[MBZ] Detroit CL finds

2011-09-28 Thread Mitch Haley
420SEL with records $1600: http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/2620080799.html Same car, different price??? http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/2610483214.html $1000 W108: http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/2582070193.html $4000 190D barn find (crackhead?)

[MBZ] OT - More Vintage Stereo

2011-09-28 Thread Dan Penoff
Saw a pair of Altec Lansing model 9s on the local CL today. Seller wants $225, will probably come down a little. Cabinets are very good, had surrounds professionally done recently. Does this sound like a good deal? Got a pair of Magnepan MG-II speaker s over in Orlando for $249. original owner

[MBZ] Cahrs fahr sayle

2011-09-28 Thread Fred Moir
Not mine, etc. http://nwct.craigslist.org/cto/2619072378.html 87 Mercedes Benz 300 sdl diesel http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/cto/2620987869.htm http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/cto/2620987869.html '84 Mercedes 300CD TurboDiesel http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/2608837655.html

[MBZ] Windshield washer fluid that doesn't affect finish

2011-09-28 Thread Gerry Archer
Wife used plain water in the WSW on the '83 240D because she said anything else removed wax. Can anyone suggest a WSW fluid that doesn't. Thanks, Gerry '83 300D '83 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] Windshield washer fluid that doesn't affect finish

2011-09-28 Thread Rich Thomas
Buy her a jug of the blue stuff and a can of wax. --R On 9/28/11 11:04 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: Wife used plain water in the WSW on the '83 240D because she said anything else removed wax. Can anyone suggest a WSW fluid that doesn't. Thanks, Gerry '83 300D '83 240D

[MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow)

2011-09-28 Thread Peter Hertzing
Hello 1983 300D. Glow Plug light was going off very quickly after ignition was turned on and hard starting on cool mornings - pulled glow plugs found 2 dead - replaced all 5. After replacement the light will not light at all and it is not glowing (which happened rarely before replacement).

Re: [MBZ] Aligning my new trunk lid.

2011-09-28 Thread Rolf
Ah you missed the part about partially tightening etc. I did that but with my hand to get it alligned as far as it got. I will try this with a towel wrapped 2x4 :D Although I am still not sure how this is going to make the trunk leading edge corner go down vertically. Maybe I need to take a

Re: [MBZ] Windshield washer fluid that doesn't affect finish

2011-09-28 Thread w123wagon
I bet Rich has cards in his wallet that say 'Rich Thomas. Problem Solver.' I never noticed the wax issue but always hated the blue streaks. Homemade recipes include various combinations of liquid detergent, rubbing alcohol, vinegar and water.

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT: Chicago

2011-09-28 Thread Randy Bennell
On 27/09/2011 6:54 PM, Mountain Man wrote: You older than me? I'm older than you, I'm sure. I moved away from Oak Park in 1970 when I started college - that is my vintage. My vintage is my biggest detraction for employment - still unemployed and not quite figuring out what civil engineering CAD

Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow)

2011-09-28 Thread andrew strasfogel
The GP relay is in a 4 x 6 black plastic box near the right hood hinge, IIRC. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.comwrote: Hello 1983 300D. Glow Plug light was going off very quickly after ignition was turned on and hard starting on cool mornings - pulled glow

Re: [MBZ] Aligning my new trunk lid.

2011-09-28 Thread Randy Bennell
Might the hinge be bent? Do you have another hinge you could try? Randy On 28/09/2011 11:12 AM, Rolf wrote: Ah you missed the part about partially tightening etc. I did that but with my hand to get it alligned as far as it got. I will try this with a towel wrapped 2x4 :D Although I am still

Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow)

2011-09-28 Thread Max Dillon
Fuse? -- Max, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow)

2011-09-28 Thread Peter Hertzing
Could be - but I don't see a fuse listed that covers it on the fuse box. The fuse or fuseable link by the power distribution box has power on both sides. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Fuse? -- Max, Charleston SC

Re: [MBZ] Aligning my new trunk lid.

