Re: Anybody else timing out sending dumps to testcase?

2017-06-02 Thread Don Williams
Have you verified that FTP SSL can pass thru your firewall? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Pinnacle Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Anybody else timing out sending dumps to

Re: Address Swap question

2015-09-30 Thread Don Williams
Yes On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:46 PM michelbutz wrote: > Hi > > Was just wondering does an address space > Need to be swapped in for any code be running in > It > > Thanks > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- >

Re: opinion: "upgrade" use of CCSID in JCL.

2015-09-03 Thread Don Williams
So I'm not the only person to think that options to control translation might be useful. Choice of code page would be good. Ability to exclude BDW/RDW from translation would be nice too. On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 1:16 PM John McKown wrote: > On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at

Re: IBM z/OS Internet Library trimmed to z/OS 1.13 and above

2015-09-03 Thread Don Williams
What happens to those that ignore robot.txt files? On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 3:48 PM Tony Harminc wrote: > On 3 September 2015 at 11:18, Andy Higgins > wrote: > >> I don't remember what was there originally... > > > > The Internet Archive Wayback Machine

Re: FTP - how get RDW and ASCII

2015-09-01 Thread Don Williams
Years ago I wanted the same and I never found one nor wrote one. FTP's EBCDIC <-> ASCII translation is for the entire logical record. You would need a "field" level translation to get no translation for the length fields and EBCDIC <-> ASCII translation for the text fields. On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at

Re: vary dev,console with an IEF238D outstanding.

2015-08-27 Thread Don Williams
In every shop that I've worked in, the pool of 3270 devices defined as consoles were solely dedicated to that purpose. A separate pool of 3270 devices not defined as consoles were dedicated as terminals. So I would be perfectly happy to have an CONSOLxx option to formally dedicate the consoles as

Re: vary dev,console with an IEF238D outstanding.

2015-08-25 Thread Don Williams
Sadly, as previously stated, MVS has always worked this way. During allocation recovery, no new allocations can be processed. I agree that a RFE would be nice. Perhaps allocation recovery could be by device class. That way a DASD or tape allocation recovery would not block a console allocation.

Re: SDSF and Carriage Control

2015-08-13 Thread Don Williams
IOF does and has for at least 14 years support carriage control emulated display (both RECFM=A or M), except for overprinting. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 3:26 PM Peter Hunkeler p...@gmx.ch wrote: Ah! Here it is!: asa - Interpret ASA/FORTRAN carriage control But it's an incomplete implementation.

Re: HMC Integrated console and JAVA

2015-03-18 Thread Don Williams
Just an FYI... -Original Message- From: srdonotre...@us.ibm.com [mailto:srdonotre...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 8:29 AM To: Williams, Donald Subject: IBM Service Request: Service request 06963 499 000 has been updated - z14 HMC connection keeps dying. This

Re: HMC Integrated console and JAVA

2015-03-18 Thread Don Williams
IBM did not say, but I assume IE, since FF was not having the same problem. Don Williams -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 10:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: zSeries HMC forcible disconnect issue - anybody seen this one before?

2015-03-17 Thread Don Williams
I opened a PMR and found that IBM is working on a Java 8 issue. They do not have an ETA for a fix. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ambros, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 2:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5

2013-09-10 Thread Don Williams
There are many shops who have a need or desire to safely share libraries and other files across sysplex boundaries without having to replicate them. Many the years ago, I suggested to IBM that they provide such a feature, only to be told I'm not the first to ask and that it is under consideration.

Re: The z/OS V2.1 Migration PDF available

2013-08-11 Thread Don Williams
All double column formatted PDFs drive me crazy. If I set the view to entire page, then the fonts too small. If I set the font large enough to see, then I have to yo-yo the pages up and down to read the columns. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Sharing ZFS file b/w two systems [not sysplex]

2013-07-26 Thread Don Williams
It's been fair number of years ago, but I've ran into difficulties even when the zFS was mounted readonly on all other systems. I was told by IBM support that any zFS mounted READ/WRITE in one sysplex, must not be mounted at all in any other sysplex. IIRC, it had something to do with being a

Re: ACS routine imbed/include function?

2013-07-15 Thread Don Williams
My sample size must be too small to be significant, but it seems that over the past decade or two, that vast majority of ACS administrators I've spoken to would love to have some sort of facility which would allow sharing common source code between the ACS routines. -Original

Re: Reader Comment on SA22-7832-08 (PoPS), should I?

