Re: SCSIDISC SAMPEXEC on z/VM 5.4.0

2009-03-18 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:22 AM, Raymond Noal wrote: > The response I received from IBM was the result of my opening an ETR on the > subject. To protect the innocent, I did not mention the name of the IBM > employee who works in the z/VM I/O Development group – if that’s of any use. To give them

Re: SCSIDISC SAMPEXEC on z/VM 5.4.0

2009-03-18 Thread Raymond Noal
My apologies to the z/VM I/O Development Group. I was wrong. The signature of the responder to my ETR said - CP Support. HITACHI DATA SYSTEMS Raymond E. Noal Senior Technical Engineer Office: (408) 970 - 7978 From: Raymond Noal Sent: Wednesday, March 18,

Re: XEDIT Macro

2009-03-18 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Schuh, Richard wrote: > No. I have not figured out how to use READ to do what I want. So far, I > have succeeded only in getting the command line stacked; none of the > file lines, changed or not. So how is it done? When you issue the READ you get control back wh

Re: SCSIDISC SAMPEXEC on z/VM 5.4.0

2009-03-18 Thread Raymond Noal
Scott, The response I received from IBM was the result of my opening an ETR on the subject. To protect the innocent, I did not mention the name of the IBM employee who works in the z/VM I/O Development group - if that's of any use. Welcome aboard !! HITACHI DATA SYSTEMS Raymond E. Noal Sen

Re: SCSIDISC SAMPEXEC on z/VM 5.4.0

2009-03-18 Thread Scott Rohling
Well - I'm a staunch IBM employee myself, though I try to remain neutral in this forum. My influence is limited, so not a great loss ;-) I think even Chuckie will agree that providing a SAMPEXEC without the source is a misnomer and a packaging issue at the least.. I'm still hoping this was simp

Re: XEDIT Macro

2009-03-18 Thread Schuh, Richard
No. I have not figured out how to use READ to do what I want. So far, I have succeeded only in getting the command line stacked; none of the file lines, changed or not. So how is it done? Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:ib.

Re: SCSIDISC SAMPEXEC on z/VM 5.4.0

2009-03-18 Thread Raymond Noal
Hi Scott, Yes, I agree. This goes against years of IBM tradition and history of IBM employees sharing sample code with the user community to highlight a new function/feature of an operating system or application. I look at Kris Buelens (and others) who have graciously shared code they developed f

Re: XEDIT Macro

2009-03-18 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Schuh, Richard wrote: > Do not assume that normal defaults are in effect. I am an abnormal sort. > This is not a normal XEDIT session. Items are being displayed in XEDIT > and the viewer specifies the disposition of individual items by entries > in the prefix area

Re: SCSIDISC SAMPEXEC on z/VM 5.4.0

2009-03-18 Thread Scott Rohling
That does seem odd.. I would think it would be supplied named as EXEC in that case.. I agree it implies a 'sample' when named SAMPEXEC .. which is only useful when the 'sample' is human readable so you can see what a good sample looks like ;-) Inconsistent to say the least, but I'm not aware

Re: XEDIT Macro

2009-03-18 Thread Schuh, Richard
Do not assume that normal defaults are in effect. I am an abnormal sort. This is not a normal XEDIT session. Items are being displayed in XEDIT and the viewer specifies the disposition of individual items by entries in the prefix area which has been set to NULLS by the profile. Regards, Richard S

SCSIDISC SAMPEXEC on z/VM 5.4.0

2009-03-18 Thread Raymond Noal
Dear List Members: Just to save you some time and grief, I'm passing this along. We have just started using FCP devices for our Linux (SuSE & Red Hat) virtual machines running under our z/VM 5.4.0 system. In order to verify our hardware configuration and our switch configurations, I was able to u

Re: Anne Altman...

2009-03-18 Thread Austin, Alyce (CIV)
That was "easy"... Thanks, Alyce -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:29 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Anne Altman... Rather that post her personal contact info in

Re: Anne Altman...

