[LUTE] Re: (LUTE) Ownership

2005-09-08 Thread Arto Wikla
6-course lute, 63cm:1x1+5x2 7-course soprano lute, 44cm:1x1+6x2 8-course lute, 62.2cm:1x1+7x2 10-course lute, 61.5cm:1x1+9x2 archlute, 67cm:1x1+5x2/100cm:8x1 French theorbo, 76cm:8x1/140cm:6x1 chitarrone (overo tiorba), 86.7cm:7x1/158.7cm:8x1 chitarrino, 53.5cm:1x1+3x2 8 tarantulas, each has 8

[LUTE] Re: Re: who are lutenetters?

2005-09-07 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all, on Wednesday 07 September 2005 14:39, Roman Turovsky wrote: There are many lutenetters who joined the list a long time after we spilled our beans about who we are. Anyone new interested in adding to Arto's collection??? And what is the best way to conduct this? RT Just send me

[LUTE] Re: Beethoven influences

2005-09-06 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Roman, no more Beethoven in the lutelist, please. I do know you admire the commonly established great composer heroes as much, or even more, as the popular music history books do - and disrespect the ones that are not mentioned in those books. But please, please, save us from your final

[LUTE] Re: Ophee - his views

2005-09-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists Howard wrote: But the forum is no less open and no more censored than it was before. The only difference is that one more person is now on the list of those excluded from posting. And Göran replied: I don't understand, what kind of legal logic or lingo you refer to for

[LUTE] Re: to Matanya Ophee

2005-08-27 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, Stuart LeBlanc wrote: As someone else mentioned, a simple solution to inflammatory messages is to use the delete key or a filter. Though I've been deleting MO sight unseen, I would prefer to remain able to decide for myself. Dredging through MO or even

[LUTE] Werner Icking Music Archive

2005-08-23 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists and such, just by accident I happened to find my virtual way to the Werner Icking Music Archive pages. And there seems to be HUGE amount of well edited modern editions of music, also lots of early music. And they say: The archive contains free sheet music, free for

[LUTE] Re: V. Galilei

2005-08-18 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Sean, I'm not sure I've seen references below to the earlier edition of Il Fronimo (I'm sorry I don't know the publ date --my HMBrown resides at the library ;^). It has different musical examples, eg, the Ancor che col partire and its fantasy aren't in the 1584 ed. Are there other

[LUTE] Re: RE: AW: Re: V. Galilei

2005-08-17 Thread Arto Wikla
On Wednesday 17 August 2005 15:43, Francesco Tribioli wrote: Oh, no... That is my tablature editor program. There is a whole scan of Il Fronimo in PDF or JPEG somewhere but I don't remember where... With Google I found the link in LSA page http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/associated/Galilei/

[LUTE] Brescianello and Gallichon

2005-08-15 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists and lute scholars, my quest concerning the gallichon and music the by Brescianello to the collected wisdom of the list was (and will be?) a real success! Thank you, everyone! We really know much more of the subject now. And the idea of playing/trying that music by a normal, at

[LUTE] Re: Tempo and divisions

2005-08-14 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Stewart and all On Sat, 13 Aug 2005, Stewart McCoy wrote: for music to speed up over the years, as to slow down. However, the fact is that the tempo of musical genres in the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries tended to slow down. I gave the saraband and galliard as examples. The same thing

[LUTE] Brescianello and Gallichon

2005-08-12 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, there is music for gallichon by Brescianello Oeuvres pour Gallichon (http://luth-librairie.ifrance.com/brescianello.pdf) that Richard Civiol has edited and gives to us all in his wonderful pages http://luth-librairie.ifrance.com/ is quite interesting, indeed. And big thanks to

[LUTE] Re: Brescianello and Gallichon

2005-08-12 Thread Arto Wikla
Thanks to everyone for the info! Especially important source was Pietro Prosser's article in Marincola's lutebot5: http://www.marincola.com/lutebot5.txt One question more: What is/are the source(s) of Richard Civiol's edition of the Oeuvres pour Gallichon by Brescianello. A printed book or

[LUTE] Re: Brescianello and Gallichon

2005-08-12 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Roman others On Friday 12 August 2005 15:15, Roman Turovsky wrote: Arto, not everyone shares your enthusiasm about Brescianello's mandora music, which was even (mis)committed to recording at least once, by Terrel Stone. I personally don't see much in Brescianello's mandora music at all

[LUTE] Re: Lute sighting.

