Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos Install Problem

Hi Andrew, I assume your 486 and your Pentium2 both use ATAPI CD drives and IDE harddisks, not SATA? Can you be more specific about the (harddisk?) read errors on the Pentium 2 after install? What does the BIOS and CMOS setup say about your i486 which does not boot? In general, I recommend the

Re: [Freedos-user] How to list "active" drives?

Also, check CDROM2UI: https://auersoft.eu/soft/ C:\>cdrom2 Freeware CDROM toolkit with audio support - written and conceived in 2003 by Eric Auer Usage: CDROM [EJECT|CLOSE|LOCK|UNLOCK|RESET] X: Example: CDROM EJECT N: Audio: CDROM [PAUSE|CONT|INFO|PLAYnn] X: (xx is audio track number) Ask *CDEX

Re: [Freedos-user] game compatibility CD/DVD drivers: comparing UDVD2 to OAKCDROM and DOSBOX

Hi Jim, > This is an interesting analysis and comparison between Oak > Technology's OAKCDROM (proprietary) and Jack's UDVD2 (free > with sources). > > Have you shared this with Jack? I think he would want to > see this so he can improve compatibility in his driver. Yes, but was is busy with im

[Freedos-user] game compatibility CD/DVD drivers: comparing UDVD2 to OAKCDROM and DOSBOX

Hi gamers and coders, in particular Lukas :-) Wondering why some (copy protected?) games work with OAKCDROM but not with UDVD2, I checked which differences exist between the two. I also found a relevant DOSBOX code snippet, assuming that DOSBOX cares more about game compatibility. Things which a

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 driver selection, configuration and packaging wish list

Hi :-) I would like to refresh the discussion about 1.3 updates... *Part one, quick driver selection improvements* Questions about the next update of the 1.3 boot media, has the following already been taken care of? Thanks! - provide XMGR as alternative for HIMEM at least in "full" (it ca

Re: [Freedos-user] GUI libs: Turbovision and FLTK (nanox), Dillo browser

Hi Paul, as you mention Nano-X and Turbo Vision, Georg Potthast has ported some apps to DOS using Nano-X and FLTK, with screenshots: > https://sourceforge.net/projects/fltk-dos/ > https://sourceforge.net/p/fltk-dos/wiki/NanoX_Introduction/ > https://freedos-user.narkive.com/bIGRt11t/new-xfdos

Re: [Freedos-user] command.com and long commands: command.com, SET and detection

Hi Jeremy, while you are at it: Wondering how Jerome could test whether the current shell is FreeCOM without needing temp files, I found out that half of the SET options are not yet listed in SET /? help. The currently available actual options of SET would be: SET test=one results in TEST=one S

Re: [Freedos-user] command.com and long commands

Hi Paul, > When I run a long command, e.g. > > pdptest ... (to exceed 126 > characters), and it is a Win32 executable so HX > gets involved, I get a crash. You write that Japheth writes: > IMO it's a bug in FD command.com. If a command > line exceeds 126 bytes, the value at [

Re: [Freedos-user] Fwd: FreeDOS make better compatibility with DOS games [current status]

Hi Lukas, Glad to hear that you found a solution for copy protected games! I assume none explicitly demanded OAKCDROM? What do the docs say? The question will be what exactly OAKCDROM does better than UDVD2, regarding copy protected games. Not easy to say with closed source. But good to know t

[Freedos-user] Fwd: FreeDOS make better compatibility with DOS games [current status]

Hi! Forwarding a message from Lukas, accidentally sent only to me. To already reply to his points: It is a common problem that 486 can not boot from CD-ROM, but we provide a boot floppy image with the right drivers to boot your 486 and then start our CD installer :-) Note that our installer exp

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS make better compatibility with DOS games [current status]

Hi Jerome, if FDIMPLES is specifically used in advanced mode, where more data has to be processed, I would suggest to consider automatically enabling support for XMS when XMS is found. Do you say that the amount of required RAM does not depend on the number of packages, but on the size of the la

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS make better compatibility with DOS games [current status]

Hi Jerome, thanks for the explanation, but are we talking about DOS RAM (at most 640 kB) here? Or EMS, XMS, protected mode? In FDIMPLES, FDINST of FDNPKG, and other involved apps? How much RAM do you recommend to be free? Could FDIMPLES shrink before calling FDINST and grow back when it exits?