2011-09-28 Thread Rolf
This is what I am thinking... There are plenty of w124's at the JY. Its odd because the old lid did not have this problem. C'est la vis. -Rolf On 09/28/2011 12:17 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Might the hinge be bent? Do you have another hinge you could try? Randy On 28/09/2011 11:12 AM, Rolf

Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow)

2011-09-28 Thread Rich Thomas
A going bad fuse might have power on both sides but won't pass the amps. CHANGE YOUR FUSE --R On 9/28/11 12:20 PM, Peter Hertzing wrote: Could be - but I don't see a fuse listed that covers it on the fuse box. The fuse or fuseable link by the power distribution box has power on both sides.

Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow)

2011-09-28 Thread Peter Hertzing
the fuse in the box on te driver side wheel well? On 9/28/11, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: A going bad fuse might have power on both sides but won't pass the amps. CHANGE YOUR FUSE --R On 9/28/11 12:20 PM, Peter Hertzing wrote: Could be - but I don't see a fuse

Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow)

2011-09-28 Thread Rich Thomas
Yeah, the big strip thing, I think it is 50A? If you have to go to the stealer it will be like $3, I think Rusty sells them for a dollar or so. That is the first thing to just change out when the glow system starts acting funky. Make sure all the wires are OK too, and the screws are clean.

Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow)

2011-09-28 Thread John Freer
When you change it out be careful...it's hot. John On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote: the fuse in the box on te driver side wheel well? On 9/28/11, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: A going bad fuse might have power on both sides

[MBZ] OOOoOOoOOoOO BAT : 1973 280SEL 4.5

2011-09-28 Thread Rolf
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=280744866559+viewitem= http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=280744866559+viewitem= * The automotive expression Survivor Car has become very popular lately and perhaps a bit overused. It does however describe

Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow)

2011-09-28 Thread Peter Hertzing
thanks for the reminder to disconnect the battery On 9/28/11, John Freer mbfo...@gmail.com wrote: When you change it out be careful...it's hot. John On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote: the fuse in the box on te driver side wheel well? On 9/28/11,

Re: [MBZ] Windshield washer fluid that doesn't affect finish

2011-09-28 Thread Gerry Archer
Thanks, Dave. That's a nice list that gives me several to try. I'll go with your favorite first since I also live where it seldom freezes (Florida). If my wife were still here she'd have a good laugh at Richs suggestion. She had a great sense of humor. Gerry '83 300D '83 240D From:

Re: [MBZ] Clutch rod update

2011-09-28 Thread Curt Raymond
I remember that, this is a factory MC that had been working just fine in my '83 240D pre-engine failure. The rod (which is now cut down) also came from the '83. Mine bled just fine, I connected the bleed fitting on the slave to the right front wheel brake bleeder. Pumped the brake a couple

Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12 PB

2011-09-28 Thread Curt Raymond
Considering the age of the laptop I think you'll be happier with a new unit rather than replacing the drive. Knowing my luck I'd replace the drive and have immediate logic board failure. Its an old computer remember, the Powerbooks were discontinued in 2005. How much RAM is in the computer?

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT: Chicago

2011-09-28 Thread Curt Raymond
Too bad you're not a broadcast engineer. Wanna become a broadcast engineer? We're looking at a big shortage, most real broadcast engineers that understand signal and transmitters and whatnot are nearing retirement. I see this at the TV stations where I go to, there are just no real TV engineers

Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow)

2011-09-28 Thread WILTON
'May be at local VW stealer for significantly less, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow)

Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12 PB

2011-09-28 Thread Allan Streib
But I don't want to spend $1,000+ on a computer just to surf the web and read email and edit documents. I'm not unhappy with the computer now, I just thought for a few $100 I might give it a bit more zip. On Wednesday, September 28, 2011 12:20 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Washer fluid?

