MS,
What`s the frutifullness of this disucssion if you are not able to listen,
There are 28 threads in this discussion and nearly every guy tried to tell
you that go and check your facts correctly.
I REPEAT, you are not AWARE of GPL and TRADEMARKS.
And STOP TOP POSTING. That`s against ILUGD ma
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 9:48 AM, M.S.Yatnatti wrote:
> I have used red hat version 5.2 6.2 7.2 7.3 8 9 and Fedora 1-9 and white box
> centos debain koppix etc.
Please use spellchecker and add 'Debian' to your dictionary too.
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2008/10/12 M.S.Yatnatti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Thank you for insulting me by
> your earlier posting.ButI respectfully agree to disagree that
As long as some one replies, you can go on. When new issues are raised
som
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From: Gaurav Mishra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux
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To: "The Linux-Delhi mailing list"
Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 2:51 AM
Stop guys replying to this thread and this thread w
Stop guys replying to this thread and this thread will die once and for all,
There are enough internet depressive childs, He is one of them
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--- On Sun, 10/12/08, Sudhanwa Jogalekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Sudhanwa Jogalekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute
Dear MSY,
People are trying to help you understand things in the proper
context/perspective. However, it seems that you are still not able to
accept anybodys opinions/views.
That leads you to a dead end and nobody can help you at that point.
First of all, it was a wrong starting point -- some ar
Dear Sir,
"M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Dear sir , We have noted your points .Thanks for your feed back.For
> some persons freedom of software is looks like fun.When we lose
> total freedom then only we understand the value of freedom. But
> FOSS is big commu
M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD wrote:
> Dear sir ,
> We have noted your points .Thanks for your feed back.For some persons
> freedom� of software is looks like fun.When we lose total freedom then only
> we understand the value of freedom. But FOSS is big community .it will take
> care of every bo
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--- On Sat, 10/11/08, Mahesh T. Pai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Mahesh T. Pai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux
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To: ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org
Date: Saturday, October 11,
On Sat, Oct 11 2008, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:
>>
>>What _is_ the basic issue here?
>>
>>manoj
>
> Manoj,
>
> Try to catch my point: "You won't kill me out of some misplaced sense of
> self-righteousness, and I won't kill you, because you're just too much fun.
> I think you and I are
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:29 AM, Nandeep Mali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:18 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Try to catch my point: "You won't kill me out of some misplaced sense of
> > self-righteousness, and I won't kill you, because you're just t
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:18 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Try to catch my point: "You won't kill me out of some misplaced sense of
> self-righteousness, and I won't kill you, because you're just too much fun.
> I think you and I are destined to do this forever."
>
> I hope you
>
>What _is_ the basic issue here?
>
>manoj
Manoj,
Try to catch my point: "You won't kill me out of some misplaced sense of
self-righteousness, and I won't kill you, because you're just too much fun.
I think you and I are destined to do this forever."
I hope you understand what I
On Sat, Oct 11 2008, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:
>> "Pappu ka CD".
>
> I have been reading this thread for a while, but didn't have much to
> say. Mr Yatnatti is raising some genuine and good points. Hope some
> conclusion will come out, sooner or later.
In that case, could you please transla
> "Pappu ka CD".
I have been reading this thread for a while, but didn't have much to
say. Mr Yatnatti is raising some genuine and good points. Hope some
conclusion will come out, sooner or later.
I am basically a writer to can't suggest anything. I just saw the Dark
Knight last night and I can
"M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> comment.Is it any court has resolved this issue or FSF has resolved
> this issue or Copyright Holders have resolved this issue or Red hat
> has filed any case against redistributing the RHEL and has won the
> case .If it was resolv
On Sat, Oct 11 2008, M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD wrote:
> You feel that issue is resolved.But many other don't feel like that.
You do not mention specifically what issue it is you are talking
about, but I assume it is about Red Hat aggregating some software,
part of which is under t
I know that this is a flamebait, but ...
"M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? if so why?
Please go through the license which comes with RHEL.
> Under what provision of trademark law Redhat claims the
> copyrights and where it
d FSF.
