Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-08 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Being somewhat cynical about anything the wealthy do that affects the rest of us, I see this as nothing more than an attempt to disguise an old and proven way of "paying" nations debts by devaluing currencies. If Obama or his successor simply announced that he was going to devalue the dollar,

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-08 Thread Larry Turner
thanks Grant. The financial system is so incredibly complex and very few understand even the most basic economics - especially those in government who spend so much of their time writing laws that affect our banking and financial lives. Just as bad, is the public's enormous lack of un

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-07 Thread G Mann
Larry, Sorry, at that level, every move is above my pay grade. Currently there have been a large number of high level bank officials arrested due to their attempts to manipulate the Global Currency Reset to their personal advantage via insider trading [so I am advised]. The BRIC countries have n

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-07 Thread Scott Ritchey
This may be a matter of: "don't ask the question if you can't stand the answer." > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry > Turner > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 12:26 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.co

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-07 Thread Larry Turner
Thanks for that Grant. Do you think (or have heard anything) the Federal Reserve will be chartered for another 100 years and are the politicians pushing for a audit? For an organization to control so much of what is spent and by whom, it is atrocious that there has only been 1 half hearted e

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2014-06-06 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Here is more information on the Global Currency Reset, Reserve Currencies, national asset rankings, etc. IMO it's interesting that the U.S. dollar and the Euro comprise 90% of the allocated reserves worldwide. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_currency http://www.imf.org/external/np/sta/c

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-06 Thread G Mann
I stand corrected... Basel senior moments happen, thanks for attending.. ;)​ On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > I think you mean "Basel" > > --R > > > On 6/6/14 10:47 AM, G Mann wrote: > >> Great questions. >> >> Not so great answer

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-06 Thread Rich Thomas
I think you mean "Basel" --R On 6/6/14 10:47 AM, G Mann wrote: Great questions. Not so great answers. Under Basal III agreement [by all the controlling bankers] there is to be a Global Currency Reset this summer. 198 of the 204 currencies of the world are to be revalued with each currency ba

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-06 Thread G Mann
Great questions. Not so great answers. Under Basal III agreement [by all the controlling bankers] there is to be a Global Currency Reset this summer. 198 of the 204 currencies of the world are to be revalued with each currency backed by "asset" rather than "fiat" [current federal reserve "dollars

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-06 Thread Mitch Haley
arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Domestically you may be right, but I am looking at Americas position among the nations of the world. All nations eventually decline. The problem is that we have no way of knowing when our nation will do so. Looking at the data link on my email to Scott: It ma

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-05 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
On 6/4/2014 10:58 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Gerry wrote: If you look at Americas position among the nations of the world, I don't think you can say the U.S. is unsuccessful. If we want to be seriously realistic, I think we should be saying this to each other. Yes, the U.S. is unsuccessful. Rea

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2014-06-05 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
On 6/4/2014 11:53 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: Really? G: Compared to other nations of similar size, I would put the U.S. at the top; militarily, economically, and even domestically although it doesn't seem that way to those of us who have seen our standard of living go down due to lost jobs, et

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Scott Ritchey
Really? It appears to me that Al Qaeda has accomplished their objective of repelling the US from the Middle East. China and Russia, the other big kids on the block, seem unconcerned about potential US intervention. Meanwhile, China is buying up the US (piecemeal) while Europe is blackmailed by R

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread G Mann
McCain: "I'm from the government and I'm not happy until you are not happy" Pretty much says it for me and he is my Senator. On 6/4/14, Mountain Man wrote: > Grant wrote: >> This "federal culture mindset" permeates every government agency and , >> history indicates, can not be overcome by p

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Mountain Man
Grant wrote: > This "federal culture mindset" permeates every government agency and , > history indicates, can not be overcome by peaceful means. > So... Do you think we have our heads in the sand? We say vote - which sounds peaceful. Nobody says guns - which sounds not peaceful. Nobody says revol