2011-09-28 Thread RELNGSON
..Wife used plain water in the WSW on the '83 240D  because she said anything else removed wax. Can anyone suggest a WSW fluid that doesn't Any of them. Some home-mixed stuff may be different. Speaking of this, peripherally, when preparing the C300 for the annual MBCA car show

Re: [MBZ] wiring - was: Daughter's new car

2011-09-28 Thread Fmiser
Brian Toscano wrote: How common is wiring problems in the older cars? From what I've seen wiring usually lasts the life of the car in older models. In newer models its about as good as the wiring harness. I have a number of cars, the newest is '85. _Serious_ rust and mice cause wiring

Re: [MBZ] Clutch rod update

2011-09-28 Thread Fmiser
Curt Raymond wrote: You may remember some time ago when I replaced the clutch MC in my '78 240D and the pedal feel got real high and short. So yesterday I converted a new-type clutch rod to an old type by grinding the beanie off the end. Tonight I installed it and it made no difference...

Re: [MBZ] OT - More Vintage Stereo

2011-09-28 Thread Fmiser
Dan Penoff wrote: Got a pair of Magnepan MG-II speaker s over in Orlando for $249. original owner with docs and boxes. Have you fired up the Fisher with the Magnepans you already have yet? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go

Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12 PB

2011-09-28 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: But I don't want to spend $1,000+ on a computer just to surf the web and read email and edit documents. I'm not unhappy with the computer now, I just thought for a few $100 I might give it a bit more zip. I think you

Re: [MBZ] OT - More Vintage Stereo

2011-09-28 Thread Dan Penoff
Yes, I have. I was suitably impressed, however, it was a temporary setup in my Apartpit and they were more or less in the middle of the room. Not the ideal setup, but enough for me to get a good idea of how they sounded - very, very nice. Imaging was amazing, although they seemed to be very

Re: [MBZ] OT - More Vintage Stereo

2011-09-28 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sep 28, 2011 1:46 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: So now I have enough Magnepans for surround sound! I know you're kidding, but there is some pretty cool audiophile stuff being released in 5.1 these days on DVD-audio, SACD, and Blu-Ray. For example the new Dark Side of the Moon box

Re: [MBZ] Windshield washer fluid that doesn't affect finish

2011-09-28 Thread Rich Thomas
Buy yourself the same! --R On 9/28/11 2:50 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: Thanks, Dave. That's a nice list that gives me several to try. I'll go with your favorite first since I also live where it seldom freezes (Florida). If my wife were still here she'd have a good laugh at Richs suggestion.

Re: [MBZ] OT - More Vintage Stereo

2011-09-28 Thread Allan Streib
Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes: So now I have enough Magnepans for surround sound! You mean quadraphonic, need to be period-correct! -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] OT - More Vintage Stereo

2011-09-28 Thread Rich Thomas
A friend of mine in college had a quadrophonic system set up in his dorm room, with 4 Heil Air Motion Transformer speakers (large floor-standing square things about 30in tall) in each corner of the room, some sort of high-end turntable, and a big Pioneer quad amp/decoder pushing them. He

Re: [MBZ] OOOoOOoOOoOO BAT : 1973 280SEL 4.5

2011-09-28 Thread Mitch Haley
Rolf wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=280744866559+viewitem= Looks more like a W108/W109 than a 1973. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT - More Vintage Stereo

2011-09-28 Thread LWB250
Best friend in high school's dad was a prosumer audiophile, and had a quad 8-track setup in their family room.  Only quad 8-track we ever found was the Eagles, but I believe his dad had others that were less interesting genres.  I can recall listening to Victim of Love in quad when we skipped

Re: [MBZ] OT - More Vintage Stereo

2011-09-28 Thread LWB250
True. Amazingly, I have seen a number of quad receivers of various flavors on the local CL.  Nothing I would ever touch, but interesting that the stuff is still out there. Dan From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] OT - More Vintage Stereo

2011-09-28 Thread LWB250
This has been the bane of my vintage search.  I want to find a fairly high powered (+50W) receiver, but there just hasn't been anything on the market of late.  All the late model SS stuff is junk, IMHO, but there just doesn't seem to be anything even remotely old in the market that I can find

Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow)

2011-09-28 Thread Max Dillon
What Rich said, but the correct size is 80 amps, located in the box you call a distribution point for the glow plugs. Remove it (two phillips screws) and gently flex it a little; they can crystallize and crack with age. Look fine, pass a little voltage but not enough amps. -- Max,

[MBZ] How can you tell I work in a building with many doctor's offices?

