Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-22 Thread Gerald Youngblood
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher Splitting the discussions is a great idea. I suggest that the Experimental Group be defined to include *any* unreleased and/or unsupported software or hardware - not just the SVN-managed code. For example, discussions of PowerSDR issues that use

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-22 Thread Gerald Youngblood
: Saturday, June 20, 2009 7:25 AM To: j...@3kitty.org; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher That would really be misleading to potential customers. Ddutil, VAC usage as experimental? When I bought the Flex I was really surprised to find all of the contortions

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-21 Thread Carl , WCØV
Re: distinguishing SVNs for Alpha code software from released versions: Change the background color for SVNs to red or green or yellow or something intense, and keep the boring beige for the fully released versions. OR a large banner in a bold color at the top of the Alpha console screens

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-20 Thread Brahmangou
in excitement! (TM) -Original Message- From: Howard S. White [mailto:drpa...@kleega.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 6:25 PM To: ger...@flex-radio.com; mnar...@comcast.net; Dave Gomberg Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: RE: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher I

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-20 Thread Kirk K6KAR
, 2009 7:25 AM To: j...@3kitty.org; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher That would really be misleading to potential customers. Ddutil, VAC usage as experimental? When I bought the Flex I was really surprised to find all of the contortions necessary

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-20 Thread Tim Ellison
To: j...@3kitty.org; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher That would really be misleading to potential customers. Ddutil, VAC usage as experimental? When I bought the Flex I was really surprised to find all of the contortions necessary to make it perform

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-20 Thread Jack Haverty
Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of brahman...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:25 AM To: j...@3kitty.org; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher That would really

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-19 Thread Ed Haskell
I knew you were joking. Ed, W1PN On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com wrote: On Jun 18, 2009, at 4:50 PM, Brian Lloyd wrote: On Jun 18, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Brian Lloyd wrote: But there is another way to think about this. Yes, it may scare someone off but I

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-19 Thread Gerald Youngblood
Phone: 512-535-4713 www.flex-radio.com Tune in excitement! (TM) -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 8:07 PM To: Flex reflector Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-19 Thread Gerald Youngblood
) -Original Message- From: Howard S. White [mailto:drpa...@kleega.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 6:25 PM To: ger...@flex-radio.com; mnar...@comcast.net; Dave Gomberg Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: RE: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher I do agree that for marketing purposes you

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-19 Thread Peter Spader
: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher Membership in the Experimental Group will be open to all FlexRadio customers who are willing to follow the rules associated with the privilege. We reserve the right to restrict access to certain highly experimental SVN branches until they are stable enough

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-19 Thread Mark Gang
-radio.biz Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 7:34:30 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher Gerald, Sounds great to me. This makes clear the difference bwteen the experimental SVN and the Offical Release, and allows support to focus on where it is most needed---to get people up

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-19 Thread Mark Gang
My last message was not meant for the reflector. Sorry for the wasted bandwidth. Mark N6SF ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives:

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-18 Thread Kirk K6KAR
@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher I had to be persuaded but I believe it will benefit all of us. The use of the test branch by people running contests and hunting vital DX or worse yet, doing ARES work just sent shivers down my spine. It is time for a fork

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-18 Thread Gerald Youngblood
: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher Excellent point Bob. A consideration could be made for a separate tester/coder email reflector. Joe -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Bob McGwier Sent: Wednesday, June

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-18 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Jun 17, 2009, at 10:38 PM, Robert McGwier wrote: I had to be persuaded but I believe it will benefit all of us. It is certainly what I would do. Reflectors are cheap and easy to set up. If one doesn't want to spend any effort we could certainly create another on google-groups or

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-18 Thread Jesse N4BFD
I respectfully disagree ...I don't think there should be any restrictions on who gets to test software, if someone is savy enough to figure out how to navigate the SVN process, they probably should be able to test the software. The more you restrict that base of people, the less you have, and the

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-18 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 22:38 6/17/2009, Robert McGwier wrote: I had to be persuaded but I believe it will benefit all of us. The use of the test branch by people running contests and hunting vital DX or worse yet, doing ARES work just sent shivers down my spine. It is time for a fork in the road. IBM

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-18 Thread Bret Mills
It is not up to me by no means but I think simpley to select the Alpha test group Email reflector users, would be to only put people in it that have sent bugs to the Bug tracker in the last 6 months or something like that. 73's Bret WX7Y Other wise you have just another group of users who

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-18 Thread Carl , WCØV
, please add me to it. Tnx to all the developers for the fabulous product. 73, de Carl N9GC (ex WCØV) - Original Message - From: Jesse N4BFD n4b...@gmail.com Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher I

