Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-28 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Friday 27 August 2004 12:52, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 03:31, Vincent Voois wrote: charlie wrote: snip It just got upset of Hoyt's remark about Kmail being too unstable. Kmail unstable? Outlook and Outlook Express are unstable; Kmail is just, er, quirky. I dont recall

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-28 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Friday 27 August 2004 13:38, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 27 August 2004 19:22, Vincent Voois wrote: snip Until I receive a new set of installation CDs from HP, her Windows XP stays disconnected. With the new installation disks at hand, I will install XP, Then Open Office, Mozilla, 5

Re: [newbie] Book recommendations?

2004-08-28 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Friday 27 August 2004 16:15, Peter Davis wrote: I know this is heresy, but I'd love to get recommendations for a book on becoming a Linux power user. It's heresy because I'm supposed to get everything I need from man pages, Google, or reading source code. However, frankly, I don't have the

Re: [newbie] urpmi gone!

2004-08-28 Thread Paul Smith
Stephen Kühn wrote: ...and I'll assume you've rebooted and double checked in the /usr/sbin directory for any remnants of urpmi and associated programs? Thanks, Stephen. Now, I am trying to do the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED] paulus]# urpmi.update Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1)

Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question

2004-08-28 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Friday 27 August 2004 16:22, BJ Tracy wrote: On Thursday 26 August 2004 05:58 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: Snip Thanks Hoyt, I'm still a little confused. By reading your partitions you have one large hard drive. I have Three (3) and one is working great. Yes one 120GB. Here is what I

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-28 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Saturday 28 August 2004 12:50, Hoyt Bailey wrote: snip That is one good reason there are others. Have you considered Win4linux or Crossover Office? /snip Win4Linux runs Win98 only, not XP. Crossover doesn't list other applications then the most common, such as Office. Derive is a very

Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question

2004-08-28 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Friday 27 August 2004 16:23, BJ Tracy wrote: On Thursday 26 August 2004 05:58 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: SNIP Thanks Hoyt but I'm still a little confused. From your response you have one large hard drive ( I think that is what I see ). Yes. I have three large hard drives - I is perfect and

Re: [newbie] External Drive

2004-08-28 Thread et
On Saturday 28 August 2004 00:38, John Wilson wrote: On August 27, 2004 08:17 pm, Marc wrote: I just tried to use a USB external drive in ML 10.0 My hopes were that ML would detect it and add a icon to my desktop like my card reader did. I was wrong, it was not that simple. Anyone have any

Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question

2004-08-28 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Friday 27 August 2004 16:26, BJ Tracy wrote: Hello All, Thanks Hoyt for responding to my questions. Not sure if you are going to see my responses, I tried to respond and Kmail went nuts and crashed the first time and rebooted itself the second time. What is up with that ?? I have

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-28 Thread PM
On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 15:26, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Win4Linux runs Win98 only, not XP. Crossover doesn't list other applications then the most common, such as Office. Derive is a very special beast. Never mind Hoyt, Lyvim, John and all you nice people. My daughters Windows box stays off

[newbie] Enlarging Mandrake's partition

2004-08-28 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All My computer has a dual boot (Mandrake 10 and Windows2000) and I would like to enlarge Mandrake's partition at the expense of reducing Windows2000 partition. So, I am here asking for advice about the safest and the fastest way of doing this operation. Thanks in advance, Paul

[newbie] Mozilla misbehaving

2004-08-28 Thread Len Lawrence
I have just hit an old problem with mozilla, having networked my laptop at last (10 months since receipt). The same version of mozilla (1.4) runs on my desktop with Mandrake Prosuite 9.2 and on the Sony VAIO laptop with Mandrake Download Edition 9.2. There is a problem with saving pages or

Re: [newbie] External Drive

2004-08-28 Thread John Wilson
On August 28, 2004 05:46 am, et wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 00:38, John Wilson wrote: On August 27, 2004 08:17 pm, Marc wrote: I just tried to use a USB external drive in ML 10.0 My hopes were that ML would detect it and add a icon to my desktop like my card reader did. I was

Re: [newbie] Can't get out of X Video Test in Installation

2004-08-28 Thread linuxnbe
Thanks Steve and Hoyt for your responses There seemed to be a problem with the generic S3 video card that I had. Even when the X Video test crashed the install (I left it for a half hour and still nothing!) a reboot of the system came up with a working Linux without the X Server. (since I