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS make better compatibility with DOS games [current status]

Hi again, >>Not sure why Michał mentions Yamaha YMF724 > I've lots of issues with this card. > Shame on me for not getting a > motherboard with ISA slots. After trying several different PCI soundcards which claim some level of ISA Sound Blaster compatibility, I can tell you that your luck will

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS make better compatibility with DOS games [current status]

Hi Lukas, > Phil has even FreeDOS starter pack, but it is for FreeDOS 1.2. I tried it. > The driver VIDECDD is not working at all. It will not find my CD-ROM drive. Such is life. Try OAKCDROM or stick to UDVD2 in that case. This should not depend on your BIOS, though. As long as the CDROM is co

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS make better compatibility with DOS games [current status]

Hi Lukas, > Ok, I was born 1987. Had 386 and 486. Today I am software developer. I have As a software developer, you have to know that "My computer is not working, make it work" while hesitating to provide details is not making our life easier. A good bug report contains as many details as poss

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS make better compatibility with DOS games [current status]

Hi Lukas, > Please please I solved sound. I shared only experience. Please focus on cd > drive not found. Forget dosbox. I use original floppy discs from 1992. Dont > overcomplicate. Can u recommend which files replace from ms dos? Okay then. So there was no sound problem, you just used a DOSBO

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS make better compatibility with DOS games [current status]

Hi Lukas, > Guys, I built regular 486DX2 66Mhz. I would not be that guy and put PCI > soundcard in that machine. Of course I have ISA soundcard. I have even VLB > slot, but I use TSENG 4000/W32p for ISA. In PCI, there is only Realtek NIC > with XT-IDE EEPROM. Actually Realtek PCI Network cards

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS make better compatibility with DOS games [current status]

Hi Lukas, > Please help with solution, don't waste time with asking why and why You will have to ask specific questions when you want specific answers. If you want to visit your uncle, it does not help to tell your taxi driver "bring me to my uncle, do not ask me where he lives" either ;-) You

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS make better compatibility with DOS games [current status]

Hi Lukas, thanks for testing! > Hi, the current status for FreeDOS 1.3 RC4: > A) cannot install from CD on 486 due to low cache or low memory How much memory does your 486 have? Can it boot from CD? > solution is to install on Pentium, then put the drive in 486 > > B) FDNET has been removed,

Re: [Freedos-user] CMDLINE

Hi Paul, > Thanks Eric - 32766 solved the problem! Good, could you file a ticket on that github to update the documentation to stop saying "32768" instead of the correct 32766? Thanks! :-) > C:\DEVEL\binutils-2.14a>gcc386 -S temp.c j > d > dd

Re: [Freedos-user] CMDLINE

Sorry, I have to correct myself: According to https://github.com/FDOS/freecom/blob/master/shell/init.c#L440 the REAL maximum possible environment size right now is "only" 32766. Not 32767 and not 32768, but FreeCOM texts (in all languages) claim it is 32768. If you specify values below 17 or a

Re: [Freedos-user] CMDLINE

Hi Paul, > I believe that command.com can get involved in > the CMDLINE environment variable, just like any > other program can. And if it can't, it should say > so, rather than reporting a failed attempt to set it. > > C:\DEVEL\PDOS\SRC>ver > > FreeCom version 0.84-pre2 XMS_Swap [Aug 28 2006 0