M.S.Yatnatti
--- On Sat, 10/11/08, "Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: "Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux
For You India
To: "The Linux-Delhi maili
M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD wrote:
> Thanks for your response. I
> did not asked you to provide me what red hat says in its websites .As
> you have forwarded me the list. I need your views on the topic .Your logic.
I am pretty much surprised as to why you are so eager to obtain,
collect, collat
Stop TOP POSTING
Give replies inline
If you are not able to follow such simple thing , You are SIMPLY STUPID
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Dear
Mr Sankarshan,
Thanks for your response. I
did not asked you to provide me what red hat says in its websites .As
you have forwarded me the list. I need your views on the topic .Your logic.
Otherwise please don't reply.
http://www.red
[there is no sane way I could unwrap the word wrap in this mail -
apologies in advance]
M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD wrote:
> I really unable to understand why my mails in the list are cobbling.Don't
> worry about that . In few days I shall have document neatly typed in very
> proper manner..D
Dear PJ,
I really unable to understand why my mails in the list are cobbling.Don't worry
about that . In few days I shall have document neatly typed in very proper
manner..Do you thinkh that we don't need GPL any more or GPL is strong , which
can defend the internal and external threats.Is it i
2008/10/9 M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> original-which is the RPM format. RPM stands for RedHat Package
> Manager after the creators of this packaging method.
It used to be, not any more. It is RPM Package Manager now. See rpm.org
Cheers
Praveen
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Dear Mr Sandip,
I have noted down your points. Thanks for your valuable feed back. Slow and
steady wins the race .I am getting lot of responses and e-mails .I shall go o
I believe that Mr. Yatnatti's arguments on this topic are very much
relevant and definitely *not* a troll. His communication style might
not please everyone though. :)
That said, for all the questions I had raised some weeks back against
Redhat's ambiguous distribution policy, this thread by hi
Dear Praveen ,Thank you for your inputs. My study
will continue on the question Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL?.and even I
shall meet and seek inputs
from redhat people and get educated on the subject. I have attended
several redhat presentations
2008/10/5 M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>You.the article title is : Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL?.Published in
>september 2008.
CentOS redistribute RHEL, but with a different name. This is exactly
similar to Debian distributing Firefox with a different name (Ice
Weasel)
Dear Praveen,
You have assumed the questions on my behalf .BUT I will frame my questions in
few days.Hope fully you will be able to reply. .After that i conclude my
discussion. I know that Redhat is open source leader and it will go beyond GPL
and it is acording to them Redhat is not violating
Is there really any point in wasting time responding to an
(ill-informed) troll? Like a fire, the more you feed it the larger it
gets.
It's obvious the OP either doesn't have and want to have the simplest
basic grasp of licences and trademarks, or he does and is deliberately
confusing facts o
2008/10/4 M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> My research on the GPL in regards with trademarks in respect to the question
> is this.
> Please read the link carefully
> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html
> There are Three paragraphs under the
Karanbir Singh wrote:
> You are wrongly assuming that rhel is made up of GPL software. Go check
> your facts.
s/of G/of only G/
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M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD wrote:
> Dear Karanji,I don't understand why you want suppress the open voices .
You seem to also suffer comprehension disabilities if thats what you
infer from my last email.
> Do you think that only few people have eligibility to talk on the
> subject.Others hav
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From: Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux
For You India print Magzine India
To: "The Linux-Delhi mailing list"
Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 3:55 AM
M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMI
M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD wrote:
> Dear Harish PIllay
> I am educating myself about four kinds of freedom, for the users of the
> software as per GPL .Freedom number two Redhat does not want to give user
> for RHEL Linux Distribution .The
> freedom to redistribute copies so you can help y
M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD wrote:
> Dear Mr Atanu,
> I am thankful for your cool reply.Please provide me the link where GPL
> provides branding of GPLed software's..
> At the same time please provide me what happens to four freedoms guaranteed
> in GPL at http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw
Yatnatti -
> I am educating myself about four kinds of freedom, for the users of the
> software as per GPL
> .Freedom number two Redhat does not want to give user for RHEL Linux
> Distribution .The
> freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbour (freedom 2).
