Ted Husted wrote:
At this point, I'm reconciled to do more work on the Jakata site using
XML in the old-fashioned way.
I can't resonate more with your feelings. That's exactly what made me
started the 'forrest' effort: the coherence on xml.apache.org and the
ease of update has been slowly
As a newbie (only 1.5 years around) I found the small bio posted by
Stefano on the Cocoon-dev list very interesting and instructive.
This post was triggered by curiosity and know-your-community concerns
that popped up in a couple of Cocoon-dev threads less than 2 months
ago. IMO, the fact that
Here we go again,
-Original Message-
From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 4:45 AM
Playing Devil's advocate. I think it's fair to push back on adding things
to Jakarta...
On 1/5/02 9:53 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/6/02 12:18 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here we go again,
Alas.
-Original Message-
From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 4:45 AM
Playing Devil's advocate. I think it's fair to push back on adding things
to
Again...
-Original Message-
From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 6:14 PM
On 1/6/02 12:11 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... Lots of is it server or is it client talk ...
I just mean that sometimes saying that something is
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 04:14, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
BTW, do you know they use Velocity for something???
Who, POI?
Cocoon have a VelocityGenerator (the first stage in their XML transformation
pipeline).
--
Cheers,
Pete
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you've made a
Answer inline
-Original Message-
From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 3:53 AM
...
I can not express this POV better than Linus did in posts reported
by
this article:
http://kerneltrap.org/article.php?sid=398
Any corporation
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
In my mind, all this long trail of thoughs yields the following
equation:
metacommunity size * community coherence * individual freedom =
constant
in result, if we unify the two projects, we double the size of the
metacommunity and we must pay the price of
At 10:40 AM 1/5/02 -0500, you wrote:
I would also like to personally commend Jon with his efforts to better
document Jakarta. He has put a lot into the Web site (probably 90%), and
we all owe him a great debt.
-Ted.
Despite Jon's candid remarks, as you put it, Ted, I too would like him to
Hello,
Each structure has a cost depending on his level of organization. I think
there is today to many project in the jakarta and the xml project. I feel
confuse about finding the right information at the right place. And I think
it's high time to merge xml and jakarta.
The way java is
At 15:31 05.01.2002 +0100, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
[Snip]
In my mind, all this long trail of thoughs yields the following
equation:
metacommunity size * community coherence * individual freedom = constant
This equation is misleading. Coherence and individual freedom are
not inversely
Chris,
I think you are confusing project categorization with project community. These things
are very much unrelated. Regards, Ceki
At 23:44 05.01.2002 +0100, you wrote:
Hello,
Each structure has a cost depending on his level of organization. I think
there is today to many project in the
Ceki Gülcü wrote:
IMHO, XML does not and will never have a community as long as two of
its most important projects directly compete with each other. The
success of one is related with the failure of the other. XML
Community? Won't happen in a million years. How the did Crimson
become an
At 18:02 05.01.2002 -0500, you wrote:
Ceki Gülcü wrote:
IMHO, XML does not and will never have a community as long as two of
its most important projects directly compete with each other. The
success of one is related with the failure of the other. XML
Community? Won't happen in a million
on 1/5/02 3:02 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Look closely, Xerces 2 is the designated successor to *both* Xerces 1 and
Crimson. The developers *are* working together. I won't pretend that
everything is 100% smooth sailing, but significant progress is being made.
Yea...just like
Not that I should have much of a role in this discussion but I'd like to
contribute some thoughts stemming from an offline discussion I had.
I think this discussion is still missing the point. There are a lot of
outsider articles on what is wrong with Apache these days, most of
them refer to
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 12:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI
@apache]
on 1/5/02 3:02 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Look closely, Xerces 2 is the designated successor to *both*
Xerces
[was Re: [Request For Comment] POI
@apache]
Not that I should have much of a role in this discussion but I'd like to
contribute some thoughts stemming from an offline discussion I had.
I think this discussion is still missing the point. There are a lot of
outsider articles on what is wrong
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
It's my understanding that Apache Projects' unity of purpose is
to encourage a collaborative, consensus-based development process
What does that exactly mean?
Perhaps Stefano's original preamble said it best
http://java.apache.org/main/constitution.html
On 1/5/02 7:28 PM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am not trying to be combative - I have watched this thread (and
participated) with growing discomfort. I have to say that I think that
bringing XML and Jakarta together might destroy the thing we are
supposedly
trying to 'save' (again, I
On 1/5/02 9:53 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/5/02 7:28 PM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am not trying to be combative - I have watched this thread (and
participated) with growing discomfort. I have to say that I think that
bringing XML and Jakarta together
Playing Devil's advocate. I think it's fair to push back on adding things
to Jakarta...
On 1/5/02 9:53 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please read these posts and then tell me where you're not clear?
http://www.mail-archive.com/general%40jakarta.apache.org/msg02681.html
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