Re: STCBSST bit of STCBFLG1 of STCB DSECT

Justin R. Bendich wrote: 10. Invoke XDC via its SVC HOOK. Walt Farrell wrote: but have you considered the possibility that step 10 takes you out of subspace mode until you return from the SVC? I write: I know it's not clear from the posts, but... XDC does not run within an SVC. The SVC,

Re: Where to find out about "PER zero-address detection"?

At 4/25/2012 11:19 AM, Bill Fairchild wrote: When all else fails, try Google. [...] Next I would suggest you Google and/or search IBM books for "PER-ZAD". Bill Fairchild Programmer Rocket Software ZAD = "Zombie Awareness Day" (See http://w

The care and feeding of dongles (was: Progress Toward z/OS Personal Use License)

Dongles certainly can be fragile, and longer ones, such as the z/PDT's (around 2 inches or so) can easily be accidentally torqued and broken (or break the socket, whatever). For that reason, I keep a supply of 6" long M/F USB cables which I use to separate the dongle from the PC chassis. That

Re: Malicious Software Protection

At 3/27/2012 04:06 PM, Joel C. Ewing wrote: The concept of allowing average-Joe user to be able to download data from arbitrary sources in arbitrary formats and being able from that to somehow introduce executable code into the system in ways that will execute with special privileges so as to i

Re: Malicious Software Protection

y objective here was to stress that the z/OS architecture is inherently hardened against viruses. The fact that I did not go into explicit protections for APF-authorized programs appears to have been my fatal flaw, according to Mr. Cole. Regardless of what comes back, this will be my last post o

Re: Malicious Software Protection

At 3/27/2012 11:19 AM, Pinnacle wrote: There is a mainframe product that protects against malicious software. It's called SAF, and it interfaces with ESM's like RACF, or ACF2, or TopSecret. "SAF" is not a product. It stands for "System Access Facility" and it is nothing more than an interface

Re: Secret Service Guide

d nothing at all for the four manual numbers that the OP listed. But thanks for the suggestion. Peter > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf Of David Cole > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 4:31 PM > To: IBM-MAI

Re: Secret Service Guide

links to actually download the manuals are either gone (404) or circular. Peter > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf Of David Cole > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 3:20 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subje

Re: Secret Service Guide

Have you tried just Googling the manual numbers? At 3/16/2012 10:45 AM, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2012-03-16 14:44, Zaromil Tisler pisze: Service Guide, IBM System z10 Enterprise Class (GC28-6866-05) < http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=pub1gc28686605> Thank you, I appreciate it. I jus

Re: Program FLIH backdoor - This is a criminal breach of security!

At 3/2/2012 10:25 AM, Edward Jaffe wrote: On 3/2/2012 1:29 AM, David Cole wrote: If the PFLIH hook is (as it has been described earlier in these threads) a mechanism by which a non-authorized process can become authorized, then its very existence is a "substantive offense" in and

Re: Program FLIH backdoor - This is a criminal breach of security!

At 3/1/2012 06:46 PM, Skip Robinson wrote: For years we ran a 'channel extender' product call RDS. It worked by front-endng FLIH for I/O interrupts to determine whether the I/O was to or from a supported device as defined to RDS. If not, the I/O was passed along for normal processing. If so, RD

Re: Program FLIH backdoor - This is a criminal breach of security!

John Gilmore wrote: even though, as I believe, the the offender's code itself commits no substantive offense it it is, I think, guilty of the admittedly much subtler offense of providing a template for others, who are bent on mischief, to use. If the PFLIH hook is (as it has been described ea

Re: Program FLIH backdoor - This is a criminal breach of security!