Re: [Freedos-user] CMDLINE

Hi Paul, commands with their arguments are indeed limited in length in DOS. As far as I remember, if you use DJGPP based apps (including for example BASH as shell) then they can exchange longer command line arguments with each other by storing them in environment variables, but I do not think th

Re: [Freedos-user] Hold the date: FreeDOS Virtual Get-Together Sunday June 20 at 11am US Central

Hi Bryan, >> I wanted to plan another virtual get-together. Please hold the date >> for *Sunday, June 20* at 11am US/Central. > Here that will be 2 AM Monday! > František Ryšánek has kindly been helping me network via Ethernet, a > FreeDOS PC with two Ubuntu computers. Currently file sharing wo

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtualbox Networking Issue

Hi again, > Hi Ralf, I actually can't use traceroute to find the problem. This is in a > VM and as far as I know traceroute doesn't exist for FreeDOS. According to http://www.bttr-software.de/freesoft/comm1.htm there is a traceroute (tracert) included with wattcp32. Other implementations cou

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtualbox Networking Issue

Hi! > Unfortunately it does actually seem to be a networking issue. I just tried > to wget the current fdnpkg file from ibiblio.org and it failed, reporting: > "Resolving www.ibiblio.org... failed: No address associated with hostname. Note that 8.8.8.8 is a nameserver outside your house, you co

Re: [Freedos-user] FAT12

Hi Dan, the rationale for the "lite" installer to use FAT12 is that it would fit on the most tiny USB sticks that way. Which is something I also have complained about, because nobody has ONLY THAT SMALL sticks available today ;-) Note that there are different partition types for FAT with and w

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS Related source code

> Also, to be pedantic, I found e.g. the Microsoft C compiler > on Vetusware, and it has quite a bit of example code. Note that vetusware is about abandonware, so you will also find things with questionable licenses there. Which is of course not recommended in FreeDOS context. Eric _

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS Related source code

Hi Martin, > Are there any good lists of DOS software available > (or that used to be available)? I guess you mean commercial software, not just this? Or at least shareware, freeware etc.? All old stuff? https://gitlab.com/FDOS Or the up to 20 GB (?) here: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

Hi Robert, thanks for the reviews and details :-) In short I suggest to add INFOPLUS, DOSZIP and DN to default install... >>> Once I received (TASM) source code for >>> >>> under "do whatever you want this it, bu

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via USB

Hi Bryan & Frank, > As you had suggested, on the FreeDOS PC, in C:\MSNET\ I entered "start". > Then I could ping from that PC to my printer, Ubuntu PC and Ubuntu laptop. Cool! Thanks for creating the network zip :-) What is in that start bat file and which packages with which licenses are requi

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via USB

Dear Bryan, > My FreeDOS PC's FDCONFIG.SYS file now says this. > Should I put `!' before the BREAK and STACKS statements? That is not necessary. Actually I find it a bit odd that the default config used ! so frequently. Tastes differ :-) Eric ___ F

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

Hi Robert, > Once I received source code for > > under "do whatever you want this it, but don't bug me". > > I think, it's a 1.75 WIP version, so I'm not sure, it works or even > builds. (Requires TASM to build.)

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via USB

Dear Bryan, feel free to notify the bootablecd.de maintainer that you would prefer less contrast for the Blinky mascot background to distract visitors less from reading the text on the page. > My FreeDOS PC's FDCONFIG.SYS file contents follow. That seems to be one of the default versions. Inde

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and screen readers for blind users

Hi Felix, > The primary reason is that I want to keep Windows on my hard > drive and I don't feel confident about using a boot manager. Disclaimer: The following only works if your Windows C: drive is NTFS! It does not work with ancient Windows on FAT C: drive. You could try the following: Use

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and screen readers for blind users

Hi Felix, given that you have a hardware serial port speech synthesizer, there is a lot more optimism now! By the way, why do you want to boot from USB? While many PC can boot from USB, the access speed can be quite low and a few BIOS fail to support writes. I assume you also have the right DOS

