uot; reported at the end of the error log.
It sounds very familiar! I can do a full save on this page, but when I
double click on the saved application NS falls over with a
segmentation fault. I'm using the latest build.
Incidentally I have swapped out the 128MB SODIMM that I thought
t;
>> Still having difficulties. Anything later than r5991 (08-01-09) seems to
>> produce a full save error. What is the significance of "Fatal signal
>> received: Segmentation fault" reported at the end of the error log.
> Without the rest of the log file, n
On 27 Jul 2009 Richard Porter wrote:
> I'll raise a bug report with my evidence.
Sorry I won't do that because the zipped full save would need
splitting in three to get round Sourceforge's silly upload
restrictions. They ought to put the limit up to 1MB minimum.
I tried to
In response to my recent bug report, JMB wrote:
> Most HTML alignment hints have been ignored since the move to libcss.
> This will be fixed in due course.
It appears that advert suppression has also gone titsup. I assume this
will be fixed too?
Richard
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On 4 Aug 2009 Richard Torrens (lists) wrote:
> http://www.roadpilot.com/en/faq.asp
> Doesn't display properly.
> I saved it locally, deleted the ... bits and it displays.
> I can't see what's causing the problem.
It seems to be OK here (r9012). What was wrong?
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On 4 Aug 2009 Richard Torrens (lists) wrote:
> In article <60d0918550.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>,
>Richard Porter wrote:
>> On 4 Aug 2009 Richard Torrens (lists) wrote:
>>> http://www.roadpilot.com/en/faq.asp
>>> Doesn't display properly.
>>
working in the 2.1
> release and wasn't on r8933 and its still broken as of r9045.
I've gone back to r8643 because of this and other problems with later
builds. Centering works with some things but not others, Also
advertisement suppression doesn't work on recent versions. See thr
-align the items but centre the list as a whole
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On 27 Aug 2009 Dave Lawton wrote:
> Please check bug #2845784 for details.
> Anyone else reproduce this ?
Yes, I've noticed that Netsurf is gobbling up memory again. Last time
I found it had three dynamic areas, and I had to quit it before
anything else woud run.
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On 27 Aug 2009 Rob Kendrick wrote:
> Just as a note, the number of dynamic areas it has means very little.
Fair point, but they were taking up a lot of memory too!
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On 27 Aug 2009 Rob Kendrick wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:18:13 +0100
> Richard Porter wrote:
>> Yes, I've noticed that Netsurf is gobbling up memory again. Last time
>> I found it had three dynamic areas, and I had to quit it before
>> anything else woud run.
&g
Wow! I can now see links on a blue background without recourse to css.
Thanks for implementing that at last.
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On 15 Sep 2009 Mike Hobbs wrote:
> Withdrawing support for RISC OS, to me, is crazy. There are already
> far more capable browsers for other platforms so I never use NetSurf
> on anything other than RISC OS.
Absolutely!
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I've uploaded a copy to
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up-to-date flash plugin for RISC OS is as much a constraint as
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phics, and especially if you
scroll down, the whole page dances up and down for many seconds. It
didn't used to do this and it's really not acceptable. Why can't it
work out how much space it needs for images if it's told, or do the
whole lot in one go if it isn
guess it's css/js related. The search is OK on Oregano 1.10.
I'll await comments here before raising a bug report.
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On 13 Oct 2009 John-Mark Bell wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 15:24 +0100, Richard Porter wrote:
>> I've noticed a problem with the search box on the site
>> http://www.fbhvc.co.uk/ . It appears at the top right of most pages. I
>> can't enter any text into the box a
ers (and
List-id: or Envelope-to: where appropriate).
Nevertheless it's better to use Bcc: for your correspondents'
addresses so you don't send them to the whole list. Better still, send
the message separately.
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Dirs.IDdisabled.WWW.Netsurf.Log
> That gets over written when you quit and reload NetSurf back in.
No, when you quit the log is still there. When NetSurf runs it creates
a new log, overwriting the previous one.
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gt; It isn't just 9764 - the same thing happens on the current stable
> release 2.1 (23 may 2009).
The last version I have that doesn't normally gobble memory is r8634
(21 Jul 2009).
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to the Edit window first so it sets
the filetype to text.
There are similar nasties if you try to paste text into a textarea.
It's quite likely to be rendered as a new page.
I would suggest a feature request if there isn't one there already.
Are we going to get a new version of Netsurf
t that it allows
certain file types like html and sets everything else to text.
Incidentally with Oregano 1 I can't paste text from IP into the Open
URL window but I can paste it into the URL bar. So I think you're
right and this is something that needs to be tackled in RISC OS.