2005-08-12 Thread Arto Wikla
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005, Herbert Ward wrote: I went to Google, and typed string frequency tension density, expecting academic pages, and encyclopedia articles. Lo and behold, the #1 entry was Arto's string calculator. :-) Arto To get on or off this list see list information at

Re: OT: Mozart for guitar

2005-08-03 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi all, on Wednesday 03 August 2005 15:08, Mayes, Joseph wrote: I thought we had moved on past the guitar-bashing stage. Roman doesn't like Giuliani (I wonder who will be discussing Roman after he's been dead for 150 years) Roman just forgets the expression in my humble opinion in his

The order of basses! (was:Double frets)

2005-06-20 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi all, it seems that the pics are still online. www.jsbach.mynetcologne.de/ambassadors.html In the other painting in that page (Holbein, Berlin) there is something quite intreresting, too, http://www.jsbach.mynetcologne.de/ambassadors-Seiten/Bild8.html The high octave of the 6th string

Re: Dedillo

2005-06-14 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all, just a small addition to the talk of dedillo: A. Lawrence-King uses every now and then the dedillo in playing the harp. The effect - soundwise and also show-wise (is there such a word?) - is very good! Harpists on the lute list, is that common in harp playing? Arto To get on

Re: Opium-smoking vocal composers ?

2005-06-09 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi all I did some Googling and found the recording I told about - well actually a 2-CD version of the old 3-LP recording. The page I found is: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B02SSB/102-5627750-3067359?v=glance#product-details and the recording is The Art of Courtly Love

Re: Opium-smoking vocal composers ? [was:Judentanz Neusidler etc.]

2005-06-08 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Göran On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, G.R. Crona wrote: why haven't we heard about this before? It sounds like a bloody good story like a writer would use: A community of opium- or hemp-smoking vocal composers, active in France in the 15th century, turning out some amazing avant-garde music. They

Re: Judentanz Neusidler etc.

2005-06-07 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi all, On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, G.R. Crona wrote: surrealistic. The music was definitely what you would today call avantgardistic, although still (barely) inside the musical idiom or fold of the times. The text dealt with the word fumé. I always believed fumé came to Europe with the

Re: symm/asymm perfect/imperfect

2005-05-27 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Dana, On Fri, 27 May 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Bringing it back to the lute, your ear is the best tuning device. Arguable. Yes, some humans ear will be the ultimate judge, but, diffreent ears have different preferences, and, frankly, the

Re: The List!

2005-05-21 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Marion and others, sorry, I did not mean to insult you, and not even RT! I understand the paper bag's linking to lutensts problems. And I understand also how the (in)famous S actually has something to do with lutes. In the good old days all was better... ;-) So perhaps my main message

Re: The List!

2005-05-21 Thread Arto Wikla
On Sat, 21 May 2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: Let me put it this way: I have never picked on the undeserving. RT seems to consider himself the God? Cute. Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

The List!

2005-05-20 Thread Arto Wikla
Paper bags might work also although I have not tried them. Oh how I miss the 1990's of the Lutelist! No paper bags talk, no arguments about the S - actually no S at all. Lots of wise writers. General understanding between us. Well, lots of fighting sometimes, too. But anyhow there was some

Re: cement

2005-05-19 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi all, On Thursday 19 May 2005 14:38, Mathias Rösel wrote: I lack any control of Spanish, unfortunately, but with -uela is a diminuitive ending, doesn't that suggest that vihuela is from a word like VIHA? I doubt that! The Finnish word viha is hate (noun) in English. ;-) Best wishes,

Re: interesting lute trivia

2005-05-15 Thread Arto Wikla
Etimology of FLUTE: First recorded in Provençal, as FLAUT, most likely a conflation of Lat. FLABEOLUM and Arabic LAÜT (wood or twig, or mus.instr.). So apparently Arabs used the L word for ALL musical instruments. How fitting. There is an interesting Finnish parallel. In his

Re: Antwort: Re: Galilei

2005-05-10 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Thomas, on Mon, 9 May 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: didn't Werl just add pieces? I haven't looked at this music as variations .. I, too, like the M.Galilei Well, I just was perhaps too eager to write something positive, something on topic to the List... ;-) But Michelangelo G. really

Sorry!

