RE: tracking down mavericks or yosemite?

2017-12-06 Thread Simon Fogarty
s.com Subject: Re: tracking down mavericks or yosemite? Hi. Okay, but where would I find Mavericks? I didn't save the installer way back when. Cameron. https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&

RE: tracking down mavericks or yosemite?

2017-12-06 Thread Simon Fogarty
I believe it will go to sierra if it's the same model I have here. But personally I'd put Yosemite on it It's just something about Yosemite that I like more than sierra May be just as simple as disk utilities. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@g

Re: tracking down mavericks or yosemite?

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Re: tracking down mavericks or yosemite?

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Re: tracking down mavericks or yosemite?

2017-12-06 Thread E.T.
f;google, youtube, skype, that sort of thing. I'm replacing the hard drive with an ssd but would like opinions regarding what version of OSX to drop into her once I install the new drive. I don't use this machine a lot but like with all my technology, I like to keep up with updates. I remem

Re: tracking down mavericks or yosemite?

2017-12-06 Thread Cameron Strife
wo gigs of ram around for >> just simple stuff;google, youtube, skype, that sort of thing. >> >> I'm replacing the hard drive with an ssd but would like opinions >> regarding what version of OSX to drop into her once I install the new >> drive. >> >> I do

Re: tracking down mavericks or yosemite?

2017-12-06 Thread John Panarese
; to keep up with updates. I remember that snow lepard was fine, > lion/mountain lion were fine, Yosemite seemed fine from what I > remember... I don't remember mavericks or el capatan on this machine > so don't have an opinion either way on those two versions. > > When we come

tracking down mavericks or yosemite?

2017-12-06 Thread Cameron Strife
ion of OSX to drop into her once I install the new drive. I don't use this machine a lot but like with all my technology, I like to keep up with updates. I remember that snow lepard was fine, lion/mountain lion were fine, Yosemite seemed fine from what I remember... I don't remember mav

Re: adding a mailbox to favorites with yosemite

2016-05-14 Thread Craig Werner
Jim' I'm coming into this thread late, so this may be old territory for you. You're familiar with Alex Hall's article "Mac Mail Explained" on Applevis, right? In that article is a good step-by-step guide to adding@ mailbox to the Favorites bar. Craig On Tuesday, May 10, 2016, Jim Gatteys wrot

Re: adding a mailbox to favorites with yosemite

2016-05-10 Thread Jim Gatteys
Hi, and thanks for your email. I did try that key combination and it did not seem to make a difference but thanks for the suggestion. > On May 10, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Jenine Stanley wrote: > > Did you try VO-shift-F3 to toggle cursor tracking to off? It didn’t make much > of a difference when I

Re: adding a mailbox to favorites with yosemite

2016-05-10 Thread Jenine Stanley
Did you try VO-shift-F3 to toggle cursor tracking to off? It didn’t make much of a difference when I did this butit does supposedly solve the issue. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com > On May 10, 2016, at 9:52 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: > > Ialso tried vo-command-f5 to move and announce the

Re: adding a mailbox to favorites with yosemite

2016-05-10 Thread Jim Gatteys
Ialso tried vo-command-f5 to move and announce the position of the mouse. It does not seem to be routing the mouse when I do that command. Any ideas? > On May 10, 2016, at 8:29 AM, Jenine Stanley wrote: > > Did you try moving with the arrow keys to change the position of the mailbox > in the

Re: adding a mailbox to favorites with yosemite

2016-05-10 Thread Jenine Stanley
Did you try moving with the arrow keys to change the position of the mailbox in the favorites list? I found when doing so that if I was to the left of the In Box, it wouldn’t drop the item. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com > On May 10, 2016, at 8:20 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: > > Hi all!

adding a mailbox to favorites with yosemite

2016-05-10 Thread Jim Gatteys
Hi all! Previously I've been able to add mailboxes to the favorites bar in mac mail using the standard drag and drop commands. I just tried it again to add an additional mailbox to the favorites bar and now it says can't drop item. I was using command-comma to mark and command-period to drop.

Re: Downgrading a MacBook Air to Yosemite.

2016-04-27 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
In this case, you can downgrade because the very last MacBook Airs still first came with Yosemite. This one shipped with El Cap, but only because it was newly purchased and comes with the newest OS preinstalled; it can still run Yosemite if you want. (I do, so I understand completely. “macOS

Re: Downgrading a MacBook Air to Yosemite.

