Hi,
We are planning to replace LRS VPS Printers to other Vendor product, I am
not aware of other vendor products in Market.
Can you all share your thoughts please.
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Hi,
We are plann
W dniu 2017-12-13 o 23:10, Edward Gould pisze:
Hi all:
This question I am posing caught me off guard and was wondering what the MF
world does about Data Base backups.
The largest DB I had e been exposed to was around 60 3350 volumes and that was
20+ years ago.
The backup of the entire DB took
Yes, indeed... I am forced to use IE and like you, I have been suffering with
this for quite a while, but it has gotten much worse this past week. In fact,
at this point, it's almost unusable... almost every time I attempt to navigate
around ServiceLink (usually starts with a "back" request), I
You don't always need to take a backup frequently: a backup plus logs can
recover the DB. The less Imagecopies you take, the more logfiles you must
process. The backup cycle then becomes a tradeoff.
Kees.
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Kolusu,
I would not recommend the use of RACFRW. It was stabilized in 1992 and won't
report on the use of newer command operands such as NOEXPIRE. Bruce is better
off using ICETOOL.
Bruce,
Our presentation on DFSORT and ICETOOL and its use with RACF might be of help.
You'll find it on our "RACF
I use z/OS make! Out of lack of experience, I guess, but it seems to
do its job OK. We ran into some issues when one developer was
accidentally using gnu make. It produced a bunch of mysterious
errors, and took us a while to figure out. So, makefiles don't seem
to be compatible between them (ge
Robert S. Hansel (RSH) wrote:
>Kolusu,
Careful, Sri will SORT you out... ;-D
>I would not recommend the use of RACFRW. It was stabilized in 1992 and won't
>report on the use of newer command operands such as NOEXPIRE. Bruce is better
>off using ICETOOL.
Or, better - lock up program RACFRW in
Running z/OS V2.2 on a z13. "D DIAG" shows FREEMAINEDFRAMES(YES)
I'm not trying to solve any specific problem. I'm just curious.
I'd like to see the behaviour in different situations when real storage
(frames) has been kept as part of RSMs new "freemained frames" feature after
the virtual stora
Several years back John Anderson started an ISVCOSTS list to help explore these
types of questions. It has transmogrified into a SHARE offering at
www.share.org/isvcosts Unfortunately does not accept gmail, hotmail, ISP or
Vendor subscriptions. Don't know which browsers it supports not Edge that
Hi,
Think this vendor has a product too - http://www.syzygyinc.com/SyzSPOOLz.htm
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On 2017-12-14 07:04, Peter Hunkeler wrote:
Running z/OS V2.2 on a z13. "D DIAG" shows FREEMAINEDFRAMES(YES)
I'm not trying to solve any specific problem. I'm just curious.
I'd like to see the behaviour in different situations when real storage (frames) has been
kept as part of RSMs new "freema
We successfully replaced VPS with NPF, which is included in CommServer. It's
not quite as robust as VPS, but considering the price, it works beautifully.
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.halp001/toc.htm
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> On 2017-12-14 07:04, Peter Hunkeler wrote:
On 2017-12-14 06:52, Steve Smith wrote:
I use z/OS make! Out of lack of experience, I guess, but it seems to
do its job OK. We ran into some issues when one developer was
accidentally using gnu make. It produced a bunch of mysterious
errors, and took us a while to figure out. So, makefiles do
I'm not "into" the application enough.
It seems they use FP for different calculations. To do "capital
discounting", for instance, they use "**" operator and this is the most
hungry cpu consumer.
Maybe they prefer to work at the maximum precision rounding at the end.
Sorry for being not so effec
Here's another vote for IBM's NPF. It does indeed work, the only rough bits is
the sort of un-intuitive way you set up printers and different types of output.
Between the bare bones ISPF panels, a slightly altered NPF exit from CBT tape
to support different forms and seperator pages, and a hom
Another vote for NPF. I have the same exact situation as Dana. Works well.
We do CICS , Mainframe, Network, printing all through the same devices. Not
one issue for over 2 years.