2009-03-18 Thread Mike Walter
Rather that post her personal contact info in eternity on this list, try going to: http://www.ibm.com/contact/employees/us/ You can look up any IBM employee worldwide. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or

Re: Anne Altman...

2009-03-18 Thread Mark Wheeler
Alyce, She's registered on LinkedIn. You could try contacting her through there. Best regards, Mark > Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:19:23 -0700 > From: 00...@vm1.cc.nps.navy.mil > Subject: Anne Altman... > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > Hello, > > I would like to get in touch with Ann

Anne Altman...

2009-03-18 Thread Alyce Austin
Hello, I would like to get in touch with Anne K. Altman, General Manager, System Z IBM Systems and Techology Group. Can someone please send me her contact information? Thank you, Alyce Austin Naval Postgraduate School

Re: XEDIT Macro

2009-03-18 Thread Kris Buelens
By default, the values in the prefix areas are the line numbers, no? Or, if you'd ask the user to type various strings in the prefix, then EXTRACT PENDING is the way to go 2009/3/18 Schuh, Richard : > Does it really matter to you? > > When a specific PFK is pressed, I want to process according to

Re: XEDIT Macro

2009-03-18 Thread Schuh, Richard
Does it really matter to you? When a specific PFK is pressed, I want to process according to the values in the prefix areas of all lines in the file. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]

Re: XEDIT Macro

2009-03-18 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:45:05 -0700, Schuh, Richard wrot e: >Is there any way to access the prefix area of a line from an XEDIT >Macro? I see nothing in the EXTRACT command. Am I missing something >there? Is there some other way to access it? Here is a more complete example which shows all comman

Re: XEDIT Macro

2009-03-18 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:45:05 -0700, Schuh, Richard wrot e: >Is there any way to access the prefix area of a line from an XEDIT >Macro? I see nothing in the EXTRACT command. Am I missing something >there? Is there some other way to access it? If you are looking to see what commands are in the pre

Re: XEDIT Macro

2009-03-18 Thread Tom Duerbusch
If you are talking about writing your own prefix commands, the following is an example: PREFIXCD XEDIT Y2 /* CCD - COPY BLOCK OF LINES TO AN EXTERNAL CMS FILE */ /* THEY CAN THEN BE BROUGHT IN TO THE SAME OR */ /* OTHER XEDIT FILES AT A LATER TIME */ /*

Re: DMS5DF3366W SEVER FROM *IDENT

2009-03-18 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
Do I understand you correctly that if I use IUCV *IDENT the resname should be the filepoolid? And if I do that for any *local* pool, and then the fact that there is a global pool of the same name will not cause any problem? What about in the other direction? Is the REMOTE sfs server affected when

Re: XEDIT Macro

2009-03-18 Thread Rich Smrcina
Title: XEDIT Macro Schuh, Richard wrote: Is there any way to access the prefix area of a line from an XEDIT Macro? I see nothing in the EXTRACT command. Am I missing something there? Is there some other way to access it? Regards, Richard Schuh That begs a question:  What

XEDIT Macro

2009-03-18 Thread Schuh, Richard
Is there any way to access the prefix area of a line from an XEDIT Macro? I see nothing in the EXTRACT command. Am I missing something there? Is there some other way to access it? Regards, Richard Schuh

Re: Quick Guides

2009-03-18 Thread Schuh, Richard
The newbie can be a tough one. When I was with Amdahl, we always sought out newbies and had them try to do it by the book. It is interesting to see the different ways that peoples minds work, the different ways that they interpret the same prose. Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Messa

Re: Quick Guides

2009-03-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/18/2009 at 09:39 EDT, Colin Allinson wrote: > I think we are in danger of somewhat missing the point of the quick guide. I > never considered it to be full and comprehensive instructions for someone who > has never done an install before. The manual does that job very well.

