Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-31 Thread Rich Thomas
Plenty o' roadkill deer and possum and coons, no work needed to collect fresh meat on our road. I have dragged more than a few of dead deer out of my driveway and the roadside in front of my vast estate. Went out one morning to get the paper and there was a big deer in the median of the

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-31 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
WE have deer all over D.C., especially on the grounds of the VP's estate. On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Plenty o' roadkill deer and possum and coons, no work needed to collect fresh meat on our road. I have dragged more than a few

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and shoot 99% of the non citizens

2014-01-30 Thread G Mann
Your're Fired would certainly take a much more sinister meaning if that happened... Can't see that idea would gain my support... starving to death with your unfed family while looking for work is so much more humane.. Gad ! it's a cruel world... Grant... On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:23

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and shoot 99% of the non citizens

2014-01-30 Thread Larry T
Speaking of /*extremes */- I read a book about the Great Depression (the one in the late 20s and 30s) ;-) - it told of employment being so hard to find that at one of the car factories (maybe more than one) jobs were very treasured. Seems they would clean the auto bodies with gasoline to prep

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and shoot 99% of the non citizens

2014-01-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
What fact? Just because you repeat a canard it doesn't make it true. . http://blog.independent.org/2010/02/16/one-more-time-world-war-ii-did-not-bring-us-out-of-the-depression/ On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Speaking of /*extremes */- I read a book

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the non citizens

2014-01-30 Thread OK Don
Wrong - the bad apples are born with that propensity and are pushed over the edge by early abuse, bad circumstances (poverty), etc. Fear of punishment does not deter bad apples. However, capitol punishment or life with possibility of parole does remove them from the general population. On Wed,

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and shoot 99% of the non citizens

2014-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond
caused by the war probably had more than a little to do with it. -Curt Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 09:57:02 -0700 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and shoot 99%     of the non citizens

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and shoot 99% of the non citizens

2014-01-30 Thread clay
A bullet is expensive. And you would have to hunt down the unemployed. Best to allow them to find their own way. Make it so there is no money to be had if you have no viable form of employment/income. Instead of farming Grandma out keep her at home with the family. Bound to be useful

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the non citizens

2014-01-30 Thread Mountain Man
OK Don wrote: Wrong - the bad apples are born with that propensity and are pushed over the edge by early abuse, bad circumstances (poverty), etc. I hear ya. Somehow it seems that lead is a good solution, but that is not allowed. mao ___

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and shoot 99% of the non citizens

2014-01-30 Thread Mountain Man
HF wrote: Yeah perhaps we could shoot a few unemployed, they produce nothing and are a drain on the rest of society. Come visit again. I provide get away car and lead. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and shoot 99% of the non citizens

2014-01-30 Thread Mountain Man
clay wrote: Book your body for science. Gotta find that website. For years I have said that living at Chernobyl would be sublime. From what I understand things thrive there despite the high numbers of bad stuff. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens

2014-01-29 Thread Tim Crone
On Jan 28, 2014 11:03 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Last 10 elections I've voted in I wished most strongly for a choice at the ballot that said NONE OF THE ABOVE .. if none of the above got the most votes, they could never run for or hold public office again in their lifetimes..

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens

2014-01-29 Thread G Mann
With all respect for your opinion, I still believe we need to vote them off the island to take a reality show phrase. We have a potential candidate pool of some 312,000,000 citizens to choose from, why mess around. Part of the problem presently is that we the people have gone soft and allowed the

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens

2014-01-29 Thread Dieselhead
With all respect for your opinion, I still believe we need to vote them off the island to take a reality show phrase. We have a potential candidate pool of some 312,000,000 citizens to choose from, why mess around. Part of the problem presently is that we the people have gone soft and allowed

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens

2014-01-29 Thread Mountain Man
Grant wrote: Part of the problem presently is that we the people have gone soft and allowed the people we voted in to represent our interest to operate without being held responsible. Partially true. Don't forget to factor in the realty of the dumbing down of 312M people, of which, probably