Re: [newbie] Enlarging Mandrake's partition

2004-08-28 Thread Brian Parish
On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 23:12, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All My computer has a dual boot (Mandrake 10 and Windows2000) and I would like to enlarge Mandrake's partition at the expense of reducing Windows2000 partition. So, I am here asking for advice about the safest and the fastest way of

[newbie] Update site for Mandrake 10 official

2004-08-28 Thread Unknown
Hi all, I'm visiting relatives in Hong Kong and have access to 10Mbps internet for a week or so. I've just downloaded Mandrake 10 official. Can anyone suggest where to get all the updates so I can burn them to cd before going back home to my 56k dialup? Also, have to get with MSWindows

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-28 Thread John Richard Smith
Kaj Haulrich wrote: replies within On Saturday 28 August 2004 12:21, John Richard Smith wrote: John, the HP box came with no CDs at all. Instead, the is an icon on the desktop, labelled create HP restore disks or some such. Being only human, I was curious and connected to the net first in

Re: [newbie] External Drive

2004-08-28 Thread et
On Saturday 28 August 2004 10:56, John Wilson wrote: On August 28, 2004 05:46 am, et wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 00:38, John Wilson wrote: On August 27, 2004 08:17 pm, Marc wrote: I just tried to use a USB external drive in ML 10.0 My hopes were that ML would detect it and add

Re: [newbie] i2c pooblems w/lm_sensors.

2004-08-28 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Saturday 28 August 2004 03:12, Thereidos wrote: W licie z pi, 27-08-2004, godz. 17:24, Hoyt Bailey pisze: snip [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# mount /sys mount: sysfs already mounted or /sys busy mount: according to mtab, none is already mounted on /sys snip Yeah, I had the same problem

Re: [newbie] Enlarging Mandrake's partition

2004-08-28 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Saturday 28 August 2004 08:12, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All My computer has a dual boot (Mandrake 10 and Windows2000) and I would like to enlarge Mandrake's partition at the expense of reducing Windows2000 partition. So, I am here asking for advice about the safest and the fastest way of

Re: [newbie] Update site for Mandrake 10 official

2004-08-28 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Saturday 28 August 2004 17:33, Unknown wrote: Hi all, I'm visiting relatives in Hong Kong and have access to 10Mbps internet for a week or so. I've just downloaded Mandrake 10 official. Can anyone suggest where to get all the updates so I can burn them to cd before going back home to

[newbie] need help with menu

2004-08-28 Thread Bobby
It's the newbness in me. lol have to check everything out to see what is what, and during this process I had changed my menu from the MDK default style to KDE style. How can I get the MDK menu style back. Because of this it also had altered my taskbar and it's back to the default layout. I had

Re: [newbie] Mozilla misbehaving

2004-08-28 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Saturday 28 August 2004 09:37, Len Lawrence wrote: I have just hit an old problem with mozilla, having networked my laptop at last (10 months since receipt). The same version of mozilla (1.4) runs on my desktop with Mandrake Prosuite 9.2 and on the Sony VAIO laptop with Mandrake Download

[newbie] problem playing DVD movies

2004-08-28 Thread Bobby
Before I had redone my computer switching my MDK to my 160gb hdd I was able to watch movies with totem, but now when a movie is in my DVD Rom I can't click on Play Movie in the menu when it comes up. How can I fix this problem? Bobby Want to

[newbie] rekall

2004-08-28 Thread jose usoz
Hello, in the site of Charles Edwars i found the Rekall (a database GUI for MySQL, PosgreSQL, etc...) compiled for Mandrake 10, but when i urpmi, i have this error: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jusoz]# urpmi rekall No se puede instalar algún paquete pedido: librekall2-2.2.0-0.1mdk.i586 (debido a que no se

Re: [newbie] Update site for Mandrake 10 official

2004-08-28 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Saturday 28 August 2004 10:33, Unknown wrote: Hi all, I'm visiting relatives in Hong Kong and have access to 10Mbps internet for a week or so. I've just downloaded Mandrake 10 official. Can anyone suggest where to get all the updates so I can burn them to cd before going back home to

Re: [newbie] problem playing DVD movies

2004-08-28 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Sunday 29 August 2004 01:55 pm, Bobby wrote: Before I had redone my computer switching my MDK to my 160gb hdd I was able to watch movies with totem, but now when a movie is in my DVD Rom I can't click on Play Movie in the menu when it comes up. How can I fix this problem? We probably need

