Hey Group;
One of the few pleasure left, is avoid AM/FM Me Too stations and
listen to the variety of stations and music on Internet Radio.
( like www.sky.fm and smoothjazz ).
Concerning mandated Royalty rates for webcasters. Please consider
going to www.savenetradio.org/ and then take
During installation of Alpha5 I am asked if I wish to disable automatic login
in the following message:-
The automatic login feature is enabled for user ... Now you have added a new
user. Disable automatic login?
I checked Yast User Management and no second user exists?
* Please test the new 1 CD GNOME and KDE installation media and tell
us how to improve them. Please keep in mind the space constraints.
Tried the 1-CD KDE media on one laptop so far. I've tried the Installation options from
the menu (Installation, ACPI disabled, local APIC disabled,
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 10:20 -0400, James Tremblay wrote:
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 10:11 -0400, James Tremblay wrote:
* Please test the new 1 CD GNOME and KDE installation media and tell
us how to improve them. Please keep in mind the space constraints.
1) I have an IBM r51 laptop with
Hello,
I'm in need of the debug symbols for the rpm
/pub/opensuse/repositories/xorg73/openSUSE_10.2/xorg-x11-server-7.2-255.3.src.rpm
Is ther ea place or do I have to rebuild the package from source?
Thanks
Joerg
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* Keith Goggin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-17 16:38]:
During installation of Alpha5 I am asked if I wish to disable automatic login
in the following message:-
The automatic login feature is enabled for user ... Now you have added a new
user. Disable automatic login?
I checked Yast User
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 12:23:32AM +1000, Keith Goggin wrote:
usbcore: registered new interface driver usbfs
usbcore: registered new interface driver hub
usbcore: registered new device driver usb
ohci_hcd: 2006 August 04 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver
PCI: No IRQ known for
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 20:56 +0200, Clayton wrote:
During installation of Alpha5 I am asked if I wish to disable automatic
login
in the following message:-
The automatic login feature is enabled for user ... Now you have added a
new
user. Disable automatic login?
I checked Yast
On Monday 18 June 2007 03:47, Bernhard Walle wrote:
* Keith Goggin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-17 16:38]:
During installation of Alpha5 I am asked if I wish to disable automatic
login in the following message:-
The automatic login feature is enabled for user ... Now you have added a
new
On Monday 18 June 2007 05:50, Greg KH wrote:
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 12:23:32AM +1000, Keith Goggin wrote:
Eeek, that's not good at all (and is indicitive of not a USB problem,
but something else.)
Can you try out the -vanilla kernel and let us know if that fixes the
problem or not? If
Am Montag, 18. Juni 2007 schrieb Keith Goggin:
On Monday 18 June 2007 05:50, Greg KH wrote:
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 12:23:32AM +1000, Keith Goggin wrote:
Eeek, that's not good at all (and is indicitive of not a USB problem,
but something else.)
Can you try out the -vanilla kernel and
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 12:36:36PM +1000, Keith Goggin wrote:
What is your take on this, do you prefer testers to raise matters here first
or are you happy to just weed out the dud bug reports?
Well, think about it: If you fear that you could annoy the two or three people
that read the
On Saturday 16 June 2007 21:42, Kai Ponte wrote:
On Sat, June 16, 2007 12:29 pm, James Knott wrote:
...
No, TCP/IP doesn't run on OSI, but the OSI model is often used to
help understand other stacks.
Correct me if I'm wrong - and I know this is going way OT - but ALL
transport
Hi
I got beryl working but to get window borders I have to use:
Rendering path copy
Aquamarine doesn't give borders either.
This slows things down, glxgears gives 2000 under kde. That goes down to 11
with beryl.
Any ideas?
10.2 on amd 64, KDE, nvidia 6100 using native nvidia drivers only.
On Sunday 17 June 2007 07:44, Bob S wrote:
Hello SuSE people,
I recently added a KDE repo to my smart channels.(see thread smart channels
disabled) after having it disappear somehow. Did my update and tried to
upgrade. Got the following message. (partial)(excuse the wrapping please)
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Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Saturday 16 June 2007 14:49, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
Hi Ken Schneider
read:
The primary advantage to this technology is no need to repartition a
hard drive at all. A very welcome feature to win-noobs alike.
The
On 6/17/07, G T Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The concept of having a Linux on the same File System as Windows is not
new (it used to be an option with some distros). However where you start
hitting issues is with fundamental incompatibilities in how the two OSs
describe files and some basic
Firstly, thanks everyone for helpng me out here. I know now not to try
to mount the disk before formatting it.
Still having trouble.
In yast, I select /dev/evms/sdb and _create_ it then pop ups with a
window saying Create a Primary Partition on /dev/sda. I can't get it
to to say /dev/sdb.
Hi,
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 19:29:18 -0500
Clark Sann ... wrote:
Anyone have any idea how I can get a 100 MB Iomega parallel port drive
to work. I've connected it, have a zip drive in the drive, and
rebooted. AFAIK, the system did not recognize the drive. I've spent an
hour googling and am
Eberhard,
it is not easy.