2005-05-06 Thread Arto Wikla
Sorry! No more politics or/and ethics by me in the List. Definitely. Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: Galilei

2005-05-06 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all, Listening to Paul Beier's recording of the Michelagnolo Galilei 1620 publication, the second track, Sonata in C-major consists of a toccata and two voltae. The first volta has a very beautiful division not found in the facsimile. Did Beier make the division himself? Is it

German baroque opera - Reinhardt Eise??

2005-05-04 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, yesterday I was listening a classical radio channel in my car radio, and I heard something very interesting: a baroque opera sung in German! The style was - let us say - something middle baroque 1680-1710? Normally you would expect that style in German being sacred. In the

Reinhard Keiser's Croesus

2005-05-04 Thread Arto Wikla
Thanks to everyone who assisted finding the composer! Yes, from Eise to Keiser, logigal... ;-) So it is Reinhard Keiser's Croesus, printed 1711! I asked also in the rec.music.early and got a link to Keiser's bio: http://www.stadt-teuchern.de/reinhard_keiser_biographie.htm How so good music

Re: Reinhard Keiser's Croesus

2005-05-04 Thread Arto Wikla
I still contunue my own message. :-) On Wednesday 04 May 2005 12:33, I wrote: So it is Reinhard Keiser's Croesus, printed 1711! I asked also in the rec.music.early and got a link to Keiser's bio: http://www.stadt-teuchern.de/reinhard_keiser_biographie.htm There are also pages by

VERY OFF TOPIC: POLITICS - don't read if you are Bush challenged...

2005-05-04 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lute gang, please forgive me the following... I just try to clear reasons of not understanding the world today. In a private mail I wrote to one of the List members the following. And please, if you dislike politics and/or moral, skip what follows!!! Here comes the quote from a private

Krull, Chiaperalli, Saucheck (Was: lost in NY)

2005-04-30 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Michael and all On Sat, 30 Apr 2005, Michael Thames wrote: I don't know if anyone else has noticed, all these multiple personalities, Felix Krull, Gian luigi Chiaperalli, Saucheck, etc. It just seems to be so today in the Net, that there are individuals, who enjoy playing games with

van den Hove: Florida, ...1601

2005-04-28 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all, I just got my copy of the Florida, Sive cantiones... by Joachim van den Hove, reprinted by The Dutch Lute Society. Very nice work! Interesting introduction, beautifully printed facsimile, beautiful book! Lots of interesting music - the vocal intabulations seem to be _quite_

Re: Nanki manuscript

2005-04-26 Thread Arto Wikla
would like also to see the new light... ;-) Best wishes, Arto Wikla To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Contemporary music in the LSA Quarterly, very nice!

2005-04-26 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, in the LSA Quarterly, , No.1, there are some nice contemporary lute compositions. It is very nice to promote also new music for lute! Many thanks to editors! And of course to the composers... :-) I like especially The Dauphin by Carver Blanchard and Le tombeau de Louis

Re: Antwort: 5,4,3

2005-04-22 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi all The last piece of Reusner's Erfreuliche Lauten-Lust (1667) is a Couranta sine quintâ, quartâ et tertiâ It doesn't use the the highest 3 courses. In which respect could they be called quinta, quarta et tertia? Or does it refer to something else? Just a wild guess: If you

Re: Antwort: 5,4,3

2005-04-22 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi Mathias So you there have quintâ, quartâ et tertiâ! se non e vero, e ben trovato, Arto ^^ Grazie! :-) But that is actually what I thought years ago, when I first time saw the piece... Arto To get on or off this list see list information at

Re: microphones

2005-04-15 Thread Arto Wikla
I have been happy with my Soundman OKM II Studio Klassik microphones. Very small, but very good. See their page http://www.soundman.de/ Arto PS I have no connection to the company... :-) To get on or off this list see list information at

Thanks Wayne!

2005-04-14 Thread Arto Wikla
I second that motion! Thanks, Wayne! Also my big and sincere thanks to Wayne for the great effort of quite a few years of running the List! And I've been here for a quite long time now ... ;-) So: Thank you Wayne!! :-) Arto To get on or off this list see list information at

Re: lute outreach -tuning..

2005-04-13 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all Ed wrote: I have wondered if anyone had ever taken a lute out in flight played for passengers! Good show, Kenneth! Well, not in aeroplane, but a couple of times in train, 10-course and theorbo. Both got good comments, and especially the theorbo aroused lots of interest... And

Some theorbo photos... ;)

2005-04-12 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi all, nothing important, ... ;-) One colleague at the University was cleaning his directories, and found some old photos, taken in 2003, of my then new Dieffopruchar theorbo: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Teorbi011203/ Isn't the instrument beautiful... :-) Arto To get on

Re: Distinguishing carbon-fiber from nylon.