Re: DMS5DF3366W SEVER FROM *IDENT

2009-03-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/18/2009 at 12:08 EDT, Shimon Lebowitz wrote: > Now, I am trying to see how to *prevent* the problem. > > I tried starting up a LOCAL server with > IUCV *IDENT RESANY LOCAL > but it refuses to initialize. > When I left in RESANY GLOBAL the two systems still seem to > interact,

Re: Version 4 to Version 5

2009-03-18 Thread Ron Schmiedge
Hi Simon, We did exactly what you describe when we moved from z/VM 4.4 to z/VM 5.2 - backed up the spool with SPXTAPE on the 4.4 system, brought up the z/VM 5.2 system with new spool volumes, and restored the 4.4 SPXTAPE under 5.2. No problems. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Dave Jones wrote:

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-18 Thread Rich Smrcina
Brian Nielsen wrote: I'm clearly swimming upstream, but I've never used the quick guides, and probably never will. Anything that is a summary of something else carries the risk of not being complete. Brian Nielsen I never used the quick guide either. Brian pretty much summed up the reas

Re: Quick Guides (was: Please tell me I did something stupid)

2009-03-18 Thread Mike Walter
> I appreciate the sentiments. We are not particularly happy about getting > rid of them, but their time had come. In order to keep it to "one page", > the page was going to have to grow to a non-standard piece of paper > because the font was too small, both from an IBM printing standards > per

Re: DMS5DF3366W SEVER FROM *IDENT

2009-03-18 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
OK, Thank you Alan. Now, I am trying to see how to *prevent* the problem. I tried starting up a LOCAL server with IUCV *IDENT RESANY LOCAL but it refuses to initialize. When I left in RESANY GLOBAL the two systems still seem to interact, even if I have LOCAL in the DMSPARMS file. The other system

OT: IBM said to be in talks to buy Sun Microsystems

2009-03-18 Thread Dave Jones
Bloomberg News is reporting that IBM is holding talks with Sun Microsystem to buy them out: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/biz/6318756.html -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com

Re: Version 4 to Version 5

2009-03-18 Thread John Franciscovich
>However, at least I can assume (I hope) that there is no >problem with V5 loading files dumped by V4 SPXTAPE. >Right? :-) Right. No PTFs required, as someone else suggested. In the unlikely event that you do encounter a problem with this, please contact the Support Center. John Franciscovich z/V

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-18 Thread Adam Thornton
On Mar 18, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: Checklists and other preparatory advice, based on real-world experience, are ponies of a different color. They would definitely be a value- add, providing *guidance* (opinion) where IBM can usually only provide a *procedure*. Hey, man, *you'

Re: Version 4 to Version 5

2009-03-18 Thread Schuh, Richard
How else? Perhaps by providing a compatibility PTF that allows the new SPXTAPE to DUMP the old system's files. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:28 A

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/18/2009 at 10:48 EDT, Adam Thornton wrote: > It strikes me that, given that we have several versions' worth of > excellent models, there's nothing really stopping, um, one of *us* > from doing a set of one page versions, one for tape, for first level > DVD, and for second level

Re: DMS5DF3366W SEVER FROM *IDENT

2009-03-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/18/2009 at 09:51 EDT, Shimon Lebowitz wrote: > As a result of a careless mistake (starting an ISLINK between systems > running SFS servers by the same name), the servers got this message: > DMS5DF3366W SEVER FROM *IDENT FOR RESOURCE YPOOL. REASON CODE 0 > After correcting the pr

Re: New CMS based SSLSERV problem... DTCSSL300E

2009-03-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/18/2009 at 09:49 EDT, "Mrohs, Ray" wrote: > This is slightly off-topic but if anyone has the 5.4 SSLSERV running > with the Rumba or WRQ Reflection 3270 emulator, please contact me > offline. Thanks. Neither Rumba nor Reflection work correctly. We are working with Attachmate t

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-18 Thread Adam Thornton
On Mar 18, 2009, at 3:10 AM, Rob van der Heij wrote: Bad idea to throw them away. But I would be happy with a "summary" chapter in the book that has the scenario for those who are not completely new to z/VM installation. It strikes me that, given that we have several versions' worth of excel

Re: Version 4 to Version 5

2009-03-18 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Simon. I think that spool files dumped to tape from z/VM V4 SPXTAPE should be restorable by z/VM V5 SPXTAPE. How else could sites move their V4 spool files to V5 when they do an upgrade? But I would do a little test first, if I could, just to make sure. Have a good one. Shimon Lebowitz w