B PAGE: http://www.colesoft.com 736 Fox Hollow RoadVOICE:540-456-8536 Afton, VA 22920FAX: 540-456-6658 At 3/1/2012 11:52 AM, Edward Jaffe wrote: On 3/1/2012 6:52 AM, David Cole wrote: This is not just despicable, under today's law, it is actually criminal! Any vendor w

Re: Deleting named ISPF edit profiles

written and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion Lis

Deleting named ISPF edit profiles

Does anyone know if there is a way to delete a no longer needed named ISPF edit profile? TIA Dave Cole REPLY TO: dbc...@colesoft.com ColeSoft Marketing WEB PAGE: http://www.colesoft.com 736 Fox Hollow RoadVOICE:540-456-8536 Afton, VA 22920FAX: 540-456-6658

Re: Debugging CICS Global User Exits

Hi Mike, I don't know a thing about CICS, but I do know a little about z/XDC. If you can give me detailed information about a Global User Exit's runtime environment, I might be able to help you out. Dave Cole REPLY TO: dbc...@colesoft.com ColeSoft Marketing WEB PAGE: http://w

z/XDC: Important Maintenance

I have just posted to www.colesoft.com some important maintenance for the z1.13 release of z/XDC. Customers should please download and APPLY it at their earliest convenience. For more information, visit ColeSoft Marketing's Facebook page. Thank you, Dave Cole REPLY TO: dbc...@col

Re: Testing g RTM routine

At 10/28/2011 11:43 AM, Bill Fairchild wrote: After following the advice in all the other previous answers, sooner or later you will still need to know how to test your SRB and its recovery routine. You probably won't be able to instruction-step or trace either very easily with TSOTEST or XDC.

Re: ABEND0F8-20

Thanks Peter. Your answers are directly on point. I appreciate it. Dave At 10/26/2011 07:48 AM, Peter Relson wrote: Due to a screw-up on our part many of the z/OS 1.13 "RMODE 64"-related updates to the books did not make it. This was one. While the books themselves might not get updated for

ABEND0F8-20

Does anyone know what an abend s0F8-20 means? Code 20 is not documented even in R1.13's MVS System Codes manual. I suspect it means that you cannot issue an SVC instruction from above the bar. Can anyone confirm or deny that? Thanks, Dave Cole REPLY TO: dbc...@colesoft.com ColeS

z/XDC z1.13 is now Generally Available

z/XDC release z1.13 has finally been published! It supports z/OS R1.13 and the debugging of code located above the bar. More information can be found at our Facebook page. When on Facebook, just search for "Colesoft Marketing", and then "like" us. A press release can be found at

Re: TCBFX vs. TCBNOIRB

Thanks for the link, Jim. I'll take a look. Dave At 9/30/2011 04:41 PM, Jim Thomas wrote: Sir, Try this ... I think (like Ray) that I have the same manual ... http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/360/os/R21.7_Apr73/plm/GY28-6616-9_OS_IO_Su perv_PLM_R21.7_Apr73.pdf and yes ... it is old ... but f

Re: TCBFX vs. TCBNOIRB

That puts it at z/OS R1.5 At 9/30/2011 04:36 PM, Jim Mulder wrote: > Wow, it actually dated back 1981, 1983. I do not even realize TCBNOIRB > didn't exist then. Do you know what z/OS version it was introduced? "Use the source, Luke". I don't always think to look in MACLIB... Would that I

Re: TCBFX vs. TCBNOIRB

At 9/30/2011 04:12 PM, Jim Thomas wrote: The focus is not on IRB's but mainly, the ability to use SRB's .. (this is where I tried to point out IRB vs SRB .. IOW ... with TCBNOIRB ... you can still ... IIRC, use SRB's). "SRBs"? or "SIRBs"? I would be surprised if a TCB setting such as TCBFX wo

Re: TCBFX vs. TCBNOIRB

Interesting... How old is your "Stage 3 exit Effector Logic" manual? (I'm guessing at least a couple of decades.) I *think* that the TCBNOIRB flag might be newer than your manual. I don't know when it was introduced, but I became aware of TCBNOIRB only within the past year. The TCBFX flag I'

