Token Ring vs. Ethernet

2006-06-09 Thread glen herrmannsfeldt
Rich Seifert (who worked on the original 10Mbit ethernet) in his Gigabit Ethernet book has some explanation about this. Token Ring requires more complicated hardware, keeping the price higher. The higher price reduces demand, making it harder to reach the economy of scale point. There is a

FTP'ing to boulder

2006-06-09 Thread Steve Gentry
For at least the last two years I have gotten the following error messages when I try to connect to Boulder from VM to download a fix. ftp ptf.boulder.ibm.com VM TCP/IP FTP Level 520 Connecting to PTF.BOULDER.IBM.COM 207.25.253.62, port 21 Foreign host

Re: Anyone use VMRM?

2006-06-09 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
I thought SHARE was more logarithmic than linear, so it would be much worse than 100-to-1. Or am I confusing that with something else? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Wheeler Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:54 PM To:

Re: FTP'ing to boulder

2006-06-09 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
Title: Message Try: "EXEC FTP PTF.SOFTWARE.IBM.COM" /* NEW IBM Service */ -Original Message-From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve GentrySent: Friday, June 09, 2006 9:11 AMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: FTP'ing to

Re: Link Editing

2006-06-09 Thread Leland Lucius
Nah, I was just trying to be funny since he's from the postal service. Leland On 6/9/06 3:06 AM, Shimon Lebowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: His account was cancelled for asking z/OS link edit questions in IBMVM? Shimon On 8 Jun 2006 at 15:23, Leland Lucius wrote: Quoting Stein,

Re: FTP'ing to boulder

2006-06-09 Thread Steve Gentry
When I issue the command, I get the following: EXEC FTP PTF.SOFTWARE.IBM.COM DMSEXT072E Error in EXEC file FTP, line 0 - not found Ready(00801); Where is the FTP EXEC? The FTP module is on TCPMAINT 592 disk. Stracka, James (GTI) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

Re: Anyone use VMRM?

2006-06-09 Thread Barton Robinson
No, it's linear. But I would be DEATHLY AFRAID of a system that made one of my production servers 10,000 times more share than another production server. This could easily cause one server to be delayed by minutes, not just seconds and would REALLY make intel servers look good. The logic boggles

Re: FTP'ing to boulder

2006-06-09 Thread Jim Vincent
Interesting - we just ordered something on 6/5 and got: Data sent via INET. To retrieve your service: FTP to: ptf.boulder.ibm.com Log on using userid ... Enter the following FTP commands: ... Mike, you must be 'special' or it was a 6/6/6 thing (sigh). We have had no problems ftp'ing

Re: DDR to standard labeled tapes

2006-06-09 Thread Brian Nielsen
I know you can do that as a crude FSF file, but you can't BSF without CMS. A CP command to FSF would be much faster and cleaner than multiple IPL's. CP already provides REWIND, so a command to do FSF and BSF isn't much of a stretch. Maybe I'll write an IPL'able utility that will issue FSF

Re: FTP'ing to boulder

2006-06-09 Thread Mike Walter
Hmmm... Jim, did you order the PTF via the good old, reliable, green-screen 3270 IBMLink interface, or via that new-fangled web-stuff interface? Maybe that's what causes the difference? Somehow I suspect you're using the 3270 interface, too. :-) Just a stab in the etherdark. Mike Walter

Re: FTP'ing to boulder

2006-06-09 Thread Jim Vincent
This was from http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/support/ ___ James Vincent Systems Engineering Consultant Nationwide Services Co., Technology Solutions Mainframe, z/VM and z/Linux Support One Nationwide Plaza 3-25-02 Columbus OH 43215-2220 U.S.A Voice:

Re: Link Editing

2006-06-09 Thread Yam
Nah, I was just trying to be funny since he was from the postal service. Leland On 6/9/06 3:06 AM, Shimon Lebowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: His account was cancelled for asking z/OS link edit questions in IBMVM? Shimon On 8 Jun 2006 at 15:23, Leland Lucius wrote: Quoting Stein,

