ruhroh...
--R
On 4/8/13 8:05 PM, WILTON wrote:
Mr. and Mrs. Banker were amazed by my magic stick.
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An auto electric shop that repairs/rebuilds starters can get them.
If you find a source, you want a Bosch.
I'm working on the warranty thing right now. Oddly enough, I got this
starter from Gary. I'm going to get a big dose of his customer service
right now.
And, as a point of data for everyo
ick.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "Dan Penoff"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.
Funny story about starter abuse:
Co-worker had a PT Cruiser that had intermittent starting probl
Sorry, I'm late to all this, but I see your post where you mention the
problem is the relay... I didn't catch up on all the rest of them yet. But,
Being a 1980, this probably has the earlier style relay. You can open
these up and clean the contacts. If you hear it clicking, then the
solenoid in
Bob R wrote:
> I have removed the starter, but the solenoid back on, packed up and I'm
> heading over to UPS. Gary provided stellar customer serviceso far.
Yes.
Our problem was in December. We used hammer on starter for about 10 days
and then the problem disappeared. Gary found us a German s
Funny story about starter abuse:
Co-worker had a PT Cruiser that had intermittent starting problems, as in it
would not crank at random times. Knowing I had a "little" automotive experience
(his words) he asked me if I had any idea as to the problem.
"Check all of your battery terminals, chassi
I have removed the starter, but the solenoid back on, packed up and I'm
heading over to UPS. Gary provided stellar customer serviceso far.
Bob R
On Apr 8, 2013 3:27 PM, "Dan Penoff" wrote:
> If you can find a solenoid it will cost almost as much as a complete
> starter. That's just the way t
If you can find a solenoid it will cost almost as much as a complete starter.
That's just the way the market is.
This solenoid works by pulling in the armature to engage the bendix drive on
the starter. When the armature pulls in, a large copper disc on the armature
shorts the two large termina
cussion List"
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 5:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.
>
>
> I'm working on the warranty thing right now. Oddly enough, I got this
>> starter from Gary. I'm going to get a big dose of his customer service
>> rig
I guess you turned in the old starter when you got the "new" one?
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "Bob Rentfro"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.
I'm working on
I'm working on the warranty thing right now. Oddly enough, I got this
starter from Gary. I'm going to get a big dose of his customer service
right now.
And, as a point of data for everyone, no one sells starter solenoids by
them self anymore.
Bob R
On Apr 8, 2013 2:14 PM, "Craig" wrote:
> On Mon
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 13:26:38 -0700 Bob Rentfro wrote:
> The solenoid came installed on the new Bosch starter I bought three
> months ago. So what holds that's so annoying on? Is it allen head?
You bought it new three months ago?
What kind of warranty does it have?
Can you not make good on the w
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 13:38:49 -0700 Bob Rentfro wrote:
> Sothis is the first time I've tried to remove a solenoid. It appears
> that the electrical part comes off and the mechanical part stays on the
> starter is that correct?
You will first need to remove the starter from the car.
Then loose
I get it now. Thanks for all the advice, men. Gotta get the pug on the
road. Gotta find a solenoid
On Apr 8, 2013 1:39 PM, "Craig" wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 13:02:54 -0700 Bob Rentfro wrote:
>
> > > What happens when you short the top large terminal on the starter
> > > (with the large wire t
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 13:02:54 -0700 Bob Rentfro wrote:
> > What happens when you short the top large terminal on the starter
> > (with the large wire that goes to the battery) to the small, middle
> > terminal on the starter?
>
> Curtain Craig I just went from the top lug to the small lug on the
>
Sothis is the first time I've tried to remove a solenoid. It appears
that the electrical part comes off and the mechanical part stays on the
starter is that correct?
Bob R
On Apr 8, 2013 1:26 PM, "Bob Rentfro" wrote:
> The solenoid came installed on the new Bosch starter I bought three month
The solenoid came installed on the new Bosch starter I bought three months
ago. So what holds that's so annoying on? Is it allen head?
On Apr 8, 2013 1:14 PM, "Randy Bennell" wrote:
> On 08/04/2013 3:02 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:
>
>> Curtain Craig I just went from the top lug to the small lug on the
On 08/04/2013 3:02 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:
Curtain Craig I just went from the top lug to the small lug on the solenoid
and I can hear clicking at the glow plug relay but nothing happens.
Bad solenoid?