Re: TCBFX vs. TCBNOIRB

Ok, that's a policy difference and is good to know. Thanks. I'd still like to know what the functional difference is (if any). Thanks, Dave Cole REPLY TO: dbc...@colesoft.com ColeSoft Marketing WEB PAGE: http://www.colesoft.com 736 Fox Hollow RoadVOICE:540-456-8536 Afto

Re: TCBFX vs. TCBNOIRB

etter/reset r' is and obviously, what is being done. Kind Regards Jim Thomas 617-233-4130 (mobile) 636-294-1014(res) j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of

Who uses RBGRSAVE in a task's *oldest* RB?

Here's an interesting question... Given that when a task is interrupted: (1) It's registers (Rn, RHn and ARn) are saved in the TCB and STCB (2) When the interrupt (such as SVCs or program checks or certain asynchronous ones) leads to the creation of a new RB, those saved registers are eventual

TCBFX vs. TCBNOIRB

Can anyone tell me the difference in purpose or management between the TCBFX flag and the TCBNOIRB flag? As far as I know they both are supposed to prevent the queuing of IRBs. In the IKJTCB macro they each are doc'd as follows: TCBNOIRB EQU X'40' - If on, IRBs will not be queued to th

z/XDC release z1.12 is NOT! supported in z/OS R1.13 Systems (repost)

tely so that we may send you our beta of z1.13. Thank You, Dave Cole REPLY TO: dbc...@colesoft.com ColeSoft Marketing WEB PAGE: http://www.colesoft.com 736 Fox Hollow RoadVOICE:540-456-8536 Afton, VA 22920FAX: 540-456-6658 At 8/30/2011 10:54 AM, David Cole w

z/XDC release z1.13

Sometime in September (guess when), we will be publishing release z1.13 of z/XDC. There is more information at our Facebook page. To access it, get onto Facebook, search for "ColeSoft Marketing" and "Like" (i.e. opt in to) our page there. Thanks, Dave Cole REPLY TO: dbc...@cole

Opening up Boulder Doc to user comments??? (was a new POP)

There is a germ of an interesting idea here... What about IBM changing the Boulder online doc (http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp) to permit moderated annotations/commentary arising from user experience???

Re: HLASM Manuals

John, Thanks for asking... How to improve the Assembler manuals? Well, one thing that comes leaping to mind: WRT the Reference, I would really love it if you would put individual build-in functions in the TOC. You do this for Assembler statements and even system variables... Why not for built

Re: Lines, Bars and ... mini-bars???

At 7/10/2011 03:47 PM, Justin R. Bendich wrote: I agree with Scott and Walter that it must be above the bar if it's not addressable in AMODE 31. Understand that that's below GAGALAND, but, yeah, i guess you need another name. What?? That didn't catch on either

Re: Lines, Bars and ... mini-bars???

So... what exactly is "the bar"? There seems to be some disagreement. And that's natural since, being technology developers, we make up our nomenclature as we go along, so variations in nuances (nuancai?) can easily arise... To some, "the bar" is the 2G line... At 7/5/2011 11:00 AM, Tom Ma

Re: Lines, Bars and ... mini-bars???

Hi Bruno, It seems useful to me to have a distinct shorthand way to refer to the 2G line vs. the 4G line. Since "bar" already refers to the 4G line, using "mini-bar" to refer to the 2G line appeals to me. As regards to a "name" for the 2G-4G area, "DEADZONE" is something I came up with back

Re: Lines, Bars and ... mini-bars???

At 7/5/2011 12:02 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Again, not the hardware, but a construct of z/OS which scrunches the PSW to 64 bits, discarding the upper 32 bits of the program address. LPSW loads "scrunched" PSWs... "LPSW" is sorta "in the hardware", isn't it? Just saying... Dave Cole

Lines, Bars and ... mini-bars???