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and screen readers for blind users

Hello Felix! Not sure what the license of the ASAP screen reader is? If I understand you correctly, it sends the text or an encoded version over a serial port to the host OS, in your case Windows? What is the license of the text to speech tool on the Windows size? Have people tried to do the s

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on UEFI and other present and future hardware tricks

Hi Tom, > now it would be interesting to hear about these 'heavy' updates, that > happened completely in the dark for FreeDOS developers. > > what do they do? fix bugs? improve compatibility? where are they > documented? > > it would be cool to let the freedos kernel developers decide if these

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via USB

G'day Bryan, >> That would of course be the EASIEST option as long as your PC >> and your printer both still have Centronics connectivity > > The PC does, but the printer doesn't. Hm, I found the following. > {USB to Parallel Bi-Directional Cable > >     USB to Parallel Bi-Directional Cable   

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

Hi Jim, the current Diskman website links to archive.org for some of the content and "inside" the archived website you can jump to http://web.archive.org/web/20070206182142/http://www.diskman.co.uk/license.aspx Which contains the following, as of 2/2007, emphasis added by me: "- Diskman is li

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS on UEFI and other present and future hardware tricks

Hi Jim, everybody, > I get a lot of the emails you described. People email me to ask why > FreeDOS doesn't run on their Raspberry Pi like Linux does .. or why > FreeDOS can't take advantage of multiple CPUs and cores like Linux > does .. or why FreeDOS can't run on their UEFI-only system (no > "

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

Hi Jim, interesting that the DISKMAN website just WORKED. The idea to view it using archive.org came from Robert, maybe it did not work from his area? Odd. > I downloaded 4.2.a3 from the author's website > http://www.diskman.co.uk/ and while there's no Readme > file, running the program prints

[Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

Hi! Recently I have noticed that our ibiblio contains "DM21" https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/disk/dm/ which has only bare binaries inside. So I wondered what it is. Now Robert, who says I should not thank him, has found the URL http://web.archive.org/web/200702080

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

Hi! Thanks for clarifying that the installer always asks (and hopefully explains) before choices with big consequences :-) >> Do not tell ME, announce it during the install ;-) > Based on my interpretation of the design constraints > required for the installer, that ain’t gonna happen. Not sure

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

Hi Jerome, others, of course suggestions are just suggestions and depend on whether you have time to work on them and what others think :-) Some feedback to you replies... Given the point "slow boot, slow install, too few apps", I still think Lite should not be too lite and Live should have sign

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

Hi Jerome, Laaca, others, Given that I have verbose thoughts about Laaca's review and your replies to it, I hope you have some time. Thank you for reading. > Many people run FreeDOS on bare metal... > > However, the overwhelming vast majority of users do not do that. I guess "many" are still m

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

Hi, forwarding a verbose update of the review from Laaca on BTTR :-) My summary: Better LFN, faster disk I/O, problem of opening many small files on CD being slow (how about using more CACHE, Jerome? Maybe even with read-ahead or similar speed tricks?), problem of the Live CD not having apps pre

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

Hi Jim, >> https://www.bttr-software.de/forum/board_entry.php?id=17794 Of course, fresh replies keep coming in there, too :-) > 1. Ugly FDISK > 2. LiveCD is unusable The Live CD is not useful as "Boot and get tools" CD, but I am not sure whether that is the goal. However, just "Boot as if you

Re: [Freedos-user] problems with FreeDOS 1.3RC....

Hi Ralf, >> https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.3/previews/1.3-rc3/FD13-LiveCD.zip >> >> I don't have any blank CDs so burned the ISO onto a DVD+RW disc > > That won't work, not sure how you have burned a CD ISO image onto a DVD That should actually work wi

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

Hi Liam, there have been TSR to display a clock or other status in DOS, at a selectable location or by reserving a whole line on screen. About your suggestion to show which drives exist at boot: The installer could use VOL, a FOR loop and testing whether or not a drive exists to display such in

Re: [Freedos-user] problems with FreeDOS 1.3RC....