2013-06-28 Thread Don Williams
Yes, but with a large zoom you can't see bottom of one column and the top of the other. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 6:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Reader Comment on SA22-7832-08 (PoPS), should I?

2013-06-27 Thread Don Williams
IBM still has a lot of manuals in two column format. I've put up with that format for years. I would be much happier with one column. Don -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013

Re: Why does IBM keep saying things like this:

2013-06-17 Thread Don Williams
Subject: Re: Why does IBM keep saying things like this: Don Williams writes: Younger/smaller businesses have the option to use the less expensive open systems, because they don't need the more powerful IBM mainframe. Are they less expensive? Are they open? Do all of them not need

Re: Why does IBM keep saying things like this:

2013-06-16 Thread Don Williams
Younger/smaller businesses have the option to use the less expensive open systems, because they don't need the more powerful IBM mainframe. Like IBM's mainframes, each generation of open systems grow more powerful, has more features, etc. So as those new businesses grow, they can expect their

Re: Multiple volume dataset question

2013-06-07 Thread Don Williams
Note: Volume Count adds * volsers to volume list, but dynamic volume count does not. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 7:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: ENF 54 (SDUMP event)

2013-06-07 Thread Don Williams
== IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu wrote on 06/06/2013 11:06:06 AM: From: Don Williams donb...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu, Date: 06/06/2013 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] ENF 54 (SDUMP event) Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN

Re: Calls to SMS Data Class ACS Routine

2013-06-06 Thread Don Williams
Once a data set is allocated, its Data Class Attributes are set. DSS will not modify those attributes when it copies a data set even when it is logically reasonable (g). -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark

Re: Calls to SMS Data Class ACS Routine

2013-06-06 Thread Don Williams
The data class is an initial source of data set attributes. The vast majority of data set attributes are stored in the VTOC/VVDS and catalog entries when it is allocated, therefore changing the data class after the data set has been allocated does not change its attributes. -Original

Re: Calls to SMS Data Class ACS Routine

2013-06-06 Thread Don Williams
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Don Williams Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 15:03 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Calls to SMS Data Class ACS Routine The data class is an initial source of data set attributes. The vast majority

Re: ENF 54 (SDUMP event)

2013-06-06 Thread Don Williams
I'm surprised that IBM did not setup two ENF APIs, one documented for customers, and an internal one for IBM. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 7:55 AM To:

Re: Local MCS Console Solutions

2013-06-03 Thread Don Williams
Subject: Re: Local MCS Console Solutions W dniu 2013-06-02 19:10, Don Williams pisze: Good points which is why I don't setup them up as NIP consoles and we only allow access inside our firewall. Well, the only reason I need hard consoles is NIP/IPL/shutdown process. Later (after IPL) I can

Re: Citation for reformatting of VSAM, HFS and zFS data sets

2013-06-03 Thread Don Williams
Perhaps the citation looked for is: = SPEED|RECOVERY Specifies whether the data component's control areas are to be preformatted This parameter is only considered during the actual loading (creation) of a data set. Creation occurs when

Re: Local MCS Console Solutions

2013-06-02 Thread Don Williams
Subject: Re: Local MCS Console Solutions W dniu 2013-06-02 01:53, Don Williams pisze: The OSA-C configuration works well for us as well. In our case, we have two OSA-C cards for redundancy. Each LPAR has 4 consoles, -0003. Consoles and 0001 (one on each OSA-C card) are our

Re: Local MCS Console Solutions

2013-06-01 Thread Don Williams
The OSA-C configuration works well for us as well. In our case, we have two OSA-C cards for redundancy. Each LPAR has 4 consoles, -0003. Consoles and 0001 (one on each OSA-C card) are our systems programmer consoles that are usually offline. Consoles 0002 and 0003 are the operator

Re: Local MCS Console Solutions

2013-06-01 Thread Don Williams
TN3270 Plus from SDI is inexpensive and allows you to single-key stroke rotate around ever how many sessions you have. Of course, that does not address the issue of functionally-stabilized technology. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Local MCS Console Solutions

2013-06-01 Thread Don Williams
TN3270 Plus from SDI is inexpensive and allows you to single-key stroke rotate around ever how many sessions you have. Of course, that does not address the issue of functionally-stabilized technology, but to my knowledge IBM has not offered a replacement technology. -Original Message-

Re: OT - What is the proper term for K notation?

2013-05-02 Thread Don Williams
Perhaps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix will answer your question. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 11:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: OT - What is

Re: OT - What is the proper term for K notation?

