I have run several versions in parallel for years, and at present have
2000, 2003, 2006, and
I seem to be running into major problems editing FinWin 2009 files in 2010.
The files open correctly in 2010 and everything is where it should be. When
I then start to edit the file using speedy entry, things go a little haywire
after exiting speedy entry. First I get an error saying the program
Oooh ... that's a little scary. However, I would be editing from
Mac07, if that makes any difference ... I wonder. Please inform if it
continues. I've been putting off some projects, so that I could start
them in 2010 ... looks as if I may be happy that I did. Expecting it
any day ...
I have been using 2010 for a couple of weeks now on a Vista 32bit
machine and have not experienced any of this with any of the files I
have edited from 2009. I just tried the same things with some 2003, 2004
and 2007 files and still no problems. I'm sure you have already tried
rebooting your
I'm using Windows Vista home premium with service pack 1 installed. Intel
core duo cpu, 2gb ram, Radeon X1300/X1500 video card. I'm not having trouble
with any other programs and the system isn't sluggish or otherwise different
than normal. I have rebooted a few times, re-installed at least once,
On 11 Jun 2009 at 18:32, James Gilbert wrote:
Not only do I have the troubles I've described previously opening older
files, I've replicated the problem when importing XML versions of the same
files. I've tried other things to track down the problem with no luck. I'll
keep playing with it to
. At least I can start from scratch without a problem.
James Gilbert
www.jamesgilbertmusic.com
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From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On
Behalf Of David W. Fenton
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 7:39 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: RE: [Finale
James:
One thing that you might want to try, is to forward one of the offending
files to someone else, and see if they have problems opening it in 2k10.
I have a 2k9 test file that I created, that I'd be willing to send you,
too, if you want to see if you have the problem with a file created
James,
I would be willing to try one of the offending files since I am unable
to duplicate the problems you are having with any of my earlier files.
Just send it on if you would like for me to try it.
Rick
Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
James:
One thing that you might want to try, is to forward
I just installed 2010 (Windows). Imported a 2009 file, imported a
graphic (MUCH easier - jpg, gif or tif, no complaining about compression
after editing a tif in MSPaint) and saved it, printed it, called it up
again, no problems. I also have two actual printers and some virtual
printers.
Hello all.
I just passed an exam in image and video techniques, and I can confirm that
this is indeed feasible ;)
The 13/2/09 23:22, Aaron Sherber escribió/wrote:
(It makes a certain amount of sense. For example, with the right
software you can rotate a JPG 90 deg. and save losslessly.)
On Feb 19, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Javier Ruiz wrote:
Javier wrote:
(snip)
[It makes blocks of 8 x 8 pixels values, performs a
Discrete Cosine Transform -passing to the frequency domain-,
quantize the
matrix of coefficients (this is were the quality percentage is
applied), and
compress the
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 13 Feb 2009 at 16:07, dhbailey wrote:
Of course the player you saw may have been playing a pocket
trumpet which is simply a regular Bb trumpet, predominently
cylindrical bore and all, full length but just wrapped
around more so it's short enough to fit into a
Richard Yates wrote:
(It's the same with images. If someone sends you a JPG that you plan
to edit repeatedly, you should first open it and save it as
a TIF, and
then make all your edits to the TIF. When you're done
editing, you can
export the TIF as a JPG for portability, keeping your
Aaron Sherber wrote:
[snip] Also -- and I admit this isn't particularly relevant
here -- comparing
file sizes isn't really an adequate way of comparing the files. You're
saying that because one file is only a few bytes bigger or smaller,
there can't be much difference between the two. But of
On 14.02.2009 dhbailey wrote:
While I agree that the actual data within the file could be wildly different
between two differently saved files, I would think that opening a file which
was originally 100% (zero compression) and then compressing that 50% and saving
the file, shouldn't the
On 14 Feb 2009 at 7:26, dhbailey wrote:
In any event, that sort of incident you describe, a moment
of musical wonder and beauty in the midst of the hustle and
bustle of a big city is one of the very few reasons that I
wish I lived in a city. That opportunity to see how vast is
the
I just made a recording of a choir rehearsal last night with my H2
digital. I recorded in the MP3 mode. It is possible to edit said
files (other than just splitting a file on the H2) once they are
uploaded to my Mac? It's a G5, running 10.4.1 BTW, the H2 seems to
be doing a pretty fair
On 2/13/2009 11:57 AM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
I just made a recording of a choir rehearsal last night with my H2
digital. I recorded in the MP3 mode. It is possible to edit said
files (other than just splitting a file on the H2) once they are
uploaded to my Mac?
