Re: What distribution and why?

2008-04-14 Thread Hubert Kleinmanns
Kevin, does "MQ" mean "WebSphere MQ"? We are working with WebSphere MQ on SUSE for several years and it works fine. Regards Hubert > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Linux on 390 Port > Gesendet: 14.04.08 12:36:08 > An: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Betreff: Re: What distribution and why?

Re: What distribution and why?

2008-04-14 Thread Evans, Kevin R
We use RHEL and if I remember correctly (I don't work on the zLinux project directly) it was to do with RHEL compatibility with some other software at the time we started (several years ago). Maybe it was MQ, although not sure. If it is important I can ask the folks that do work on it. K -

Re: What distribution and why?

2008-04-14 Thread Evans, Kevin R
Mark is right in that he is much more active in this forum an RH even though Brad does pop in sometimes. Not sure that this is a deciding factor or not...I'm sure there are more important factors. Having said that, I'm sure Mark has helped MANY people in this list. K -Original Message- Fr

Re: What distribution and why?

2008-04-14 Thread Evans, Kevin R
Hubert, No, it doesn't. We do use MQ "only" and have our own CICS adapters to directly manipulate the queues. From talking to one of the zLinux developers this morning, he is not sure he remembers the exact reasons. Message Broker springs to mind because we did "play" with that for a while bef

Re: What distribution and why?

2008-04-14 Thread Hubert Kleinmanns
Kevin, what's exactly is your problem? As I told we are working with WebSphere MQ without any problems on SLES10 and it worked before on SLES8 (we did not test it on SLES9). Possibly your own CICS adapters interfere with some other stuff on SUSE, which is not installed on RH. The WebSphere Mes

Re: What distribution and why?

2008-04-14 Thread Evans, Kevin R
Hubert, We don't have a problem...I was only replying to an inquiry from Robert Nix where he asked "what distro people used and why". What I was saying was some backup to "why" we use RHEL. Our CICS adapters are totally separate from the zLinux code (which runs under z/VM), so no interference

Re: What distribution and why?

2008-04-14 Thread David Boyes
> what's exactly is your problem? Easy, easy... this isn't IBM-MAIN or LKML. Play nice. > Last question: What do you mean with "MQ only"? Probably has to do with the recent (and IMHO not beneficial) renaming of MQ to be part of the Websphere megalith. Not everyone got the memo on the new name,

Re: What distribution and why?

2008-04-14 Thread Evans, Kevin R
David, I didn't think that people weren't playing nice. But, your observation about the megalith is right on. We don't use Websphere, per se, here but we do use MQ Series queues and adapters running under CICS to manipulate the queues. I'm not sure why Hubert thought I had a problem, maybe didn't

Re: What distribution and why?

2008-04-14 Thread Hubert Kleinmanns
Hi, > what's exactly is your problem? I just want to understand, what may be going wrong and - possibly - provide a solution. > Not everyone got the memo on the new name, and the phrase > "Websphere MQ" commonly still parsed as Websphere + MQ. I know, but there are many other queuing products

Re: What distribution and why?

2008-04-14 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Evans, Kevin R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We don't have a problem...I was only replying to an inquiry from Robert Nix > where he asked "what distro people used and why". What I was saying was some > backup to "why" we use RHEL. We see that Red Hat is more str

Re: What distribution and why?

2008-04-14 Thread Hubert Kleinmanns
Kevin, maybe I misunderstood your mail, but you wrote "We use RHEL and if I remember correctly (I don't work on the zLinux project directly) it was to do with RHEL compatibility with some other software at the time we started (several years ago). Maybe it was MQ, ...". I am working several yea

Re: What distribution and why?

2008-04-14 Thread John Summerfield
David Boyes wrote: Probably has to do with the recent (and IMHO not beneficial) renaming of MQ to be part of the Websphere megalith. Not everyone got the memo on the new name, and the phrase "Websphere MQ" commonly still parsed as Websphere + MQ, not just the pure MQ we used to have to cope with

Re: What distribution and why?