On Apr 8, 2013 12:56 PM, "Craig" wrote:
Let me suggest that you get one of the remote starter
> Bob Rentfro wrote:
> nothing when key is turned to start position. Get all
> the correct dash lights, have power in the wire going from
> ignition switch to solenoid when key is in start position. All
> voltage readings are correct on everything. Everything is
> tight and clean. I'm at a
the stick).
Wilton
- Original Message - From: "Bob Rentfro"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.
Okay...glow light comes on again. So now it's one issuenothing when key
is turned to
Curtain Craig I just went from the top lug to the small lug on the solenoid
and I can hear clicking at the glow plug relay but nothing happens.
Bad solenoid?
On Apr 8, 2013 12:56 PM, "Craig" wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 12:19:17 -0700 Bob Rentfro wrote:
>
> > Okay...glow light comes on again. So
That was my immediate thought as well.
If there is power to the solenoid, it should try to kick in unless the
solenoid is bad.
Unfortunately, with diesels of this vintage (at least on mine) you can't
just turn the key on and off a few times to see if it catches.
When the solenoid contacts were
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 12:19:17 -0700 Bob Rentfro wrote:
> Okay...glow light comes on again. So now it's one issuenothing when
> key is turned to start position. Get all the correct dash lights, have
> power in the wire going from ignition switch to solenoid when key is in
> start position. All v
olenoid but not
power THROUGH the solenoid its the solenoid...
-Curt
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 12:19:17 -0700
From: Bob Rentfro
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.
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Okay...glow light comes on again.
The solenoid/ starter is new Bosch. Well, 3 months old. And yes Wilton, I
have mechanically agitated it. Getting a little frustrating.
Bob R
On Apr 8, 2013 12:46 PM, "Dan Penoff" wrote:
> If you have B+ at the solenoid wire then it should work when you reconnect
> the wire to the solenoid - unle
t: Monday, April 08, 2013 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.
Okay...glow light comes on again. So now it's one issuenothing when
key
is turned to start position. Get all the correct dash lights, have power
in
the wire going from ignition switch to solenoid when
If you have B+ at the solenoid wire then it should work when you reconnect the
wire to the solenoid - unless the solenoid has a problem.
Dan
On Apr 8, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:
> Okay...glow light comes on again. So now it's one issuenothing when key
> is turned to start positio
Wiring diagram, digital multi-meter, basic understanding of direct current
electrical theory, and time with the patient...
-OR-
A friend with identical year/model car you can compare to your car, but that
isn't a sure thing if the problem is deeper than crossed wires.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston
Okay...glow light comes on again. So now it's one issuenothing when key
is turned to start position. Get all the correct dash lights, have power in
the wire going from ignition switch to solenoid when key is in start
position. All voltage readings are correct on everything. Everything is
tight
Should click (energize) at position 2, position 3 is the last spring loaded
position which energizes the starter? I'm assuming position zero is off, and 1
is the accessory position...
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
Bob Rentfro wrote:
>The previous owner had th
Bingo, sounds like your wiring is messed up, AND you've got other issues now
complicating the scene.
You probably need to start with a wiring diagram, and validate each and every
wire connected to the ignition switch and the glow plug relay and the starter.
The AC wiring on my '87 wagon had bee
You mean the big 80 amp one? It looks good I took it off and cleaned around
it and put it back in. I think Herr Doktor would be okay with that.
Bob R
On Apr 7, 2013 2:11 PM, "Rich Thomas"
wrote:
> Did you REPLACE THE FUSE? Those things get wonky easily.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 4/7/13 5:07 PM, Bob Rentf
Did you REPLACE THE FUSE? Those things get wonky easily.
--R
On 4/7/13 5:07 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:
The previous owner had this car all jacked up. The ignition switch was a
disaster so I replaced it. This is a separate problem from the initial
problem. I think I have it narrowed down to the glo
The previous owner had this car all jacked up. The ignition switch was a
disaster so I replaced it. This is a separate problem from the initial
problem. I think I have it narrowed down to the glowplug relay now. Its
clicking when I turn the key to position three.
Bob R
On Apr 7, 2013 2:05 PM, "Fmi
> Bob Rentfro wrote:
> Here is the deal: turn the key to position 2 no glow light.
> Turn the key to start position, nothing.but I can hear one
> kinda loud click coming from the fuse bus area.
> The ignition switch (mechanical and electrical portions) has
> been replaced. New starter, new cab
Here is the deal: turn the key to position 2 no glow light. Turn the key to
start position, nothing.but I can hear one kinda loud click coming from
the fuse bus area.
The ignition switch (mechanical and electrical portions) has been replaced.
New starter, new cables, line from ignition switch
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