I believe that most audio
Good info ... thanks.
Dean
On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:15 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
On 2/13/2009 11:57 AM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
I just made a recording of a choir rehearsal last night with my H2
digital. I recorded in the MP3 mode. It is possible to edit said
files (other than just splitting a
On 13 Feb 2009, at 12:15 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
What you might want to do is open this MP3 in Audacity and save it
as a WAV. Then you can edit, save, edit, save, etc. as much as you
like with the WAV without further degradation of the original MP3.
And then again, only convert your
On 13 Feb 2009 at 12:15, Aaron Sherber wrote:
However, keep in mind that MP3s are like JPG images -- they use lossy
compression, meaning every time you edit and save, you introduce some
artifacts (which may or may not be audible/visible). This is why it's
always better to record and edit
On 13 Feb 2009 at 13:19, Darcy James Argue wrote:
With respect, Aaron, this won't help. Converting the MP3 to WAV and
back again will introduce far more artifacts than any edits you might
make in Audacity, and won't actually result in any benefit. Once a
file is in a lossy format (like
On 13 Feb 2009, at 4:02 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
Hmm. I was unaware that there were mainstream apps that could edit
MP3s natively.
There certainly are. You can open an MP3 in QuickTime Player and edit
it directly there without converting to some other format. And Fission
(the app I use
As I recall, even iTunes, for either platform, will permit editing and
it's free
noel jones
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On 2/13/2009 4:19 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 13 Feb 2009, at 4:02 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
Hmm. I was unaware that there were mainstream apps that could edit
MP3s natively.
There certainly are. You can open an MP3 in QuickTime Player and edit
it directly there without converting to
Darcy, you are mistaken. You cannot edit an mp3 in native mode as it is an
encoded format. It may look to you as if you are directly editing the mp3
when you open it, but any audio editor must of course convert the file to an
audio waveform before it can be edited (whether WAV, AIFF, or a native
Hi Lee,
Okay, that makes sense. Thanks for setting me straight.
Cheers,
- Darcy
-
djar...@earthlink.net
Brooklyn, NY
On 13 Feb 2009, at 4:55 PM, Lee Actor wrote:
Darcy, you are mistaken. You cannot edit an mp3 in native mode as
it is an
encoded format. It may look to you as if you
On 2/13/2009 5:25 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Instead, my first suggestion would be to use an editing application
that operates on the original MP3 file and does not require you to re-
encode -- which, as far as I know, is what is happening with the app I
use (Fission).
I don't believe that
On 13 Feb 2009, at 6:05 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
Yes -- unless you plan to do more editing. Keeping in mind that
every save to MP3 format degrades quality, what you want to avoid is
open the MP3, make an edit, save back to MP3. Open the new MP3 a
week later, make some more edits, save
Hi Aaron,
Looking around a bit more on the web, I do think we need to
distinguish different kinds of editing. It appears that certain
kinds of edits can be made to MP3s without needing to recode, namely
splitting up an MP3 into pieces and applying gain. (See http://sherber.com/url/3c
,
On 2/13/2009 6:15 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
These are, in fact, the only kinds of edits Fission allows (cut
paste, normalization and fades),
Ah, interesting. Lee, can you comment on this? Is it true that these
kinds of edits can be made to an MP3 without needing to recode afterwards?
