Dave -
DDR only works on like devices so a 3380 dump must be restored to
3380 devices.
What is the actual hardware you want to restore to? Maybe it will
allow you to emulate 3380 DASD.
/Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 46 years
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Note: This is an automated response to your message Re: 3380 DDR to
I didn't mean to be smart, sorry if it came out that way. I just wanted
to stress that everything you need to perform a DR, including hardcopy
reports, utility tapes, DR procedure manual, CD's with software
manuals, etc. has to be on a DR site or in the off-site storage, that's
all.
Ivica,
that is not true
I have cut from 3380 too 3390 mod 3's w/o a problem
some one else stated it will work going to larger devices
Fran Hensler
Kris,
All true. I just didn't want to go into too much detail to express a
simple point.
We do use DASD-vendor provided software (neatly avoiding posting the
vendor name) which provides writes to all mainframe DASD to be
concurrently written to DASD at both campuses. The DASD at each campus
sorry, just read this closer, you want to DDR full volume
Fran Hensler
f...@zvm.sru.edu
Mirroring does not replace good backup tapes: an accidental ERASE or FORMAT
is mirrored perfectly well to your DR site.
Yes. Mirroring does not make any tape backups redundant, but they do
drop to plan B in case of disaster. They remain plan A if you lose a
file or a disk and even then
These didn't happen to be 3380 TCM on 3390s?
Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
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We've an application that gets HCPLIM6007I, and eventually 6008E or 6009E
Short of logging off/on, is there a way for the logon to advise CP
they nolonger need it?
It seems to survive a CP IPL or CP SYSTEM CLEAR...
The disconnected machines, don't appear to be doing any of the items
mentioned
Gregg,
Can you give us a general idea of what the machines are supposed to be doing?
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Gregg
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:25 AM
To:
Richard, they are sending performance queries to TPF images;
ACTIVE(ACTION? can't recall for sure), VISTA like but called TASTE on
this system over ESCON CTCs; We've an IP flavor that we're moving to
that doesn't have this issue or hasn't shown any in other systems.
Many years ago, our VISTACTL
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Gregg
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:25 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: System Free Storage
We've an application that gets HCPLIM6007I, and eventually
6008E or
Hadn't but just tried; 16M machine, CP DEF STOR 16M and STOR 32M;
still have, 142 double words if I'm looking at the right place in the
VMDBK... and I think I am...
Just out of curiousity, have you tried doing a CP DEFINE STORAGE?
--
John McKown
Gregg Reed
No Plan, survives execution
Vista. That brings back memories. Howard Grams created the original ACTIVE
while at TWA. Vista was our second generation, much more versatile,
replacement, written at Piedmont Airlines in 1985. Howard wrote the code for
the VISTACTL machine and the ALC terminal emulation; I wrote the CTC code.
On Wednesday, 12/16/2009 at 12:25 EST, Gregg reed.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
We've an application that gets HCPLIM6007I, and eventually 6008E or
6009E
Short of logging off/on, is there a way for the logon to advise CP
they nolonger need it?
It seems to survive a CP IPL or CP SYSTEM CLEAR...
The
The message says that it is CP Free Storage that is being depleted, not virtual
storage. Defining storage is not likely to be a solution.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Gregg
Sent:
We are looking for a replacement to our current backup methods and are
looking for recommendations. We are currently running several Linux
virtual machines on two VM LPARs and have been backing these up, as well
as our VM system volumes, via our z/OS system using ADRDSSU. We also use
TSM
Correct, though redefining virtual machine storage to a different size
performs a reset clear function on the virtual machine, which could well
help clear up the problem.
But as Alan says, this isn't typically something a customer can unravel
looking at the system from the outside.
- Bill
Ok, I should have read the whole thread more carefully - both re-IPL and
SYSTEM CLEAR had already been tried with no effect, redefining virtual
storage would be a similar no-op. I think Richard's probably on the righ
t
track with the theory about SMSG backlogs building up, resetting the virt
ual
Simply a SYSTEM CLEAR or an IPL CLEAR would work as well. So would a LOG OFF/ON
sequence. None is an actual solution of the problem, they simply buy time by
sweeping it under the rug until the next time. If I had a recurring problem of
CP Free Storage being consumed to its limits, I would want
The CA products are significantly more expensive, but are substantially more
polished and functional. If you go CA, seriously consider VM:Secure as well
-- it's dramatically better than RACF/VM if you don't need to share a
database with z/OS any more.
Too bad TSM/VM isn't really viable any more.
