IBM POC is typically 30 days. z/Linux Redhat trial is 90 days.
So if you install and test z/Linux Redhat in a time period before you
begin the POC that will give you more time in your POC for other things.
I found RHEL 6.6 to be easy to install and run in an LPAR.
However I do think
On Thursday, 02/12/2015 at 09:05 EST, Donald J. dona...@4email.net
wrote:
IBM POC is typically 30 days. z/Linux Redhat trial is 90 days.
So if you install and test z/Linux Redhat in a time period before you
begin the POC that will give you more time in your POC for other things.
I found RHEL
On 2/12/2015 at 09:04 AM, Donald J. dona...@4email.net wrote:
IBM POC is typically 30 days. z/Linux Redhat trial is 90 days.
And SUSE Linux is 180 days.
Mark Post
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On 2/12/2015 at 09:18 AM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote:
IMO the distros, not IBM, should make clear how you should install their
product in different environments. They know what technology is
available.
We do, in the Deployment Guide. However, details such as dealing with
On 2/12/2015 at 02:12 AM, Alan Ackerman alan.ackerma...@gmail.com wrote:
We decided very early (2001?) that we would only run mainframe Linux under
z/VM. Seeing discussions like this certainly makes me glad we made that
decision.
There are very good reasons for having Linux run both ways.
We decided very early (2001?) that we would only run mainframe Linux under
z/VM. Seeing discussions like this certainly makes me glad we made that
decision.
I don't know if it makes a difference, but we run Red Hat Linux, to be
consistent with our midrange Linux folks.
Is either Red Hat or
Thanks, Mark! Glad to hear I'm just behind the times in this case... I
can't seem to get to the link you provided, but assume it's mentioned in
install doc. I typically have worked with RH for proof of concepts so am
behind with Suse.
Is anyone aware of a Redhat solution?
Scott Rohling
On
Ok, looks like you already have your linux installer running, but still
need access to a installation repository. I read about quite a number
of possibilities that are all network related. However, there is some
more that could be done in theory, but have requirements:
1. Use a Fibre Channel
On 2/5/2015 at 10:33 PM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote:
I find that the Linux install under z/VM on a new z has the same issue ...
you need an existing install server (not on the z) to do an install of
the DVD image or install directories. Once you have one built you can
I find that the Linux install under z/VM on a new z has the same issue ...
you need an existing install server (not on the z) to do an install of
the DVD image or install directories. Once you have one built you can
turn it into your new install server -- but until then you're stuck trying
to
On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 19:33:11 -0800
Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote:
I find that the Linux install under z/VM on a new z has the same
issue ... you need an existing install server (not on the z) to do an
install of the DVD image or install directories. Once you have one
built you
How about under z/VM?z/VM I can install from DVD on the HMC... now I
want to install (an enterprise edition of) Linux... as far as I know, I
still can't do it without networking to an external server. This is where
I'm hoping I'm just behind the times..
What I'm wanting is a way to give
On 2/6/2015 at 12:03 AM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote:
How about under z/VM?z/VM I can install from DVD on the HMC... now I
want to install (an enterprise edition of) Linux... as far as I know, I
still can't do it without networking to an external server. This is
On 2/5/2015 at 01:30 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote:
I think it's because we are very afraid of telling people what to do. I
Hah! Tell Chuckie that was a good one.
think if we had to start all over again, I would vote for exactly two ways
to install in an LPAR:
1. Boot
Looks like I was able to access the DVD from the hmc using the enable FTP
access. After various attempts of going through the installer prompts and
verifying and issuing shell cmds that I am able to see the DVD and
its contents, it finally worked. It may have been the sequence of events of
when I
On 2/4/2015 at 07:15 PM, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com wrote:
-snip-
I am continuing to try accessing the hmc
FTP server by way of enabling the access to the DVD. It doesn't seem to be
working and continue to get the no repository found. So now the challenge
is how to help the network group
On 2/5/2015 at 03:17 AM, Berthold Gunreben b...@suse.de wrote:
2. Write all the contents of the DVD to a Disk with a Linux
supported filesystem (zFCP or DASD) and use the expert mode to activate
that disk in the installer. After this, you can install from directory.
3. With zFCP, it
One other thought... Consider working with your IBM reseller. The normally
have people that can help you through things like the initial installs. And if
this is intended to be (or become) a real Proof of Concept, they can frequently
help you get a trial for z/VM to show you how much easier
On Thursday, 02/05/2015 at 12:43 EST, Mark Post mp...@suse.com wrote:
On 2/5/2015 at 03:17 AM, Berthold Gunreben b...@suse.de wrote:
3. With zFCP, it should even be possible to just dump the disk to the
Fibre Channel device and use it as installation source. Unlike the
zFCP
attached DVD
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Install of SUSE Linux on IBM z LPAR
Thank Mark for your detailed response. I have check all that and all the
network config is there and I can see the OSA and all the IP addresses.