Bill
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Keep reporting it, maybe they'll listen eventually.
I had it so bad once I couldn't even supply feedback.
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>What does this exactly mean: "freemained frames"? Is it just a counter or do
>they refer to specific frames, that are kept at hand in the address space for
>faster assignment of new frame requests?
>
>I am not surprised that those frames, if they are "available" at all, are not
>accessible an
On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Carroll, William <
carro...@grangeinsurance.com> wrote:
> Another vote for NPF. I have the same exact situation as Dana. Works
> well. We do CICS , Mainframe, Network, printing all through the same
> devices. Not one issue for over 2 years.
>
I got NPF workin
Another vote for MacKinney's JQP.
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On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote:
>
> >What does this exactly mean: "freemained frames"? Is it just a counter or
> do they refer to specific frames, that are kept at hand in the address
> space for faster assignment of new frame requests?
> >
> >I am not surprised that those
On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 09:25:45 -0500, Gord Tomlin wrote:
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>All the make tools share an annoying reliance on tab characters.
>
Actually, some (I don't recall which) will accept indention by blanks.
Tab was a bad design choice.
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> On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 09:25:45 -0500, Gord Tomlin wrote:
> >
> >All the make tools share an annoying reliance on tab characters.
> >
> Actually, some (I don't recall which) will accept indentio
On Dec 14, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Porowski, Kenneth wrote:
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> Another vote for MacKinney's JQP.
We’ve been happy with it too.
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> >What does this exactly mean: "fre
Another handy place to look for competing products
http://www.lookupmainframesoftware.com/
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Ditto on JQP here at the University of Flordia.
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On 12/14/2017 6:47 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote:
See OA46291. The APAR is for z/OS V2.1 and V1.13, it is in the base for z/OS
V2.2.
Also this great write-up put together by Elipda Tzortatos
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/zoslib/pdf/OA46291.pdf
With this new function, RSM (SRM?) may decide *n
This question has been floated here also. The main concern is that in our VPS
implementation--decades old--the user can control the output format via printer
name. So DEST=prt-name-D will print double-sided; prt-name-L will print
landscape; and so on. We have built lots of code to support this o
For each NPF printer, I have multiple forms set up with routing records that
point to different PCL exits to control size, and orientation. It could easily
be done with different destination names too.
Dana
On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 16:42:53 +, Jesse 1 Robinson
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>This question has been
MacKinney JQP does. Each destination has its own setup and multiple
destinations can point to the same printer.
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Hi All,
I am re-installing z/OS and CICS Explorer on a new PC today, and there are
three choices for connection to our z/OS system:
z/OS FTP
z/OS Remote System
z/OSMF
I know the limitations of the FTP connection (our FTP does not let us use JES
level 2) and the last time I installed the Explor
Interesting workaround. Not sure I'll use it, but good to know about.
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I use the z/OS remote system, for me, it gives me everything I need, JES,
mainframe datasets, and USS, TSO, and limited ISPF
for 2.1 and 2.2 the client side worked the same for me.
Carmen Vitullo
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On 12/14/2017 7:25 AM, Gord Tomlin wrote:
All the make tools share an annoying reliance on tab characters.
This is somehow more pernicious than punch-card-column dependencies in
traditional IBM tools? :)
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On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Jack J. Woehr wrote:
> On 12/14/2017 7:25 AM, Gord Tomlin wrote:
>
>> All the make tools share an annoying reliance on tab characters.
>
>
> This is somehow more pernicious than punch-card-column dependencies in
> traditional IBM tools? :)
IMO, the use of tabs
On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 14:04:02 + "Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM"
wrote:
:>What does this exactly mean: "freemained frames"? Is it just a counter or do
they refer to specific frames, that are kept at hand in the address space for
faster assignment of new frame requests?