On Saturday 16 June 2007 17:53, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Robert Best wrote:
rwb:~ ip a
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,1 mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue
..
2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,NOTRAILERS,UP,1 mtu 1500 qdisc
..
inet 192.168.1.65/24 brd 192.168.1.255
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The Saturday 2007-06-16 at 23:47 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:
How do I start a new
thread?
You did it right, it is my mail client that messed displayed threads.
No, he didn't, it is a hijack alright.
From: Clark Sann acsann@
References:
On Sunday 17 June 2007 00:24:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know if it is possible and if there is any documentation on how
to modify the live DVD image to add your own software?
You want to read http://en.opensuse.org/KIWI
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The Saturday 2007-06-16 at 19:29 -0500, Clark Sann wrote:
Anyone have any idea how I can get a 100 MB Iomega parallel port drive
to work. I've connected it, have a zip drive in the drive, and
rebooted. AFAIK, the system did not recognize the
Could someone please tell me if the Cyrus-IMAP RPM
(cyrus-imapd-2.2.13-24.2.rpm) is built with SQL (particularly MySQL)
support? If not, could someone please let me know how to do so :-)
Where do you want to use (my)sql in Cyrus-Imapd?
Hi Andreas
Thank you for your reply
I want to use
On Sunday 17 June 2007 13:14, Stuart Murray-Smith wrote:
Could someone please tell me if the Cyrus-IMAP RPM
(cyrus-imapd-2.2.13-24.2.rpm) is built with SQL (particularly MySQL)
support? If not, could someone please let me know how to do so :-)
Where do you want to use (my)sql in
Kai Ponte wrote:
On Sat, June 16, 2007 12:29 pm, James Knott wrote:
No, TCP/IP doesn't run on OSI, but the OSI model is often used to help
understand other stacks.
Correct me if I'm wrong - and I know this is going way OT - but ALL
transport protocols run in the OSI. AFAIK,
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 10:52 +0100, Robert Best wrote:
Eberhard,
it is not easy.
As in all things it is easy once you know how.
On Saturday 16 June 2007 17:53, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Robert Best wrote:
rwb:~ ip a
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,1 mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue
..
2:
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 08:16 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 10:52 +0100, Robert Best wrote:
Eberhard,
it is not easy.
As in all things it is easy once you know how.
On Saturday 16 June 2007 17:53, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Robert Best wrote:
rwb:~ ip a
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 10:09 +0100, Philip Kisloff wrote:
Firstly, thanks everyone for helpng me out here. I know now not to try
to mount the disk before formatting it.
Still having trouble.
In yast, I select /dev/evms/sdb and _create_ it then pop ups with a
window saying Create a Primary
On Sunday 17 June 2007 05:24, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Saturday 2007-06-16 at 19:29 -0500, Clark Sann wrote:
Anyone have any idea how I can get a 100 MB Iomega parallel port drive
to work. I've connected it, have a zip drive in the drive, and
rebooted. AFAIK, the system did not recognize
On Sunday 17 June 2007 04:09, Philip Kisloff wrote:
Firstly, thanks everyone for helpng me out here. I know now not to try
to mount the disk before formatting it.
Still having trouble.
In yast, I select /dev/evms/sdb and _create_ it then pop ups with a
window saying Create a Primary
On Sunday 17 June 2007 01:13, G T Smith wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
...
The concept of having a Linux on the same File System as Windows is
not new (it used to be an option with some distros). However where
you start hitting issues is with fundamental incompatibilities in how
the two
On Thursday 2007-05-24 11:35, Rainer Klier wrote:
Am Mittwoch, den 23.05.2007, 21:06 -0400 schrieb Ken Jennings:
Windows on my wife's Dell 4700C finally imploded. Since the opportunity
to fix it was presented, I added dual-booting Suse 10.2 after
reinstalling XP. It occurs to me now with
Has anyone succeeded in accessing bugzilla this weekend? I've been
trying all afternoon, and it's not really responding.
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Has anyone succeeded in accessing bugzilla this weekend? I've been
trying all afternoon, and it's not really responding.
Works fine right now.
The new design might need some getting used to.
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On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 05:21:38PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
Has anyone succeeded in accessing bugzilla this weekend? I've been
trying all afternoon, and it's not really responding.
Works fine right now.
Yeah, I just noticed - typical, the minute I ask the
Per Jessen wrote:
Has anyone succeeded in accessing bugzilla this weekend? I've been
trying all afternoon, and it's not really responding.
Most likely related to this message:
June 16, 2007 - Bugzilla 3.0
We have
Thanks again Andreas
Cyrus-Imapd does not use (my)sql. For the used Databases you can choose ie.
Berkeley-DB or skiplist, but not sql.
How to choose between BDB or skiplist?
Authentification Data - Usernames and Passwords are stored and handled with
Cyrus-SASL. There is a sql-Plugin for
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Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Sunday 17 June 2007 01:13, G T Smith wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
...
snip
Windows software tends to assume text files (e.g.) are in its format.
Much Linux software tolerates any of the three extant formats.