Hi Glenn, about booting 1.3rc3 ISO from DVD+RW: > https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.3/previews/1.3-rc3/FD13-LiveCD.zip > Booted it up on this Intel i5 machine which has a SATA DVD+RW drive > ERROR: Unable to initialize CD-ROM drive. > ... Intel DualCore m

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

Hi TK Chia, > Apparently the review was from Laaca --- the author of Blocek. Yes, I mean that post. However, I have only quoted part of the post and not mentioned the name because my impression was that just publicly shouting how horrible and disgusting FreeDOS is cannot be the start of a produc

[Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

Hi! Forwarding something from the BTTR forum: "I tried to use the FreeDOS 1.3RC installation CD. Because I found a Dell Latitude610 notebook. And I am really dispappointed because it is something really awful. The live system is unusable, the boot process ends in the minimal configuration unable

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS on (very) small form factor PCs?

Hi Adam, while the ability to provide ISA-like DMA for PCI (e.g. sound cards) or PCIe basically vanished at least 10 years ago, I am less pessimistic about BIOS services. Can you give specific examples of too stripped down BIOSes in recent mainboards? Wikipedia sounds more as if it took until 20

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS on (very) small form factor PCs?

Hi! > There are PCEngines ALIX boards (AMD Geode) with VGA out, one > minipci slot. They are known to run FreeDOS. You probably > have to install it with PXE because there's no floppy or > CDROM drive. According to https://www.pcengines.ch/alix.htm they are end of life and those few with VGA ar

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS on (very) small form factor PCs?

Hi Tom, >> ...the board format does not matter much. >> It's the CPU model/generation that matters. > > NOT. AT. ALL. > > each Intel/AMD CPU produced the last 20 years is able > to execute the same way that the previous versions did. The point is that everything which is remotely similar to a

Re: [Freedos-user] hardware recommendations

Hi Christoph, > From what I've gathered getting FreeDOS running on "modern" hardware is > not trivial (if certain features are required/wished for) and the > general experience running it in a virtual environment might be much > better. I'll probably first go this (virtual) route and later... T

Re: [Freedos-user] hardware recommendations

Hi Liam, > CSM is short for Compatibility Support Module. It is a module that > enables UEFI firmware to also support "legacy" booting, i.e. BIOS > compatibility. Windows 7 required this. > > UEFI vs BIOS is either-or. A single machine can't have both There are machines where you can select wh

Re: [Freedos-user] game development for FreeDOS

Hi! > I'm looking for ressources regarding game development for FreeDOS. > I couldn't find anything in the wiki, but maybe I didn't use the > correct keywords. For game development, there is no difference between FreeDOS and other DOS versions. You can either read the classic resources from the

Re: [Freedos-user] hardware recommendations

> which hardware would you recommend for running FreeDOS? > Are there any "modern" main boards that provide the neccessary BIOS > compatibility for running FreeDOS? > Is there a hardware compatibility list available? Regarding your hardware question: Obviously, you need a computer which still ha

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via network

Hi Bryan, > PCISCAN showed: > Bus 1 > Dev C > Func 0 > Slot 2C > Vend 0006 > Dev. 100E > Class Name Network > Subclass Name Ethernet. In case the vendor is something else, this might be an Intel 82540EM Gigabit LAN controller. If 0006:100e is indeed correct, it i

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via USB

Hi Thomas, > If using a USB keyboard (and USB mouse), there is the problem that > when starting the USB driver (USBUHCI from Bret Johnsons USButils > collection), the Keyboard stops working. So you can’t start the > keyboard driver next, which seems should done to get somewhere. The trick would

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via USB / deprecate or improve PRINT queue tools?