Bill Holder wrote:
Ok, I should have read the whole thread more carefully - both re-IPL and
SYSTEM CLEAR had already been tried with no effect, redefining virtual
storage would be a similar no-op. I think Richard's probably on the right
track with the theory about SMSG backlogs building up,
Hi Barbara,
I can't comment on the IBM products, since I have no exposure to them.
We have used the CA products, and are very happy with them.
What you use for backup depends on how you use the system. Do you have
lots of CMS users, or do you just use CMS for VM and Linux
administration? With
On the DVD installation of 5.4 what machine is one installing from ? SEC540 is
my second level machine. I have a DVD drive attached to my PC.
AM I using first level VM/TCPIP with FTPSERVE and TCPMAINT at first level ? Do
I install while logged on to SEC540? The book says logon to your first
What you use for backup depends on how you use the system. Do you have
lots of CMS users, or do you just use CMS for VM and Linux
administration? With lots of CMS users, you will need a file level
backup program, such as VM:Backup.
Or if you plan to use any of the newer goodies in VM like the
In the movie In Search of the Holy Grail, the knights who say nee could
not bear to hear a certain words. One of those words was it.
It appears that best practice may be not to ask about -
(words redacted).
Thanks to all who responded.
--. .- .-. -.--
Gary Dennis
Mantissa
CA's VMBackup HiDRO does everything except Linux file-level backups. We
use it here to backup CMS minidisks, SFS, and full DASD images. As a
bonus, it has a standalone module for bare metal DR restores. It will
backup and restore whole Linux volumes but as stated before, the Linux
instance better
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From: l character lcharacte...@yahoo.com
To: vmesa IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 2:46:00 PM
Subject: DVD 5.4 installation second level confusion
On the DVD installation of 5.4 what machine is one installing from ? SEC540 is
my second level
On the DVD installation of 5.4 what machine is one installing from ? SEC540 is
my second level machine. I have a DVD drive attached to my PC.
AM I using first level VM/TCPIP with FTPSERVE and TCPMAINT at first level ? Do
I install while logged on to SEC540? The book says logon to your first
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Bill Holder hold...@us.ibm.com wrote:
Correct, though redefining virtual machine storage to a different size
performs a reset clear function on the virtual machine, which could well
help clear up the problem.
Just wagging, but the fair share before CP gets
The season is approaching again where many of the subscribers enjoy
some days off...
Could you please check again that you have excluded the mailing lists
from the senders who get an automatic reply on incoming mail. If your
mail system can't get that right (because it replies to the from
rather
I'm excited at the number of responses to my question! I'm going to
throw out some more details since some folks are interested in know more
about what exactly we're attempting to do.
We are attempting to move a customer from a Multiprise 2000 running VM
3.1 and their custom CMS-based application
We migrated from a Multiprise 2000 running z/VM 3.1 to a z/9 BC by first
migrating from the internal DASD to a temporary external DASD unit
provided by our storage vendor that both machines could access. We then
cutover to z/VM 5.3 running on the z/9 (no big deal), then migrated from
the temporary
If it's a CMS application ... you could use something like FCOPY or VMARC
-- pack up the disks into one file per minidisk (APP1 DISK0191) -- then
copy those to tape, file by file -- unburst them on the other side to
properly sized 3390 minidisks (format them first). Some simple automation
On Wednesday, 12/16/2009 at 02:13 EST, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net
wrote:
The CA products are significantly more expensive, but are substantially
more
polished and functional. If you go CA, seriously consider VM:Secure as
well
-- it's dramatically better than RACF/VM if you don't need
Hi, Barbara.
I've had good luck with the IBM system management products, with the
exception of the Archive Manager, which I haven't used at all. IBM
Support is also very good, imho.
I'd be more than happy to discuss this with you in more detail off-list,
if you'd like. Happy Holidays.
On
I thought that being a CMS bigot was the first prerequisite for being on this
list :-)
Regards,
Richard Schuh
- Command syntax. Not. :-) I give high marks to VM:Secure
for CMS bigots.
:grump.
On 12/16/09 5:03 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote:
So. You had to push the Do Not Push button? ;-) You are painting with a
too-wide brush. Better is in the eye of the beholder. When choosing an
ESM, you need to assess, aside from cost:
*sigh*
While your points
On Wednesday, 12/16/2009 at 09:21 EST, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net
wrote:
:grump.
On 12/16/09 5:03 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote:
So. You had to push the Do Not Push button? ;-) You are painting
with a
too-wide brush. Better is in the eye of the beholder.
There is a pure software solution available, not free, but I don't know
what the licensing costs are.
To quote the vendor: VM Magic, a system software extension to the IBM
Virtual Machine (VM) facility, gives the VM user the capability of
simulating any supported disk device. Compatibility
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