So I'm working on XDC adding support for debugging execution "above the bar", when I run into a nomenclature problem... "Above the line" means >16M. "Above the bar" means >4G. But AMODE(31) supports execution in only the zero to 2G range. For the 2G to 4G range, you need AMODE(64). So what

Re: DCBs and DCBEs - Could IBM have done it any worse?

Hi Peter, Although I have a lot of disagreement over the original design of silently blowing away the DCBE for one (not disclosed) reason from a list of (disclosed much later) reasons, I can certainly understand not wanting to change that behavior now that it has been released into the wild.

Re: DCBs and DCBEs - Could IBM have done it any worse?

At 6/11/2011 01:29 AM, Jim Mulder wrote: The particular documentation to which Ed refers is available only to ISVs who are under nondisclosure. Dave Cole is among those, and thus he should have access to it. For the rest of the IBM-MAIN folks, I will say that it just describes the issue whic

Re: DCBs and DCBEs - Could IBM have done it any worse?

At 6/10/2011 12:37 AM, Edward Jaffe wrote: This issue, and IBM's resolution intended for a release not yet generally available, was covered at the April 2010 TDM (session 36, pp. 84-85). Ah. You, sir, obviously are far more able to stay awake at those meetings than I. Your cite is exactl

Re: DCBs and DCBEs - Could IBM have done it any worse?

At 6/8/2011 05:10 PM, Pommier, Rex R. wrote: Dave, But doesn't everything WAC? (I presume you mean Works As Coded). :-) Rex Uh-huh... Way back in the '70s, when a colleague tried to file an APAR (remember what that actually stands for?) over some now forgotten issue, IBM refused to do s

Re: DCBs and DCBEs - Could IBM have done it any worse?

At 6/8/2011 04:25 PM, Scott Rowe wrote: Dave, I was happy to see that you are only "barking: at the hand that feeds you ;-) Have you opened a PMR with IBM on this to see if it is WAD? Well, it's certainly WAC... For reason's I cannot get into, I am unable to open PMRs... Maybe my rant will

DCBs and DCBEs - Could IBM have done it any worse?

I just shot a bug in z/XDC that occurred only rarely, but once it occurred, it drove me nuts! And frankly, I don't think it's even "my fault". It comes from what seems to me (to put it as politely as I can) to be IBM's clear violation of the principle of least surprise... Ok, first of all

Re: Problems with TSO TEST

At 5/29/2011 12:59 PM, David Cole wrote: [snip] z/XDC, when authorized, security permitted and done with suitable case and intelligence, can test PLPA programs running in place... [recommended, of course, only when playing in a sandbox...] Sorry, that should be "suitable CAR

Re: Problems with TSO TEST

At 5/24/2011 02:36 PM, Binyamin Dissen wrote: TEST 'SYS1.LINKLIB(IEFBR14)' TEST L +0 +0 1BFF07FE TEST L +0 I IKJ57245I INVALID INSTRUCTION CODE AT +0 TEST AT +0 IKJ57306I NO BREAKPOINT ESTABLISHED AT +0 + IKJ57306I INVALID OP CODE TEST END Any ideas? Yeah, try z/XDC... (sorry, couldn

Re: Facebook for professional usage (was Re: Recent maintenance for z/XDC)

At 5/26/2011 10:32 AM, Ralph Robison wrote: In the context of this debate, you may find it interesting to read "IBM Social Computing Guidelines" at http://www.ibm.com/blogs/zz/en/guidelines.html Great find, Ralph! Thanks, Dave Cole REPLY TO: dbc...@colesoft.com ColeSoft Market

Re: Facebook for professional usage (was Re: Recent maintenance for z/XDC)

Please add a third question to your poll... "LinkedIn Specifically"? Thanks At 5/24/2011 01:41 PM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >Most"? (a) Perhaps. (b) Perhaps not. But >Ummm, that's not a "fact" >Ted, that's just a speculation. Actually, it's not. The Toronto Star did a survey a while back and foun

Re: Facebook for professional usage (was Re: Recent maintenance for z/XDC)