2016-04-27 Thread Stan ZA
an someone please direct me, too the correct website. I am looking for "Mavericks" or "Yosemite" or both. Stan ZA amista...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of

Re: Downgrading a MacBook Air to Yosemite.

2016-04-27 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi, Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe if the computer came with El Capitan, you can't downgrade it to Yosemite. If you can, the easiest way to do it is to create an install drive using a program called disc maker X, and wipe the drive clean and reinstall with the

Downgrading a MacBook Air to Yosemite.

2016-04-27 Thread Sadam Ahmed
Hi all, I would like to downgrade my newly purchased MacBook Air to /Yosemite as I don't much care for El Capitan. Wondering what's the easiest way of achieving this? Thanks for any suggestions. Best regards, Sadam Ahmed / -- The following information is important for all memb

Re: Silent "T" in Yosemite

2016-02-18 Thread Bill Gallik
gt; Hello Bill, > > This is a well-known bug in Yosemite. Just switch to a different voice for a > while and it should go away. It can happen with any letter, by the way. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > >> On 18 Feb 2016, at 02:07, Bill Gallik wrote: >>

Re: Silent "T" in Yosemite

2016-02-17 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Bill, This is a well-known bug in Yosemite. Just switch to a different voice for a while and it should go away. It can happen with any letter, by the way. Cheers, Anne > On 18 Feb 2016, at 02:07, Bill Gallik wrote: > > Good Evening to All on the Macvionaries List > >

Silent "T" in Yosemite

2016-02-17 Thread Bill Gallik
Good Evening to All on the Macvionaries List I’m not at all certain what changes I may have made, but when typing on my Mac Mini neither the lower nor upper case “T” is spoken. I’m certain this is a relatively recent development because I’m sure I’d have noticed it much earlier than just last

Downgrading to Yosemite

2016-02-16 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Now, *there’s* an idea! Downgrade to Yosemite. Why didn’t I think of that? Of course, running away from the problem doesn’t make it go away. If Apple won’t fix bugs, though, and if Yosemite is still supported, maybe it’s the right course of action. I mean, I have to think of my own

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-24 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Good question. IIRC most of the accessibility was coming from tooltips rather than the button labels, but I’ll give VLC another shot and see how it goes. On the other hand, VirtualBox still doesn’t work. I’ve since moved to Fusion, but VBox is definitely QT. -- You received this message beca

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-24 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! THen one could ask why vlc works like a charm? Vlc also uses qt from what i know. /A > 23 okt. 2015 kl. 18:10 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu : > > I believe this is because Parallels uses QT for the UI, and we all know the > story there. Basically if Parallels were to become more accessible—whic

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-23 Thread Scott Granados
Fine with me, I’d rather give my money to VMWare / EMC / Dell than Plesk. > On Oct 23, 2015, at 12:10 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: > > I believe this is because Parallels uses QT for the UI, and we all know the > story there. Basically if Parallels were to become more accessible—which > isn

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-23 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
I believe this is because Parallels uses QT for the UI, and we all know the story there. Basically if Parallels were to become more accessible—which isn’t much to ask, really, given that they’re a Mac-only product—then they’d have to cross over to native widgets with Cocoa. -- You received th

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-23 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
d to v m fusion what are the pros and cons, please thanks -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 05:42 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: From Yosemite to El C

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-23 Thread Scott Granados
ies@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story > > My understanding is parallels is not accessible. I have not tried this in > recent times so don’t know if it’s changed but I have ruled out parallels as > a matter of course fo

RE: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-23 Thread george b
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story My understanding is parallels is not accessible. I have not tried this in recent times so don’t know if it’s changed but I have ruled out parallels as a matter of course for accessibility reasons.