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be pasted into a writable icon. I assume Oregano does its own
processing of the URL bar.
What I said earlier was that if I changed the file type to ImpDoc in
Edit, then I couldn't copy and paste it into Netsurf's URL bar.
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On 17 Apr 2010 Michael Drake wrote:
> I'd like to hear from users of NetSurf and WebJames on the same
> machine. The old deadlocking issue should be fixed, so please let us
> know if things are now working as they should.
Yep, it seems to have been fixed. Thanks.
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This is a long-standing problem. I'm sure I've raised a bug report for
it. NetSurf can also word-wrap at a tag when there's no white space.
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eadful memory
> management. NetSurf 2.5 simply has some measures to mitigate the issue.
Whether or not RISC OS's memory management is dreadful, most tasks
seem to cope with it.
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On 26 Apr 2010 Rob Kendrick wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:52:42 +0100
> Richard Porter wrote:
>> Whether or not RISC OS's memory management is dreadful, most tasks
>> seem to cope with it.
> Most tasks are not handling data structures anywhere near as complex as
&g
rceforge won't
accept it. If necessary split the log file up (by selective saving
from your favourite editor).
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ld save it, which I have done.
> I think I blame the BBC rather than NetSurf; is it worth a bug report?
> It loads fine in Windows Firefox, by the way.
I get the same on RO 6.16 - "converting 16097 bytes" but with the
fetch still in progress. Try getting her indoors to request
ce, which you can then add any new
> information to.
Unfortunately you can't add files to someone else's report, so it may
be necessary to raise a duplicate report if there's a log or
screenshot to upload.
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On 6 May 2010 Jim Nagel wrote:
> Richard Porter wrote on 6 May:
>> On 6 May 2010 David J. Ruck wrote:
>>> ... Of course the bug reporting facility does have a search facility to
>>> allow to find an existing instance, which you can then add any new
>>> i
On 19 May 2010 Gavin Wraith wrote:
> I am happy to see the SHIFT-F11 function for viewing box outlines.
> How does one turn it off?
SHIFT-F11
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P.
> Is this report in the correct form?
Yes, but upload it to the bug tracker - don't post it here!
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ly use the filename extension to
determine the filetype so will generally not exhibit this problem.
Make sure that you have entries for the relevant file types in your
mimemap file (Configure > Network > MimeMap to make sure you get the
right copy).
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as always been liable to keel over if you scroll while it is
loading a page. This may be content related - my sites are generally
OK but I am very wary of scrolling with the scroll wheel or scroll
bars, or resizing the window, while a page is loading.
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On 23 Jul 2010 Michael Drake wrote:
> In article <1271453b51.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>,
>Richard Porter wrote:
>> NetSurf has always been liable to keel over if you scroll while it is
>> loading a page. This may be content related - my sites are generally
>
ouse Mini. I don't know where the
crash occurs.
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5.0MB. I found that the cache directory
in !Scrap was nearly 0.5GB? I think this merits a bug report.
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id question :-)
> A simple drag gives it in text format, ideal for dropping into e-mails, in
> case that was unknown as well!
Ah, I thought that was Ctrl-drag but I wish it wouldn't put a line
feed in at the end of the URL as I normally want to add a quote at
that point.
having just logged into Yahoo! Groups.
NetSurf is continuously adding to the log file at about 1MB every 4 or
5 seconds. It's now got to 800MB. I'm not going to be able to send a
file of this size to the tracker even in a zip archive. There's
obviously an error that's causin
se
Shift-drag to transfer a problem page from NetSurf to Oregano.
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was a gif and I shoved it in Paint to modify it and obviously
> made a CU when I exported it.
> Silly me, but not the first time that's been done...
Why am I getting "Not found" for all of these links?
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an see the
argument "?func=add" at the bottom of the window, then click Select.
Richard
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I don't want a user experience. I just want stuff that works.
NetSurf has suddenly started to insert blank space around the edge of
my pages so that tabs that were nicely against the top edge are now
hanging in mid air. r10948 was OK; r10951 is exhibiting the fault.
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On 2 Dec 2010 Rob Kendrick wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 11:40:21PM +0000, Richard Porter wrote:
>> NetSurf has suddenly started to insert blank space around the edge of
>> my pages so that tabs that were nicely against the top edge are now
>> hanging in mid air. r10
On 2 Dec 2010 Rob Kendrick wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 11:40:21PM +0000, Richard Porter wrote:
>> NetSurf has suddenly started to insert blank space around the edge of
>> my pages so that tabs that were nicely against the top edge are now
>> hanging in mid air. r10
On 2 Dec 2010 Rob Kendrick wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 12:09:52PM +0000, Richard Porter wrote:
>> Is it possible to avoid this situation, for example by storing global
>> variables locally at start-up and not relying on them always pointing
>> to where they
endent.