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Mountain Man
Gerry wrote: > If you look at Americas position among the nations > of the world, I don't think you can say the U.S. is unsuccessful. > If we want to be seriously realistic, I think we should be saying this to each other. Yes, the U.S. is unsuccessful. Really. Once we can own up to this reality

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Years ago I read a report on Navy bureaucracy that described the same problems being discussed here. The conclusion was that not much could be done about the bureaucracy but that the Navies ships and crews were not affected and remained a potent fighting force. The report was written in the 1

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2014-06-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Dan Penoff wrote: It's been my experience that there is an "old guard" of folks in government service who are truly the poster children for the public's perception of government workers. Are those the ones you see screaming in the streets during working hours, wearing purple SEIU T-Shirts,

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: There is a myth that it is hard to terminate deadbeat or fraudulent Fed employees. I once took action against a young lady who was doing Amway business from her desk on government time. I went through the agency's personnel office to prepare the evidence in compliance w

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Randy Bennell
Well, I did not mean it applies to all govt employees. A good example - my wife has an employee who is mostly of little use but the poor woman was attacked many years ago and suffered brain damage. She tries hard but has limited abilities. Most private businesses - esp small businesses - could n

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Randy Bennell
On 04/06/2014 3:31 PM, Meade Dillon wrote: Government employees do get bad reps for a reason, but in my experience the vast majority come to work each day really wanting to do work and do it well. The examples cited previously make it clear that bad employees CAN be fired, but it takes managemen

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Rich Thomas
Govt unions, patronage, and a huge bureaucracy built up around it all that would suddenly find themselves out of work. Of course your solution is the correct one, but no politician would touch it, perhaps throwing in the mix a privatization of most of the general medical services, with some of

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Scott Ritchey
Behalf Of WILTON > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 10:56 PM > To: mercedes list > Subject: [MBZ] finally & VA > > "Clerical staff, who care not a whit about the level of service they give" > reminds me: > > Because of "horror" stories I had heard about

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Dan Penoff
Is there any reason why the VA couldn't be broken up and the private sector paid to render services? At least for health care? I realize the VA is more than just medical care Dan Sent from my iPad > On Jun 4, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Meade Dillon wrote: > > Concerning the original topic (VA), h

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Dan Penoff
It's been my experience that there is an "old guard" of folks in government service who are truly the poster children for the public's perception of government workers. Having been in both private and public sectors, I don't see a whole lot of difference in the people these days. Yes, there are

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Dan Penoff
Watch yourself. There are a number of government employees here Dan Sent from my iPad > On Jun 4, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: > >> On 04/06/2014 2:19 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: >> That takes care of fraudulent employees. What about deadbeat employees? >> Gerry > The use

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Meade Dillon
Concerning the original topic (VA), here's my opinion. As Fred likes to say, "you know where the delete key is..." A good house-cleaning of the management, followed up with fair/transparent incentives for those who do an exceptional job, and I'll bet that most of the current "deadbeat" staff woul

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Meade Dillon
Government employees do get bad reps for a reason, but in my experience the vast majority come to work each day really wanting to do work and do it well. The examples cited previously make it clear that bad employees CAN be fired, but it takes management to get off their butt and do the work. -Ma

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Randy Bennell
On 04/06/2014 2:19 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: That takes care of fraudulent employees. What about deadbeat employees? Gerry The useless folks are supposed to work for the government. How could any one else afford to keep them around? ___ http://www.