2005-04-11 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Herbert, How can one tell whether a string is carbon-fiber or nylon? One possibility to do it: 1. Measure the length, diameter and weight of the string (or some cut piece of it) 2. Use my sub-calculator in http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Calcs/wwwscalc.html#P1 3. If the

Re: Distinguishing carbon-fiber from nylon.

2005-04-11 Thread Arto Wikla
I wrote: How can one tell whether a string is carbon-fiber or nylon? One possibility to do it: 1. Measure the length, diameter and weight of the string (or some cut piece of it) 2. Use my sub-calculator in http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Calcs/wwwscalc.html#P1 3. If

Re: Blind players and memory

2005-04-10 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Michael and all On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Michael Thames comments: This brings to mind another point in the debate about performing from memory or score. Ever notice how most guitarists stare at their hands while playing, while a few look into the rafters or close their eyes (drawing

re:tastini

2005-04-07 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Wolfgang, Martyn and all, on Wed, 6 Apr 2005, Wolfgang Wiehe wrote: you=B4ll find these subjects in the 1584 fronimo facsimile on page 102ff. =84tasti inaguali nel liuto nella viola and on page 106 tasti aggiunti di nuovo al liuto loro impertinentia. Many thanks Wolfgang! Martyn,

Re: 'Tastini' - lack of evidence

2005-04-05 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Martyn and all On Tuesday 05 April 2005 12:20, Martyn Hodgson wrote: So, as I understand it, the sole piece of HISTORICAL evidence is from Vincenzo Galilei's  'Fromino Dialogo' (1568,1584) translated by MacClintock (AIM 1985) as: ..Now I come to the matter of 'tastini' which lately

Re: 'Tastini' - lack of evidence

2005-04-05 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Martyn, Yes, I would be most grateful for the relevant page numbers in the original edition(s) -1568 and/or 1584. The MacClintoc translation/edition is of the 1584 version. If I interprete the listings of contents right, the talk about uneven fret placement and tastini starts in page

Re: Tuner Recommendations

2005-04-04 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Rpb, What tuners have you had experience with or would you recommend? Korg, Arion, Sabine? I kind of prefer the tuning fork, but I have also a tuning program in my mobile phone! It works in phones with Symbian operating system (Series 60). It only listens and gives the Hz, the note

Original Rags for renaissance lute in smaller file!

2005-04-04 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all, I wrote: The direct link to the jpg-file of my original handwrinting is http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Joplin.jpg Someone in the list commeted that the jpg-file is rather big and a gif would be better. Actually the jpg is 1286735 bytes Now there is also the gif

Re: Strap Buttons

2005-04-04 Thread Arto Wikla
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 00:12, Michael Thames wrote: I heard that some people use a silk ribbon tied to the pegbox. and simply sit on the other end I use this system with my 10-course lute and (quite short) archlute - the material of the strap is leather. Works well! Leaves your hands free.

Poisoning the Lute List...

2005-04-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, during the, let us say, couple of years we have had amongst us an actor, a writer, who knows everything, who is able to tell who is good or bad player, who is good or bad composer, which music is good, which is bad, how to play the baroque lute, why not to play Kapsperger, why

Theorbo in d', first impressions

2005-03-27 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, during the Easter I had time to experiment with my smaller theorbo, Stephen Barber, 76cm:8x1/140cm:6x1. I stringed and tuned the instrument a fourth higher than a normal a-theorbo: C D E F G A B c d g c' e' a d'. The tensions on shorter strings vary between 3.6-4.3 Kg's, basses

Re: Theorbo in d', first impressions

2005-03-27 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Marion, Thank you for your very interesting message. I have 8c ren lutes in G and and a 13c baroqu lute but no theorbo (yet). How many different kinds of theorbos are there and what advice would you have for me as I think about what to order? Well, at least there are the following

Re: Arto Wikla Sarmaticae Antiquae Supernovae

2005-03-25 Thread Arto Wikla
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: Don't lose your vigilance. Being too vigilant is counterproductive. There certainly are persons, who spend all their lives trying to look clever and vigilant. Let they have their fun, if they choose that. I do not join that gang. Arto To get on or