2011-09-28 Thread Randy Bennell
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p294/oldsub86/lookingright.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p294/oldsub86/LookingLeft.jpg I took these with my cellphone camera as I was leaving for lunch today. Looking left we see a new Audi coupe and a Porshe Turbo. If you look at the back of the

Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow)

2011-09-28 Thread Peter Hertzing
what is the proper name? in this case wouldn't the glow light come on? it doesn't at all. Peter On 9/28/11, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: What Rich said, but the correct size is 80 amps, located in the box you call a distribution point for the glow plugs. Remove it (two

[MBZ] '78 240D continuing clutch saga

2011-09-28 Thread Curt Raymond
Tonight after work I pulled the clutch slave shim and replaced with a new one I'd gotten from Q. The shim is sort of gasket like but it has a chevron molded into one side. I don't see any obvious way it should be installed. So assuming the chevron is there to guide water away from the hole I

Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow)

2011-09-28 Thread Allan Streib
Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com writes: what is the proper name? Fusible link. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

[MBZ] Oil sample results

2011-09-28 Thread Curt Raymond
Finally got an oil sample sent in for my '84 190D 2.2l. Our buddy Larry thoughtfully included results from tests back to '06 on my '85 190D. So quick result, the oil was fine after 9,700 miles. I'd changed it anyway since it was the first fill of M1 (5w40) in this car. I'll sample this time at

Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12 PB

2011-09-28 Thread Curt Raymond
I'm hip, thats why I suggested RAM, how much RAM in it? RAM is almost always the big bang for your buck upgrade. Hard drives (other than when you're pressed for space) usually aren't. -Curt Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:30:00 -0400 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion

Re: [MBZ] Clutch rod update

2011-09-28 Thread Curt Raymond
Huh? I thought the rod I have is too long... My theory is that too long a rod would run the MC farther along than it should and aww hell I dunno, the old rod was shorter... See my other message about the shim. Looks like if I hadn't touched the slave I wouldn't be in this mess. -Curt Date:

Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow)

2011-09-28 Thread Peter Hertzing
yes. and it is on top of the relay correct On 9/28/11, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com writes: what is the proper name? Fusible link. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow)

2011-09-28 Thread Max Dillon
Pre-glow Relay. The relay has some self diagnostic circuitry; light failing to light or lighting at the wrong time or flashing all indicate a problem that requires service. When the fuse gets flaky, some times the diagnostic circuitry will discern a problem, sometimes it won't. -- Max,

Re: [MBZ] Daughter's new car

2011-09-28 Thread MG
Good idea, will also be checking the door switch just to make sure. Manfred Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:46:53 -0700 From: w123wa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Daughter's new car Still good to take an emery cloth to the contacts. I like to mix

Re: [MBZ] Daughter's new car

2011-09-28 Thread MG
Glad you mentioned that. I had that problem on an 81 SD where the wire had come apart after an earlier repair. Manfred Re: [MBZ] Daughter's new carDate: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 19:43:03 -0400 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] How can you tell I work in a building with many doctor's offices?