Re: Version 4 to Version 5

2009-03-18 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
Ivan Warren i...@vmfacility.fr asked: > SPXTAPE ? And of course the answer is 'yes', but... In fact I have decided NOT to ipl on the same spool volumes and same CP OWNED list, but to use SPXTAPE to move (copy) the spool to new volumes. However, at least I can assume (I hope) that there is no

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-18 Thread Brian Nielsen
I'm clearly swimming upstream, but I've never used the quick guides, and probably never will. Anything that is a summary of something else carrie s the risk of not being complete. Brian Nielsen On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:36:17 -0400, Alan Altmark wrote: >On Tuesday, 03/17/2009 at 09:45 EDT,

DMS5DF3366W SEVER FROM *IDENT

2009-03-18 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
As a result of a careless mistake (starting an ISLINK between systems running SFS servers by the same name), the servers got this message: DMS5DF3366W SEVER FROM *IDENT FOR RESOURCE YPOOL. REASON CODE 0 After correcting the problem (deactivating the link), is there any way short of IPL CMS to reco

Re: New CMS based SSLSERV problem... DTCSSL300E

2009-03-18 Thread Mrohs, Ray
This is slightly off-topic but if anyone has the 5.4 SSLSERV running with the Rumba or WRQ Reflection 3270 emulator, please contact me offline. Thanks. Ray Mrohs U.S. Department of Justice 202-307-6896 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.ed

Re: Persistant Flashcopy

2009-03-18 Thread Eric R Farman
Hi Crispin, > This is fine. When I do RESYNC to update change from SOURCE to TARGET , > it overwrites label of TARGET volume. This is not what I need. Any > suggestions as to what I am doing wrong ? You're not doing anything wrong, but RESYNC may indeed not be doing what you want. If that's the

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-18 Thread Huegel, Thomas
For my two cents I have never used the quick guide. I read through it, but always open the book. Just a comfort factor I guess. I do agree though that seperating 1st and 2nd level instructions is a much better approach that skipping sections. Maybe a flowchart approach might be a good idea. -

Quick Guides (was: Please tell me I did something stupid)

2009-03-18 Thread Colin Allinson
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: > I appreciate the sentiments. We are not particularly happy about getting > rid of them, but their time had come. In order to keep it to "one page", > the page was going to have to grow to a non-standard piece of paper > because the font

VSWITCH not working with VLANs

2009-03-18 Thread Jan de Wet - Business Connexion
Hi I have been called back to VM to help with a problem VLANs and VSWITCH we have a z/VM 5.4 system with a VSWITCH through which VM and a some Linux systems talk The OSA card is connected to a Cisco 2950 On the 2950 the link is defined as an accessport for VLAN 13 On the VSWITCH all users are d

Re: Setup XLINK

2009-03-18 Thread Buettner, Wolfgang
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Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-18 Thread william JANULIN
I agree.when I was working, I used the quick guides, knowing full well that there was a more detailed install doc available.just in case. --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Mike Hammock wrote: > From: Mike Hammock > Subject: Re: Please tell me I did something stupid > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > D

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-18 Thread Mike Hammock
It sounds like this may come under the heading of "beating a dead horse", but that has never stopped VM Sysprogs before, so I've used the Quick Guides for 5 or 6 zVM installs so far and I don't think I've ever used an IBM printed hard copy of them yet. I've always printed a copy from the .PDF

Persistant Flashcopy

2009-03-18 Thread Crispin Hugo
I have been playing with Persistant Flashcopy that was introduced to z/VM with APAR VM64449. Great fun! I have established flashcopy relationships between two packs A1 and B1 and have specified that I want to keep label of target volume so I don't get duplicate volumes. FLASHCOPY ESTABLI

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-18 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: > I appreciate the sentiments.  We are not particularly happy about getting > rid of them, but their time had come.  In order to keep it to "one page", > the page was going to have to grow to a non-standard piece of paper > because the font was