At 5/23/2011 09:26 PM, Doug wrote: Cole, The 'Rants and Raves' of the list really do show a unique, though somewhat 'mainframe' view. Glad to see you are still hard at it! Let the Good Karma flow and just sit back and enjoy! Doug Thanks for the encouragement Doug. I appreciate it. [:)]

Re: Facebook for professional usage (was Re: Recent maintenance for z/XDC)

FWIW, I just checked and the number of opt-ins ("likes" in Facebook parlance) is up a bit over 20% since my post. So there's some opinion out there that's not been expressed in this thread. Just saying... But the total is still a substantial minority of our customer base, so all you Eff-book p

Re: Facebook for professional usage (was Re: Recent maintenance for z/XDC)

Thanks for the smile, Ed. Dave At 5/23/2011 05:49 PM, Ed Finnell wrote: _http://www.dilbert.com/2011-05-22/_ (http://www.dilbert.com/2011-05-22/) In a message dated 5/23/2011 4:47:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, dbc...@colesoft.com writes: But if I choose "a", I certainly will learn less t

Re: Facebook for professional usage (was Re: Recent maintenance for z/XDC)

At 5/23/2011 03:44 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote: I'd also be concerned about too many "wanna be's" cluttering a professional's mailbox with inappropriate and/or senseless replies to legitimate technical questions. (a) Could happen. (b) Might not. Personally, I doubt it will be a problem. But if I

Re: Facebook for professional usage (was Re: Recent maintenance for z/XDC)

Why are vendors and organizations using Facebook for professional use? I am seeing this more and more often. Our use of Facebook is experimental at this stage... We are trying it for several reasons. First, because I (and a LOT of other people) do use Facebook socially, so I (and a LOT of oth

Recent maintenance for z/XDC

I have posted new maintenance for z/XDC. For details please visit our Facebook page. You can find it by going onto Facebook and searching for ColeSoft. Thank You, Dave Cole REPLY TO: dbc...@colesoft.com ColeSoft Marketing WEB PAGE: http://www.colesoft.com 736 Fox Hollow Road

Re: z/XDC Release z1.12 now avaiable

I'm betting you will use that a lot... At 1/21/2011 02:36 PM, Edward Jaffe wrote: On 1/21/2011 10:40 AM, David Cole wrote: I'm curious. What did you find? Programmer can now (fairly easily) display storage being accessed in a JES2-owned data space by an SRB-mode program. -

Re: z/XDC Release z1.12 now avaiable

I'm curious. What did you find? At 1/20/2011 03:47 PM, Edward Jaffe wrote: On 1/18/2011 1:46 PM, David Cole wrote: z/XDC release z1.12 is now fully available. Major new features include: Installed and operational here. Already found a use for one of the new facilities. Great job,

z/XDC Release z1.12 now avaiable

z/XDC release z1.12 is now fully available. Major new features include: - SRB debugging support improvements - New reporting commands regarding access lists and data spaces - The ability to access (display and zap) data spaces that previously were not accessible - Improvements i

Re: Why does TEST ... (Comments WRT z/XDC)

At 11/9/2010 04:23 PM, Binyamin Dissen wrote: Why does TEST cancel breakpoints on BRC instructions? Any ideas why this weird restriction exists? z/XDC does not have this restriction. At 11/9/2010 05:45 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote: I seriously doubt if TEST has been updated in "donkey's years

Re: Mainframe hacking?

At 10/14/2010 07:54 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote: For example, why do IDCAMS and IEBCOPY have to be authorized? The IEBCOPY replacement doesn't have to be authorized. Would it be worthwhile for both vendors and users to see what t

Re: Mainframe hacking?