2008-04-14 Thread Evans, Kevin R
As I said, though, I don't have a problem...but thanks for trying to help! Regards, kevin -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hubert Kleinmanns Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 9:23 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: What distribution an

Re: What distribution and why?

2008-04-14 Thread Evans, Kevin R
Hi Hubert, I'm not sure that we even remember the exact issue . However, once we settled on RHEL (based on those original issues which would have been 2 to 2.5 years ago), we settled on RHEL and are now invested in it. Probably too hard to change now even if we wanted to! Regards, Kevin

Adding LCS Ethernet on a z9 for z/Linux LPAR (NO VM)

2008-04-14 Thread Sam Bass
Hi, We are trying to add another OSA LCS Ethernet on our z/9 z/Linux LPAR (SLES 10 sp1) CHP F1 is defined in IODF as OSE Looking at some PDFs I see that it say that we only have to do the following: echo 0.0.f100,0.0.f101 > /sys/bus/ccwgroup/drivers/lcs/group 1. Without an "echo -n

Re: recover root password

2008-04-14 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
One way to to fix it is to use your rescue system to mount the amnesiac system's / fs at /mnt, chroot to /mnt and run passwd to change root's pw. This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally

recover root password

2008-04-14 Thread Miguel Roman
Hello, We are running Suse Linux 9.3 (64 bit) under z/VM 5.1. One of the administrators changed the root password and forgot the password. Does anyone know how to recover the root password? Thanks. Miguel A Roman. -- For LINU

Re: recover root password

2008-04-14 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:03 AM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Miguel Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > We are running Suse Linux 9.3 (64 bit) under z/VM 5.1. One of the > administrators changed the root password and forgot the password. Does > anyone know how to recover the ro

Re: recover root password

2008-04-14 Thread Marcy Cortes
Does anyone have full sudo? Then you could just sudo su - passwd And change it. Marcy Cortes "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any a

Re: Adding LCS Ethernet on a z9 for z/Linux LPAR (NO VM)

2008-04-14 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:48 AM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sam Bass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -snip- > Looking at some PDFs I see that it say that we only have to do the > following: > > echo 0.0.f100,0.0.f101 > /sys/bus/ccwgroup/drivers/lcs/group > > 1.Without an "echo -n"

Re: recover root password

2008-04-14 Thread David K. Kelly
Miguel, For things like this VM is the Bomb! Just make the root drive from the locked server available for a different Lunix guest, (making sure the one with the locked out root account is down) and boot the 2nd guest. Then mount the new disk as /mnt and cd /mnt/etc Then edit the /mnt/etc/shadow

Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390 (or s390x) on Z9-BC?

2008-04-14 Thread Kelly F. Hickel
Hmm, no responses? -- Kelly F. Hickel Senior Product Architect MQSoftware, Inc. 952-345-8677 Office 952-345-8721 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mqsoftware.com SEE BUSINESS WORK > -Original Message- > From: Kelly F. Hickel > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:18 AM > To: Kelly F. Hickel; 'Lin

Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390 (or s390x) on Z9-BC?

2008-04-14 Thread David Boyes
> We aren't running VM, You really should fix that. But, anyway. 8-) > > > > I could repair it, but when I use ht e0.0.0E200,0.0.E201,0.0.E202 > > addr > > > > for the qeth device (blank line for the portname, but I've also > > tried > > > > CHIP00), it fails to come up with the messages:

Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390 (or s390x) on Z9-BC?

2008-04-14 Thread Kelly F. Hickel
> -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > David Boyes > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:22 AM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390 (or s390x) on Z9-BC? > > > We aren't running VM, > > You really

Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390 (or s390x) on Z9-BC?

2008-04-14 Thread Scott Rohling
Are you coupling e200 to an osa? What does 'vmcp q nic' show (or #CP Q NIC at the VM console) .. ? Scott On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Kelly F. Hickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmm, no responses? > > > -- > > Kelly F. Hickel > Senior Product Architect > MQSoftware, Inc. > 952-345-8677

Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390 (or s390x) on Z9-BC?