(It
iTunes lets you make volume adjustments and change the start and stop
time. File - Info - Options. But these don't get written into the
file itself, I don't think.
- Darcy
-
djar...@earthlink.net
Brooklyn, NY
On 13 Feb 2009, at 6:19 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
I haven't seen any
I'm not familiar with the internals of the mp3 format, so I can't say for
sure. But considering that none of the edits mentioned operate in the
frequency domain (such as filters and most other types of audio processing),
I can see how it might be possible without conversion/reconversion. But
iTunes allows you to convert among a few formats, but that's it AFAIK.
--AF
On Feb 13, 2009, at 5:19 PM, Dean M. Estabrook d.e...@comcast.net
wrote:
I haven't seen any capabilities in iTunes for editing. Perhaps I
just don't know where to find them.
Dean
On Feb 13, 2009, at 1:48 PM,
On 13 Feb 2009 at 16:02, Aaron Sherber wrote:
if
you have a JPG as a source, you open it and save it as a TIF or
something else non-lossy so it won't get any worse while you work on it.
If you edit the JPG and save back as a JPG, it gets worse each time,
because you're re-applying the
Dean, my 2c, esp. since you are on Mac:
Amadeus Pro is excellent. It costs some money, but unlike Audacity (in my
experience) it's extremely stable and does a great job.
I recommend it.
Matthew
2009/2/14 David W. Fenton lists.fin...@dfenton.com
On 13 Feb 2009 at 16:02, Aaron Sherber wrote:
On 13 Feb 2009 at 17:25, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Here's what I understood you to be suggesting:
1) Open the MP3 in Audacity and up-sample it to WAV. Save the WAV
version.
If by upsample to WAV you mean the same process that happens when
the MP3 is played, then, sure.
2) Make the edits
On 13 Feb 2009 at 18:05, Aaron Sherber wrote:
Keeping in mind that every
save to MP3 format degrades quality, what you want to avoid is open the
MP3, make an edit, save back to MP3. Open the new MP3 a week later, make
some more edits, save back to MP3. Repeat again the next day. You've now
I'm going to preface all of this by saying that I'm always happy to be
proved wrong in things like this.
On 2/13/2009 7:22 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
The usual method is to have, say, a 15% compression ratio. When you
open a file, your graphics editing progam knows what the compression
ratio
On 2/13/2009 7:37 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
I don't think this is correct, Aaron. When you edit the MP3, you
aren't editing the original data, but a waveform that is result of
expanding the data from the MP3 file. If you save that waveform to
exactly the same bitrate as the original source MP3,
On 13 Feb 2009 at 19:37, Aaron Sherber wrote:
I'm going to preface all of this by saying that I'm always happy to be
proved wrong in things like this.
On 2/13/2009 7:22 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
The usual method is to have, say, a 15% compression ratio. When you
open a file, your
Useful for making ringtones, I suppose!
I have had a lot of good luck on the Mac with Sound
Studioespecially with its liberal demo mode.
noel jones
On Feb 13, 2009, at 6:23 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
iTunes lets you make volume adjustments and change the start and
stop time. File -
On 2/13/2009 8:08 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
They don't display the information, but PSP, at least (which is what
I use for all my graphics editing -- I can't stand the GIMP), does
not continue to compress the file beyond its current compression
ration.