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens

2014-01-29 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
There seems to be a population size at which the law of diminishing returns slowly reduces the efficiency and viability of a population as the population exceeds a certain size. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diminishing_returns Populations that exceed that size due to uncontrolled immigration

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens

2014-01-29 Thread Curt Raymond
who didn't have enough to eat. I'm not entirely sure it was her fault as much as the advisors that pretty much ran her world... -Curt Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:19:12 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens

2014-01-29 Thread Rich Thomas
as the advisors that pretty much ran her world... -Curt Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:19:12 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens Message-ID

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens

2014-01-29 Thread Dieselhead
I don't think Marie had distain for people, remember she didn't say let them eat cake she in fact said brioche which is a kind of sweet bread quite different than cake. She wasn't disdainful she was out of touch, she'd never been hungry and never had to work. She had no clue there were people

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens

2014-01-29 Thread Mountain Man
Dieselhead wrote: Except I'd argue that both are aware that there are people who don't know where the next meal will come from, but only want to use them for their own political advantage. That seems to be the gig. Imagine you are there - you don't know where the next meal will come from. Are

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the holes

2014-01-29 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik and Fay wrote: I think the Jehovahs are like that? Jaweh's Witnesses don't believe in parts mixing, so no transplants or even plasma transfusions. Another group, I think Christian Scientists, are similar in that regard. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the non citizens

2014-01-29 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
That was common practice during the 1930s; prison or the army at $20 per month. That was before soldiers had any rights. An officer could shoot an enlisted man who refused or disobeyed a direct order and there were no criminal penalties filed against the officer, but there was a hearing to

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the non citizens

2014-01-29 Thread Mountain Man
Gerry wrote: An officer could shoot an enlisted man who refused or disobeyed a direct order and there were no criminal penalties filed against the officer, but there was a hearing to determine if the shooting was justified. As inhumane as that sounds... It seems appropriat. There seems to be

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the non citizens

2014-01-29 Thread Curt Raymond
they didn't want to be there... -Curt Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 20:44:09 -0500 From: arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the     non citizens Message-ID: 52e9ae69.8000

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and shoot 99% of the non citizens

2014-01-29 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Yeah perhaps we could shoot a few unemployed, they produce nothing and are a drain on the rest of society. I am sure once word gets out that people without jobs get a bullet in the head, they'll lining up for miles at the local walmart/KFC/subway/etc Hendrik who is not unemployed On 30/01/14

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and politicians

2014-01-28 Thread Dieselhead
beyond the pale The phrase beyond the pale dates back to the 14th century, when the part of Ireland that was under English rule was delineated by a boundary made of such stakes or fences, and known as the English Pale. To travel outside of that boundary, beyond the pale, was to leave behind

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-28 Thread Dieselhead
Randy sez: I am not an economist and cannot explain how it all works, but I cannot help but wonder how much good it does to raise the minimum wage. We raise the wage and since employee costs are usually one of the biggest items on the books, the prices have to be increased. Then the employee

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-28 Thread Dieselhead
Interesting you mention Bill Gates. He has put a lot of his fortune into his philanthropic foundation (and I think plans for all of it to go there when he dies). He also promotes other rich folks doing something similar, either to his foundation or to their own to do good things. The

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-28 Thread Dieselhead
Osamacare is paying homage to Fat Teddy Kennedy. Kennedy coined the term Osama to refer to O'Bummer So, Yes, Osamacare is just another name for O'Bummercare, O'Bunglercare or what have you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-28 Thread Larry T
Yeah, I think you're right - 99.9% of the politicians are the same - they are in it for themselves IMO. I believe T Cruz and M Lee are the exceptions but these guys (meaning politicians in general) change their stripes at the drop of a hat (or dollar bill) - but I think the media is much to

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-28 Thread Dieselhead
What type of dangerous legislation would you expect these days from Congress? It seems that their incapacity might be a good thing, based on Grant's quote from Will Rogers - The most dangerous place in America is Congress in session Really - what type of legislation do we need? I posit we