2008-04-14 Thread Kelly F. Hickel
Scott, We aren't running VM, e200 is the addr of an OSA adapter. -- Kelly F. Hickel Senior Product Architect MQSoftware, Inc. 952-345-8677 Office 952-345-8721 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mqsoftware.com SEE BUSINESS WORK > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAI

Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390 (or s390x) on Z9-BC?

2008-04-14 Thread David Boyes
> [Kelly F. Hickel] I was told that it didn't need it (and the prompt > itself says that it is optional). That address isn't supposed to be in > use by any other LPAR. You don't need a portname if your OSAs are at a certain microcode level or if none of the OSes sharing the OSA are z/OS (I think

Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390 (or s390x) on Z9-BC?

2008-04-14 Thread Kelly F. Hickel
> > > [Kelly F. Hickel] I was told that it didn't need it (and the prompt > > itself says that it is optional). That address isn't supposed to be > in > > use by any other LPAR. > > You don't need a portname if your OSAs are at a certain microcode level > or if none of the OSes sharing the OSA a

Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390 (or s390x) on Z9-BC?

2008-04-14 Thread McKown, John
Kelly, Does Centos support the ASCII emulator on the HMC of the z9BC? If so, then maybe you could use that as your terminal for entry. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The inform

Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390 (or s390x) on Z9-BC?

2008-04-14 Thread Kelly F. Hickel
> -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > McKown, John > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 12:10 PM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390 (or s390x) on Z9-BC? > > Kelly, > > Does Centos support the ASCII

Re: recover root password

2008-04-14 Thread Miguel Roman
Thank you all for the help. Miguel -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David K. Kelly Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:43 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: recover root password Miguel, For things like this VM is the Bomb! Just ma

Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390 (or s390x) on Z9-BC?

2008-04-14 Thread Brad Hinson
Hi Kelly, Does dmesg show any qeth-related errors during bootup? Also, do you get any errors when you perform the steps manually? i.e: echo 0.0.e200,0.0.e201,0.0.e202 > /sys/bus/ccwgroup/drivers/qeth/group echo 1 > /sys/bus/ccwgroup/drivers/qeth/0.0.e200/online Lastly, are you using the OSA i

Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390 (or s390x) on Z9-BC?

2008-04-14 Thread Kelly F. Hickel
> -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Brad Hinson > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 12:38 PM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390 (or s390x) on Z9-BC? > > Hi Kelly, > > Does dmesg show any qeth-rel

Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390 (or s390x) on Z9-BC?

2008-04-14 Thread Justin Payne
While there is no version 5 of Centos, you may or may not have luck trying to boot the Centos 4.6 installer. (along with what Brad Hinson recommended) ~Justin Kelly F. Hickel wrote: -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Monda

Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390 (or s390x) on Z9-BC?

2008-04-14 Thread Kelly F. Hickel
> > > -Original Message- > > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Brad Hinson > > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 12:38 PM > > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > > Subject: Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390 (or s390x) on Z9- > BC? > > > > Hi Kelly, > > > > Does

Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390 (or s390x) on Z9-BC?

2008-04-14 Thread Kelly F. Hickel
> -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Justin Payne > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 12:48 PM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390 (or s390x) on Z9-BC? > > While there is no version 5 of Centos, you

Re: recover root password

2008-04-14 Thread RPN01
Would it be the wrong time to suggest that, once you have the system installed, up and running, nobody should ever log in as root, except in dire or unavoidable circumstances. Once you have the system, give your system administration group sudo all privs. Then just don't log into root at all. This

Help needed adding LCS Ethernet on a z9 for z/Linux LPAR (NO VM)

2008-04-14 Thread Sam Bass
I am reposting to make sure this went out. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sam Hi, We are trying to add another OSA LCS Ethernet on our z/9 z/Linux LPAR (SLES 10 sp1) CHP F1 is defined in IODF as OSE Looking at some PDFs I see that it say that we only have to do the following:

Re: recover root password

2008-04-14 Thread Eddie Chen
The quickest way is bring down the server that you lost you password using "bootable media" procedure as if you are running on an local box. The difference is that your going to use another linux guest to do the recovery for you. "detach " the minidisk where "/" is resided on "#

Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390 (or s390x) on Z9-BC?