:>I am not surprised t
Hi Folks,
As you probably know by now, z/OS 2.3 has introduced the possibility
of having 8-character TSO userids and 8-character TSO prefixes. These
name fields were previously limited to 7 characters, ever since TSO came
into existence. (I think the reason for the limitation was that the
On 2017-12-14 13:56, Jack J. Woehr wrote:
On 12/14/2017 7:25 AM, Gord Tomlin wrote:
All the make tools share an annoying reliance on tab characters.
This is somehow more pernicious than punch-card-column dependencies in
traditional IBM tools? :)
Neither is great, but at least you can see t
Hi Folks, (I'm sorry that my previous post was sent incomplete--pressed
the wrong key)
As you probably know by now, z/OS 2.3 has introduced the possibility
of having 8-character TSO userids and 8-character TSO prefixes. These
name fields were previously limited to 7 characters, ever since
>This not much different from the old situation, where you getmain a page,
>freemain half of it, so the frame still remains valid and is fully accessible.
Yes, it is much different! In the case you describe, you will find the page is
allocated in the VSMDATA report. With freemained frames,
>My guess is that the TLB has not been updated yet. That save performance as
the unallocation can wait until all CPs running in the address space have had
normal interrupts to process the changes.
The unallocation can wait until RSM sees a need to put them onto the available
frames queue. It m
On 12/14/2017 1:13 PM, Peter Hunkeler wrote:
The APAR decribes that marking frames as freemained frames avoids signaling all
processors, which does not scale well with the large number of processors in
z13 and newer machines. It probably avoids updating the TLBs.
It avoids the issuance of IP
> On Dec 14, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Sam Golob wrote:
>
>As you probably know by now, z/OS 2.3 has introduced the possibility of
> having 8-character TSO userids and 8-character TSO prefixes. These name
> fields were previously limited to 7 characters, ever since TSO came into
> existence. (I
Thanks for all the responses. I compiled a list of the products mentioned
together with 'ratings' and comments. I was surprised at the volume of NPF
endorsements; I didn't even know about it. A lot of us choose a product for a
particular purpose and stop window shopping, never realizing that the
>>> Bruce My final JCL:-
Bruce,
I sent you a JCL offline which does all the reporting as well as uses
symbols and the userids can be dynamically passed. I don't have an input
data that has all the events that you are looking for.
>>> Martin Packer : This, I think, could use some Symbols love
On 14 December 2017 at 18:18, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
> Thanks for all the responses. I compiled a list of the products mentioned
> together with 'ratings' and comments. I was surprised at the volume of NPF
> endorsements; I didn't even know about it. A lot of us choose a product for a
> partic
How many printers are on your system? The system I had had 1400 printers
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> On Dec 14, 2017, at 19:34, Tony Harminc wrote:
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>> On 14 December 2017 at 18:18, Jesse 1 Robinson
>> wrote:
>> Thanks for all the responses. I compiled a list of
RSM will free frames if available frames are in short supply.
If you obtain a smaller amount, get it backed, and then release it, you
may
be more likely to observe the frames being retained.
Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test IBM Corp.
Poughkeepsie NY
> Running z/OS V2.2
Hi Folks,
I'm commenting on Ed Gould's comments. Thanks Ed. Much obliged.
I've used MVT in the old days, but I'm not an expert from then. A
few years ago, I was experimenting with the ACCOUNT command to create
new userids in SYS1.UADS (on z/OS), and I noticed that the size of each
>It avoids the issuance of IPTE (an expensive instruction when many CPs are
>present) for each frame...
I know. Had I not been too lazy to open the PoOp, and read what exactly the
IPTE does, I had written "it avoids updating the TLB..." instead of "it
probably avoids...". I promis to do better
>If you obtain a smaller amount, get it backed, and then release it, you
may be more likely to observe the frames being retained.
Thanks. I (wrongly, it seems) assumed it is more likely to happen with large
areas.
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Interesting detail: why does this work on z13 only and not on z14?
Grtn,
Kees.
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Hi All,
Thanks very much for your timely and quick response. Yes have proposed a
strategy to the customer and will be reviewed by early next year. I will
have some follow-up questions regarding the same and will post to get some
advise. Thanks again.
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