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-18 Thread Jack Haverty
Gerald et al, Thanks for a great product. The Flex-3000 rekindled my interest in HF after 30+ years in self-confinement in 2M emergency activities. My new Flex-3000 is fantastic - even with the quick-and-dirty longwire at 15 feet that I'm using as a temporary antenna. I've worked more

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-18 Thread Mike Naruta
That sort of models the modern amateur radio transceiver manufacturers. You may get an upgrade infrequently, after it has been tested many times. We are familiar with that process. One group of hams are attracted to the Flex-Radio products because of the performance and features. Another

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-18 Thread Gerald Youngblood
...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Mike Naruta Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 3:21 PM To: Dave Gomberg Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher That sort of models the modern amateur radio transceiver manufacturers. You

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-18 Thread Peter G. Viscarola
Reflexively, I disliked the idea of quashing the SVN talk on this list. But as I started to think about it more, it began to make sense: How many people REALLY want to watch the sausage being made? Even open source loving Linux users don't all want to belong to the linux-kernel list. Some people

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-18 Thread k5nwa
On 6/18/2009 4:04 PM, Peter G. Viscarola wrote: about what needs done in the next revision of the kernel. So... sure. Move the dev talk to another list. That'd be sensible. But restrict who can join? I think that'd be a darn shame. Peter K1PGV I would also vote no to restricting the

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-18 Thread Gerald Youngblood
www.flex-radio.com Tune in excitement! (TM) -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Peter G. Viscarola Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 4:04 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-18 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 13:20 6/18/2009, Mike Naruta wrote: What if instead of talking about SVN or alpha versions, we called it experimental or prototype versions? How about truth-in-labeling and call them bug testing versions -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE gomberg1 at wcf dot com All

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-18 Thread Howard S. White
18, 2009 1:50 PM To: mnar...@comcast.net; 'Dave Gomberg' Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher Mike, I am sure we can find a happy medium that meets the interests of both groups. We will put a lot of thought into it, taking into account all

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-18 Thread Burt
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher Hello friends of Flex! blip/flip fixed in SVN 3170 in the test branch. BUT THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OFFICIAL FLEX RELEASES. Folks, I do want to really urge you to use direct email to individuals

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-18 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Jun 18, 2009, at 4:24 PM, Howard S. White wrote: I do agree that for marketing purposes you need to separate the Support Reflector from the Experimental Group. There are a lot of people who do not understand the difference between Support and Experimentaion and it is pretty obvious that

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-18 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Jun 18, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Brian Lloyd wrote: But there is another way to think about this. Yes, it may scare someone off but I can't imagine it scaring off someone who really should buy a Flex radio. If it scares a potential buyer, maybe you don't really want that buyer. In my

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-18 Thread k4elo
Two groups would be good. It would be easier at least for me to keep track of what's where. You could consider restricting membership in the 'development' list to Flex owners. 73 Wayne K4ELO 73, Wayne K4ELO k4...@fastmail.fm ___ FlexRadio Systems

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-18 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Jun 18, 2009, at 4:50 PM, Brian Lloyd wrote: On Jun 18, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Brian Lloyd wrote: But there is another way to think about this. Yes, it may scare someone off but I can't imagine it scaring off someone who really should buy a Flex radio. If it scares a potential buyer, maybe

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-17 Thread Dudley Hurry
It has been reported that if you see the panadapter jump for normal to flat line about every second or so.. To get out of these situation, change the Sample rate to a different sample and then back. I've seen this on the 3K and 5K intermittently. I can't explain why, but the change in

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-17 Thread Ross Stenberg
Confirmed here if that means anything. Just showed up on the last test SVN at 3167. - Original Message - From: Dudley Hurry jhu...@austin.rr.com To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher It has been

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-17 Thread Bob McGwier
Hello friends of Flex! blip/flip fixed in SVN 3170 in the test branch. BUT THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OFFICIAL FLEX RELEASES. Folks, I do want to really urge you to use direct email to individuals involved in the coding AND the bug reporting system to report on these branches. It

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-17 Thread Joe Roth-WC4R
-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher Hello friends of Flex! blip/flip fixed in SVN 3170 in the test branch. BUT THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OFFICIAL FLEX RELEASES. Folks, I do want to really urge you to use direct email to individuals involved in the coding AND the bug

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-17 Thread Robert McGwier
I had to be persuaded but I believe it will benefit all of us. The use of the test branch by people running contests and hunting vital DX or worse yet, doing ARES work just sent shivers down my spine. It is time for a fork in the road. One for those who like to tinker and/or have specific