Since you are ea
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--- On Sat, 10/4/08, Atanu Datta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Subject: Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux
For You India pr
On Saturday 04 October 2008 15:18:06 M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD wrote:
Dear Mr. M.S.Yatnatti,
I understand many have tried to answer your query. Let me try once again: The
answer why you can't redistribute RHEL is only because of the branding issues.
The full RH sources are available on pub
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--- On Sat, 10/4/08, Sudhanwa Jogalekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Sudhanwa Jogalekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux
For You India print Magzine
Hi All,
@Sudhanwa:
Thanks- your message is very enlightening and came while I was drafting this
mail.
Perhaps even I will now sign off from discussion (or perhaps not!!!)
@MSY:
>Please note that we can discuss on the subject.Personal attacks don't solve
the the debate.
>
Respected Mr.MSY,
I have
.To read this much i
> don't need any lawyer.Thanks for your inputs in discussion .
> M.S.Yatnatti
>
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From: Nalin Savara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux
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To: "The Linux-Delhi mailing list"
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 2:09 PM
Hi All on ILugD, Praveen,
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To: "The Linux-Delhi mailing list"
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 1:08 PM
Yatnatti -
Hi. I canno
Hi All on ILugD, Praveen, Sudhanwa, Shantz, Harish, et al,
Guys, this guy is a troll-- dont feed the troll.
After making my post I saw his websites--- and googled around--- and saw
that the OP is a troll of the worst kind-- see his websites and even you
guys will realize that.
He has even inclu
Yatnatti -
Hi. I cannot help but be bewildered by your discussions on the
legality of distributing Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Red Hat (note the
two words), puts every bit of code out on GPL. In fact, Red Hat
goes above and beyond the minimum needed for compliance
with the GPL by placing all the
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For You India print Magzine India
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Date
2008/10/3 M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Dear Praveen,
>
> Thank you for participating in the debate.Are you educating the open
> FOSS community that any body can club all individual GPL software into
> one Mega software collection under one umbrella using anaconda or Yum
> wh
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:18 PM, M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Praveen,
>
> Thank you for participating in the debate.Are you educating the open
> FOSS community that any body can club all individual GPL software into
> one Mega software collection under one umbrel
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:18 PM, M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Praveen,
Dear Sir,
> Thank you for participating in the debate.Are you educating the open
> FOSS community that any body can club all individual GPL software into
> one Mega software collection under
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--- On Thu, 10/2/08, Praveen A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Praveen A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux
F
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Praveen A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/9/30 Sudhanwa Jogalekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> It is really unfortunate to know that people of CEO level are not able
>> to understand the Trade Marks and Licenses.
>
> I believe what you meant was Trademarks and Copyright
2008/9/30 Sudhanwa Jogalekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> It is really unfortunate to know that people of CEO level are not able
> to understand the Trade Marks and Licenses.
I believe what you meant was Trademarks and Copyrights. You can have
Copyright License (GPL is one such) and Trademark License (w
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:47 AM, M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Every Body,
>
> Could you dare to challenge if redhat puts its logo and art work at
> your property and products and claim trademark ownership rights ? in
> the similar way would you object redhat which
Hi Yatnatti,
On face of it, I can see what your objection is.
but brother, remember that since Linux is Open Source RedHat is bound to
release the source codes of whatever they sell--- and if someone wants--
s/he can have/distribute for zero or very low price (even 1 cent) what
RedHat sells for t
On Mon, Sep 29 2008, M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD wrote:
> Could you dare to challenge if redhat puts its logo and art work at
> your property and products and claim trademark ownership rights ? in
> the similar way would you object redhat which has put its logo and art
> work in RHEL Linux dist
On Tuesday 30 Sep 2008, M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD wrote:
snip ...
This topic was discussed in this mailing list a few weeks ago. Please
search through the mailing list archives.
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> Could you dare to challenge if redhat puts its logo and art work at
> your property and products and claim trademark ownership rights ? in
> the similar way would you object redhat which has put its logo and
> art work in RHEL Linux dis
Hi Every Body,
Could you dare to challenge if redhat puts its logo and art work at
your property and products and claim trademark ownership rights ? in
the similar way would you object redhat which has put its logo and art
work in RHEL Linux distribution and claimed the trade mark product
ownersh
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