Re: Arto Wikla Sarmaticae Antiquae Supernovae

2005-03-25 Thread Arto Wikla
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: Don't lose your vigilance. Being too vigilant is counterproductive. There certainly are persons, who spend all their lives trying to look clever and vigilant. Let they have their fun, if they choose that. I do not join that gang. Arto There

Re: Arto Wikla Sarmaticae Antiquae Supernovae

2005-03-24 Thread Arto Wikla
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: The newest installment, #63 in the Sarmaticae series, is dedicated to Arto Wikla, may his bottle of Finlandia always be half-full. http://polyhymnion.org/torban/torban4.html Thank you Roman, I take that as a compliment! Arto To get on or off

Re: OT: Mar'jana Sadovska in NYC

2005-03-22 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Alain, on Tuesday 22 March 2005 22:47, Alain Veylit wrote: http://cbsr26.ucr.edu/wlkfiles/Publications/Concerto/Spagnuola.html Warning: Lots of strumming, syncopation and noise... (i.e. dance music) Thank you for very interesting new pieces! :-) What is the recommended

Re: sarmaticae antiquae novae

2005-03-21 Thread Arto Wikla
And another (#62). And another (#61). And another (#60): a new item (#59, for you perusal and delectation Quite a vielschreiber have we here, both in arranging and letting us know that he has done that... ;-) What about informing us still more detailed in the style: Now the 1st bar of

Re: Monteverdi concert

2005-03-19 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, just a small add-on, which might interest someone? The concert went well. Large audience, good feeling. And the choir and we players did well. Thanks to Andrew! Our rehearsal period was also quite interesting: Tuesday: 3 hours, the choir, Andrew just directing without harp

Re: Monteverdi concert

2005-03-19 Thread Arto Wikla
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005, Thomas Schall wrote: 8 hours of playing Monteverdi - must have been like paradise ... Yep! Actually it really was! :-) And especially when a guy like Andrew is directing the ensemble! BTW: When A. L-K directs, for some reason or another, the problem of the theorbo

Re: Monteverdi concert

2005-03-19 Thread Arto Wikla
8 hours of playing Monteverdi - must have been like paradise ... Another add-on: When we made the Poppea some years ago, the play was (nearly) uncut: sounding music lasted about 3 hours. We had 8 staged performances. 3 times 8 is 24! So that was a day and night with Monteverdi! Great, very

Monteverdi concert

2005-03-18 Thread Arto Wikla
Lawrence-King Utopia choir/ensemble violin, Minna Kangas and Maija Sinisalo organ, Annamari Pölhö theorbo, Arto Wikla (Actually there _are_ also some Finnish readers in this list... :-) Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: Hoffmann Mandora/Gallichon

2005-03-17 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: Put a horse and a donkey together, and you get an obviously intermediary hybrid, the mule. Nobody is giving birth to dragons and chimeras. This reminds me of an old story that happened to me years ago. I have told the story also here

Re: Hoffmann Mandora/Gallichon

2005-03-16 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Dr. Marion Ceruti wrote: To clarify the semantics, one can refer to the following definitions from Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary: Actually the general dictionaries are not a reliable source of definitions of special subjects as musicology or especially

Non equal contra equal temperament

2005-03-11 Thread Arto Wikla
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: So, to drive the point as far as humanly possible: Meantone is painting-by-numbers, while ET permits one to say something meaningful and original, musically speaking. It is really confusing to find a militant or fundamantalistic fighter for equal

Re: Continuo

2005-03-10 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Martyn and the List, on Thursday 10 March 2005 11:22 Martyn Hodgson wrote: I know of no evidence that the theorbo pitched 4th higher than usual was used for continuo - do you? I do not know any historical reference to a high d theorbo in continuo use. Does our collective wisdom

van den Hove's 'Florida' published!

2005-03-10 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists I heard that the Dutch Lute Society has just published 'Florida' by Joachim van den Hove (1601)! And I already ordered a copy... :-) Just go to their page: http://www.luitvereniging.nl/ All the best Arto To get on or off this list see list information at

Re: temperaments (was Continuo)

2005-03-10 Thread Arto Wikla
On Thursday 10 March 2005 16:28, Roman Turovsky wrote: On Thursday 10 March 2005 15:17, Roman Turovsky wrote: I am frankly not sure that the music that relies on MT for interest were a worthwhile endeavor. I am sure that the music that relies on MT for interest was and is a worthwhile