[newbie] GZIP/GUNZIP

2004-08-28 Thread Steve
I just loaded Mandrake 10 and want to add new programs like the latest version of Open Office, AOL Instant Messenger and a couple of others so I downloaded those files. They are tar'd and gzipped. However, I do not seem to have a program in KDE to unzip them. When I right click on them it

Re: [newbie] GZIP/GUNZIP

2004-08-28 Thread jose usoz
I just loaded Mandrake 10 and want to add new programs like the latest version of Open Office, AOL Instant Messenger and a couple of others so I downloaded those files. They are tar'd and gzipped. However, I do not seem to have a program in KDE to unzip them. When I right click on them it

Re: [newbie] W32.Netsky - Linux really better protected than windows?

2004-08-28 Thread David E. Fox
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 02:31:40 +1000 Stephen Kühn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Save the attachment to your drive; un-tar/un-gzip it; cd into the virus directory; type sudo ./configure make make install; then run sudo /usr/bin/virus - sit back and watch your system fry. pedant viruses should

Re: [newbie] GZIP/GUNZIP

2004-08-28 Thread Eric Huff
They are tar'd and gzipped. However, I do not seem to have a program in KDE to unzip them. At the command line you can tar -xvzf filname.tgz or whatever it is called I made an alias for it since i use it a lot: alias untar='tar -xvzf' eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More:

Re: [newbie] GZIP/GUNZIP

2004-08-28 Thread Aron Smith
On Saturday 28 August 2004 11:17 am, Steve wrote: I just loaded Mandrake 10 and want to add new programs like the latest version of Open Office, AOL Instant Messenger and a couple of others so I downloaded those files. They are tar'd and gzipped. However, I do not seem to have a program in KDE

Re: [newbie] GZIP/GUNZIP

2004-08-28 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Saturday 28 August 2004 13:31, jose usoz wrote: I just loaded Mandrake 10 and want to add new programs like the latest version of Open Office, AOL Instant Messenger and a couple of others so I downloaded those files. They are tar'd and gzipped. However, I do not seem to have a program

[newbie] UltraATA 100 IDE

2004-08-28 Thread Mark Shaw
Are UltraATA 100 IDE drives backward-compatible to conventional IDE? I'm running a dual Windows XP / Linux-Mandrake box with an Asus A7V133 motherboard. I've decided to add a second HDD 1) to rip my CD collection to and 2) as backup media for my primary HDD. I'm finding some pretty good deals on

Re: [newbie] sp2 may have done something good

2004-08-28 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 15:31, John Wilson wrote: On August 27, 2004 04:28 am, Lanman wrote: seriously snipped! viciously and heartlessly snipped Now for my 2 cents,... Folks, if you think SP2 is gonna sway a lot of Microsoft users over to Linux, just wait until Microsoft releases

Re: [newbie] webmin upgrade resets https-access??

2004-08-28 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 18:48, Harald T ZIPKO wrote: After upgrading webmin to the actual version via webmin.com the hosts are not accessible via https anymore?? Not very safe, I guess... ;-) -- (o- Best regards //\ Harald T ZIPKO V/_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] No html-mails please Having

Re: [newbie] Mozilla misbehaving

2004-08-28 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 00:37, Len Lawrence wrote: I have just hit an old problem with mozilla, having networked my laptop at last (10 months since receipt). The same version of mozilla (1.4) runs on my desktop with Mandrake Prosuite 9.2 and on the Sony VAIO laptop with Mandrake Download

[newbie] mouse kboard dont work

2004-08-28 Thread ostap110
Hi i have an old keyboard gateway2000 (the one that has 12 'f' buttons onn the far left), and a relatively new simple laser logitech mouse. It's USB, but I use the P/S 2 adapter that it came with. Whenever I boot mandrake, the keyboard stops working. I tried fixing that by, going thourgh the

Re: [newbie] W32.Netsky - Linux really better protected than windows?