Re: DDR to standard labeled tapes

2006-06-09 Thread Schuh, Richard
You can manually BSF all the way to load point - it was called a Rewind button in the olden days :). I think there is a different name on the button nowadays; however, I can't be sure because the machine room is over 1000 miles away. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From:

Re: DDR to standard labeled tapes

2006-06-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 06/09/2006 at 08:48 MST, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never saw the problem on a 3088 - we had a 9088 that apparently did the right thing when it received the IPL reset signal :) In any event, this applies to anything that causes an interrupt when the stand-alone

Re: DDR to standard labeled tapes

2006-06-09 Thread Jim Bohnsack
Watch that dark ages stuff, Chuckie. By the time I saw that problem, I was no longer keying on an 029 or maybe 026. I had graduated to a 3278 or 3279, altho I did then and still do carry 5081 cards in my pocket. Jim At 01:31 PM 6/9/2006, you wrote: In the Dark Ages (stone knives and bear

Tape Modeset for 3480 XF

2006-06-09 Thread George Haddad
Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but I'm trying to write to a 3480 cart using TAPE MODESET (XF. The TAPE QUERY command confirms that the drive is capable of writing mode XF. But whatever I do, the data is apparently being written as 38k bpi, according to both the UofK TAPEMAP and Rich

Re: DDR to standard labeled tapes

2006-06-09 Thread George Haddad
Never ran into that with a 3088, but I certainly did back with a 3705. We ended up having that Ctrlr on a channel switch which we had to disable when booting. Early during an HPO release (4.somethng IIRC), we even saw it interfere with a CP IPL until we worked with a Standalone Dump and Level

Re: Tape Modeset for 3480 XF

2006-06-09 Thread Imler, Steven J
George, Use HELP CMS TAPE ... It's TAPE MODESET ( DEN 38K JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior Software Engineer Tel: +1 703 708 3479 Fax: +1 703 708 3267 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Haddad Sent:

Re: Tape Modeset for 3480 XF

2006-06-09 Thread George Haddad
Steve, my HELPFILE shows DEN 38K as a valid Option-D, but also shows XF as valid, too. I'm trying to write an XF tape, not a 38K. Imler, Steven J wrote: George, Use HELP CMS TAPE ... It's TAPE MODESET ( DEN 38K JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior Software Engineer Tel: +1 703 708 3479 Fax: +1 703

Re: DDR to standard labeled tapes

2006-06-09 Thread Jim Bohnsack
You must be a kid if you don't know what 5081 cards are or am I the only one on the list who does? Jim At 03:11 PM 6/9/2006, you wrote: John, carry 5081 cards in my pocket Wow! 5,081 cards in your pocket!? Must be really small cards or really big pockets! Talk about playing with a full

Re: Tape Modeset for 3480 XF

2006-06-09 Thread George Haddad
Mike Walter wrote: UofKs TAPEMAP command is great, but badly out of date. Rich's TAPINFO modules may fall into the same bucket? I looked at the source for Rich's TAPINFO, and it just seems to do a SENSE to get its info. Other info appears correct (i.e. LDPT/NLDPT, RING/NORING, etc. Do you

5081

2006-06-09 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
My first job working in this industry was sorting and collating 101,000 5081s for year end processing. After sorting and collating the December then 4th quarter cards. I still have the ringing of that collator in my ears when I think of that. Around 1994 I worked at an IBM office that was

Re: DDR to standard labeled tapes

2006-06-09 Thread Schuh, Richard
I lost my last 5081 years ago, at the same time my -0 of the 360 reference card, yellow instead if green, disappeared from my desk drawer. We weren't issued desk keys because everyone is a professional and can be trusted. That -0 was considered a relic as we were on VM R3, going to R4, at the

Re: Tape Modeset for 3480 XF

2006-06-09 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 02:45:47PM -0500,Mike Walter Wrote: } UofKs TAPEMAP command is great, but badly out of date. Rich's TAPINFO } modules may fall into the same bucket? Well, it depends. :-) I haven't touched that module in a lng time. When I last did anything with density

Re: DDR to standard labeled tapes

2006-06-09 Thread Mike Walter
Thanks for the journey down memory lane... I thought my first keypunch was an IBM Model 26 keypunch (the rounded battleship gray ones), but that actually came later. My first exposure to a keypunch was during a Data Processing 101 course in college, c. 1969. Apparently I started on a model 29,