At 10/14/2010 12:24 PM, Chris Craddock wrote: (as Bob knows) it is impossible to create/install a malicious FLIH or SVC or PC without already having the keys to the kingdom anyway. That is the foundation of integrity and the reason why the installation has to appropriately protect system datase

Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd - 24/7 DASD on PCs

At 10/8/2010 03:35 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote: -- My 2 cents worth: the "cheap DASD" doesn't live up to the reliability standards that IBM demands for z/OS. Stop and think, really hard, about the demands on z/OS DASD storage, as o

Re: Mainframe hacking?

At 10/13/2010 10:26 AM, Greg Shirey wrote: I liked this article, and it's fairly recent. (Jan 2010) http://www.mainframezone.com/it-management/mainframe-hacking-fact-or-fiction/P1 Greg I read that article, and it is a good one. Interestingly (to me at least), on the article's third web page

Please disregard prior email from LEA COLE. It's biogus. We got hacked. Sorry

If you just now received an URGENT HELP NEEDED email from my wife, Lea Cole, please disregard it. Here gmail account got hijacked. We're trying to fix it now. Sorry, Dave Cole -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

z/XDC release z1.12, beta #2 posted: z/Enterprise machine instructions supported

Hi All, I have just posted beta build #2 for z/XDC's upcoming release z1.12. z/XDC is a development and debugging tool for Assembler Language code. This build includes support for the new z/Enterprise machine instructions (all of them). Also, this release includes a growing set of "Helper Di

Re: z/OS V1.12 differences and z196 (the new mainframe) impacts

At 9/13/2010 09:23 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:35:45 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote: > >* GETMAIN now returns address of gotten area in R1 with the > leftmost word being all binary zeros, so address can be > treated as a 64-bit address > Unconditionally? That would break su

Re: 3270 Emulator Software

David Cole ✆ to IBM show details 6:19 AM (25 minutes ago) Quoting from " http://tinyurl.com/3xybhe8": >"Each individual Samsung LCD has a 19-inch diameter screen" Uh ... Diagonal? On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Edward Jaffe wrote: > Ed Finnell wrote: &

Re: PoPs

Rick, The -08 edition of the PoPs won't be out until September sometime. Meanwhile, what *IS* published is this: http://share.confex.com/share/115/webprogram/Session7034.html Dave Cole REPLY TO: dbc...@colesoft.com ColeSoft Marketing WEB PAGE: http://www.colesoft.com 736 Fox H

z/XDC announcement: Release z1.12 is now available for beta test

z/XDC release z1.12 is now available for beta testing. Major new features include: - SRB debugging support improvements - New reporting commands regarding access lists and data spaces - The ability to access (display and zap) data spaces that previously were not accessible - Improve

Re: File 120 now has 2 new articles

WOW! Of all the tools available on PCs for writing and packaging content, why on EARTH would you choose .XMI ! That certainly will keep your circle of readers ... umm ... "exclusive". Dave Cole REPLY TO: dbc...@colesoft.com ColeSoft Marketing WEB PAGE: http://www.colesoft.

Re: Need tool to zap core

It's not free, but z/XDC will do the trick. Even more, it can also zap storage that's been made "read only" (such as the PLPA, "read-only" sections of the nucleus, and any other page that has been made read-only by the PGSER macro). If your client has z/XDC, then this would be an easy way to a

Re: Assembler variable with @

I sometimes use a trailing @ (in a symbol's name) as a personal convention to indicate that the field contains an address. But as noted elsewhere, the Assembler treats the @ (and the $ and the #) no differently from an alphabetic letter. Dave Cole REPLY TO: dbc...@colesoft.com Col

New DSCOPY Program Posted

I have just posted to ColeSoft's website a new version of my DSCOPY program. The link is www.colesoft.com/Downloads/downloads_utilities.html. DSCOPY and everything else that you find on that page is free. DSCOPY is a generalized sequential file copying program. It features include the follow

Re: Mainframe hacking (getting back on topic)

At 7/20/2009 04:49 PM, Patrick O'Keefe wrote: I think you were saying that you have the keys to the realm if you are an authorized program and IBM requires authorization for far too many services, so it is far too easy to stick back-door code in a program that "needs" to be authorized. Basica