Re: Continuo

2005-03-09 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all, perhaps my old article Basics of the basics of lute continuo, written 11 years ago, could still be of some use to a beginning continuo player? It was written a g-lute in mind, but some points are independent of the tuning. The article can be found in my page

Re: Continuo

2005-03-08 Thread Arto Wikla
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: Also, short of having written tablature accompaniment for the d-min lute (such as you have for your lieder), is it at all common for people to read bass figures with a d-min lute? No, although some do, with historical precedent. I find the idea

Re: Continuo

2005-03-08 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all, I would like to add something to my previous comment: I plan to string and tune my smaller theorbo to d, a fourth higher than the big one, as a theorbo pour pieces. I have heard such an axe in use, and it really gives nice and different continuo! It might be very useful in

G.C. Barbetta's Pavan's in 3?

2005-03-03 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenetters Today I got my copy of Dick Hoban's Lyre edition of the music by Giulio Cesare Barbetta. (Many thanks Dick! Your work is culture!) Barbetta has composed many Pavans in 3! And often in the rhytm: dotted quarter - eight - quarter. I know there were earlier also some, very few,

Mutations. Does it matter?

2005-02-25 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all On Friday 25 February 2005 12:52, Mathias Rösel wrote: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: ... However, how many of us fluently think in terms of the gamut, mutation, etc. when we play renaissance or medieval repertoire? Do any of you out there think about and analyze this

Re: A-Lutes in renaissance italy

2005-02-19 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi all, Thomas Schall wrote: It is a great experience to have a smaller lute and many pieces which seemed impossible to play because of large stretches are now well within reach. I have choosen a 7-course variant to avoid the retuning for certain pieces in the repertoire which ask for a

RE: composers style, analysing for

2005-02-19 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all, James A Stimson wrote: These composing machines and programs seem able to copy lots of things about a composer's work, except those things that make the work worthwhile -- inspiration, individuality, diversity, unexpected charms, grace, elegance, spirit, etc. Are you really

Re: Antwort: left hand thumb to stop bass notes

2005-02-15 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all, Denys wrote: 6c lute. As I understand it from Stephen, the deep parabolic neck profile comes from both the original neck of the Dieffopruchar (which he examined in detail and produced drawings of in the early 80's) and observation of the above mentioned Holbein lute. It was in

My thumb... and lute's neck

2005-02-14 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists Dr. Marion Ceruti wrote: Maybe a musicologist will discover a manuscript that explains all this so we can stop wondering about it. Until that time, I will try to keep my left thumb out of sight of the audience when playing. Well, in an original and old (about 1990) photo

Re: FW: new pieces for lute

2005-02-07 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, Thomas wrote: .. Junge and another couple of Sonatas by D.Scarlatti also arranged for 10-course lute by Martin Junge. This are the Sonatas (in Kirkpatrick numbers) K209, K491, K11, K377, K380. Direct link would be http://www.lautenist.de/Scarlatti.pdf for the Scarlattis

Re: new pieces for lute - Zamboni

2005-02-07 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Ed, Ed Durbrow wrote: Actually Zamboni is flat and very simple music (often not much more than simple I-IV-V). Very entertaining but not comparable in any kind to the music of Weiss So what is really worth having for archlute solo? I only have Gianoncelli 1650 right now. I'm

Re: hi, re-introducing myself

2005-02-06 Thread Arto Wikla
Wellcome back Dana! And you still are also in the list Who is who in the Lutenet: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/LuteNetters/ Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

test, no need to read

2005-02-02 Thread Arto Wikla
Just testing that I am still in the list. Our mail server had some problems, and I just test, if Wayne's list automata deleted my address. Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: non-lute message

2005-01-27 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear carlos flores [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many thanks for your very interesting article! And the timing was good - the memorial day of liberating one of the most horrible concentration camps. In your list there could have been also the tendence to illegal imprisonment camps and using torture. Arto

Re: sarmaticae antiquae coactae

2005-01-27 Thread Arto Wikla
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: And please, do NOT ever refer to me as the Count of Sarmatia. But the new Queen of Ukraina (prime minister) seems to be a pretty beautiful lady... ;) Congrats... Arto To get on or off this list see list information at

Re: Re: Re: Carbon fiber strings

2005-01-26 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists i'm not talking about the beauty of the bass (whatever that means),=20 what i talk about is the fact that most of us, lute players, preffer a LONGER VIBRATING TONE. I strongly doubt that! Many, perhaps most of us(?), used some time ago the wound pyramid basses. Those modern