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-28 Thread Dieselhead
So a funny anecdote about rich idiots. Last year Bill corralled a bunch of his rich buds and had them down here at Kiawah for a coupla days to talk about this philanthropy giveawayyourmoney thing. We have a little airport here, it was wall-to-wall with jets. This old black guy who lives up

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-28 Thread Curt Raymond
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the     people Message-ID:     CAC35L=u_gm89tnyardvlkid0zh-crk_dxh+8+xatwnnz77w...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Who among you tips hotel room maids

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-28 Thread Larry T
That's an interesting picture you paint! you mentioned the horse at 10mph - that would have seemed like you were going incredibly fast at the time! People never saw much higher speed than 10mph unless falling from a cliff until the mechanical engines were created (a little before your 100

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens

2014-01-28 Thread G Mann
'll add another line in the suggested chapter since we don't like war and bloodshed. How about no health care for people older than 65. The challenge is to live to age 65 in such a way that you have no health issues. Lose the boomers, more jobs for the unemployed youth that have education debt,

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the tips

2014-01-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Reminds me of that Aussie classic, Now you'll Think I'm Awful. Not to mention my all time favorite series - Barry McKenzie I spent 3.5 yrs. in Fiji 40 + years ago and unavoidably came into contact with a bunch of Aussies and Tassies. Since it's a relatively small country, you might know some of

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and politicians

2014-01-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Or perhaps: undereducated, opinionated rednecks, clinging o their guns and religion.. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:07 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: beyond the pale The phrase beyond the pale dates back to the 14th century, when the part of Ireland that was under English rule was

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
. -Curt Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 23:34:22 -0500 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people Message-ID: CAC35L=u_gm89tnyardvlkid0zh-crk_dxh+8+xatwnnz77w

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens

2014-01-28 Thread Mountain Man
Grant wrote: Individual choice, or states choice, who owns the individual, that individuals life and work effort? It is a question debated in each generation, isn't it? Why? Why? - because we all want more, not less. Shall we start the less-for-me political party? Does anyone want to join?

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-28 Thread Mountain Man
Andrew wrote: Who among you tips hotel room maids by leaving a fiver on the pillow as you check out? I don't do hotels. They are disgusting. This is based on reports from a person I know that works at a reputable hotel. Hotels are the best place to acquire disgusting things. mao

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-28 Thread clay
Another way to stabilize the excesses of government would be to make running for office a terminal proposition. If you run for office and win, then you will have two terms in which to play that game. At the end of your short career, you are given a low key send off. A bottle of your favored

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-28 Thread G Mann
Clay, I think you have Nailed it' ... hahahahahahahahah.. Thanks,, best and most stress relief I've had in political discussion in months.. It would completely cure the re-election problem wouldn't it.. elegant and simple... just hammer the bastards to death... how satisfying, considering

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens

2014-01-28 Thread G Mann
Last 10 elections I've voted in I wished most strongly for a choice at the ballot that said NONE OF THE ABOVE .. if none of the above got the most votes, they could never run for or hold public office again in their lifetimes.. Wouldn't that be good? On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Mountain

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the sheets

2014-01-28 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Mighta even messed up the sheets with some em. Hendrik who is 40+ On 29/01/14 07:37, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Reminds me of that Aussie classic, Now you'll Think I'm Awful. Not to mention my all time favorite series - Barry McKenzie I spent 3.5 yrs. in Fiji 40 + years ago and unavoidably

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the pennies and cents

2014-01-28 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Was that round about the currency change over? The meter in pennies and fare in cents? Hendrik who is not old enough to remember that far back, well more than two days and I'm buggered On 29/01/14 07:41, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: For everyone's benefit, Australia has a no tipping mentality,

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the oldcitizens

2014-01-28 Thread Scott Ritchey
This thread shows no sign of ending. So as not to fan the flames, I'll make just one final (for me) comment on the subject. When you find yourself in a hole, maybe it's time to stop digging. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the holes

2014-01-28 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Ahh come on now, we are solving the worlds problems, we have gone from 65 to 35 and I suppose the next logical step would be no health care, survival of the fittest. Which reminds me, aren't there some religious outfits that don't believe in medicine and such? I think the Jehovahs are like