I don't think I will be using the z/OS FTP server.
Thanks also Alan
Thank Mark for your detailed response. I have check all that and all the
network config is there and I can see the OSA and all the IP addresses.
I don't think I will be using the z/OS FTP server.
Thanks also Alan for your input. I am continuing to try accessing the hmc
FTP server by way of
On Tuesday, 02/03/2015 at 03:46 EST, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com
wrote:
So for the FTP file server I can use the hmc enable FTP access to mass
storage media giving the installer the IP address of the hmc. And giving
the lpar IP address to the hmc FTP facility (for lack of a
better
If you use a z/OS FTP server, there is a bug in 1.13 which will not allow the
FTP server to work.
A PTF is available for z/OS 2.1. For a quickie workaround I modified a sample
FTP exit to get
around the bug, but still couldn't get the FTP server method to work with z/OS.
If you have NFS
Can I open an shell if I am signed onto the hmc remotely? If so where and
how? I thought you coul only open a shell if you are locally sitting at
the hmc console PC.
On Monday, February 2, 2015, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com wrote:
The message is coming from the Linux installer.
On
I found the start shell under Expert in the installer. I will check some
network config from there.
Thanks.
On Tuesday, February 3, 2015, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com wrote:
Can I open an shell if I am signed onto the hmc remotely? If so where and
how? I thought you coul only open a shell
When I said ftping into the hmc, I meant FTP to it outside the network.
Right now the network guys are working on fixing the network connection for
the Lpar. It apparently was not done correctly.
In the meantime I issued those commands you provided for the Installer
shell. Since the network info
On 2/3/2015 at 11:54 AM, Stewart, Lee lstew...@visa.com wrote:
Installing Linux in an LPAR without VM is like installing Linux on a bare
Intel box with no DVD drive and no local disks...
No, an LPAR has local disks. Sometimes far too many of them to choose from,
which can cause its own
On Tuesday, 02/03/2015 at 10:00 EST, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com
wrote:
Can I open an shell if I am signed onto the hmc remotely? If so where
and
how? I thought you coul only open a shell if you are locally sitting at
the hmc console PC.
You cannot open a shell into the HMC, even if you
Linux on IBM z LPAR
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2015, 11:21 AM
On Tuesday, 02/03/2015 at 10:00 EST,
Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com
wrote:
Can I open an shell if I am signed onto the hmc
remotely? If so where
and
how? I thought you coul only open a shell
On Tuesday, 02/03/2015 at 11:36 EST, Ed Long rdhm...@prodigy.net wrote:
So much for easy to use.
No wonder the INTEL dudes are kicking our butts.
Consider how much easier it is to create Linux VM's under XEN or VMWARE.
It's simple to use once you know how.
If you want the HMC to be able to
Mark,
Sorry i didn't see all your responses from this message from me. I started
to go back and review some of the responses to my messages and saw some of
your responses that I missed. I will review and get back on this very
informative response from you.
For the record, I have been accessing
@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Post
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 9:46 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Install of SUSE Linux on IBM z LPAR
On 2/3/2015 at 11:30 AM, Ed Long rdhm...@prodigy.net wrote:
So much for easy to use.
No wonder the INTEL dudes are kicking our butts
On Tuesday, 02/03/2015 at 12:12 EST, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com
wrote:
As far as issuing the FTP command within the installer shell to view
contents of the hmc DVD, I guess that would only work if I enabled the
FTP
access to the hmc DVD. But since I don't have a valid client ipaddress
(in
Thanks Alan for clearing things up. My replies and responses below...next
to your response.
Thanks.
On Tuesday, February 3, 2015, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 02/03/2015 at 12:12 EST, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com
wrote:
As far as issuing the FTP command within
On Tuesday, 02/03/2015 at 01:56 EST, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com
wrote:
But no DVD drive and no USB drives. They are accessed differently.
Without the additional support that Mark referred to in one of his
first
responses, the installer cannot access the removable media on the HMC.
So
By the way. If I go the route of the network FTP server. Is there any
setting in the hmc that needs to be addressed to allow access to a network
FTP server?
