Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-27 Thread Dumitru Mișu Moldovan
On 06/26/18 11:03, Marco van Hulten wrote: Robert, On 25 Jun 22:01 Robert Gilaard wrote: I am just researching this as well and have settled on the Dell laptops because they come pre-configured with Ubuntu and therefore I assume they will be opensource friendly. It could be fine, but I would

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-26 Thread lists
Tue, 26 Jun 2018 15:47:31 -0400 Rupert Gallagher > What crap is this? YOURS. What you put into a system is what you get from the same system..

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-26 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Stuart Longland wrote: The IBM Thinkpads… sure, they worked well. The Lenovo ones? Looking at the ones around the office, they've been a bit hit-and-miss, on both Linux and their out-of-the-box Windows installs. that is true... the latest IBM heritage you can get is the T43, although

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-26 Thread Daniel Corbe
at 2:53 PM, li...@wrant.com wrote: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 22:01:42 + (UTC) Robert Gilaard I am just researching this as well and have settled on the Dell Hi Robert, Rupert, Email coming from Yahoo is flagged as phishing scam, wastes time digging. **This is unacceptable advice** Emphasis

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-26 Thread Rupert Gallagher
What crap is this? On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 20:53, wrote: > Your other threads on server boards and systems make much more sense now. You are off topic, and have no fucking clue of what you are talking about.

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-26 Thread lists
Mon, 25 Jun 2018 22:01:42 + (UTC) Robert Gilaard > I am just researching this as well and have settled on the Dell Hi Robert, Rupert, Email coming from Yahoo is flagged as phishing scam, wastes time digging. This is unacceptable advice, something very wrong with the advertisement. Search

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-26 Thread Henrik Dige Semark
Generally the Lenovo laptops works really well, nothing beats the IBM days, but I have at the moment around 90 or so X1 Carbon's out in the field in various generations from generation 2 all the way to latest 6th gen., never had problems with the Linux support or stability of the laptops. Can't

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-26 Thread Stuart Longland
On 26/06/18 18:03, Marco van Hulten wrote: > In retrospect, I wish I took the similarly spec'ed Lenovo Thinkpad that > my employer also offered, because Thinkpads are said to be "opensource > friendly" (but that may be just as well be wishful thinking). The IBM Thinkpads… sure, they worked well.

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-26 Thread Jeffrey Joshua Rollin
ThinkPads use devices for which there are open source devices for everything, as far as I know. Still, hardware support in the BSDs lags Linux to varying degrees, because of slower hardware. (My 2015 E550, for example, still lacked full video support in FreeBSD RELEASE,  last time I looked. In

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-26 Thread Marco van Hulten
Robert, On 25 Jun 22:01 Robert Gilaard wrote: > I am just researching this as well and have settled on the Dell > laptops because they come pre-configured with Ubuntu and therefore I > assume they will be opensource friendly. It could be fine, but I would not just assume this. The

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-25 Thread Robert Gilaard
I am just researching this as well and have settled on the Dell laptops because they come pre-configured with Ubuntu and therefore I assume they will be opensource friendly. I have short listed:1. Dell Precision 7520 ($1502)2. Dell Precision 7720 ($1412)3. Dell Precision 3520 ($1352) Prices

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-23 Thread Rupert Gallagher
I looked into all of your comments, and I thank you for it. The coreboot/libreboot way was very tempting, but not competitive pricewise. I no longer have a desktop since the past century, spoiled by three MBPs, and need something robust, light, and performing. I spotted an offer for a new

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-22 Thread Patrick Harper
X200 is a bad idea, Core 2 Duos will never get microcode updates for Spectre bugs. -- Patrick Harper paia...@fastmail.com On Thu, 21 Jun 2018, at 08:30, flipchan wrote: > I got the x200 with libreboot and openbsd > > On June 19, 2018 10:47:24 AM UTC, Kaya Saman wrote: > >I couldn't say

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-21 Thread flipchan
I got the x200 with libreboot and openbsd On June 19, 2018 10:47:24 AM UTC, Kaya Saman wrote: >I couldn't say for the compatibility with OpenBSD though I have read >other people running on them, but how about Lenovo?? > > >I've got an X220 which I run a Linux distro on which I'm really happy

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-21 Thread bytevolcano
In his defense, you did exactly that which you are accusing him of, not providing "technical" arguments. "Oh look at this laptop which I've apparently never used but I'd recommend you look into anyway." "I hear they're quite nice, and are running coreboot straight from the factory." It sounds