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-28 Thread Fmiser
Andrew wrote: Who among you tips hotel room maids by leaving a fiver on the pillow as you check out? Mountain wrote: I don't do hotels. I guess that means you sleep on the ground and shower in truckstops? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens

2014-01-28 Thread Mountain Man
Grant wrote: Wouldn't that be good? That ballot initiative has my yes vote. But it ain't gonna happen. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the holes

2014-01-28 Thread Mountain Man
HF wrote: ...I suppose the next logical step would be no health care... snip who believes in modern science Yes, we eliminated ACA. Modern science is as much religion as Jehovahs. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-28 Thread Mountain Man
Philip wrote: I guess that means you sleep on the ground and shower in truckstops? Drive until dark. Find a rural church at edge of town. Drive to back and sleep in W123 or on ground. Showers are over rated. Stay calm, no overload. mao ___

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the pennies and cents

2014-01-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Cents = pennies in US jargon, mate. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Was that round about the currency change over? The meter in pennies and fare in cents? Hendrik who is not old enough to remember that far back, well more than two days and I'm

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens

2014-01-28 Thread Curt Raymond
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the     old    citizens Message-ID:     CANTuLYiE-0t51k2262D7rNpvwz=whxpn87q6z+xody2kiow...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Last 10 elections I've voted in I wished most

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens

2014-01-28 Thread Dieselhead
Last 10 elections I've voted in I wished most strongly for a choice at the ballot that said NONE OF THE ABOVE .. if none of the above got the most votes, they could never run for or hold public office again in their lifetimes.. Wouldn't that be good? Hear HEAR! Sign me up! Many times I write

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and politicians

2014-01-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
very. i was responding to Diesel head' On Jan 27, 2014 12:18 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:03:16 -0600 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Andrew wrote: Over the top; inexcusable; beyond the bounds of civilized discourse. Totally. But, that

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-27 Thread Larry T
Good point Rich - Back in the 90s the liberals managed to pass a Tax the rich' bill - following that, many boatyards closed and laid off workers - may extreme craftsmen who had to find other work. Often that talent is lost forever. The rich buy new boats - like G-650s - and all the people in

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread Larry T
re: Very little free... Agree completely. I should have mentioned all the freedoms we lose every time congress or local govt passes a law. I also think the so-called Unintended Consequences are well planned consequences... Sincerely, Larry On 1/27/2014 12:22 AM, Craig wrote: On Sun,

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread G Mann
One of my favorite quotes is of Mark Twain: The most dangerous place in America is Congress in session or was it Will Rogers? Who ever said it, nailed the problem dead on... On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: re: Very little free... Agree completely.

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Trickle down works GREAT for the ultra wealthy, for sure. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Good point Rich - Back in the 90s the liberals managed to pass a Tax the rich' bill - following that, many boatyards closed and laid off workers - may extreme

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Especially this Congress, which manages to be both ideologically extreme and totally incapable of passing any useful legislattion. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:55 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: One of my favorite quotes is of Mark Twain: The most dangerous place in America is Congress in

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread Curt Raymond
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth Message-ID:     CAC35L=vY8y+cYbJBTBAh90KVLan616dVu=fhfho5xaewtzd...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 So you are happy to fund welfare benefits for people who have a full time job, rather than require

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-27 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: but the rich must buy the new stuff so the used stuff will be around. Case in point: How often do any of US buy a NEW Mercedes? ;-) -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-27 Thread Rich Thomas
My cousin's husband and she think it works pretty well for them too. --R On 1/27/14 12:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Trickle down works GREAT for the ultra wealthy, for sure. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Good point Rich - Back in the 90s the

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-27 Thread Curt Raymond
everybody else is singing to with different words. -Curt Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:35:39 -0500 From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the     people Message-ID: 52e68adb.4080...@comcast.net Content-Type: text