2013-05-02 Thread Don Williams
K, Ki, are scaling factors, therefore I would call that type of formatting scaled format. I expect most people would understand what I meant. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, May 02,

Re: 32760? (was: PARMDD?)

2013-04-05 Thread Don Williams
Many years ago, my first APF authorized program was to solve the normal vs. the abnormal DISP problem for utility programs that trap and prevent abends. At the time I was too green to realize that there were many public domain solutions readily available (via tape, there was no Internet, yet), so

Re: PC2 - The New Punched Card Cloud

2013-04-01 Thread Don Williams
S is x'E2' instead of x'E1' Don -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Skip Robinson Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 11:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PC2 - The New Punched Card Cloud Trivia 2. What

Re: MSTJCL00 - Resizing IEFJOBS dataset

2013-03-20 Thread Don Williams
The only case I remember having trouble with was moving a IEFJOBS data set to a new volume. Don -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Andrew Metcalfe Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 9:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Enqueue during VSAM REPRO - Who is the culprit

2013-03-08 Thread Don Williams
For more than a decade I've wished for a parmlib option to request that dynamic allocation automatically display the blocking user. Sounds like I might not be the only person who would like that. Don -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Vary off path

2013-03-06 Thread Don Williams
IIRC, it is strongly advised to never use the HMC single object operations to vary a CHP when the related LPARs have operating systems running in them. Alas, I wish that all operating systems were designed/required to gracefully handle the HMC varying resources on and off line. -Original

Re: Vary off path

2013-03-06 Thread Don Williams
Engelbrecht Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Vary off path Don Williams wrote: IIRC, it is strongly advised to never use the HMC single object operations to vary a CHP when the related LPARs have operating systems running in them. Agreed. One

Re: Me? (was: SAVE macro, I think)

2013-03-04 Thread Don Williams
Far too many times have I come across readers and writers (and not just IBMers) that do not understand words in a technical manual like ALL, EVERY, NONE, FIRST, LAST, AND, OR, NEITHER, EITHER, etc. need precise definitions and usages otherwise you have a novel and not reference manual. Don

Re: I do not understand S0C6 on CDSG

2013-02-26 Thread Don Williams
If the Wikipedia article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_arithmetic#Residue_systems, is correct: In mathematics, modular arithmetic (sometimes called clock arithmetic) is a system of arithmetic for integers, where numbers wrap around upon reaching a certain value-the modulus. The Swiss

Re: I do not understand S0C6 on CDSG

2013-02-26 Thread Don Williams
I agree. Probably just an old grudge. One of my professors put a bonus question on one of his weekly exams: who invented modular math? I answered Gauss, but he would not take my answer. I got a B rather than an A. Don -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Mod-9 vs. Mod-27 vs. mixed

2013-02-24 Thread Don Williams
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Don Williams Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Mod-9 vs. Mod-27 vs. mixed I think DASD vendors need to create a simple, standard method to mirror a volume's configuration and data, rather than mirroring just

Re: Secure Service Delivery

2013-02-22 Thread Don Williams
I hope my doctors read journals and participate other formal training during their normal work hours as a part of providing better service to me. Working too many hours will eventually lead to problems, but so will lack of continuing education. Don -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Low priority workload

2013-02-21 Thread Don Williams
Low priority work may have exclusive access to other resources (locks, enqueues, memory, etc.) which blocks (i.e., effectively preempts) higher priority work. In most cases, this type of preemption does not last long enough to be significant; however, when your system is on running on the edge

Re: USPTO does another goodie.

2013-02-21 Thread Don Williams
LOL -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: USPTO does another goodie. On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 07:52:40 -0600, Ron Wells

Re: Load To Global with PC_cp (OT)

2013-02-21 Thread Don Williams
In simplier terms, both the chicken and the egg may have been first. Don -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Gilmore Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Load To

Re: Problem with SYSEVENT QVS

2013-02-21 Thread Don Williams
Yeah, it is annoying, but... Naming standards to change over time (50+ years for MVS), from component to component, and due to reorganizations, mergers, acqusitions, etc. Therefore the old grandfathered names are typically going to be inconsistent. Then there is the code that existed prior to

Re: want to purge all my jobs ended with a RC=0 automatically

2013-02-21 Thread Don Williams
I agree with Dave, that there can be hidden problems. However, if you still want to purge RC=0 jobs, refer to the JES2 Initialization and Tuning Reference. The JOBCLASS/STCCLASS/TSUCLASS parmlib statement has several parameters which can be used: CONDPURG=Yes|No Specifies whether (YES) or