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-21 Thread Thomas Levine
I spoke with Todd Weaver at LibrePlanet about running OpenBSD on Purism. I suggested that the company install a bunch of operating systems and post dmesg, but I don't think they have done that yet. If I remember correctly, he also said he would be happy to provide a refurbished laptop to a

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-20 Thread Patrick Harper
> > Mvh, Johan > — > Smartphone. Ja... just det. > > > 20 juni 2018 kl. 21:36 skrev Patrick Harper : > > > > HP EliteBook 745 G2? > > > > -- > > Patrick Harper > > paia...@fastmail.com > > > >> On Wed, 20 Jun 2018, at 09:01, Tho

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-20 Thread Johan Mellberg
be just my specimen but then again, maybe not. Mvh, Johan — Smartphone. Ja... just det. > 20 juni 2018 kl. 21:36 skrev Patrick Harper : > > HP EliteBook 745 G2? > > -- > Patrick Harper > paia...@fastmail.com > >> On Wed, 20 Jun 2018, at 09:01, Thomas Fr

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-20 Thread Patrick Harper
HP EliteBook 745 G2? -- Patrick Harper paia...@fastmail.com On Wed, 20 Jun 2018, at 09:01, Thomas Frohwein wrote: > No AMD laptop recommendations in this day and age? Also buying used or > refurbished laptops on eBay is a security risk from the outset - ask > yourself how well

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-20 Thread Thomas Frohwein
No AMD laptop recommendations in this day and age? Also buying used or refurbished laptops on eBay is a security risk from the outset - ask yourself how well you would be at spotting if someone had tampered e.g. with the webcam or the firmware? With new hardware, you have at least a reasonable

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-20 Thread Maximilian Pichler
I'm quite happy with my Asus Zenbook 3 (UX390UA). It's thinner, lighter and more powerful than the current MacBooks and costs about 1100 EUR now. On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > I'm done with my 10 years old 1200EUR MacBookPro. It served me well, every > day, but is

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread Patrick Marchand
You can get a pretty good refurbished 3th gen thinkpad x1 carbon under 900$. I've baught two on ebay over the last year,

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread Jordan Geoghegan
On 06/19/18 11:20, li...@wrant.com wrote: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 09:59:45 -0700 Jordan Geoghegan Have you considered one of the Librem laptops by Purism? I hear they're quite nice, and are running coreboot straight from the factory. The pinnacle of bullshit talk, utter nonsense, no technical value

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread Scott Bonds
On 06/19/18 03:37, Rupert Gallagher wrote: I have 1500EUR for a new laptop. What would you buy with it? On 06/19, Jordan Geoghegan wrote: Have you considered one of the Librem laptops by Purism? I hear they're quite nice, and are running coreboot straight from the factory. They run

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread Rupert Gallagher
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 21:16, Scott Bonds wrote: > On 06/19, Jordan Geoghegan wrote: >>Have you considered one of the Librem laptops by Purism? I hear they're quite >>nice, and are running coreboot straight from the factory! > They run OpenBSD fine with some caveats: >

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread lists
Tue, 19 Jun 2018 09:59:45 -0700 Jordan Geoghegan > Have you considered one of the Librem laptops by Purism? I hear they're > quite nice, and are running coreboot straight from the factory. The pinnacle of bullshit talk, utter nonsense, no technical value at all. > Tue, 19 Jun 2018 06:37:18

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread Jordan Geoghegan
Have you considered one of the Librem laptops by Purism? I hear they're quite nice, and are running coreboot straight from the factory. On 06/19/18 03:37, Rupert Gallagher wrote: I'm done with my 10 years old 1200EUR MacBookPro. It served me well, every day, but is now falling apart,

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread traveller
I use 6.3 on my T450S. Works great. Also have installed easily on the Dell E7240 and E7440. I prefer the Thinkpad but the Dell is solid also. You can probably get one of each for under $1000. Likely you will want to replace the battery either way but all of these machines are available used

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread Gilles Chehade
I love my DELL Latitude E7240 :-) June 19, 2018 1:01 PM, "Jeffrey Joshua Rollin" wrote: > Definitely second the ThinkPad recommendations. I have an X230i, bought used, > on which I currently > run OpenBSD 6.3, and an E550 on which I've used OpenBSD in the past; both run > perfectly as of

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 06:37:18AM -0400, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > > I have 1500EUR for a new laptop. What would you buy with it? I myself have worn out a few thinkpads over the years, but my last couple of laptops have been Clevo rebrands - local outfits tend to slap their own brands on them,