Thanks
On Tuesday, February 3, 2015, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 3, 2015, Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, February 3, 2015, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
wrote:
When you the Load from removable media or FTP server recovery task,
that
media is automatically authorized to be accessed by the LPAR, and it
remains so until the LPAR is deactivated, you load another LPAR from
that
On Tuesday, February 3, 2015, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 02/03/2015 at 01:56 EST, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com
javascript:;
wrote:
But no DVD drive and no USB drives. They are accessed differently.
Without the additional support that Mark referred to in
Lets go back to the beginning, and the basics, again. Today, there is no other
option to install Linux in an LPAR than using a network installation server.
Period.
That network installation server can be any system that serves up one of the
following protocols:
- FTP
- HTTP
- NFS
- SMB
AS
The message is coming from the Linux installer.
On Monday, February 2, 2015, Mark Post mp...@suse.com wrote:
On 2/2/2015 at 02:00 PM, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com
javascript:; wrote:
So I've tried to Ping the Lpar IP from the hmc under Network Diagnostics
to
see if the lpar is
On 2/2/2015 at 02:00 PM, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com wrote:
So I've tried to Ping the Lpar IP from the hmc under Network Diagnostics to
see if the lpar is communicating at all through the hmc. But it fails. So I
wonder if the failure is because of the the network connection.
Any
On 2/2/2015 at 03:13 PM, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com wrote:
So I enabled FTP access to the hmc DVD by giving it the hmc IP address and
also the lpar IP address and they both failed when I tried the to verify
installation cd-rom/dvd
under Network Diagnostics and issued message
Insert
Ok having issues ftping into the hmc DVD. Most likely it is closed off by
the firewall. I'm having the network guys look into it and open up the
connection.
In the meantime, I have been playing around with the enable FTP access to
mass storage media in the hmc. To be clear, I understand that this
Also when I try to do a verify installation cd-rom/dvd under the Expert
in Main Menu (after having done a Load from Removable Media or Sever), it
fails with messages:
Insert Installation CD-ROM or DVD
*** No CD-ROM or DVD found.
On Monday, February 2, 2015, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com
On 2/2/2015 at 11:26 AM, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com wrote:
Also when I try to do a verify installation cd-rom/dvd under the Expert
in Main Menu (after having done a Load from Removable Media or Sever), it
fails with messages:
Insert Installation CD-ROM or DVD
*** No CD-ROM or DVD
So I enabled FTP access to the hmc DVD by giving it the hmc IP address and
also the lpar IP address and they both failed when I tried the to verify
installation cd-rom/dvd
under Network Diagnostics and issued message
Insert Installation CD-ROM or DVD
*** No CD-ROM or DVD found.
Shouldn't one of
On some HMC models, the DVD drive is used to back up the HMC configuration
info to a DVD-RAM disk. Newer models may use a USB stick for the
backup. That is why the HMC panels refer to it as a DVD-RAM drive, since
it support read and write to the DVD.
You are correct about the enable FTP
Thanks Mark and Bruce.
So I've tried to Ping the Lpar IP from the hmc under Network Diagnostics to
see if the lpar is communicating at all through the hmc. But it fails. So I
wonder if the failure is because of the the network connection.
Any thoughts?
Thanks
On Monday, February 2, 2015, Mark
These directories are there to:
/boot/
/boot/s390x/
/docu/
/suse/s390/
/suse/s390x/
/suse/setup/
Thanks
On Thursday, January 29, 2015, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you for the reply.
What file(s) will it be looking for when it asks for the directory on the
FTP server? I see
On 1/30/2015 at 03:02 PM, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Bruce and Mark:
Here is my where I am and I'll give a quick synopsis:
-snip-
12) device address read, write data channel211, 212, 213
I believe these should be 0.0.0211, 0.0.0212, and 0.0.0213. If it works
Thanks Bruce and Mark:
Here is my where I am and I'll give a quick synopsis:
On HMC
1) dvd1 of install disk loaded in hmc DVD
2) selected LPARZ and Load from Removabke Media or Server. Load successful.
3) opened Operating System Messages to view Kernel messages and prompts
4)enable FTP access to
Honestly I don't know what file it is looking for. And ftping to the hmc
invites all other problems. Let's just say it would have to involve all of
the network guys and security access guys to work together and that will
take moving a mountain to make happen at this point in time.
For the
On Friday, 01/30/2015 at 03:50 EST, Mark Post mp...@suse.com wrote:
The real determinant is if the installer is able to load the next set of
files
from the FTP server or not. What looks right to us doesn't really
matter in
that context, but it seems OK.
The thing to do is to figure out what
12) you're correct. I was abbreviating. Sorry
13) OSA could be shared but can fix that later. But will look into it.
I still get no repository found. I'm baffled and running out of options
to look at. Ugh!!!