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread Randy Bennell
On 27/01/2014 11:32 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: You misunderstand me, I'm suggesting we pay the slaves a higher wage which will make prices increase, then people learn to do with less junk. This requires a huge cultural shift though. I find it interesting that every time the topic of raising the

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread Rich Thomas
There was an interesting analysis in the WSJ the other day about the minimum wage, and that it really has very little effect on much of anything other than political bloviation, and generally limiting jobs for people who make minimum wage. Of course, that can't be right because it doesn't

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-27 Thread Rich Thomas
Most of the idiots with lots of money horde it by investing it in companies (stocks and bonds and such) and buy stuff, but there is a limit to how much stuff you can buy so the rest has to go somewhere that will (they hope) help them make more money (just like your 401K plan!). The

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
You beleive everything you read in the WSJ? On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: There was an interesting analysis in the WSJ the other day about the minimum wage, and that it really has very little effect on much of anything other than

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread clay
Socialist policy is a failure Article in the paper today proclaims food stamps no longer support the young and elderly. It is used by working Americans. Our faithless leader has not done as promised, but has destroyed the hopes for millions of Americans. Osamacare is getting all sorts of

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
What is Osamacare? Did you mean Obamacare and make a typo? On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:42 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Socialist policy is a failure Article in the paper today proclaims food stamps no longer support the young and elderly. It is used by working Americans. Our

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-27 Thread Frederick Moir
people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people Trickle down works GREAT for the ultra wealthy, for sure. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people Trickle down works GREAT for the ultra wealthy, for sure

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-27 Thread Frederick Moir
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people Fred, you are obviously a Socialist who doesn't listen to Limbaugh. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Trickle down economics is just

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread Rich Thomas
Some of it, but I believe *everything* in Huffington Post and Daily Kos. You know, where they present all the facts and data and stats and that kind of stuff to support their opining. --R On 1/27/14 1:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: You beleive everything you read in the WSJ? On Mon, Jan

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread clay
I would think that prior to mass entitlement pogroms, people worked their butts off or died. Or both. Labor was and expendable and expandable resource and you were productive to stay alive. Now, the populace is no longer productive, but is a consumer of the labors of others. Job growth is

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I am not a news junkie but have my own opinions, which, objectively speaking, are way superior to everyone else's. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Some of it, but I believe *everything* in Huffington Post and Daily Kos. You know,

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Well, that's a liberal position (clamping down on H1B visas). Good for you! On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:04 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I would think that prior to mass entitlement pogroms, people worked their butts off or died. Or both. Labor was and expendable and expandable

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread Craig
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 19:52:02 -0600 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: More follow up: I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive. Acts 20:35,

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread Rich Thomas
Steve certainly was, and see where that got him! --R On 1/27/14 2:12 PM, Craig wrote: The Bible doesn't condemn wealth. Consider that Abraham was a very wealthy person. Kings David and Solomon, as well as Job, were also very wealthy. ___

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Steve who? On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Steve certainly was, and see where that got him! --R On 1/27/14 2:12 PM, Craig wrote: The Bible doesn't condemn wealth. Consider that Abraham was a very wealthy person. Kings David and

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread clay
+1 Bill Gates thinks poverty will end by 2034. Local columnist thinks we can defeat homelessness. I think they are smoking a bit too much weed. What makes them believe that something that has been going on for millions of years will be eradicated by wishing it away? I am more interested in

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread Rich Thomas
Steve Job, that guy in the bible. BTW, I think this is where you need to move when you retire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lMTn4oE_X8 /There are no wars in Muriburiland./ /No social scars in Muriburiland./ /A lonesome troubadour/ /Against yuppie culture./ /Gnu is friends with tiger/

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread clay
That is part of the issue we face. You deserve to bust your butt to remain alive. If you are not willing to put forth the effort, the genetic pool should be rid of your toxins. There are enough exemplars of viable DNA in the world, we can spare a few million non workers. There were a great

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread Randy Bennell
On 27/01/2014 2:04 PM, clay wrote: That is part of the issue we face. You deserve to bust your butt to remain alive. If you are not willing to put forth the effort, the genetic pool should be rid of your toxins. There are enough exemplars of viable DNA in the world, we can spare a few