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread Jeffrey Joshua Rollin
Definitely second the ThinkPad recommendations. I have an X230i, bought used, on which I currently run OpenBSD 6.3, and an E550 on which I've used OpenBSD in the past; both run perfectly as of 6.2, except for the fingerprint reader on the X (although to be fair I haven't tried that again

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread Daniel Gracia
I would opt for a Thinkpad. Actually working with a T460s; runs like a charm. If you are looking for mobility, a T series should fit. If you need more horsepower take a look at P series. Of course those are my preferences, YMMV! Regards. El mar., 19 jun. 2018 a las 12:41, Rupert Gallagher ()

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread Kaya Saman
I couldn't say for the compatibility with OpenBSD though I have read other people running on them, but how about Lenovo?? I've got an X220 which I run a Linux distro on which I'm really happy with though the i7 CPU does seem to overheat for some reason, though I seem to have this issue with

New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread Rupert Gallagher
I'm done with my 10 years old 1200EUR MacBookPro. It served me well, every day, but is now falling apart, finally. I would buy a new one if only Steve Jobs would be alive and keeping Apple inspired. The new models are meticulously designed to make you suffer: expensive, slow cpu, soldered ram,

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-15 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Mihai Popescu [mih...@gmail.com] wrote: > Folks, pay attention, please! The OP asked about a laptop. > Pansonic Thoughbook is not a laptop! It's a real desktop. > I was talking about the Panasonic _Toughbook_ which is definitely a laptop. The CF-C1 and CF-19MK3/MK4/MK5 models are all very

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-13 Thread Nathan Koch
Thanks for all the support everyone. I'm weighing my options. -Nate On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 04:20:15PM -0500, Donald Allen wrote: > On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Mihai Popescu wrote: > > > Folks, pay attention, please! The OP asked about a laptop. > > Pansonic Thoughbook

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-12 Thread Donald Allen
On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Mihai Popescu wrote: > Folks, pay attention, please! The OP asked about a laptop. > Pansonic Thoughbook is not a laptop! It's a real desktop. > I think the folks *are* paying attention. For example:

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-12 Thread Mihai Popescu
Folks, pay attention, please! The OP asked about a laptop. Pansonic Thoughbook is not a laptop! It's a real desktop. Thanks.

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-12 Thread Bryan C. Everly
I picked up a Core 2 Duo Toughbook for $40 US on eBay a month or so back. I had to spend another $9 to get an Intel WiFi card for it but it worked right out of the box. With an older processor and only 4gb of RAM it isn't a powerhouse dev machine, but for email, web, etc it works great. The wifi

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-12 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 07:46:30AM -0600, Jordon wrote: > > On Nov 12, 2016, at 5:36 AM, Stefan Sperling wrote: > > > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 08:03:04PM -0600, jordon wrote: > >> WiFi Just Works! > > > >> iwm0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Intel Dual Band Wireless AC 8260" rev

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-12 Thread bytevolcano
On Sat, 12 Nov 2016 07:25:11 -0600 Chris Bennett wrote: > > I also notice that Thinkpads and Toughbooks seem to be the preferred > choices for a cheaper laptop. I need a newer laptop too, so I will > look into those on ebay. > > Thanks > Chris Bennett >

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-12 Thread Jordon
> On Nov 12, 2016, at 5:36 AM, Stefan Sperling wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 08:03:04PM -0600, jordon wrote: >> WiFi Just Works! > >> iwm0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Intel Dual Band Wireless AC 8260" rev 0x3a, >> msi > > Uhmm, you probably wanna be running -current with this

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-12 Thread Chris Bennett
On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 12:36:54PM +0100, Stefan Sperling wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 08:03:04PM -0600, jordon wrote: > > WiFi Just Works! > > > iwm0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Intel Dual Band Wireless AC 8260" rev 0x3a, > > msi > > Uhmm, you probably wanna be running -current with this one.