Hi Bryan, I believe you have to install DOS USB drivers first. And actually it could work better to use the NETWORK for printing, because DOS (wired LAN) network drivers are more evolved than DOS USB drivers and you can use DOS versions of NETCAT or other tools to copy the contents you want to pr

Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot FreeDOS + WINDOWS ?

Hi Thomas, > A dual boot Windows+FreeDos would be absolutely my preferred system... Can your Windows version resize itself? Can it create a FAT partition for DOS in some other way? Then I think you should do that, maybe already copy the contents of the DOS install disk there and boot the DOS in

Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

Hi Thomas, indeed A: and B: are reserved for floppy drives. The rest is for partitions found at boot and after that, drives accessed by drivers can be added. So if you do not see the USB stick after booting from harddisk, it probably just means that the USB driver does not work. As said, it can

Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

Hello Jerome, > Without functioning support for the the CD/DVD drive, the CD should > still boot. That is not handled by a CD/DVD driver in FreeDOS. This gives you at least two possibilities: 1. Use the ELTORITO driver for BIOS-assisted access to the CD/DVD drive. It only works after booting f

Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

Hi! > I never managed to install Freedos on a harddisk via the “live CD 1.3” or 1.2 > version (image). There are two problems: 1. where the installer expects the packages in terms of drive letters and 2. whether you can partition the disk to create a primary LBA FAT partition, format it and mak

Re: [Freedos-user] HP 2133

Hello Marcolino, > Apologize me for not being very specific, but i was going to ask about > sound drivers. My main idea is to use it for retrogaming, altough i'd > like to know if i could use an Image Viewer or even a Media Player. > Maybe even a eReader. You could probably use a media player a

Re: [Freedos-user] HP 2133

Hi Marcolino, > I've restored an HP 2133 Mini-Note PC recently and i've > installed FreeDOS on it. > > Is there some driver compatible with this laptop? If you could tell us which components you cannot use at the moment because you are looking for DOS drivers, I could give a more specific answ

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

Hi Liam, if I understand you correctly then you say I behaved as if you were not well-informed when you said that config files have different names in FreeDOS. Now given that you ARE well informed, you must have been talking about something else than config.sys and autoexec.bat because those 2 C

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

Hi Liam, >> Please mention a few examples of differences :-) > Different names for config files are the start. If you have only autoexec.bat and config.sys then FreeDOS will use those. The reason why FreeDOS first tries fdconfig.sys is that you can install FreeDOS and MS DOS on the same drive

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

Hi Liam, > I personally prefer running PC DOS 7.1 or DR-DOS. The small differences > in FreeDOS irritate me, and I am more familiar with these versions. Please mention a few examples of differences :-) > I was an expert in DOS manual memory management and could usually get > circa 620 kB free

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

>> Or something like Dosbian Linux on Raspberry Pi which >> just immediately boots into only a DOS window. >> > Is it known here whether this supports proprietary SVGA text modes, (e.g. > Trident's 132x43, 132x30, 13

Re: [Freedos-user] Using a USB stick and an optical drive

Hi Thomas, > I just found a recipe regarding USB-Sticks & MS-DOS. > SOURCE: https://slomkowski.eu/retrocomputing/usb-mass-storage-on-ms-dos/ Well, the old USBASPI drivers might work for you, yes. Or those by Bret Johnson. Or those by Georg Potthast: http://www.georgpotthast.de/usb/ The gener

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

Hi! > - want to get rid of networking on my „composing tool“ If that means you want audio in DOS, then I strongly recommend running DOS inside a hardware simulation and NOT directly on hardware. Because VERY few apps for DOS will be able to work with modern sound chips directly. Accessing a simu

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS was dead...

Hi Thomas, > Any particular Linux flavor you suggest for this? > (I would go for a „command line interface“ only.) That sounds masochistic ;-) As long as you do not need 3d accelerated drivers, a graphical desktop for Linux should work on almost all hardware just automatically. Of course you wil

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS was dead...