2004-08-28 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 04:35, David E. Fox wrote: On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 02:31:40 +1000 Stephen Kühn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Save the attachment to your drive; un-tar/un-gzip it; cd into the virus directory; type sudo ./configure make make install; then run sudo /usr/bin/virus - sit

Re: [newbie] mouse kboard dont work

2004-08-28 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 28 August 2004 03:12 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi i have an old keyboard gateway2000 (the one that has 12 'f' buttons onn the far left), and a relatively new simple laser logitech mouse. It's USB, but I use the P/S 2 adapter that it came with. Whenever I boot mandrake, the

Re: [newbie] Enlarging Mandrake's partition

2004-08-28 Thread Paul Smith
Brian Parish wrote: My computer has a dual boot (Mandrake 10 and Windows2000) and I would like to enlarge Mandrake's partition at the expense of reducing Windows2000 partition. So, I am here asking for advice about the safest and the fastest way of doing this operation. It depends on whether

[newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-28 Thread Greg Meyer
I figure this one ought to keep the conversation going for a while. I have been going through a Linux from Scratch build just for the learning experience, and something has just dawned on me. If a Linux system needs to be built from a host system, how did the first linux system get built? In

Re: [newbie] audio pop.

2004-08-28 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 16:31, jmb10 wrote: Sup folks. i'd say i'm new to linux, other might not, but i'll post here anyway. i have just installed Mandrake 10.0 and have not done any modification at all. i'm in gnome using the totem player, streaming some audio and here's my problem:

[newbie] Problem with MandrakeUpdate

2004-08-28 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All I removed all the media and, afterwards, I added all of them. Surprisingly, now, whenever I run MandrakeUpdate, all hdlists are updated at startup, which is not very convenient, specially if they are already updated. Any ideas to solve this? Thanks in advance, Paul

Re: [newbie] Enlarging Mandrake's partition

2004-08-28 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 05:21, Paul Smith wrote: Brian Parish wrote: My computer has a dual boot (Mandrake 10 and Windows2000) and I would like to enlarge Mandrake's partition at the expense of reducing Windows2000 partition. So, I am here asking for advice about the safest and the fastest

Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-28 Thread Charlie Mahan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 28 August 2004 13:23:01, Greg Meyer wrote: I figure this one ought to keep the conversation going for a while. I have been going through a Linux from Scratch build just for the learning experience, and something has just dawned on me.

Re: [newbie] Enlarging Mandrake's partition

2004-08-28 Thread Paul Smith
Stephen Kühn wrote: Thanks, Brian. The reason for enlarging my Linux partition is the fact that I have installed so many things that I am fearing that I am reaching the limit of my hard disk capacity. (My Linux partition has 8,5 GB.) I use MS Windows very, very, rarely and my MS Windows

Re: [newbie] Enlarging Mandrake's partition

2004-08-28 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 07:16, Paul Smith wrote: Stephen Kühn wrote: Look, you say your rarely use it; what DO you use it for? Best bet would be to defrag it, then use either diskdrake or Partition Magic to resize it; else you could whack another drive in there and balance out your stuff...

Re: [newbie] GZIP/GUNZIP

2004-08-28 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Saturday 28 August 2004 01:36 pm, Eric Huff wrote: They are tar'd and gzipped. However, I do not seem to have a program in KDE to unzip them. At the command line you can tar -xvzf filname.tgz or whatever it is called I made an alias for it since i use it a lot: alias untar='tar

Re: [newbie] GZIP/GUNZIP

2004-08-28 Thread Derek Jennings
On Saturday 28 August 2004 19:17, Steve wrote: I just loaded Mandrake 10 and want to add new programs like the latest version of Open Office, AOL Instant Messenger and a couple of others so I downloaded those files. They are tar'd and gzipped. However, I do not seem to have a program in KDE to

Re: [newbie] rekall

2004-08-28 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:56:57 +0200 jose usoz wrote: It seems the libxbsql is not present. Do you know the RPM for this file? The specific missing depend, devel(libxbsql), is provided by libxbsql0-devel-0.11-3mdk.i586.rpm. You will also need libxbsql0-0.11-3mdk.i586.rpm. Since you were using

Re: [newbie] sp2 may have done something good

2004-08-28 Thread Vincent Voois
Another improvement to computiing by those famous vendors of high quality vapourware...Steve Gates and Bill Balmer...or is it Bill Gates and Steve Balmer, I can never get that right :) Can't blame you, they're both fat and ugly. Want to buy

Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-28 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 28 August 2004 05:11 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 14:23, Greg Meyer wrote: I figure this one ought to keep the conversation going for a while. I have been going through a Linux from Scratch build just for the learning experience, and something has just

Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-28 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Saturday 28 August 2004 07:14 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 05:11 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 14:23, Greg Meyer wrote: I figure this one ought to keep the conversation going for a while. I have been going through a Linux from Scratch build

Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-28 Thread Russ Kepler
On Saturday 28 August 2004 05:14 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: But then how was the first UNIX system created? On a PDP-11, likely using RSTS or RSX-11. It's really a 'bootstrapping' process (called so because you're lifting yourself by your bootstraps). From bare iron you write a loader that loads

[newbie] permission changes

2004-08-28 Thread john
Hello After reinstalling md10, several folders now show locked. Security settings are standard and I 'm not sure what happened to change these folders. Any advice on how to change them to normal settings would be appreciated. Thanks John

Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-28 Thread Russ Kepler
On Saturday 28 August 2004 06:25 pm, Russ Kepler wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 05:14 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: But then how was the first UNIX system created? On a PDP-11, likely using RSTS or RSX-11. Damn - missed the model by this: much.

Re: [newbie] permission changes

2004-08-28 Thread Derek Jennings
On Sunday 29 August 2004 01:32, john wrote: Hello After reinstalling md10, several folders now show locked. Security settings are standard and I 'm not sure what happened to change these folders. Any advice on how to change them to normal settings would be appreciated. Thanks John When

Re: [newbie] Enlarging Mandrake's partition

2004-08-28 Thread Paul Smith
Stephen Kühn wrote: Look, you say your rarely use it; what DO you use it for? Best bet would be to defrag it, then use either diskdrake or Partition Magic to resize it; else you could whack another drive in there and balance out your stuff... Unfortunately, I have to use MS Windows for

[newbie] Problem with /dev/tty

2004-08-28 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All I have done some updates on my computer and now, at start-up, the script rc.sysinit tries to access to several tty, but the permission is denied. Afterwards, still during booting, IPMI fails. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Paul Want

Re: [newbie] Enlarging Mandrake's partition

2004-08-28 Thread Brian Parish
On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 06:03, Paul Smith wrote: Stephen Kühn wrote: Thanks, Brian. The reason for enlarging my Linux partition is the fact that I have installed so many things that I am fearing that I am reaching the limit of my hard disk capacity. (My Linux partition has 8,5 GB.) I use MS

Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-28 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Saturday 28 August 2004 18:14, Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 05:11 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 14:23, Greg Meyer wrote: I figure this one ought to keep the conversation going for a while. I have been going through a Linux from Scratch build

Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-28 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 28 August 2004 09:55 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 18:14, Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 05:11 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 14:23, Greg Meyer wrote: I figure this one ought to keep the conversation going for a while.

[newbie] Kwifimanager

2004-08-28 Thread Paul Kaplan
Kwifimanager (on kde 3.2.2/MDK10) defaults to monitoring the eth1 connection.  How can I get it to monitor a different connection (ath0)? TIA Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join

Re: [newbie] Problem with /dev/tty

2004-08-28 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 28 August 2004 09:03 pm, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All I have done some updates on my computer and now, at start-up, the script rc.sysinit tries to access to several tty, but the permission is denied. Afterwards, still during booting, IPMI fails. Any ideas? That error was coming up

Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-28 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 10:21, Carroll Grigsby wrote: According to Dennis Ritchie (and he should know), it began on a PDP7 using assembly language. (See http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/hist.html). A very interesting read, particularly for those who have ever labored in the fields of RD

Re: [newbie] Enlarging Mandrake's partition

2004-08-28 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 10:52, Paul Smith wrote: Stephen Kühn wrote: Look, you say your rarely use it; what DO you use it for? Best bet would be to defrag it, then use either diskdrake or Partition Magic to resize it; else you could whack another drive in there and balance out your stuff...

Re: [newbie] Kwifimanager

2004-08-28 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Saturday 28 August 2004 10:55 pm, Paul Kaplan wrote: Kwifimanager (on kde 3.2.2/MDK10) defaults to monitoring the eth1 connection. How can I get it to monitor a different connection (ath0)? TIA Paul Paul, this is from the web site: Autodetecting your device KWiFiManager needs to know

Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-28 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Sunday 29 August 2004 12:12 am, Stephen Khn wrote: On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 10:21, Carroll Grigsby wrote: According to Dennis Ritchie (and he should know), it began on a PDP7 using assembly language. (See http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/hist.html). A very interesting read,