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-12 Thread Bryan C. Everly
I have been running a Thinkpad x220 for some time until it died. I replaced it with an x230 (my RAM, hard drive and mSATA drive were compatible so I moved them) and I must say it is a much better machine. Everything literally works out of the box and the build quality was much better. I am now

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-12 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 08:03:04PM -0600, jordon wrote: > WiFi Just Works! > iwm0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Intel Dual Band Wireless AC 8260" rev 0x3a, > msi Uhmm, you probably wanna be running -current with this one. Then wifi should work even better ;-)

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-11 Thread jordon
> On Nov 9, 2016, at 11:47 PM, Nathan Koch wrote: > > Greetings Fair BSD Wizards, > I am new to the lists. I am currently shopping for a new Xmas present for myself and am looking for a laptop that's portable and lightweight. Preferably fast, cheap (close to free), light, and

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-11 Thread Carl Trachte
Off topic (durability): I've owned a couple X220 ThinkPads now and I don't disagree with the Cappuccino report - fans are a real weak point on the ThinkPad - and they break at the worst times - usually when travelling. Basically, the laptop get squished a little, the fan stops working, and you

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-11 Thread Chris Cappuccio
harry666t [harry6...@gmail.com] wrote: > On 11 November 2016 at 03:25, Brian wrote: > > Thinkpads are used often by folks wanting to get that penguin OS going also. > > Typing this on a Thinkpad X200s, running 6.0, very very happy with it. I consistently get junk when I

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-11 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 12:20:47PM +0100, Robert wrote: > On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:21:54 +0100 > harry666t wrote: > > > On 11 November 2016 at 03:25, Brian wrote: > > > Thinkpads are used often by folks wanting to get that penguin OS going > > > also.

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-11 Thread Robert
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:21:54 +0100 harry666t wrote: > On 11 November 2016 at 03:25, Brian wrote: > > Thinkpads are used often by folks wanting to get that penguin OS going > > also. +1 I'm using a T400 (14.1"), or when travelling an X61s. I

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-11 Thread harry666t
On 11 November 2016 at 03:25, Brian wrote: > Thinkpads are used often by folks wanting to get that penguin OS going also. Typing this on a Thinkpad X200s, running 6.0, very very happy with it.

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-10 Thread Brian
Thinkpads are used often by folks wanting to get that penguin OS going also. Brian On 11/10/2016 4:34 PM, STeve Andre' wrote: On 11/10/16 00:47, Nathan Koch wrote: Greetings Fair BSD Wizards, I am new to the lists. I am currently shopping for a new Xmas present for myself and am looking

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-10 Thread STeve Andre'
On 11/10/16 00:47, Nathan Koch wrote: Greetings Fair BSD Wizards, I am new to the lists. I am currently shopping for a new Xmas present for myself and am looking for a laptop that's portable and lightweight. Preferably fast, cheap (close to free), light, and secure. If you have any

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-10 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Wed, Nov 09, 2016 at 11:47:52PM -0600, Nathan Koch wrote: > Greetings Fair BSD Wizards, > I am new to the lists. I am currently shopping for a new Xmas present for > myself and am looking for a laptop that's portable and lightweight. > Preferably fast, cheap (close to free), light, and

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-10 Thread bytevolcano
I seem to be doing fine on an old Panasonic Toughbook. They can be bought quite cheap if you don't mind them being several years old. Having said that, if you want a laptop that is "close to free", then expect failures to be "close to free" also. On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 23:47:52 -0600 Nathan Koch

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-09 Thread Alex McWhirter
I'm not sure if anything new is a good choice, particularly because of a lack of current GPU / WiFi drivers. I usually pick up something about a year or two old on refurb \ second hand market. Dell's business line (latitude / precision) have treated me well in the past. Just stick with Intel or

Laptop Recommendations?

2016-11-09 Thread Nathan Koch
Greetings Fair BSD Wizards, I am new to the lists. I am currently shopping for a new Xmas present for myself and am looking for a laptop that's portable and lightweight. Preferably fast, cheap (close to free), light, and secure. If you have any recommendations before the stormy winter hits the

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-06-13 Thread Christopher Snell
I'm still looking for a laptop. Does anybody know of a laptop that will do at least 1600x___ resolution and have rudimentary power management (ie., I can pull the AC plug and the laptop does not lock up)? Chris On 5/29/06, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/26/06, Christopher Snell

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-06-13 Thread Graeme Neilson
dell inspiron 8100 On 6/14/06, Christopher Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm still looking for a laptop. Does anybody know of a laptop that will do at least 1600x___ resolution and have rudimentary power management (ie., I can pull the AC plug and the laptop does not lock up)? Chris On

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-06-13 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 05:40:47PM -0600, Christopher Snell wrote: I'm still looking for a laptop. Does anybody know of a laptop that will do at least 1600x___ resolution and have rudimentary power management (ie., I can pull the AC plug and the laptop does not lock up)? If you want a big,

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-06-01 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 17:46 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: Intel is trying to release documentation and open up as fast as they can to stay in the market. It's almost pathetic, but yes, it is benefiting us (as it should, and thus, us running on their machines benefits them, as it should). In