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread WILTON
Two ATTABOYS! Wilton - Original Message - From: "OK Don" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] finally & VA I know that it's not the Feds, but I did hire two employees "working" for the Stat

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Greg Fiorentino
It was a wonderful way to stop problem employees before they got their feet in the door. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 11:35 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] fina

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I was the supervisor, new to the job. My deputy explained how easy it would be to get rid of Darlene if I were to simply follow the procedures in the manual. I also forced someone to quit who abused the leave policies by taking extensive LWOP (leave without pay). I wasn't too happy about that, b

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2014-06-04 Thread OK Don
That was supposed to read "fired", not hired! On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 2:24 PM, OK Don wrote: > I know that it's not the Feds, but I did hire two employees "working" for > the State of OK - one was fraudulent, the other just incompetent. Both were > political appointees, one current at the time,

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread OK Don
I know that it's not the Feds, but I did hire two employees "working" for the State of OK - one was fraudulent, the other just incompetent. Both were political appointees, one current at the time, the other a hold-over from a previous Governor. I just followed the prescribed procedure, and they wer

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
That takes care of fraudulent employees. What about deadbeat employees? Gerry On 6/4/2014 2:39 PM, WILTON wrote: ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 2:34 PM Subject: Re

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Randy Bennell
On 04/06/2014 2:05 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I see it happen with some regularity, as I am one of the investigators who gathers the evidence for the administrative and HR staff. I'm still amazed at how brazen people are when they clearly know their actions are being monitored and recorded. Dan

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Dan Penoff
I see it happen with some regularity, as I am one of the investigators who gathers the evidence for the administrative and HR staff. I'm still amazed at how brazen people are when they clearly know their actions are being monitored and recorded. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:59

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread WILTON
Or "The tough we do immediately." Wilton - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] finally & VA What is that old saying on the sign? Something like "the

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Randy Bennell
impossible. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] finally & VA Aw shucks. I didn't know that it was supposed to be impossible. On Wed, Jun 4, 2

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread WILTON
Or the Director or the Secretary. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] finally & VA You big meanie. It obviously was not her fault. It was the fault of

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread WILTON
I especially enjoy what is supposedly impossible. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] finally & VA Aw shucks. I didn't know that it was suppos

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Randy Bennell
You big meanie. It obviously was not her fault. It was the fault of her supervisor who did not make it expressly clear that her time at work was to be used for the work of the employer. Very obviously, it should have been her supervisor who fell on his sword. On 04/06/2014 1:34 PM, Andrew S

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
List" > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 2:34 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] finally & VA > > > There is a myth that it is hard to terminate deadbeat or fraudulent Fed >> employees. >> >> I once took action against a young lady who was doing Amway business from &g

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread WILTON
ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] finally & VA There is a myth that it is hard to terminate deadbeat or fraudulent Fed employees. I on

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
There is a myth that it is hard to terminate deadbeat or fraudulent Fed employees. I once took action against a young lady who was doing Amway business from her desk on government time. I went through the agency's personnel office to prepare the evidence in compliance with OPM regulations, and th

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Randy Bennell
On 04/06/2014 10:51 AM, G Mann wrote: I formulated some time ago that I work by the job for profit... all government workers work for retirement. Any act that can delay their actual work, or production of work, at minimum effort, moves them further toward their goal of retirement at full pension

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread G Mann
I formulated some time ago that I work by the job for profit... all government workers work for retirement. Any act that can delay their actual work, or production of work, at minimum effort, moves them further toward their goal of retirement at full pension benefits. The only caveat to that effor

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread WILTON
Amen. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] finally & VA My wife did a coupla months rotation at "The Manch" the VA hospital in Manchester, NH,

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Rich Thomas
My wife did a coupla months rotation at "The Manch" the VA hospital in Manchester, NH, like 20 yr ago. It was known then as a total disaster, and all the residents dreaded going there both because of the bureaucracy, conditions, tattoo/tooth ratio of the staff, and everything else plus it was

Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-04 Thread Meade Dillon
I see a common thread here, when I include my experiences with the VA. The doctor I'm assigned to is excellent. His nursing staff superb. All other clerical types seem to think their job is to slow-roll, filter, obstruct. Things that in other clinics takes minutes, they take days at our local V

[MBZ] finally & VA

2014-06-03 Thread WILTON
"Clerical staff, who care not a whit about the level of service they give" reminds me: Because of "horror" stories I had heard about getting "the run-around" and long waiting times, I had never used VA medical care at all until about a year ago, when I received a letter from my neurologist at D