Re: DDR to standard labeled tapes

2006-06-09 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 03:54:45PM -0400,Jim Bohnsack Wrote: } You must be a kid if you don't know what 5081 cards are or am I the only } one on the list who does? I remember them. I tossed a full box of them in my last cross country move in 1997. -- Rich Greenberg N Ft Myers, FL, USA

Re: 5081

2006-06-09 Thread Robert Payne
I remember them ! The confetti was great to use on someone's desk that you did NOT like. :) LOL ... snip You must be a kid if you don't know what 5081 cards are or am I the only one on the list who does? Jim

Re: Tape Modeset for 3480 XF

2006-06-09 Thread George Haddad
Ah, that's consistent w/what I'm seeing. But the UofK TAPEMAP util *does* differentiate I'm suspecting it may be a HW issue, I just tried it on a different drive and it worked correctly (according to TAPEMAP). Rich Greenberg wrote: On: Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 02:45:47PM -0500,Mike Walter Wrote:

Re: 5081

2006-06-09 Thread George Haddad
Or New Yr's Eve. Robert Payne wrote: I remember them ! The confetti was great to use on someone's desk that you did NOT like. :) LOL ... snip You must be a kid if you don't know what 5081 cards are or am I the only one on the list who does? Jim

Re: 5081

2006-06-09 Thread Mike Walter
Oh, the memories... When I was an operator we used to break in new operators by having them place the punch chaff back in a well-used card so we can save money by re-using them -- the right color punched pieces with the right numbers into the right holes. After about 15 or 20 minutes of

Help with verifying a PTF

2006-06-09 Thread Steve Gentry
I need help verifying which ptf to put on. I'm running VM 5.2 service level 0601 and I need a new release of the IOCP utility. I used ResourceLink and when I got to the search screen, I entered VM2096 and got a couple of hits. I choose the 2096 option and in the lists of PTF's they recommend

Re: 5081

2006-06-09 Thread Parmelee, Phil
Kmart DID that! For their JCL Phil Parmelee Desk = (616) 456-4286 Cell = (616) 304-6917 -Original Message- From: Mike Walter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 4:33 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: 5081 Oh, the memories... When I was an operator we used to

Re: 5081

2006-06-09 Thread Schuh, Richard
Now that is a sign of being in trouble. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Parmelee, Phil Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 1:47 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject:Re: 5081 Kmart DID that!

Re: 5081

2006-06-09 Thread Schuh, Richard
I lost my last 5081 in 1980 - at the same time someone took my -0 360 reference card, yellow instead of green, from my desk. Both probably were lost to the same person. We were not issued desk keys, so I couldn't have kept them in a locked drawer. I probably should have invested in a strong

CAVMEN Meeting on Thursday, June 22, 2006

2006-06-09 Thread Chicago Area VM (and Linux) Enthusiasts
The third quarter meeting of the Chicago Area VM (and Linux) Enthusiasts will be held on Thursday, June 22, 2006. -- Meeting Location: This quarter's meeting will be held at the Hewitt Associates ' West Campus' at Four Overlook Point in the Lincolnshire Corporate Center. The

Re: Tape Modeset for 3480 XF

2006-06-09 Thread Jim Bohnsack
Aren't tape labels written at the least common denominator that a drive is capable of writing? If the density of a written tape is only checked by looking at the labels, that would explain what you are seeing. Jim At 03:45 PM 6/9/2006, you wrote: Wow, it really is Friday if JR appears to

TCPNJE SSL

2006-06-09 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
Does anyone use secure TCPNJE (SSL) support of VSE and/or JES and have a requirement for RSCS TCPNJE to support SSL? Is there a need for RSCS to support secure TCPNJE? Thanks, Les Geer

Re: TCPNJE SSL

2006-06-09 Thread David Boyes
Does anyone use secure TCPNJE (SSL) support of VSE and/or JES and have a requirement for RSCS TCPNJE to support SSL? Yes. If you're replacing private dedicated lines with shared packet infrastructure, you need to be able to protect the traffic. Is there a need for RSCS to support secure