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and politicians

2014-01-27 Thread clay
beyond the pale The phrase beyond the pale dates back to the 14th century, when the part of Ireland that was under English rule was delineated by a boundary made of such stakes or fences, and known as the English Pale. To travel outside of that boundary, beyond the pale, was to leave behind all

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and politicians

2014-01-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Fascinating. I never gave it any thought. On Monday, January 27, 2014, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: beyond the pale The phrase beyond the pale dates back to the 14th century, when the part of Ireland that was under English rule was delineated by a boundary made of such stakes or fences,

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-27 Thread clay
+1 BiL was employed at a local mega yacht builder until the tax the rich thing hit. Hiring stopped at the company and work transitioned to retrofits until there was just a skeleton crew left. His degree in the shipwrights program came in handy enough that he was able to find employment in a

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread Larry T
that's because the democrats see negotiation as doing things their way. The republicans are not falling for it at this time - but we don't know what they're doing behind the scenes. In the past, the Republicans have taken the democrat suggestions and modified it a little and pushed that.

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread clay
of business, your kids will never get a summer job etc. None of that ever seems to come through though. -Curt Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 17:55:15 -0500 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-27 Thread clay
BG has an agenda he is promoting. Bill is not in it for altruistic purposes. If you look at what his foundation supports, there is a rather dystopian pogrom in place. Bill has a penchant to put his cash into getting more money coming his way. support education that sells more M$ licenses

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-27 Thread Rich Thomas
So a funny anecdote about rich idiots. Last year Bill corralled a bunch of his rich buds and had them down here at Kiawah for a coupla days to talk about this philanthropy giveawayyourmoney thing. We have a little airport here, it was wall-to-wall with jets. This old black guy who lives up

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread clay
I was hoping that the craft movement would serve as the example of where we need to be headed. I am very well aware of the inflated expectations the populace has and the willingness to accept the lowest common denominator if the price is right. If you make garbage though, you will have no

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread Mountain Man
Grant wrote: The rub comes when that giving is done by others, with the treasure or goods taken from others by force, deception, or theft... and when that giving' is done for the express purpose of gaining power... You are totally correct in saying this. Ponder giving/receiving a bit more -

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread Larry T
Yeah, Va has a system that is better than the Feds - in Va the legislature is in session for a few weeks each year. They sometimes call special sessions but they're rare. But the Fed is in session all the time except for the many vacations and days off. I believe it was Mark Twain...

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread Mountain Man
Andrew wrote: Especially this Congress, which manages to be both ideologically extreme and totally incapable of passing any useful legislattion. Andrew's job is... Speech writer for the Executive branch in DC - correct? What type of dangerous legislation would you expect these days from

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-27 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Gates is over-the-hill. He's made his pile and is just playing with it The one to watch is Elon Musk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk Gerry On 1/27/14 5:06 PM, clay wrote: BG has an agenda he is promoting. Bill is not in it for altruistic purposes. If you look at what his

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread Mountain Man
clay wrote: If we should slow down how productive industry is, we might be able to find more productive employment opportunities. Ahh... For the days of low productivity and many persons doing what one person and machines do today. Totally agree. Decreased productivity means more jobs.

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people

2014-01-27 Thread Larry T
List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people H F wrote: I personally don't think concentration of wealth to that degree is. ... Perhaps one of the differences is that we see the person that is a trillionaire whereas years ago we never knew who

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread Larry T
Well, that works for me - I certainly will never amass even a small fortune. Taking care of our bi-polar son has taken care of that! :-) Sincerely, Larry On 1/26/2014 8:52 PM, Mountain Man wrote: so that we do not amass a fortune ___

Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

2014-01-27 Thread Larry T
Very well Said!! Sincerely, Larry On 1/26/2014 9:05 PM, G Mann wrote: All good efforts in finding quotations from Bible, my thanks and respect for those who went the extra mile. Regards the quote above of Tis more blessed to give than receive . It is indeed, when that giving is done with good

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