2008-04-14 Thread Brad Hinson
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 12:46 -0500, Kelly F. Hickel wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Brad Hinson > > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 12:38 PM > > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > > Subject: Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390

Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390 (or s390x) on Z9-BC?

2008-04-14 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:12 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brad Hinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 12:46 -0500, Kelly F. Hickel wrote: >> > -Original Message- -snip- >> Qeth: loading qeth S/390 OSA-Express driver >> Cat: /sys/devices/qeth/0.0.e200/if_name:

Re: FW: any help installing 4.4 for s390 (or s390x) on Z9-BC?

2008-04-14 Thread Kelly F. Hickel
> >>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:12 PM, in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brad Hinson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 12:46 -0500, Kelly F. Hickel wrote: > >> > -Original Message- > -snip- > >> Qeth: loading qeth S/390 OSA-Express driver > >> Cat: /sys/devices/qeth/0.

CentOS 4.4 kernel panic on boot s390x

2008-04-14 Thread Kelly F. Hickel
So, I've got this zlinux LPAR on a z9BC, and it's been running CentOS 4.4 for a year or so, and recently it failed to reboot after an IPL. It lists all the dasd, then says "Activating logical volumes" then panics with "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!". I've been able to boot f

Re: CentOS 4.4 kernel panic on boot s390x

2008-04-14 Thread Brad Hinson
When inside the rescue environment, run 'lvm'. This is an LVM "shell" with all the commands you need (pvcreate, vgscan, etc). At the very least, you can run: lvm vgscan vgchange -a y to activate the LVM. The vgscan creates the /dev nodes, so you don't need to do that manually. After you exit

Re: CentOS 4.4 kernel panic on boot s390x

2008-04-14 Thread Justin Payne
Kelly F. Hickel wrote: So, I've got this zlinux LPAR on a z9BC, and it's been running CentOS 4.4 for a year or so, and recently it failed to reboot after an IPL. It lists all the dasd, then says "Activating logical volumes" then panics with "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!".

Re: CentOS 4.4 kernel panic on boot s390x

2008-04-14 Thread Kelly F. Hickel
Brad, I don't have any of those commands. What I've done is to to a load from CDRom on the HMC and point it at a downloaded mirror of the s390x centos repo. Is there some other rescue mode that is more useful than what I have The contents of /sbin on this ramdisk are: -/bin/sh-3.00#

Re: CentOS 4.4 kernel panic on boot s390x

2008-04-14 Thread Justin Payne
Looks like I was slow on the draw. Brad++ Brad Hinson wrote: When inside the rescue environment, run 'lvm'. This is an LVM "shell" with all the commands you need (pvcreate, vgscan, etc). At the very least, you can run: lvm vgscan vgchange -a y to activate the LVM. The vgscan creates the /

Re: CentOS 4.4 kernel panic on boot s390x

2008-04-14 Thread Justin Payne
Do you see lvm in /usr/sbin? ~Justin Kelly F. Hickel wrote: Brad, I don't have any of those commands. What I've done is to to a load from CDRom on the HMC and point it at a downloaded mirror of the s390x centos repo. Is there some other rescue mode that is more useful than what I have?

Re: CentOS 4.4 kernel panic on boot s390x

2008-04-14 Thread Kelly F. Hickel
/usr only contains the lib64 directory. -- Kelly F. Hickel Senior Product Architect MQSoftware, Inc. 952-345-8677 Office 952-345-8721 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mqsoftware.com SEE BUSINESS WORK > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Justi

Re: CentOS 4.4 kernel panic on boot s390x

2008-04-14 Thread Brad Hinson
Hi Kelly, You mentioned earlier that you're using the installer image. How far into the install are you going before SSH'ing in to troubleshoot? If you go past the point of entering the location of the stage 2 environment (i.e. on the installation method screen, select FTP/HTTP/NFS, enter the se

Re: recover root password

2008-04-14 Thread John Summerfield
RPN01 wrote: Would it be the wrong time to suggest that, once you have the system installed, up and running, nobody should ever log in as root, except in dire or unavoidable circumstances. Once you have the system, give your system administration group sudo all privs. Then just don't log into ro