Re: [mailop] The oligopoly has won.

on Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 04:54:30PM -0700, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > These numbers are also worse than when I worked on Gmail years ago, but > it's always possible things got worse. I know I am a tiny speck, but as just another data point, I'm looking at a folder full of spam with 731

Re: [mailop] Roundcube client IPs → dovecot, postfix

on Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 07:17:43AM -0800, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: > The problem isn't 'technical', but rather political. There are > those out there that believe by including the originating IP > Address, you are exposing PPI (Private Personal Information) by > including the IP

Re: [mailop] WhatCounts/Costco silliness

on Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 09:33:15PM -0400, John R Levine via mailop wrote: > >>>List-Unsubscribe: > >>>List-Unsubscribe-Post: List-Unsubscribe=One-Click > >>> > >>>I don't know which fools to blame; The client Costco, or their ESP > >>>WhatCounts. Perhaps

Re: [mailop] AOL and Message-ID headers?

on Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 07:40:00PM +0200, Bastian Blank via mailop wrote: > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 03:34:48PM +0000, Steven Champeon via mailop wrote: > > Seems it was sent from a US Cellular phone. She just sent me another via > > the phone and it also lacks a Message-ID header.

Re: [mailop] AOL and Message-ID headers?

on Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 09:31:08PM -0400, John Levine via mailop wrote: > How does she sent her mail? Webmail? Ancient AOL PC client? > Phone? Via Samsung/Android on a US Cellular link; I've verified that it is indeed not issuing a proper Message-Id header and the Yahoo! transit isn't adding

Re: [mailop] AOL and Message-ID headers?

on Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 09:31:08PM -0400, John Levine wrote: > It appears that Steven Champeon via mailop said: > >My mom has been an AOL user for decades, and still has and uses her AOL > >address as her primary address. Lately, none of her messages have > >contained a Mes

[mailop] AOL and Message-ID headers?

My mom has been an AOL user for decades, and still has and uses her AOL address as her primary address. Lately, none of her messages have contained a Message-ID header, which we treat as brokenness here, because it's wrong and stupid and broken, so she's been having trouble emailing us. I know

Re: [mailop] Got any users in Texas? Better turn off your spam filters by Dec 2

on Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 12:36:23PM -0400, Bill Cole via mailop wrote: > Owning an operational domain name makes you a public person. A > domain name is a claim on a specific piece of the public commons of > the DNS. In many places (including the US and at least some European > countries) you can

Re: [mailop] Got any users in Texas? Better turn off your spam filters by Dec 2

on Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 11:40:22AM +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > This *is* a law that "helps protect the innocent victims". Yes, it is > sometimes poorly (or intentionally wrongly) implemented, such an abusing the > "legitimate interest" concept included in the GDPR by many advertisers

Re: [mailop] Old subject, awareness, given recent Microsoft disclosure.. blocking port 25 from dynamic/DUL networks

on Fri, Jul 09, 2021 at 09:25:57AM +0200, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote: > IMHP that's the wrong approach. The question isn't whether IP > addresses are dynamically or statically assigned, but whether it is > possible with reasonable effort to find an entity that is responsible > for SMTP

Re: [mailop] Old subject, awareness, given recent Microsoft disclosure.. blocking port 25 from dynamic/DUL networks

on Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 02:28:13PM -0700, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: > Ex. 1.186.104.104 x1 1.186.104.104.dvois.com Even better still dvois.com uses the same naming for dynamics and statics. At least they only have the couple - though they also use static.dvois.com right

Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

on Sat, May 01, 2021 at 03:18:49AM +, MRob via mailop wrote: > Can I ask what are mailop's opinions about Exim? Thanks you! I'm a dinosaur who at one point had 15K lines of custom m4 code in my sendmail setup (I removed a few thousand a few years back for various reasons), and am still

Re: [mailop] [External] sendgrid.net

on Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 12:22:43PM -0700, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: > But does anyone know these guys? Looks like they have bought or used > a bad mailing list, or they have a sign process being abused > heavily.. I don't know anyone there that I know of, but whoever they are they are