Re: want to purge all my jobs ended with a RC=0 automatically

2013-02-21 Thread Don Williams
If you have access to the submitted JCL or maybe the PROC, you could add a final abend step. // IF (RC NE 0) THEN //ABEND EXEC PGM=ABEND // ENDIF -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of CUNY Yann Sent: Thursday, February

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Don Williams
I expect that your new automated shutdown procedure has issued a $P command. JES2 could is still be up, but JES2 processes required for your IKJEFT1B script have been drained. Don -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Don Williams
P.S. When that happened to me, I manually issued a $S and that freed things up. I expect that your new automated shutdown procedure has issued a $P command. JES2 could is still be up, but JES2 processes required for your IKJEFT1B script have been drained. Don -Original Message- From:

Re: Article for the boss: COBOL will outlive us all

2013-02-14 Thread Don Williams
It would be interesting to have a list shops by operating systems: 1. z/OS 2. z/VM 3. z/VSE 4. z/TPF 5. z/Linux etc. Don -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Leslie Turriff Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:53 PM

Re: Article for the boss: COBOL will outlive us all

2013-02-14 Thread Don Williams
The following is a simplistic wild guess. Accord to SHARE: SHARE serves more than 20,000 individuals representing over 2,000 of IBM's top enterprise computing customers. What percent of the SHARE members have IBM mainframes? 90%? That would be 1,800 share members w/MFs. What percent of the

Re: basic SMS question

2013-02-11 Thread Don Williams
Some people create data set reports based a DATACLAS names. Those people are not happy when their reports are wrong. ALso DATACLAS has at least one dynamic attribute, Dynamic Volume Count. Changes to Dynamic Volume Count affect existing data sets. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: How do people lock down the compilers inside CA Endevor?

2013-02-11 Thread Don Williams
Perhaps RACF's program control feature could be used. Top Secret and ACF2 have similar features. The objective would be to only allow the Endevor programs to be able to update your target libraries. This does not prevent a user from executing a compiler (or other program); however his compiler

Re: At Last (z/os v2.1) !

2013-02-08 Thread Don Williams
Over the years, I've asked several times. I've wanted in sequence concatentation (since the first time I processed SMF data). -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:12 PM

Re: basic SMS question

2013-02-08 Thread Don Williams
ALTER can change MGMTCLAS and STORCLAS, but not DATACLAS My best guess is that changing the DATACLAS would imply rewritting the data, since some DATACLAS attributes control the physical recording of data. Don -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: basic SMS question

2013-02-08 Thread Don Williams
IIRC, not a DFDMDdss COPY option, either. DSS does not reformat data. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP - SPLXM Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 7:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: basic

Re: My Last Days as a Sysprog

2013-02-06 Thread Don Williams
Haruspicina literally means 'divination by inspection of entrails'. Peak usage in 1913-1914 of 0.005287% (http://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=haruspicinayear_start=1500ye ar_end=2010corpus=15smoothing=3share=) lituus is (in ancient Rome) a crook-shaped staff used by augurs for

Re: My Last Days as a Sysprog

2013-02-06 Thread Don Williams
Agreed. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 9:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: My Last Days as a Sysprog Not that anybody likely cares, but I don't mind

Re: Rejoice! z/OS 2.1 addresses some long term JCL complaints from here:

2013-02-06 Thread Don Williams
Probably related: 1. The PARM length field is historically treated as a signed half word number, so max value is 32767 (rather than unsigned 65535). 2. Minimum storage allocation increment, double word or 8 bytes, therefore 32760 is the largest multiple of 8 less than or equal to 32767. Don

Re: Deleting old HSM backups

2013-02-06 Thread Don Williams
Many years ago, I wrote a REXX EXEC to mass delete migrated files. It calls IGGCSI00 with a wilcard search argument to build a list of matching data set names to be deleted. I've deleted many thousands of migrated data sets with one command, but millions would probably exceed its capacity.