Hi Thomas, >> "I want to boot to freeDOS using a CD ROM. That should be easy. >> Then I want to insert a memory stick into the computer and copy >> a file from the Windows HDD onto the memory stick. That can be complicated. Often, the BIOS only helps DOS with USB access after you have actuall

Re: [Freedos-user] Using a USB stick and an optical drive

Hi Stephanos, > Dell ... looked at the problem and confirmed that: > 1) there is no BIOS update offered for my laptop, N5030 > 2) that the BIOs update that I was using is for model M5030, > which has an AMD processor.  Mine has an Intel processor That explains a lot! > 3) they are not going to

Re: [Freedos-user] Recovery of a file on a non booting Windows computer

Hey! > I want to boot to freeDOS using a CD ROM.  Then I want to insert a > memory stick into the computer and copy a file from the Windows HDD onto > the memory stick.  Is this possible and if so which version of freeDOS > do I use? If you ask me: Do not use DOS for that. Your Windows is probab

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS was dead...

Hi! > The Raspberry Pi which is sadly a proprietary hardware > platform, does nut support DOS.  I thought it did by some miracle.  It > doesn't.  Apparently, nobody has released a hypervisor for the Raspberry > Pi 4 that will emulate an 80386 or earlier well enough to run FreeDOS or > any DOS wit

[Freedos-user] AMI and other BIOS flash tools for DOS, Windows and Linux

Hi! Changing the subject to make this link-collection easier to find, but feel free to reply in the original thread instead. > Greetings one and all, here is an update > > I followed the instructions on the Dell website: > https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-uk/000131486/update-the-dell-bios-

Re: [Freedos-user] Using a USB stick and an optical drive

Hi! > OK, and thanks to all.  I have now read the Dell website about updating > from within Linux and noted the fact that I should use FreeDOS base 1.0 Or newer, I guess. > Although the upgrade will not give me Virtualisation, I have another > reason for continuing with upgrading the BIOS.  It

Re: [Freedos-user] Using a USB stick and an optical drive

Now that we have clarified that the BIOS update tool can be used with either Windows or DOS... >> get a copy of RUFUS for Linux. > https://www.how2shout.com/tools/rufus-for-linux-not-available-use-these-best-alternatives.html Those tools are mostly for making bootable USB sticks from ISO image

Re: [Freedos-user] CTMouse Buttons programming?

Hi Thomas, > I have a (normal) two button mouse and want to change the behaviour > of a mouse button to act as if I pressed the »CONTROL« key on the > keyboard. > Use case: A DOS application where the mouse acts as a pointer without > the need to click. This suggests to use the mouse buttons for

Re: [Freedos-user] CTMouse Buttons programming?

Hi! > Has anyone out there achieved programming the right > mouse button to a modifier key, e.g. Control? > > I can‘t find any info on the forum or at CTmouse > (CuteMouse) in Freedos which otherwise works fine. Please explain your problem. Do you have a mouse with only one button and want cont

Re: [Freedos-user] Using a USB stick and an optical drive

Hi Stephanos, > 1) I have WINE on my laptop and run several MS applications.  Is it safe > to treat the BIOS upgrade file as an application and run it in WINE? That will not help. Wine can run Windows apps, but you want to update the BIOS in your real hardware, not inside a Wine window on Linux.

Re: [Freedos-user] Using a USB stick and an optical drive

Hi Michael, so if I understand correctly, he has both DOS and Windows versions of the update tool. I would NOT recommend to run any of those in a virtual environment like DOSBOX and hope to have any effect on the actual hardware. So indeed, to use the DOS BIOS update tool, booting FreeDOS on the

Re: [Freedos-user] Using a USB stick and an optical drive

Hi! I do not understand where Windows and ReactOS are getting into the equation here. If you have Linux, you can search in your software center whether you find an app to install BIOS updates. If you have some DOS tool for that, you should run DOS for the tool, not Windows. As your update is mor