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-23 Thread Scott Granados
23, 2015 05:42 > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story > > Definitely, I love apple mail. I have outlook running in parallel on the > same machine for work and I much much prefer apple mail. Good filtering,

RE: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-23 Thread george b
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story Definitely, I love apple mail. I have outlook running in parallel on the same machine for work and I much much prefer apple mail. Good filtering, I like the conversation view, nice snap

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-23 Thread Scott Granados
Far be it from me to recommend a microsoft product, so I won’t, but outlook is a possibility. I use it on the Mc and it’s accessible. I don’t find it great but that’s me you may get more milage? Ok, I need to go shower now for pointing someone at a Microsoft product. > On Oct 22, 2015, at 3:3

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-23 Thread Scott Granados
wrote: > > Mark and others, > > What even exactly is! the difference from the standard and the classic views > anyway, if you don't mind me asking. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-23 Thread Scott Granados
s > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:49 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story > > The bugs you mentioned were solved in 10.11.1 or so my experience so far has > seemed to indicate. Definitely sa

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-23 Thread Anne Robertson
I’m using Classic view with El Capitán. I’ve got rid of the Preview pane and all my accounts are POP3. I’m not having any issues with Mail. As for sighted people preferring the modern view, my sighted husband certainly does not. However, I’m getting old and stuck in my ways, so don’t take any not

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Well, speak for yourselves. Everybody is, of course, different and has different preferences. I know that, given the choice to use classic view over the “Modern” view, I would ordinarily choose the classic view, for all the flexibility it gives me. It isn’t for everyone and I can see how the

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread Chris Gilland
#x27;Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story Perhaps I should stop using the classic view too, then. I’d resent it, but the only way of avoiding the horrible, terrible slowdowns in Mail presently seems to be not to use tha

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread Gabe Griffith
@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu >> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 12:40 PM >> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries >> Subject: Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story >&

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread David Griffith
om] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 12:40 PM > To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries > Subject: Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story > > Perhaps I should stop using the classic view too, then. I’d resent it

RE: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread M. Taylor
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 12:40 PM To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story Perhaps I should stop using the classic view too, then.

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Well visually it’s completely different, essentially like on iOS with each entire message's detail displayed in a group format with a resizable view of the content to the right, instead of displaying the message detail in a table format at the top and the message text for the selected message be

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
What aside the obvious of sluggishness is the difference in standard view, vs. classic? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:39 PM Subject: Re: From Yosemi

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Perhaps I should stop using the classic view too, then. I’d resent it, but the only way of avoiding the horrible, terrible slowdowns in Mail presently seems to be not to use that view. Deliberate sabotage so Apple can obsolete that view and further solidify the iOSification of the Mac? :) Mus

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Mark and others, What even exactly is! the difference from the standard and the classic views anyway, if you don't mind me asking. Chris. - Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" To: Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:28 PM Subject: RE: From Yosemite to El Capitan an

RE: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread M. Taylor
s.com Subject: Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story The bugs you mentioned were solved in 10.11.1 or so my experience so far has seemed to indicate. Definitely safari is working better and I never had mail issues but I don’t use the classic view. Either way, mail is f

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread Scott Granados
rookie's experience and perhaps to generate a bit of commentary > from more experienced users. > > As someone who has come up through the ranks of CP/M, MS-DOS, Windows, > and Apple iOS, I am no newcomer to the world of computers. In July, I > bought a MacBook Air, which came

From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread Craig Werner
from more experienced users. As someone who has come up through the ranks of CP/M, MS-DOS, Windows, and Apple iOS, I am no newcomer to the world of computers. In July, I bought a MacBook Air, which came with Yosemite 10.10.3, which I upgraded to 10.10.5 in early September. I love reading document

Re: Clean Install and Rol Back to Yosemite has ruined computer

2015-10-17 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Aa, so you're back up and running? Wonderful news! I'm so glad we all could contribute to helping you. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" To: Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 4:29 PM Subject: Re: Clean Install and Rol Back to Yosemite has ruin

Re: Clean Install and Rol Back to Yosemite has ruined computer

2015-10-17 Thread Brian Fischler
now things are running good on Yosemite. Thanks to all of you who offered advice and helped me out, I really do appreciate it, and why even though some times we get a lot of crap on this list I still find it very very valuable. > On Oct 17, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: >

Re: Clean Install and Rol Back to Yosemite has ruined computer

2015-10-17 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
You were quite close really, Brian. All you failed to do was repartition the internal disk. Once you’ve done that, you can gallop on with the install. See my other message for tips, assuming Yosemite. In El Capitan the Disk Utility is a somewhat different beast which we shall ignore for the

Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck

2015-10-17 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Assuming that your boot drive is the only other drive, and that you have not used File Vault or BootCamp, then power up the machine, and when you hear the chime (and *only* when you hear the chime) press and hold Option. Wait a good twenty seconds, just to be absolutely damned sure. Then press

Re: Clean Install and Rol Back to Yosemite has ruined computer

2015-10-17 Thread Brian Fischler
, and VO only works for a few seconds here and there. I would love any advice on what to do now as I am thinking I am going to have to do the clean install again as something is definitely wrong more serious then just a serious disappointing El Capitan. I have the thumb drive with Yosemite and two

Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck

2015-10-17 Thread Brian Fischler
-Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler >> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 5:01 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as

Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck

2015-10-17 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
y into the USB key. > > 6. > Now, enable VoiceOver and you're good to go. > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015

Re: Clean Install and Rol Back to Yosemite has ruined computer

2015-10-17 Thread Devin Prater
choose. > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 11:53 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Clean Install and Rol Back to Yos

RE: Clean Install and Rol Back to Yosemite has ruined computer

2015-10-17 Thread M. Taylor
o choose. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 11:53 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Clean Install and Rol Back to Yosemite has ruined computer Okay, I

Re: Clean Install and Rol Back to Yosemite has ruined computer

2015-10-16 Thread Devin Prater
AM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Brian, > > I am so sorry that your experience has been this difficult. > > To be honest, I wanted to caution you about how to install Yosemite after > having first upgraded to El Capitan. I did not, given that you were already > on your prov

RE: Clean Install and Rol Back to Yosemite has ruined computer

2015-10-16 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Brian, I am so sorry that your experience has been this difficult. To be honest, I wanted to caution you about how to install Yosemite after having first upgraded to El Capitan. I did not, given that you were already on your proverbial way, as it were. I was hoping that all would be

Clean Install and Rol Back to Yosemite has ruined computer

2015-10-16 Thread Brian Fischler
So much for a clean install fixing things. My computer is now utterly useless as VO will read for a few seconds then stop for 3 to 5 minutes then read for a few seconds and stop again making the computer a giant freaking paperweight. The funniest thing about all this is I am supposed to be at an

RE: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck

2015-10-16 Thread M. Taylor
Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 5:44 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck Wow Mark, you're lucky. I normally have to wait about 15 minutes minimum! before my USB drive boots. Or, are you talking abo

Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck

2015-10-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Brian, You're more than welcome. Glad that we all could help. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" To: Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 9:27 PM Subject: Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck Hey Chris, No my drive was not encrypted s

Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck

2015-10-16 Thread Brian Fischler
chler" > To: > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 8:50 PM > Subject: Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck > > > Ok so tried this while on the iPhone and FaceTime as I restarted the computer > and the person told me I had the options of network or reinstall OS

Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck

2015-10-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
If nothing else, have them tell you what the screen shows, and let us know. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" To: Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 8:50 PM Subject: Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck Ok so tried this while on the iPhone an

Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck

2015-10-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Oh, was your drive incrypted? That might explain why you got a password field. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" To: Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 8:32 PM Subject: Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck Ok so this is strange as I followe

Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck

2015-10-16 Thread E.T.
day, October 16, 2015 5:01 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck Chris then how do people say you can do this without sighted help? As I have read people have been doing clean installs via a bootable usb drive with VO. Thanks, On Oct

Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck

2015-10-16 Thread Brian Fischler
Ok so tried this while on the iPhone and FaceTime as I restarted the computer and the person told me I had the options of network or reinstall OS Yosemite. They were able to see me arrow over to and highlight the install OS Yosemite thumb drive then hit enter and they saw something start, so

Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck

2015-10-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
ion on this, if you don't mind. Chris. - Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" To: Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 8:05 PM Subject: RE: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck Hello Brian, I'm not Chris but, as I understand your dilemma, the problem is th

Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck

2015-10-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Because. When you boot to the USB drive which contains the installer, you then hit command+F5, and Voiceover will begin speaking. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" To: Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 8:00 PM Subject: Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemi

Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck

2015-10-16 Thread Brian Fischler
> 6. > Now, enable VoiceOver and you're good to go. > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 5:01 PM > To: macvisionaries@g

RE: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck

2015-10-16 Thread M. Taylor
Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck Chris then how do people say you can do this without sighted help? As I have read people have been doing clean installs via a bootable usb drive with VO. Thanks, > On Oct 16, 2015, at 7:57 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > I

Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck

2015-10-16 Thread Brian Fischler
-Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 4:52 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck >

RE: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck

2015-10-16 Thread M. Taylor
f Of Brian Fischler Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 4:52 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck Chris, Just wanted to make sure I have this correct. Start the computer while holding down the option key, then hit tab and enter? Is there only o

Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck

2015-10-16 Thread Brian Fischler
. > > - Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" > To: > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:52 PM > Subject: Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck > > > Chris, > > > Just wanted to make sure I have this correct. Start the computer whi

Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck

2015-10-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
al Message - From: "Brian Fischler" To: Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:52 PM Subject: Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck Chris, Just wanted to make sure I have this correct. Start the computer while holding down the option key, then hit tab and enter? Is there

Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck

2015-10-16 Thread Brian Fischler
> Don't arrow. That's your problem. You wanna hit the tab key when in the > boot menu. Tab and shift tab. Don't arrow. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" > To: > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:29 PM &

Re: Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck

2015-10-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Don't arrow. That's your problem. You wanna hit the tab key when in the boot menu. Tab and shift tab. Don't arrow. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" To: Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:29 PM Subject: Help with rolling back to Yosemit

Help with rolling back to Yosemite as I am stuck

2015-10-16 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey all, So I started my roll back to Yosemite and am stuck. I was able to erase the El Crapitan from my hard drive but do not seem to get VO running when I try and boot up with my bootable USB Install Yosemite drive. Everything I have read says you have to restart your computer and hold the

Re: Thinking of Falling Back To Yosemite

2015-10-11 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
t said, let me > assure you something with your phone. I have an AT&T space grey 128GB IPhone > 6S that I just got last Thursday as an early BD gift. I am syncing it with > my mac mini which is my audio production machine. That machine is still on > Yosemite 10.10.5, the o

Re: Thinking of Falling Back To Yosemite

2015-10-11 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
ne. That machine is still on Yosemite 10.10.5, the official build, and it is working perfectly with ITunes 12.3. So on that note, yes. You'll be fine. I'm running I O S 9, and it's fine. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" To: Cc: Sent

Re: Thinking of Falling Back To Yosemite

2015-10-11 Thread Phil Halton
Sean, I'm using iOS nine with Yosemite and experience no difficulties. Sent from my IPhone > On Oct 11, 2015, at 4:56 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: > > Hi guys. Well, I think you'll be shocked to hear this, so grab a chair > because you may faint after hearing this. Nor

Re: Thinking of Falling Back To Yosemite

2015-10-11 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Yosemite installation. Any personal files should be fine, but not preferences or other system files. 2. iTunes supports iOS 9 on Yosemite too, so no problem. El Capitan (the beta) is flaky as hell for VoiceOver users, but it’s also very fast and responsive, which is a feature I can’t do without. I’m

Thinking of Falling Back To Yosemite

2015-10-11 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
I've heard people say they had a bug similar to this in 10.11.0 so this is nothing new so don't shoot me. The point I'm trying to get across is if El Capitan is gonna kill my Mac like this, I think I'll go back to Yosemite until I hear reports that it's fixed in a later

Re: back on yosemite

2015-10-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
r 02, 2015 8:36 AM Subject: Re: back on yosemite What advantages do these pieces of software have over Apple’s built in Time Machine? Just wondering. On Oct 2, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Don't you just love imaging software? I prefer Superduper frankly over CCC, but

Re: back on yosemite

2015-10-02 Thread Jeffrey Shockley
--- From: "jeff `greene" > To: "macvisionaries" > Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 7:59 AM > Subject: back on yosemite > > >> Hi, Ok last night after my bad experience with OSX 10.11, I formatted >> my drive and re-installed Yosemite. I used my ca

Re: back on yosemite

2015-10-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
esting in one or the other, if not both. Chris. - Original Message - From: "jeff `greene" To: "macvisionaries" Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 7:59 AM Subject: back on yosemite Hi, Ok last night after my bad experience with OSX 10.11, I formatted my drive and re-i

back on yosemite

2015-10-02 Thread jeff `greene
Hi, Ok last night after my bad experience with OSX 10.11, I formatted my drive and re-installed Yosemite. I used my carbon copy cloaner drive to copy everything back to my blank drive. It all went smoothly! I'm only missing one thing, will have to redownload it. I tried going into recovery

AppleScript to hide the mail preview in Yosemite.