Except that I don't think PSP has any
On 13 Feb 2009 at 20:36, Aaron Sherber wrote:
On 2/13/2009 8:08 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
They don't display the information, but PSP, at least (which is what
I use for all my graphics editing -- I can't stand the GIMP), does
not continue to compress the file beyond its current
(It's the same with images. If someone sends you a JPG that you plan
to edit repeatedly, you should first open it and save it as
a TIF, and
then make all your edits to the TIF. When you're done
editing, you can
export the TIF as a JPG for portability, keeping your source TIF for
any
On 2/13/2009 9:12 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
It doesn't actually need to. Once the file is open, it's an
uncompressed bitmap, with 100% of the information that the original
file contains. As long as the save uses the same compression ratio,
the result should be, for all intents and purposes,
On 2/13/2009 8:29 PM, Richard Yates wrote:
I have heard the first theory and decided to test it. I opened a high
resolution photo in Photoshop and saved it with the maximum compression as a
jpg. Then reopened it and saved again with maximum compression. After
repeating this seven times I can see
On 13 Feb 2009 at 23:27, Aaron Sherber wrote:
Also -- and I admit this isn't particularly relevant here -- comparing
file sizes isn't really an adequate way of comparing the files. You're
saying that because one file is only a few bytes bigger or smaller,
there can't be much difference
On 13 Feb 2009 at 23:27, Aaron Sherber wrote:
Also -- and I admit this isn't particularly relevant here --
comparing
file sizes isn't really an adequate way of comparing the
files. You're
saying that because one file is only a few bytes bigger or smaller,
there can't be much difference
How do I change a font (and font size) for an expression created in the
expression tool? I want to create a fermata in the expression tool using a U
and maestro font, 24 point. I can create the U in the expression tool, I
just don't see anywhere in the edit box to change the font or font size.
Um, it is probably covered in the manual?
There is a menu called TEXT that appears in the menu bar.
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:29 AM, mystrom1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do I change a font (and font size) for an expression created in the
expression tool? I want to create a fermata in
Thanks...
And, UM, I coulda done without the sarcasm. That was really not necessary!
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Eric Dannewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Um, it is probably covered in the manual?
There is a menu called TEXT that appears in the menu bar.
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at
Then maybe consult the manual before posting? It's pretty obvious how to do
what you were asking to do...the Finale manual is a great reference (one
of the best software manuals).
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:02 AM, mystrom1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks...
And, UM, I coulda done without
What is obvious to you may not be obvious to someone else. I will refrain
from commenting further.
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Eric Dannewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Then maybe consult the manual before posting? It's pretty obvious how to do
what you were asking to do...the Finale
On 9 Sep 2008 at 14:08, mystrom1 wrote:
What is obvious to you may not be obvious to someone else. I will refrain
from commenting further.
Even *I* didn't find Eric's remark sarcastic or inappropriate.
On the other hand, sometimes one does look in the manual, but for
whatever reason, ends up
Could be several places to find the fix: First, look at your default page
setup. Check and see if the systems in question are optimized; sometimes
Un-optimizing then re-optimizing wakes up something in the software and it
might correct. Another is redefine all pages if the other things aren't
I've got a strange problem.
I have edited a file from 2002 in FinMac 2006c, and I am at the very
end of the operation, laying out the score.
I can't change the bottom system margins of any system in the score.
They are all set to zero, according to the window, but the bottom
right handle
On Feb 11, 2007, at 8:03 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
I've got a strange problem.
I have edited a file from 2002 in FinMac 2006c, and I am at the
very end of the operation, laying out the score.
I can't change the bottom system margins of any system in the
score. They are all set to
Big symphony, 1953. Winds in threes. Lots of bitonal harmonies. In a
near-tutti (trps, hns, timp resting) with everybody playing an E-minor
chord (the key sig. is Gb), the 2d bassoon, and only the second
bassoon, has an F (natural), sustained across 2 bars.
Is this an error? (FWIW, bn. 1 bcl
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Andrew Stiller
Sent: Thu 08-Dec-05 12:34
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: [Finale] editing question
Big symphony, 1953. Winds in threes. Lots of bitonal harmonies. In a
near-tutti (trps, hns, timp resting) with everybody playing an E-minor
chord (the key sig
Andrew,
Given the keysig, is there any evidence that the composer had
originally spelled that chord as Fb but decided to simplify to E
later? (I'm assuming that you're working off a manuscript) If so, the
F in Bsn II could have the flat missing...possible??