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-01 Thread Don Williams
Just curious. What is the reason for rolling in 4,340 data sets? Typically when a data set is rolled in, they want to read it which implies they need to recall it. Don -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Gould

FW: mainframe selling points

2013-01-31 Thread Don Williams
Interesting note from a list reader... BTW David, IBM Main list membership is free. The only membership requirement is to be interested in the list. Don -Original Message- From: david kramf [mailto:dakr@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:56 AM To: donb...@gmail.com

Re: FW: mainframe selling points

2013-01-31 Thread Don Williams
snip Well, the mainframe is doomed for those who think small. The mainframe is not the platform for small. snip Agreed, small apps that have no need to scale up, have no need for a mainframe. Does this mean a M/F developer needs to have deep pockets to be successful? Don

Re: FW: mainframe selling points

2013-01-31 Thread Don Williams
points As point of comparison, merge this with prior info from Timothy (comments after): On 01/31/2013 08:32 AM, Don Williams wrote: Interesting note from a list reader... BTW David, IBM Main list membership is free. The only membership requirement is to be interested in the list

Re: FW: mainframe selling points

2013-01-31 Thread Don Williams
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FW: mainframe selling points On 1/31/2013 8:40 AM, Don Williams wrote: Does this mean a M/F developer needs to have deep pockets to be successful? Depends on your definition of deep. Last I checked it was $500/month for fully-supported remote development

Re: mainframe selling points

2013-01-30 Thread Don Williams
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: mainframe selling points On 30/01/2013 1:07 PM, Don Williams wrote: Hi Scott, While I've heard of zPDT, I don't really know/understand what is does or offers a vendor. Sounds like zPDT is an affordable and effective platform. Too bad some vendor did not use

Re: mainframe selling points

2013-01-30 Thread Don Williams
I'm not an EMR expert either, but to the hospital the EMR application is actually far more than simply medical record keeping. There are a wide range of departments or clinics (e.g., pediatrics, pharmacy, oncology, emergency room, and on and on). The doctors and nurses in each department have

Re: mainframe selling points

2013-01-30 Thread Don Williams
For now, IBM has legacy customers over a barrel and can demand a high price for the mainframe hardware and operating systems. But for developers of new apps, they can choose a different platform, esp. if they believe that their customers will purchase whatever platform it takes to run them. I

Re: mainframe selling points

2013-01-30 Thread Don Williams
. JVM isn't the end all in languages. I write a lot of an gauges, including C. Yes, I am a big Linux fan Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Jan 30, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Don Williams donb

Re: mainframe selling points

2013-01-30 Thread Don Williams
on the vendor yes..but there are alternatives even IBM.. Linux being the high points these days has made the Zseries even more of a $$ savings opportunity . others can add to this list..done pitching... From: Don Williams donb...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date

Re: mainframe selling points

2013-01-30 Thread Don Williams
Could a small shop with a z114 (2818-A01) expect to get roughly the same percent savings as large shop with 3 or 4 zEC12s (2827-7A1)? The Share presentation seemed to based on large customers. Don -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]

Re: mainframe selling points

2013-01-30 Thread Don Williams
Don Williams wrote: begin excerpt Like languages, each platform has it advantages and disadvantages. People should use the most appropriate language, platform, etc. for each situation in order to provide the best solution. end excerpt I agree. How not? It is an innocuous, statesman-like

Re: mainframe selling points

2013-01-29 Thread Don Williams
Don Williams asks: I wonder what percent were using z/OS? I think you're asking what percentage of new mainframe customers run z/OS. IBM doesn't say as far as I know, but it's over half (greater than 50%) according to what I've read elsewhere. That's in agreement with my anecdotal experience

Re: mainframe selling points

2013-01-29 Thread Don Williams
On 1/28/2013 7:22 PM, Don Williams wrote: snip I work for a large hospital that has recently selected a new Electronic Medical Records (EMR) vendor. While their decision process considered the infrastructure, the weight of all the other factors effectively ignored any platform advantages

Re: mainframe selling points

2013-01-29 Thread Don Williams
incremental changes. We don't have the money to convert from CICS or batch COBOL to something else (likely Microsoft .NET based shudder/). On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Don Williams donb...@gmail.com wrote: In my company's case, it's not a matter of asking our vendor to work

Re: but hopefully interesting - Million core supercomputer

2013-01-29 Thread Don Williams
I so wanted to be the one to ask that question :-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Fairchild Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: but hopefully interesting -

Re: mainframe selling points

2013-01-29 Thread Don Williams
:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: mainframe selling points On 1/29/2013 11:39 AM, Don Williams wrote: System z is not cheap (does it start around $1M?). OMG. I hope not! According to http://tech-news.com/publib/, a z114 2818-A01 lists for around $75K. I suspect in practice

Re: mainframe selling points

2013-01-29 Thread Don Williams
Don't forget the Plus SH -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 4:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: mainframe selling points You want software with that

Re: mainframe selling points

2013-01-29 Thread Don Williams
www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Don Williams donb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, System z is not cheap (does it start around $1M?). I expect the traditional

Re: mainframe selling points

2013-01-29 Thread Don Williams
to failure (another year). The MF people they had hired were scared for their jobs as they saw the writing on the wall. The tech support manager came out on top as he got the PC people but their problems only multiplied. Ed On Jan 29, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Don Williams wrote: In my

Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?)