2015-09-19 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
Good day, I just finished a test version of an AppleScript application that appears to close the preview pane on Mail message viewers when run in the current version of Yosemite. This application requires that you permit it to access UI actions which must be done as an administrator. There

Re: Yosemite and voice commands

2015-08-17 Thread John Maliga
I've often thought that speech commands and dictation on the Mac can be > almost as good as Dragon > Apple licenses the software from Dragon. Also note that, by check the "Use advanced dictation" in the Dictation & Speech System Preference Pane, the dictation software is downloaded to your

Re: Yosemite and voice commands

2015-08-15 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Alex, Sometimes there’s speech and sometimes there isn’t. I think it depends on whether there are new messages or not. I hope I shall get feedback from him now he’s back home and having to use his Mac on his own. Cheers, Anne > On 15 Aug 2015, at 23:34, Alex Hall wrote: > > If he wan

Re: Yosemite 10.10.5 and IOS 8.4.1 released

2015-08-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I had the same issue, then tried again this morning, and the update was there. Chris. --- Visit me online: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" To: Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 4:49 PM Subject: Re: Yose

Re: Yosemite and voice commands

2015-08-15 Thread Pete Nalda
Love this! Can't wait until my mbp get back from the shop, and can go explore. I personally *love* the voice interaction my iPhone gives me. :) Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter: @lpnalda

Re: Yosemite and voice commands

2015-08-15 Thread Alex Hall
If he wants to open Mail, then compose a new message, all with speech, does he get VoiceOver feedback? That is, does VO say anything when Mail launches, or the message composition window appears? I'm hoping the total lack of speech is something odd on my system. > On Aug 15, 2015, at 3:10 PM, An

Re: Yosemite 10.10.5 and IOS 8.4.1 released

2015-08-15 Thread Anne Robertson
com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 5:37 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Yosemite 10.10.5 and IOS 8.4.1 released > > I did the update to 10.4.1 yesterday and Mail went constantly busy. Having > had to force quit it, I repaired disk

Re: Yosemite and voice commands

2015-08-15 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Alex, I forgot to mention that my client is very comfortable with his iPhone, so the Trackpad Commander was also part of the mix. We set a voice command to speak selected text and there is already a voice command to select all. We certainly had no problems with VoiceOver interfering with v

RE: Yosemite 10.10.5 and IOS 8.4.1 released

2015-08-15 Thread M. Taylor
isionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 5:37 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Yosemite 10.10.5 and IOS 8.4.1 released I did the update to 10.4.1 yesterday and Mail went constantly busy. Having had to force quit it, I repaired disk p

Re: Yosemite and voice commands

2015-08-15 Thread Alex Hall
I'm glad you mentioned this. I've often thought that speech commands and dictation on the Mac can be almost as good as Dragon, but much more accessible. The problem I always run into is that VoiceOver and dictation don't play nice together. Even with headphones in, VO speech is automatically mut

Yosemite and voice commands

2015-08-15 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello listers, Those of you who do Mac training might be interested in the experience we had this week, teaching a Mac beginner with very little computer experience of any kind. Our client has problems with his hands. He can only press one key with each hand and has trouble finding his way arou

Re: Yosemite 10.10.5 and IOS 8.4.1 released

2015-08-15 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, I had no issues on any of the four Macs I updated over the last few days. Good troubleshooting though Anne. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Aug 15, 2015, at 08:23, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Phil, A combo Update will take any level of the current OS up to the latest l

Re: Yosemite 10.10.5 and IOS 8.4.1 released

2015-08-15 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Phil, A combo Update will take any level of the current OS up to the latest level. If an update done the usual way goes wrong somehow, doing the combo update can sort things out. The current one is to be found at:

Re: Yosemite 10.10.5 and IOS 8.4.1 released

2015-08-15 Thread Phil Halton
OK, I'll ask. What is the combo updater Ann? Sent from my IPhone > On Aug 15, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > > I did the update to 10.4.1 yesterday and Mail went constantly busy. Having > had to force quit it, I repaired disk permissions again (I always do that > immediately after

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