Jim
Nice theory, but this
of Andrew Stiller
Sent: Thu 08-Dec-05 17:21
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] editing question
Andrew,
Given the keysig, is there any evidence that the composer had
originally spelled that chord as Fb but decided to simplify to E
later? (I'm assuming that you're working off
I'm trying to create some libraries for editorial articulations and
expressions, and Finale is giving me fits.
I started by saving the libraries from the file where I created them.
I then loaded them into a blank template, and deleted all the
unnecessary stuff. I then did a data check to
John Howell wrote:
At 4:04 PM -0500 3/19/05, dhbailey wrote:
There is a way to do what you want, it's just that Finale programmers
haven't figured out how to do it. :-(
My bet is the first notation software which does that (Sibelius,
Finale or the newly developping Notion software from
David Bailey wrote:
As for Dennis' fear of losing access to Finale, I agree, it's not
paranoid.
If Dennis's fear was losing access to data in files created with
Sibelius, I would agree that it would not be paranoid. However, at
least the ~.etf file format of Finale is open, and anyone who
On 22 Mar 2005 at 22:39, John Howell wrote:
At 4:04 PM -0500 3/19/05, dhbailey wrote:
There is a way to do what you want, it's just that Finale
programmers haven't figured out how to do it. :-(
My bet is the first notation software which does that (Sibelius,
Finale or the newly
To my question:
If one uses ~.etf as the primary storage format for Finale data files,
one will not lose access to the data in the files. . ..
David Fenton wrote
How successful is the import of ETF files in these other programs?
How usable are the programs themselves? Do they lack capabilities
On 23 Mar 2005 at 6:13, dhbailey wrote:
As for Dennis' fear of losing access to Finale, I agree, it's not
paranoid. But copy protection isn't what has done Mosaic in, it's the
advancing OS which has left the old code in the dust and the
developper of Mosaic decided to pull the plug on the
On 23 Mar 2005 at 14:51, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
To my question:
If one uses ~.etf as the primary storage format for Finale data
files, one will not lose access to the data in the files. . ..
David Fenton wrote
How successful is the import of ETF files in these other programs?
How usable
John Howell wrote:
But MotU seem no longer to be supporting Mosaic, despite this
ability. My son-in-law was smart enough to get it operable for me in
OSX Classic, so I can (for the moment) still access hundreds of my
scores, but soon I'll inevitably lose them. Dennis' fear of losing
access
Owain Sutton wrote:
David W. Fenton wrote:
Or they aren't even trying.
I think Finale, with its unlinked templates and unlinked libaries, is
terribly flawed at a basic conceptual level
My bet is the first notation software which does that (Sibelius,
Finale or the newly developping Notion
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm fairly sure that this is a daft question and that I know the answer
already, anyway, here goes.
I engraved the score and parts for a work which was recorded for CD today.
During the recording session, the composer had second thoughts about a
number of things,
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:48:02 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there any way of linking the score and extracted
parts so that the changes I make in the score are reflected in the parts so
that I don't have to re-extract them (I don't want to have to re-tweak
them)
The link isn't going to
On 19 Mar 2005 at 16:04, dhbailey wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm fairly sure that this is a daft question and that I know the
answer already, anyway, here goes.
I engraved the score and parts for a work which was recorded for CD
today.
During the recording session, the
Thanks Christopher (and everyone else who has offered help with
this),
That sounds like an easier way than doing everything twice. I'll
experiment with it and see if any problems appear.
There are lots of articulations/bowings added but the notes themselves are
unchanged, but the parts
David W. Fenton wrote:
Or they aren't even trying.
I think Finale, with its unlinked templates and unlinked libaries, is
terribly flawed at a basic conceptual level
My bet is the first notation software which does that (Sibelius,
Finale or the newly developping Notion software ... will
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