2011-09-28 Thread Brian Toscano
Are those plugins (for block heaters) ? On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: http://i131.photobucket.com/**albums/p294/oldsub86/**lookingright.jpghttp://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p294/oldsub86/lookingright.jpg

Re: [MBZ] OOOoOOoOOoOO BAT : 1973 280SEL 4.5

2011-09-28 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Cars produced later in 72 were titled as 73 model year... Jaime On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rolf wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?**

Re: [MBZ] Clutch rod update

2011-09-28 Thread Fmiser
Curt Raymond wrote: Huh? I thought the rod I have is too long... My theory is that too long a rod would run the MC farther along than it should and aww hell I dunno, the old rod was shorter... See my other message about the shim. Looks like if I hadn't touched the slave I wouldn't be

Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow)

2011-09-28 Thread Fmiser
Peter Hertzing wrote: There is power to the glow plug distribution box fuse on the front drivers side wheel well, but no power going out to the glow plugs. Is this an issue with the Glow Plug pre glow relay? Where is it on this car? You already found it. *smiles* The relay, the

Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12 PB

2011-09-28 Thread Allan Streib
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: I'm hip, thats why I suggested RAM, how much RAM in it? I think the 12 PB take one stick, and there's a 512MB in there now. I could replace that with a 1GB stick that would be the limit. RAM is almost always the big bang for your buck upgrade. Hard

Re: [MBZ] Daughter's new car

2011-09-28 Thread OK Don
The '78 450SLC had really brittle wiring under the hood - but that car is known for high engine compartment temps, so I wasn't surprised. Otherwise, I don't recall any wiring harness issues with my 115, 123, 124, 126 cars. The 163 is too new to count. On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Brian

Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow)

2011-09-28 Thread Dieselhead
Before you change the fuse, carefully check the wires to all the glow plugs. I find often a terminal rotates when you tighten down the nut on the glow plug, and makes contact with the head, or other metal part. Then when you turn the key on , the fuse blows, and you don't know why. Change

Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow) update

2011-09-28 Thread Peter Hertzing
When I got home from work today - I checked again and still no glow light and no power to the glow plugs. I hooked up a charger to the battery although it seemed fine I have been messing around with it for a couple days so I figured it can't hurt. Then I played with the fuse and tapped the relay

Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow) update

2011-09-28 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter Hertzing wrote: Any reason the light only comes on for a few seconds? Otherwise starts nice and smooth. The short light cycle is supposed to tell you that the current drain to the plugs is not balanced. If all the plugs are new, then either one is defective, or you have a loose

Re: [MBZ] How can you tell I work in a building with many doctor's offices?

2011-09-28 Thread Peter Hertzing
I manage a group of physicians for a small rural hospital - our parking lot doesn't look like that. My most senior doc drives the car he bought for his family when he got out of residency - a 1990 Suburban that he has now hand painted with a can of spray paint from wal-mart. over 300K. One does

Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow) update

2011-09-28 Thread Peter Hertzing
OKay - I'm sure two of the ones I removed were shot cause with a quick test they didn't glow at all. I hope none of the new ones are bad - but this is close to what it was doing before - so I have to lean towards relay. I'll check with an ampmeter tommorow. Peter On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:46

Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow) update

2011-09-28 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter Hertzing wrote: OKay - I'm sure two of the ones I removed were shot cause with a quick test they didn't glow at all. I hope none of the new ones are bad - but this is close to what it was doing before - so I have to lean towards relay. I'll check with an ampmeter tommorow. Oh, I

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT: Chicago

2011-09-28 Thread Mountain Man
Curt wrote: My Dad is also a civil engineer. He retired a couple years ago because he hated where he was working. After about 6 months of moping he got a job as a landfill manager for a trash to energy plant. Says its the best job he's ever had. Nice. I liked most of my work in civil engg

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT: Chicago

2011-09-28 Thread Mountain Man
Randy wrote: Maybe you need to come north? Thanks for that link - I could like north - you guys have less problems than most countries these days. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow) update

2011-09-28 Thread Jim Cathey
Any reason the light only comes on for a few seconds? The light is hooked to a temperature-sensitive timer. Caps in the timer can age and fail, as could, I suppose, the thermistor. You'd be diving into the GP relay to do component tests to diagnose it at that level. -- Jim