2013-01-28 Thread Don Williams
I admit it, I'm lazy. I love the entire bookshelf search feature. However, more and more books are available only in PDF format. I'm unhappy (stronger words would need to censored) that I cannot search an entire extended bookshelf on my on PC. Several years ago, I complained to IBM about the

Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?)

2013-01-28 Thread Don Williams
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 1:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?) From: Don Williams donb...@gmail.com Date: 01/28/2013 12:10 PM I admit it, I'm lazy. I love the entire bookshelf

Re: mainframe selling points

2013-01-28 Thread Don Williams
of interest in using mainframes instead of massive server farms (zLinux being the key). Maybe our friend Timothy S can chime in here? :-) Cheers ALH -Original Message- From: Don Williams donb...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Fri, Jan 25, 2013 1:40 pm Subject: Re

Re: mainframe selling points

2013-01-28 Thread Don Williams
:Re: mainframe selling points Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Card reader / punch, lineprinter, reel tapes, unmounted 3330 disk pack. Things have sure progressed since then. On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Don Williams donb...@gmail.com wrote

Re: OT -- hackers

2013-01-26 Thread Don Williams
It is the evil intention that causes the problem, not the knowledge. Don -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT -- hackers

Re: mainframe selling points

2013-01-25 Thread Don Williams
The article below does not paint a good future for the mainframe...I hope the analysts are wrong. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19399368 == IBM unveils faster, smaller mainframe IBM has unveiled a mainframe computer

Re: Varying off path while it is in use

2013-01-24 Thread Don Williams
IEFBR14 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 9:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Varying off path while it is in use Paul Gilmartin wrote: Remember the

Re: silicon photonics - faster than copper

2013-01-18 Thread Don Williams
Just curious... Both electricity and light are both slower than c when not in vacuum. I guess electricity is slowed down more by the dielectric constant, than light is slowed down by the reflective index... Speed of electricity From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Re: ESDS extent ...

2013-01-09 Thread Don Williams
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Re: IBM Systems Magazine Article on zEC12 + Java

2013-01-09 Thread Don Williams
Maybe 16^2 where the ^2 was too small to read? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 4:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IBM Systems Magazine Article on zEC12 + Java

Re: ESDS extent ...

2013-01-09 Thread Don Williams
sets in DFSMSdfp Storage Administration. Table 11 clearly shows that Dataclass in not invoked by HSM Recall or Recover. -Original Message- From: Don Williams [mailto:donb...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 2:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ESDS

Re: LLA Management of Linklst datasets

2013-01-09 Thread Don Williams
I don't know if they still exist, but there use to be applications that did BLDLs of linklist modules. Refreshing LLA was moot. Compressing those libraries could be hazardous to those applications. Then there was the co-worker who liked to stage changes in linklist and not do the LLA refresh

Re: ESDS extent ...

2013-01-08 Thread Don Williams
Did you backup, delete, redefine, and reload the the file? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Moussadak Mostafa Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ESDS extent ... Lizette,

Re: ESDS extent ...

2013-01-08 Thread Don Williams
HSM Recall does not re-invoke the DataClas ACS routine (several years ago, I had to proof that to my teammates). Therefore a recalled data set will have the same data class name. Since a data class could affect many hundreds or thousands of data sets (we still have some applications that cannot

Re: 64 Bit Common Storage (was Common Data Space Basics)

2012-12-18 Thread Don Williams
Instruction timing varies drastically due to multi-level cache, parallel and out of order execution, model dependent facilities, etc. You could have best-case and worst-case formulas. But I expect an average-case formula would be too data dependent to be useful. -Original Message- From:

Re: dsf to write over entire volume

2012-12-14 Thread Don Williams
I agree that it is quite unlikely that our DASD will be hacked. My manager thinks the same. Regardless, our management has chosen certified crushing and shreding of retired DASD, Tape, etc. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf

Re: dsf to write over entire volume

2012-12-12 Thread Don Williams
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 5:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: dsf to write over entire volume W dniu 2012-12-12 18:04, Don Williams pisze: ICKDSF is not intended to erase volumes. But it can erase the volumes, can't

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