Re: Mainframe hacking (getting back on topic)

ebackdoors.html Dave Cole At 7/20/2009 02:03 PM, Steve Comstock wrote: Dave, It sounds really interesting. But the link takes me to a page where it is asking me to login and it has pre-filled in your email address. Just a heads up. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend

Re: Mainframe hacking (getting back on topic)

Does anyone here recall any published news articles or incidents involving mainframe hacking (any flavor of VM, VSE or MVS)? Do you personally know of any incidents? Or have any such been kept on the QT? A couple of years ago, there was a thread called "Back doors". I posted something ther

Announcement: Release z1.10 of z/XDC is now available

For Assembler Programmers: I have just posted our latest release (z1.10) of z/XDC. For more information, contact Bob Shimizu at r...@colesoft.com. Thanks Dave Cole REPLY TO: dbc...@colesoft.com ColeSoft Partners WEB PAGE: http://www.colesoft.com 736 Fox Hollow RoadVOICE:

Re: Slightly crazy idea to speed up EX instructions (XDC issue?)

On Feb 19, 2009, at 14:43, David Cole wrote: The reverse case, though, is problematic: When you EX the immediately following instruction, z/XDC's tracing process can get stuck. Years ago, though, I had one customer who actually liked this "defect". When he learned of this,

Re: Name/tokens

d find a better way to code to my product's needs. If you feel that we are not competent enough to correctly determine our own needs, then why are you even talking to us? David Cole At 9/11/2008 07:28 AM, Peter Relson wrote: Every response to my query seems to have missed the poi

Re: Name/tokens

At 9/10/2008 09:50 AM, Rob Scott wrote on IBM-MAIN: Peter, In the past, I have seen software that uses part of the "name" as a constant prefix and then places variable information in the later part of the name (maybe ASID, TCB or subsystem "instance" or whatever the developer wanted) - I imag

Re: Code Page 1047 vs 037 - Green card confusion

At 7/7/2008 12:15 PM, Edward Jaffe wrote: They [code pages 1047 and 037] are not the same. [snip] People still using the old code page 037 probably see funny looking "garbage" characters in IBM-provided macros and other code. [...] On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:01:02 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: I hav

Re: Code Page 1047 vs 037 - "3278T" setting

At 7/8/2008 05:41 AM, Larre Shiller wrote: At 7/7/2008 06:55 PM, Edward Jaffe wrote: Try setting your terminal type in ISPF Settings to '6' = 3278T. Ed - I don't know how you figure this stuff out, but that did the trick! Amazing...! Thanks! Larre Shiller US Social Security Administratio

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

The Mellon Bank Mods were written prior to JES2's ability to run more than one converter process. Consequently, they do not guarantee serialization for the same reason that CNVTNUM=>2 users don't get serialization. For more info, see: http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0805&L=IBM-MAIN&P=R89127

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2

The OP is an ISV concerned only about his own internal product GEN process. At 5/27/2008 10:40 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: If, as we may suspect, the OP is an ISV targeting customer platforms, he may encounter difficulties with customers' job name standards? Is there a scriptable way to release o

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

wrote: David Cole wrote: >All I was suggesting was a very simple mechanism by which jobs could be guaranteed to run in the order submitted, nothing more, nothing less. This guarantee is already there for some JES2 users (those with CNVTNUM=1). Why not make it possible for everybody? Seeing

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

simple way by which JES2 could be changed so that it could guarantee job sequencing, should a user want it. That is a far cry from job scheduling. At 5/23/2008 11:16 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Fri, 23 May 2008 14:16:55 -0400, David Cole wrote: As noted in my prior post, I think it i

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

Thanks Sam! You're response was immensely better than mine would have been. Dave At 5/23/2008 10:11 PM, Knutson, Sam wrote: OTOH IBM-MAIN is a great place to brain storm and refine a requirement before submitting it to IBM as a marketing request or through SHARE. A unique audience of customer