Re: Carbon fiber strings

2005-01-26 Thread Arto Wikla
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: For that matter carbon is NEVER Used for the bass strings anyway. Never say never! For years I have used carbon strings very successfully in my French theorbo made by S. Barber. Works very well also for the bass strings. Arto To get on or off

Re: Carbon fiber strings

2005-01-24 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Craig, Does anybody have the mass and tensile strength values for carbon fiber strings. (Saverez strings claim not to be carbon fiber so those numbers won't necessarily work.) Thanks, I use 1791 Kg/m³ for carbon (high density hydrocarbon polymer?) strings in my calculator. Seems to

Re: Shipping a Lute

2005-01-21 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi Al and all, On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, al fontana wrote: I shipied the lute yesterday. I basically wrapped the peg box and neck = in a layer of thin Bubble wrap. I folded a small piece of BW and placed it between the button on the end = of the lute and the case. Then I put 1 piece of BW under

Nylgut, just one technical remark

2005-01-16 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, I just changed Nylguts to the first 5 courses of my Barber/Berr 10 course lute, and the feel and sound are very good. Especially and also playing soft and quietly produces very beautiful sound; the useful dynamics range is wide. If somebody happens to be interested, the Kg's

Re: Happy New Year

2005-01-01 Thread Arto Wikla
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: He announced on Friday that the United States would provide 10 times its earlier $35 million offering ‹ an amount criticized as miserly for such a rich nation A newspaper wrote that this is the same amount of money that they use in six hours of

Who is who in the Lutenet, some changes

2004-12-21 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists I made some changes to my Who is who in the Lutenet page: Now there are the dates the texts wer written, and there are thumbnail photos of those, who have sent their photographs. Most of these thumbnails are clickable for seeing a larger photo.

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-17 Thread Arto Wikla
On Tuesday 14 December 2004 17:28, Roman Turovsky wrote: Hålbus Totte Mattson does pagan scandinavian folk-rock on a 13-course baroque lute, but I wouldn't think it advisable to draw a conclusion of a Lappish lutenism from this. There seems to be an old daguerrotype that propably represents

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-17 Thread Arto Wikla
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Roman Turovsky wrote: Arto, I am honored by the effort and energy you have put into your research. RT __ lappish lutenist or something like that, see http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/sautsekki.jpg There is more enlightment on the aforementioned

Re: El Maestro (Was: Vihuela,....)

2004-12-16 Thread Arto Wikla
On Wednesday 15 December 2004 23:29, Alain Veylit wrote: I added a PDF version in Freedom Tablature also. [...] Goran Crona's beautiful transcription of Luys Milan's Maestro (vihuela solo pieces only) from my site at http://cbsr26.ucr.edu/wlkfiles/ELF.html [...] Many thanks Alain! It took

El Maestro (Was: Vihuela,....)

2004-12-15 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Alain, you wrote: [...] Goran Crona's beautiful transcription of Luys Milan's Maestro (vihuela solo pieces only) from my site at http://cbsr26.ucr.edu/wlkfiles/ELF.html [...] Fine! Beautiful edition! Do you (or someone else) have a version of El Maestro translated to Italian

Very nice LSA Quarterly!

2004-12-15 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, yesterday I got my copy of the LSA Quarterly XXXIX, No. 4. It was a very nice surprise: about 70 lute arrangemants of Christmas and winter holiday pieces! It will be very useful! Many thanks to LSA, Dick Hoban and all the other arrangers, many of whom are also LuteList

Re: Beards

2004-12-13 Thread Arto Wikla
Well, I have one kind of moustache and something that in Italian is perhaps called mosca. A littlelike Bellerofonte Castaldi in this picture: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Castaldi.jpg Not so long moustache, though: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/KarikatyyriMin.gif

Re: Re: Renaissance america

2004-12-11 Thread Arto Wikla
Lutenists On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Wayne Cripps wrote: If you want neusidler, I have neusidler - a major chunk of one of his instruction books. Starts out real easy! http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/tab-serv/tab-serv.cgi?neusidler.EinNew This is just the page I was trying to find for Tim!

Re: Re: Renaissance america

2004-12-10 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Timothy On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, timothy motz wrote: Anyone know any easy (really easy) but interesting music for a beginner? No more than two voices, open strings on the second voice? Not too many shifts? I'm still working my way through the early chapters of Damiani's tutor but it's

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