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-29 Thread Ted Unangst
On 5/26/06, Christopher Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems like every major laptop manufacturer is locked into Intel CPU, graphics, WiFi, and sound and that there's no chance in hell that Intel will release specs on these. What is the future of laptop support for free Unicies? Will

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-29 Thread Theo de Raadt
On 5/26/06, Christopher Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems like every major laptop manufacturer is locked into Intel CPU, graphics, WiFi, and sound and that there's no chance in hell that Intel will release specs on these. What is the future of laptop support for free Unicies? Will

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-26 Thread Christopher Snell
On 5/11/06, Chris Cappuccio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always run across cheap/free/lying around dell laptops that work great. The sound works, the wireless might work, and suspend usually works. Right now I have a dell latitude c400, they're on ebay for $300, the thing weighs 2.5 pounds, it's

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-26 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 26/05/06, Christopher Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/11/06, Chris Cappuccio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always run across cheap/free/lying around dell laptops that work great. The sound works, the wireless might work, and suspend usually works. Right now I have a dell latitude c400,

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-12 Thread Greg Thomas
On 5/11/06, Chris Cappuccio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Karsten McMinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: z60t here. as mentioned earlier no support for the intel HD audio, upek bio, acpi, atherors 5212, intel wifi, Ricoh 5C552 firewire, 5C822 SD reader or the 915GM. Needless to say i multiboot

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-12 Thread Srebrenko Sehic
On 5/11/06, Didier Wiroth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm currently using a thinkpad 60s Dual booting between xp and current, yes currently still required ;-)) see below Here is a short rundown: a) Performance is nice with bsd kernel, performance is degraded with bsd.mp b) sound chip

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-12 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 11/05/06, rjn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking into getting a new laptop (I start college in the fall). [...] On 11/05/06, rjn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wanted to thank everyone for their input. Although I won't buy one immediately, I'll probably get a T43 as they are still

Panic question + RE: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-12 Thread Didier Wiroth
Please try compiling a GENERIC kernel from a -current src tree but uncommenting the azalia device in the config.. Almost ... ;-) Azalia causes a panic during the boot process, right after loading the azalia driver. Here is some output (rewritten by hand) as the thinkbad X60s has no serial port:

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-12 Thread Karsten McMinn
On 5/11/06, Chris Cappuccio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does everyone have to post on here a message that says: 1. Most of the devices on my IBM laptop are completely unsupported 2. I love my IBM laptop!! hold a ibm and a dell side by side and you'll answer that question. Yes, I have a

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-12 Thread Samurai Chef
On 5/11/06, Roger Neth Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/11/06, Bryan Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I had checked the archives for misc@, and what I had read indicated that the Macbook Pro could boot OpenBSD using Parallels virtualization software, but not natively due to hang while

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-12 Thread Roger Neth Jr
On 5/12/06, Samurai Chef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/11/06, Roger Neth Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/11/06, Bryan Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I had checked the archives for misc@, and what I had read indicated that the Macbook Pro could boot OpenBSD using Parallels

Laptop recommendations

2006-05-11 Thread rjn
Hi all, I'm looking into getting a new laptop (I start college in the fall). In particular, I'm looking for something OpenBSD compatible. I considering either a Lenovo Thinkpad or the MacBook Pro. From what I've seen you can only boot the macbook pro if you have windows installed. I'm

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-11 Thread Timo Schoeler
thus rjn spake: Hi all, I'm looking into getting a new laptop (I start college in the fall). In particular, I'm looking for something OpenBSD compatible. I considering either a Lenovo Thinkpad or the MacBook Pro. From what I've seen you can only boot the macbook pro if you have windows

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-11 Thread Jason Crawford
On 5/11/06, rjn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm looking into getting a new laptop (I start college in the fall). In particular, I'm looking for something OpenBSD compatible. I considering either a Lenovo Thinkpad or the MacBook Pro. From what I've seen you can only boot the macbook pro

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-11 Thread rjn
On 5/11/06, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to be when I first heard about it). If you search the archives you'll see dmesgs from the new macs. I had checked the archives for misc@, and what I had read indicated that the Macbook Pro could boot OpenBSD using Parallels virtualization

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-11 Thread Aaron Glenn
On 5/11/06, rjn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering if anybody has experience with the new Lenovo models and the macbook pro? A quick search of the archives will show you a number of OpenBSD developers currently run with the X40 model. That being said, I have a T60p on order, but I wont