Thanks for your responses.
On Friday, January 30, 2015, Mark Post
When you enable FTP access, you must give the IP address that will access
the media. Then you log in with the user id and password that it gives
you. The contents of the DVD are the root directory.
I just tried this on my HMC and it worked just like this.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Mark
On 1/30/2015 at 01:27 PM, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com wrote:
So if I have the FTP enabled to the hmc mass media (DVD) then would it not
be the base directory and specify / ?
I don't know. I don't know how the HMC exposes the DVD via FTP. If you can
interactively FTP to it and an ls /
So if I have the FTP enabled to the hmc mass media (DVD) then would it not
be the base directory and specify / ?
Thanks
On Friday, January 30, 2015, Mark Post mp...@suse.com wrote:
On 1/29/2015 at 05:11 PM, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com
javascript:; wrote:
What file(s) will it be looking
On 1/30/2015 at 05:32 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote:
On Friday, 01/30/2015 at 03:50 EST, Mark Post mp...@suse.com wrote:
The real determinant is if the installer is able to load the next set of
files
from the FTP server or not. What looks right to us doesn't really
matter
On 1/30/2015 at 06:42 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote:
That's not what I meant. I meant for Steve to manually FTP into the FTP
server, cd to (whatever directory) and try to get (whatever file is
failing). He will be able to see any FTP errors, being more revealing
that No
On 1/30/2015 at 05:52 PM, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com wrote:
Honestly I don't know what file it is looking for.
As I mentioned in my reply to Alan, I know which files are needed. I'm partly
responsible for the installer.
And ftping to the hmc
invites all other problems. Let's just say
On 1/30/2015 at 06:57 PM, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks. But I don't understand how ftping into the FTP server is going to
tell me what file to get. I don't even know what file is failing for that
matter if that is the issue.
You don't need any particular file. Just the
Thanks that I understand.
On Friday, January 30, 2015, Mark Post mp...@suse.com wrote:
On 1/30/2015 at 06:57 PM, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com
javascript:; wrote:
Thanks. But I don't understand how ftping into the FTP server is going
to
tell me what file to get. I don't even know
Thanks. But I don't understand how ftping into the FTP server is going to
tell me what file to get. I don't even know what file is failing for that
matter if that is the issue.
On Friday, January 30, 2015, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote:
On Friday, 01/30/2015 at 06:34 EST, Mark
On Friday, 01/30/2015 at 06:34 EST, Mark Post mp...@suse.com wrote:
I already know what files the installer is looking for. I trust Bruce's
answer
that the top-level directory of the DVD is exposed as / by the HMC FTP
server. So, / is the correct answer for the path to the repository.
That
So after having setup the network configuration during the install prompts,
it asked me to enter the FTP server IP address and I gave it the IP address
of the hmc. Note, I have enabled FTP access to mass storage media.
So now it's asking me for the directory on the server. Do I just hit enter
Thank you for the reply.
What file(s) will it be looking for when it asks for the directory on the
FTP server? I see these on dvd1:
/media.2/
/suse/
/suse/nosrc
/suse/setup
/suse/src
Any of those work?
By the way, I just hit enter earlier when asked for the directory and it
took a while (I'm
On 1/29/2015 at 04:18 PM, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com wrote:
So after having setup the network configuration during the install prompts,
it asked me to enter the FTP server IP address and I gave it the IP address
of the hmc. Note, I have enabled FTP access to mass storage media.
So now
On 1/28/2015 at 04:18 PM, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I am installing SUSE 11.3 on an z LPAR (not under zVM). A full ISO image
of the SUSE Linux for zSeries was downloaded (2 dvd's).
The dvd is loaded in the HMC cdrom and perform the IPL - Load from
Removable Media or
Hello,
I am installing SUSE 11.3 on an z LPAR (not under zVM). A full ISO image
of the SUSE Linux for zSeries was downloaded (2 dvd's).
The dvd is loaded in the HMC cdrom and perform the IPL - Load from
Removable Media or Server. That works and is loaded successfully and in
the Operating
In the HMC, under Console Actions, there is a function to Enable FTP
access to Removable Mass Storage. Can I use this facility to perform this
install?
Any assistance would be appreciated.
Kind Regards.
S.
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Mark Post mp...@suse.com wrote:
On 1/28/2015 at
On 1/28/2015 at 07:04 PM, Steve P steve.lin...@gmail.com wrote:
In the HMC, under Console Actions, there is a function to Enable FTP
access to Removable Mass Storage. Can I use this facility to perform this
install?
Possibly. The LPAR in question needs to be able to access the FTP ports at
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