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

Hi Rugxulo, > Richard Stallman has not been convicted by a court. He is not in > prison. Let's not burn his house down over pathetic words. That is not the point. > He's not perfect. He doesn't have to be. To be in a leading position in an organisation which tries to be a good example in the

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

Hi all! Looking at the links provided by TK Chia and in Jim's blog, Stallman has (and caused) a real problem, so I agree that he should not be in that new powerful position he now got. And I do not think that this is cancel culture censoring unpopular thoughts. He can share his thoughts as much

Re: [Freedos-user] formatting floppies

Hi Bob, > I need to low level format a bunch of older 1440k floppies that are > starting to lose their integrity. A low level format often works to > revitalize them. But, I could not get the FreeDOS formatter to do > anything but reformat the directory area. Can a full low-level format > of 144

Re: [Freedos-user] Raspberry Pi ISA card (was: networking/wifi)

Hi! To add some thoughts, rambling and brainstorming here... interestingly, classic PCI is the sweet spot for DOS networking. It has better plug n play detection than ISA and is not too new for DOS drivers to exist. Fast and easy interfaces include printer (sound: Covox), IDE and maybe even flo

Re: [Freedos-user] networking/wifi

Thanks for the links, Louis :-) While the price could be a lot lower, the https://www.cbmstuff.com/proddetail.php?prod=WiModem232 https://www.cbmstuff.com/proddetail.php?prod=WiModem232&review=all mentioned on one of the pages is pretty similar to what I had in mind: some WiFi controller plus a

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 LiveCD hangs with lenovo ryzen 5 3500u

Hi! > Hello > > I'm having issues with booting FreeDOS 1.3 in live environment in my > Lenovo Ideapad S145 Laptop. After booting syslinux and isolinux, both > options, either install or boot into live environment, fail to load. It > loads memdisk and the fdlive image and hangs. > > I've tested

Re: [Freedos-user] networking/wifi

Hi! To do some additional name-dropping on the DOS WiFi topic here: https://www.olimex.com/Products/IoT/ESP32/ESP32-GATEWAY/open-source-hardware https://www.hackster.io/techbase_group/arduino-esp32-serial-port-to-tcp-converter-via-wifi-66d341 https://github.com/martin-ger/esp_wifi_repeater/blo

Re: [Freedos-user] networking/wifi

Hi! > Am just wondering if this is the current status, or some old comment: > > "Wireless devices connected via USB can not yet be used with FreeDOS." > > (http://freedos.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/WiFi) This meant "USB dongles which serve as WiFi or Bluetooth modems have no DOS drivers"

Re: [Freedos-user] fdnet.bat

Hi! > lspci -nn -vvv | grep Ethernet You can also use PCISLEEP Q02 to get a list of network devices in DOS, or you could use PCISLEEP L to get a full list of PCI devices in your system :-) As this tool is quite small, it will at most tell you the brand names, not the product names, but you can

Re: [Freedos-user] fdnet.bat

Hi! If that means that fdnet knows which driver WOULD match a given PCI ID, could it DISPLAY that info and let the user dig up the recommended driver manually? What does the current fdnet version do in such cases, silently load another driver in the hope that the hardware would actually be virtua

Re: [Freedos-user] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter (was IDE <-> CF adapters)

Hi Jon, actually I do not expect "drivers" like OnTrack, Ez Drive etc. to mess with host protected areas. They just redirect attempts to access the disk by BIOS to their own code, which modifies the BIOS call parameters. Which is why OS which access disks without using the BIOS have to be config

Re: [Freedos-user] [OT] BIOS weirdness with SATA/IDE adapter

Hi! First, a short note to Dave, Mercury and Random: You can safely ignore the mails with "[OT]" in the subject, as the thread has been forked to keep faith and BIOS separate topics. Thanks :-) https://www.discovery.org/m/2020/04/Scientific-Dissent-from-Darwinism-List-04072020.pdf> "The Discov

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