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2

At 5/23/2008 05:58 PM, Shane wrote: On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 10:27 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: Actually, JES3 *is* available as a free alternative in Dave's new development "home". Define "free" - it may not cost any more (presuming Daves new "home" is Dallas), but the effort might not be insigni

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (the details)

Ahhh. That would make good sense. Thanks, Dave At 5/23/2008 03:24 PM, Edward Jaffe wrote: David Cole wrote: and it all runs in one batch job Well For a full gen, that would run to somewhere near a thousand steps. Doesn't that blow JES2's JCT limit? (or something like that.

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

Hi Sam, You had me until I read this: A few final notes concerning the relationship between /*BEFORE, and /*AFTER. Many people try to use these statements, and stack two or more jobs in the same PDS member and submit them all at the same time with one SUBMIT command. This usually works as

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (the details)

I'll be really, really off the wall. Why not use make? It can be set up to do the updates, then if they succeed, do all the compiles (and it can be told to ignore the RC of the compile), then do the linkedit. It really is set up to run off of UNIX files, but I'll bet there is a way to have it r

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (the details)

Ever considered using SCLM? No. I've never examined SCLM. Sounds like I should get off by lazy butt and check it out. and it all runs in one batch job Well For a full gen, that would run to somewhere near a thousand steps. Doesn't that blow JES2's JCT limit? (or something like th

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

At 5/23/2008 02:23 PM, Staller, Allan wrote: WLM managed Init's? IIRC, Jobs are placed in queue in FIFO order within Service Class. The trouble is, your "FIFO order" is the order in which the collective converters finish processing their jobs and place them onto the execution queues. Because

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

As noted in my prior post, I think it is a shame that the IBM-JES2 folks make it so difficult to serialize a thread of jobs. It seems to me that this is such an obvious thing to want to do, but when JES2 is started with CNVTNUM=>2 (and there are strong reasons for must shops to want to do this)

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (the details)

At 5/23/2008 08:37 AM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >This is where scheduling package comes into play to prevent such incidents and tales of war stories describing such horrors. ;-D That assumes Production Batch. I don't believe Dave's stuff is Production. And, it's rare that non-Production is allowed t

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2

e DBC)) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cole Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 At 5/23/2008 08:25 AM, Mark Zelden wrote

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2

At 5/23/2008 08:25 AM, Mark Zelden wrote: On Fri, 23 May 2008 04:25:10 -0400, David Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi, > >I have a process that submits up to a couple of hundred jobs for >execution. I require that these jobs execute in the same order in >which they w

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2

At 5/23/2008 04:58 AM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: |Is there an "official" way to enforce job execution sequencing? JES2 has never guaranteed that jobs will execute in the same order as submitted. It depends on how long it takes to convert. Bingo. Thanks for jarring my memory. So I went to the books

Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2

Hi, I have a process that submits up to a couple of hundred jobs for execution. I require that these jobs execute in the same order in which they were submitted. For decades I have accomplished this by assigning all of the jobs to a specific job class and then insuring that there was never m

Re: A Refreshing Change (Was: switch from CA-SYSVIEW to SDSF)

At 4/24/2008 09:15 AM, McKown, John wrote: World Class? Is that __all__?? From the users, it sounds more like at least Solar class! Maybe even Globular cluster or Galaxy class. Hyper-instellar subspace class? Multiverse class? For the esoteric: Brane-class. It takes a real brain to understand b

Re: A Refreshing Change (Was: switch from CA-SYSVIEW to SDSF)

At 4/24/2008 03:08 AM, Edward Jaffe wrote: I realize it's a fine line ISVs tread within an open technical discussion. I try not to cross it (don't know if I'm always successful) as did the late Bruce Black, and as do Chris Craddock, Wayne Driscoll, Rob Scott, Bob Shannon, Tom Harper, Scott Fage

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