Quit NetSurf before editing the hotlist directly. NetSurf reads it in
on startup and writes it back on shutdown.
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On 2 Dec 2010 Rob Kendrick wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 02:32:18PM +0000, Richard Porter wrote:
>> On 2 Dec 2010 Rob Kendrick wrote:
> The problem is, as you said yourself, we are not sure what the issue is.
>> You didn't answer my question: is it possible for NS
get a much
better estimate of the time remaining. If you just use the number of
bytes received over the last second the result is too volatile to be
useful.
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bject" window (Object
> Object > Info). Time for a feature request!
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I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
entials.
That's just it. You have to log in every time. A while back
Sourceforge used to log you in automatically using a cookie but that
was discontinued and NS doesn't remember logins.
Richard
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ometimes you need to make two attempts because the site is expecting
to find a cookie which isn't there the first time round.
This method used to work for SourceForge but now it's giving me a 403
error, probably because they've changed the form.
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enclosed in
> url() brackets. They are neither downloaded nor renamed.
I thought that a full save did in fact save all the objects that were
downloaded (i.e. before NS ran out of memory, if it did) but that
those referenced in stylesheets weren't accessible by clicking Menu on
them.
R
ile listing the original
> sources/names of the files - to be much more useful in practice, and
> more elegant.
Agreed.
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port email address and they initiated a
password reset for me.
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I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
waited for the page to finish downloading.
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I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
es have been downloaded.
> Also, NetSurf implements *FAR MORE* of HTML and CSS than either Fresco
> or Oregano. The amount of work it is doing is an order of magnatude
> greater.
The test pages were 'any browser' compatible so Netsurf didn't have to
do
On 4 Feb 2011 David J. Ruck wrote:
> On 04/02/2011 11:42, Richard Porter wrote:
>> The NetSurf web site says:
>>
>> "Efficiency lies at the heart of the NetSurf engine, allowing it to
>> outwit the heavyweights of the web browser world. The NetSurf team
>>
On 4 Feb 2011 Rob Kendrick wrote:
> As I said, you know where the sources are if you think you know better.
Point noted but I think the 'dancing around' is more of a design
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oesn't support CSS or
javascript. I am using css to enhance the appearance, but not things
like position:absolute. If I use javascript there's always an adequate
element. That doesn't apply to third party software like
Blah, though I haven't updated it beyond version 7
urn to the page).
So the initial rendering is slower in 2.6 (much slower for the
thumbnail index) but cacheing is a lot more effective.
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I don't want a &quo
On 11 Feb 2011 Michael Drake wrote:
> In article <66463fa051.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>,
>Richard Porter wrote:
>> Test 1 - following a link to near the bottom of a thumbnail index.
>> NetSurf r11515 28s
>> Test 2 - following a link to the latest forum po
On 11 Feb 2011 Michael Drake wrote:
> In article <564212a451.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>,
>Richard Porter wrote:
>> On 11 Feb 2011 Michael Drake wrote:
>>> Out of interest, what speed do you get if you set "incremental_reflow"
>>> to &qu
On 12 Feb 2011 Steve Fryatt wrote:
> On 11 Feb, Michael Drake wrote in message
> <51a418f545t...@netsurf-browser.org>:
>> In article <1ab017a451.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>,
>>Richard Porter wrote:
>>
>>> Try the other test. Go to http:/
se. It takes
over 3s to load the page whereas the previous version I downloaded
took 2s. Timings for double-clicking on the html file are similar.
Richard
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I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
I think this is the usual problem that priority has been given to CSS
over plain html and anything that is "deprecated" even if it's in
widespread use. The size and color attributes are supported though.
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On 13 Feb 2011 Michael Drake wrote:
> In article <51a4df40f4bbai...@argonet.co.uk>,
>Brian Bailey wrote:
>> Clearing the background to white and the redraw 'seems' to take ages.
> Please try r11667 or later.
r11668 is no better.
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On 13 Feb 2011 Brian Bailey wrote:
> In article <513201a551.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>,
>Richard Porter wrote:
>> On 13 Feb 2011 Michael Drake wrote:
>>> In article <51a4df40f4bbai...@argonet.co.uk>,
>>>Brian Bailey wrote:
>>>>
stingly, if I drag the same URL with an on-page
link a second time it is ignored but without the on-page link it is
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I don't want a "user exp
d an
email address in Oregano either. You could try the usual info@,
webmaster@ addresses or otherwise contact Richard Coles (the curator)
directly. I can almost certainly obtain his email address if you need
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e opens showing
filename "cms_resources/cfm".