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-11 Thread Timo Schoeler
thus rjn spake: On 5/11/06, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to be when I first heard about it). If you search the archives you'll see dmesgs from the new macs. I had checked the archives for misc@, and what I had read indicated that the Macbook Pro could boot OpenBSD using Parallels

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-11 Thread Bryan Irvine
snip I had checked the archives for misc@, and what I had read indicated that the Macbook Pro could boot OpenBSD using Parallels virtualization software, but not natively due to hang while probing USB. Also, I'm under the opinion that the wireless doesn't work as they use broadcom adapters

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-11 Thread Roger Neth Jr
On 5/11/06, Bryan Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I had checked the archives for misc@, and what I had read indicated that the Macbook Pro could boot OpenBSD using Parallels virtualization software, but not natively due to hang while probing USB. Also, I'm under the opinion that the

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-11 Thread Didier Wiroth
Hello, I'm currently using a thinkpad 60s Dual booting between xp and current, yes currently still required ;-)) see below Here is a short rundown: a) Performance is nice with bsd kernel, performance is degraded with bsd.mp b) sound chip currently not supported c) intel wireless lan currently not

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-11 Thread STeve Andre'
On Thursday 11 May 2006 15:21, rjn wrote: Hi all, I'm looking into getting a new laptop (I start college in the fall). In particular, I'm looking for something OpenBSD compatible. I considering either a Lenovo Thinkpad or the MacBook Pro. From what I've seen you can only boot the macbook

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-11 Thread Andreas Maus
Hi RJ. I would recommend IBM/Lenovo. OpenBSD 3.9 works out of the box including (but not limited to ;) suspend, buttons, ... on my IBM X40. After a hard disk error on my Mac PowerBook (ppc architecture) I discovered that the support from Mac is really sh*t. Having a choice between IBM/Lenovo I

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-11 Thread Maximiliano G. Vidal
As Jason already mentioned, look at the laptop page. I'm not sure my ThinkPad, an A31p is on that list. They aren't new, but you can get one in the $700 range now, and they're perhaps the best laptop IBM made. You can have three disks in it, too. I've had mine for three years now and the

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-11 Thread Karsten McMinn
On Thursday 11 May 2006 15:21, rjn wrote: Hi all, I'm looking into getting a new laptop (I start college in the fall). In particular, I'm looking for something OpenBSD compatible. I considering either a Lenovo Thinkpad or the MacBook Pro. From what I've seen you can only boot the

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-11 Thread Andre
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Neth Jr Sent: 11 May 2006 10:52 PM To: OpenBSD general usage list Subject: Re: Laptop recommendations On 5/11/06, Bryan Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I had checked the archives

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-11 Thread rjn
I just wanted to thank everyone for their input. Although I won't buy one immediately, I'll probably get a T43 as they are still available if you look. Maybe support for the ACPI/audio/wifi in the T60 will be better by the time I'm getting ready to buy so I can have the nice SATA drive and

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-11 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Karsten McMinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: z60t here. as mentioned earlier no support for the intel HD audio, upek bio, acpi, atherors 5212, intel wifi, Ricoh 5C552 firewire, 5C822 SD reader or the 915GM. Needless to say i multiboot -current with debian. and yes, debian is a pita. All that

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-11 Thread STeve Andre'
On Thursday 11 May 2006 19:22, Chris Cappuccio wrote: Karsten McMinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: z60t here. as mentioned earlier no support for the intel HD audio, upek bio, acpi, atherors 5212, intel wifi, Ricoh 5C552 firewire, 5C822 SD reader or the 915GM. Needless to say i multiboot

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-11 Thread Sam Chill
On 5/11/06, Chris Cappuccio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pretty much any older dell that I try is very well supported, for what it's worth. I have noticed the same thing. I have a Dell Latitude c600 which goes for only a few hundred on ebay and works very well. Everything works but the winmodem.

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-11 Thread Graeme Neilson
I have had no problems from my 8100 and it has been going for years (touch wood!) On 5/12/06, Sam Chill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/11/06, Chris Cappuccio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pretty much any older dell that I try is very well supported, for what it's worth. I have noticed the same

Re: Laptop recommendations

2006-05-11 Thread Aaron Poffenberger
rjn wrote: Hi all, I'm looking into getting a new laptop (I start college in the fall). In particular, I'm looking for something OpenBSD compatible. I considering either a Lenovo Thinkpad or the MacBook Pro. From what I've seen you can only boot the macbook pro if you have windows installed.