Re: [mailop] Gmail IMAP xyzzy ?

he first few days, anyway. Also, for a time around the same era, my .sig on certain lists was > Steven Champeon | It is very dark. You are > http://www.hesketh.com/schampeo/ | likely to be eaten by a grue. > http://www.jaundicedeye.com | - Zork I remember ho

Re: [mailop] [WEEKLY UPDATE] Happy Holidays Everyone!

on Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 04:46:43PM -0700, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: > * Brazil, for all the talk from CERT about pushing compliance, > Brazilian ISP's have one of the highest rates of infected PC's and > Personal computers, you need better PTR naming conventions, and more > blocking of

Re: [mailop] t-online.de refuses to remove an ip from their blacklist

on Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 09:57:58AM -0700, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: > WHO do I contact when I have problems related to a domain.. I've been creating patterns based on PTR records and associating classifications with them as an anti-spam and anti-abuse mechanism for almost eighteen

Re: [mailop] SendGrid Abuse unresponsive

on Mon, May 11, 2020 at 01:45:42PM -0400, Matt V via mailop wrote: > On 2020-05-05 11:09 p.m., Andy Smith via mailop wrote: > > I've been told by at least one Sendgrid person that they have > requested membership to the list and are awaiting administrator > approvals... Yep, apparently the folks

Re: [mailop] contact at google

I sent this to John offlist but here is a list of the IPs that are doing stupid and useless queries against one of our mirrors (couple of days stale but still potentially useful to someone): count IP 122 172.253.12.1 119 172.253.14.3 117 172.253.12.2

Re: [mailop] contact at google

on Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 11:54:17AM -0700, Brandon Long wrote: > Are you sure this isn't just the Google Public DNS servers? Why would a DNS server be querying our mirrors? > I can guarantee that Gmail/Google doesn't do external rbl queries for live > traffic[1]. There might be some dashboard

[mailop] contact at google

Are there any Google folks here? We have a few rbldnsd mirrors, hosting a custom DNSBL for Enemieslist which is not your standard reverse-octet IP-based lookup (instead, you pre-pend a PTR record or HELO to the zones before you query, and get a reply that lets you know how we've classified that

Re: [mailop] Who runs the mailspike BL and why are they blocking Yahoo?

on Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 04:02:11PM -0400, John Levine via mailop wrote: > In article <20200319185924.gb20...@dm7.infinitemho.fi> you write: > >On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 02:40:23PM -0400, John Levine via mailop wrote: > >> One of my users reported that I was rejecting mail from Yahoo, and I found >

Re: [mailop] [FEEDBACK] Approach to dealing with List Washing services, industry feedback..

on Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 09:53:24AM -0800, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > You can treat these all as spam, and as misdirected mail, they are. The > problem is, they aren't usually of a volume that matters and using them to > block the source is likely to have more false positives than not. We

[mailop] bell.ca?

Is anyone from bell.ca here who has any way to fix their DNS? They seem to have several blocks that have spaces (\032) in their PTRs, which is sort of weird. eg: 74.15.212.103:bras-base-sjerpq0524w-grc-12 -74-15-212-103.dsl.bell.ca I mean, your network your rules, but this just seems like an

Re: [mailop] Reasons to add plain text alternative to email?

on Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 01:18:23PM -0500, Rich Kulawiec via mailop wrote: > If you (generic you) can't communicate in plain text, then you can't > communicate. Nothing you have to say is worthy of an audience. https://giphy.com/media/5hHOBKJ8lw9OM/200.webp -- hesketh.com/inc. v:

Re: [mailop] Reasons to add plain text alternative to email?

on Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 06:23:41AM -0800, Ned Freed via mailop wrote: > (c) Plain text parts that are just a copy of the HTML. And, lo, just now from sharefile (copy/paste directly from mutt in 'v'): ---Attachment: text/plain (21%)

Re: [mailop] Reasons to add plain text alternative to email?

on Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 12:00:17PM -0500, Allen Kitchen via mailop wrote: > > I have considered writing something to munge the HTML portions out of > my saved emails, but considering the effort it would take and also > considering that doing this would render them less defensible as true > copies

Re: [mailop] Reasons to add plain text alternative to email?

on Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 02:26:08PM +0100, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > Dnia 9.12.2019 o godz. 12:52:31 Steven Champeon via mailop pisze: > > That's all I can see in mutt. Not even a "your mail client sucks" or > > "click on the URL to view this messag

Re: [mailop] Reasons to add plain text alternative to email?

on Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 09:50:14AM +0100, Maarten Oelering via mailop wrote: > Multipart messages with html and text alternatives are generally > considered best practice. Senders with html templates should add a > text version is the common believe. Well, the common belief is more like "what's

Re: [mailop] Can someone write me a prescription for a sane MTA? I'm allergic to Postfix.

on Fri, Dec 06, 2019 at 12:10:54AM +, Steve Holdoway via mailop wrote: > Still on sendmail... not wasting those 10's of thousands of hours! At the risk of adding to a not-even-close-to-ops-related thread, Sing it, brother! I'm still running most of the 14K lines of custom m4 sendmail

Re: [mailop] Suggestions for VPS providers in Europe?

on Tue, Dec 03, 2019 at 03:27:04PM +, Chris Woods via mailop wrote: > I'd avoid Linode, Hetzner and particularly OVH. OVH in particular appears > to be a wretched hive of scum and villainy. Tempting as they may be on > price, you'll never solve deliverability issues hosting on there. Same for

Re: [mailop] delivery problems from mimecast.com

on Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 10:15:20AM +0100, Claus Assmann via mailop wrote: > seemingly because it does not like my (self-signed) cert. We recently ran into this as well, via a longtime list member whose company decided to switch to mimecast. I just grudgingly disabled TLS altogether until I can

Re: [mailop] Junk filtering as a tool for unfair competition

I would just like to ask where I can apply to become an official Microsoft X-header analyst and/or creator. Reading these reminds me of the old days when I had Eudora and set it up so that it added an X-Because-I-Can: header well, because I could. But I do question the wisdom of adding some 5K

Re: [mailop] Do we need Spam folders?

on Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 12:58:51PM -0700, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > I used to think, when I ran my own server, that five or so spam messages a > day, what's the big deal... until I just got tired of it. It was often > more than the actual useful messages in my mailbox every time I checked.

Re: [mailop] Weird blocking by outlook.com (S3150)

on Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 08:31:24AM -0700, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: > On 2019-08-23 12:45 a.m., Benoit Panizzon via mailop wrote: > >So for privacy reasons we have decided not to register our customers > >using this ranges @ RIPE. Anyway we mostly have businesses customers in > >this

Re: [mailop] Return Path / Sender Score

on Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 06:39:07AM -0400, Rob McEwen via mailop wrote: > This "no-javascript" loophole is HUGE! We have a contact form and an evaluation request form that happen to use mostly the same markup and CGI perl script to process them. I'd say around 99% of the submissions we get from

Re: [mailop] How to identify source of email sent via Google?

on Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 06:27:37PM +, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > The doctrine seems to be that they're sufficiently on the ball that > they can handle all abuse issues internally, and thus, they hide that > information, since it could be used to, for instance, launch a DDOS > attach

Re: [mailop] Digital Ocean Sextortion Spammers..

on Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 03:48:24PM -0600, Grant Taylor via mailop wrote: > If I were to do something like that, I'd likely find out the IP > space that $HostingCompany is using and wholesale block them. I'm > confident there are ways to do this based on the Global Internet > Default Free Zone BGP

Re: [mailop] abuse.net

on Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 11:02:28AM -0500, Al Iverson wrote: > Hey, senders or receivers or spam filterers. Do you use abuse.net? Every domain for which I have patterns in Enemieslist has an associated abuse addy fetched from abuse.net, but frankly I don't do anything with them - IIRC the "nobody