Why is NS not using the filename it knows about? More to the point,
where does it get the filename from? I'm guessing there might be a
redirect, with the filename being passed as an argument to the CMS.
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On 24 Feb 2011 Rob Kendrick wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 04:19:27PM +0000, Richard Porter wrote:
>>
>> http://www.raib.gov.uk/cms_resources/110224_R032011_Carrbridge.pdf
>>
>> You can also save the link in any format and it is still correct.
>> Now cl
On 24 Feb 2011 george wrote:
> In message
> Richard Porter wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>> You're right, the latest version does get it right. Thanks.
>> My bug report of last year, 2998117 (to which I just added the above
>> case) can be closed as fix
n the application. With O1 I can click on an m3u link
and listen to the audio. I only need to launch !Stream if I want to
stop it playing. I guess most of the functionality is in RISC OS and
not the browser.
Richard
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On 25 Feb 2011 Chris Young wrote:
> It should say on your closure notice why it has been closed, ...
"Not going to happen."
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I don't want
ointer.
> To use interactive help, suitable software must be running. The program
> 'Help' is shipped with all RISC OS computers and it can be run from NetSurf's
> Help > Interactive helpmenu item."
!Help is run from the Apps window, not from NetSurf.
Surf crashed. I plead
> not guilty, but perhaps with a touch of insanity. 8-)
Did you run NetSurf again before saving the log? It doesn't look as
though you did much at all apart from maybe opening a file on disc.
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amp;g
> roup_id=51719
It takes a long time "converting 1379990 bytes", but then expands the
navigation menu. It also takes a lot of processing time when you close
the window. However I don't see the problem reported on the tracker.
(r11931, KRPC 300MHz, 128MB, OS 6.16)
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t.Files.MimeMap
> ...!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.Internet.Files.MimeMap
Configure > Network > MimeMap will open the right one.
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I don't want a "us
w, Peter, The NatWest on-line baking site isn't working too
> well either!
The GoneWest Bank site has always been pants.
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on Red Hat Linux.
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up a Windross laptop. Internet Exploder was so
full of crap I didn't even bother to clean it up - I just used it to
download Firefox.
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correct, incorrect or
unspecified?
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pen from the report page it was fine.
>> However, I tried it again a few minutes ago and selecting Reopen
>> results in the whole lot disappearing.
> Curiously I cannot corroborate any of this. On my Mac, NetSurf is
> running and has always run well. No crashes seen.
I just ge
e text if it
doesn't fit.
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On 27 Apr 2011 Michael Drake wrote:
> In article <2a18a0ca51.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>,
>Richard Porter wrote:
>> I don't like it either, especially if the image dimensions are
>> specified. It would be better to truncate or wrap the text if it
>> doesn
On 28 Apr 2011 Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote:
> On 27 Apr at 19:49, Michael Drake wrote:
>> In article <2a18a0ca51.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>,
>>Richard Porter wrote:
>>
>>> I don't like it either, especially if the image dimensions are
>>> spe
If you type your password and press
Return the page comes back with errors on all the fields in the main
form because you haven't entered any data. If you click the "Log in"
button you get logged in. For some reason Return is submitting the
wrong form. It c
back.
> Who do I complain to?
Try the appropriate mailing list for your news client which looks like
it's Messenger Pro. However it could just be a problem with the news
feed.
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mai
to refer to a external link.
> Which is correct?
Firefox is correct because you might well have a subdirectory called
www. On the other hand www.etc in an email message will ordinarily be
an external link because a relative link is meaningless unless you
happen to be discus
hat is the correct behaviour?
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On 31 Aug 2011 Tim Hill wrote:
> In article , Richard Porter
> wrote:
>> I've just noticed that the tag inside a heading which
>> has a larger font size results in a smaller font, not a larger one. I
>> suspect that the +/-whatever is interpretted as relative to
On 5 Sep 2011 Jim Nagel wrote:
> on a page with several links, the colour of a link used to change to
> indicate it had already been visited -- which was a good idea.
> is it just my imagination, or has this ceased to work?
I think you're right. It has stopped working.
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> with r12793?
I'm seeing this on r12793 and on some other sites too. Sometimes it
just looks as though the tops of the letters on a line have been
chopped off but I guess it's the same problem. Please raise a bug
report.
There are similar problems on the W3C validator ho
re the minimum versions of the modules it
needs in the !Run file?
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