On Sunday 17 June 2007 09:39, G T Smith wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Sunday 17 June 2007 01:13, G T Smith wrote:
...
However, as another poster pointed out one is leaving the Linux side
fully open to Windows (in)security...
I'm pretty doubtful about that. In all likelihood, the
On Sunday 17 June 2007 13:58:53 Andreas Winkelmann wrote:
Cyrus-Imapd does not use (my)sql. For the used Databases you can choose ie.
Berkeley-DB or skiplist, but not sql.
What's wrong with LDAP? It is a database which is highly optimised for
reading, it seems to be best for authentication
It
On Fri June 15 2007 05:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
When I try to open an OOo-Writer document directly from Kontact's
KMail, I get the following message:
/tmp/kde-usr/Letter name with spaces.doc_[AIN1nb].doc does not
exist.
Only after saving it can the document be opened.
I get
This is the nub of the problem. I don't think my system is behaving as
expected and although I doubted myself, I'm beginning to believe there
is bug somewhere other than the user!
Before attach USB HDD
ls /dev/evms/sd*
ls: cannot access /dev/evms/sd*: No such file or directory
ls /dev/sd*
Hi Robert,
we will help you to get along. Don't despair
Robert Best wrote:
Eberhard,
it is not easy.
On Saturday 16 June 2007 17:53, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Robert Best wrote:
rwb:~ ip a
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,1 mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue
..
2: eth0:
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 20:34 +0200, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Hi Robert,
we will help you to get along. Don't despair
snip
Congratulations!!!
It's easy, isn't it?
No. Kenneth on this list learned me about the command ip a which is not
mentioned in O'Reilly's Nutshell or the SuSE
On 2007-06-16 10:31, Jonathan Arnold wrote:
Darryl Gregorash wrote:
snip
Make sure RC_LC_ALL is not set in /etc/sysconfig/language.
It is set to :
RC_LC_ALL=
Should I just comment out that line entirely?
That is OK, just leave it. Something else is happening, and it is
Hi, i'm trying to create an update repository using create_repo_for_patch.sh.
I'm testing with the zypper rpms and patches so I have the following files:
patch-zypper-2513.xml
zypper-0.6.13_0.6.15-6_0.1.i586.delta.rpm
zypper-0.6.15-0.1.i586.patch.rpm
zypper-0.6.15-0.1.i586.rpm
When I run:
Rajko M. wrote:
On Sunday 17 June 2007 05:24, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Saturday 2007-06-16 at 19:29 -0500, Clark Sann wrote:
Anyone have any idea how I can get a 100 MB Iomega parallel port drive
to work. I've connected it, have a zip drive in the drive, and
rebooted. AFAIK, the
* Benjamin Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06-16-07 23:36]:
[...]
*laugh* Windows people talk shit about Linux people and Linux people
talk shit about Mac users .. it SO reminds me of one sect of
Christians talking trash about another sect.
My, we're close to the edge today, Ben. He did
Kenneth Schneider wrote:
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 20:34 +0200, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Hi Robert,
we will help you to get along. Don't despair
snip
Congratulations!!!
It's easy, isn't it?
No. Kenneth on this list learned me about the command ip a which is not
mentioned in O'Reilly's
I titled this as Maybe OT because on my puter running FC6
I did a Smart upgrade (maybe it wasn't too smart) and now any
open GL apps (like Google Earth) will crash KDE and take
me back to a login screen. I think it is because of the new GL
not being compatible with my nVidia card driver, which is
any body have an idea why that dbus daemon drives cpu 100% and stays
their on
my new acer 2480 laptop with suse 10.2
and any word on madwfi for atheros ARBXB63
googled for two days haven't found much
thanks
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On Sunday 17 June 2007 12:39, Stevens wrote:
Please learn not hijack existing threads. Using your mailer's Reply
function (for the convenience of getting the To: address filled in for
you) followed by complete replacement of the Subject: is _not_ the way
to start a new topic. Use your mailer's
Kenneth Schneider wrote:
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 20:34 +0200, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Hi Robert,
we will help you to get along. Don't despair
snip
Congratulations!!!
It's easy, isn't it?
No. Kenneth on this list learned me about the command ip a which is not
mentioned in O'Reilly's
On Sat, Jun 16, Robert Lewis wrote:
I was out having lunch with a computer consultant
friend and he said that MS twisted the arms of
manufactures to put a bit in their bios so that only
VISTA would be recognized. He said on the net
you can find patches where you d/l the current bios
apply
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 18:52 +0100, Philip Kisloff wrote:
This is the nub of the problem. I don't think my system is behaving as
expected and although I doubted myself, I'm beginning to believe there
is bug somewhere other than the user!
That does happen. :)
Before attach USB HDD
ls
Do you happen to have passwordless logins set as well?
I believe it is set.
If KDE Just Click the Big K, select start a new session, and then
if needed, you can switch back to his session and shut it down.
That is in effect how I get the second session running. BUT what I
was asking
On Saturday June 16 2007 4:28:00 pm Alexey Eremenko wrote:
hi all !
I'm thinking - would it be possible to install openSUSE on NTFS
partition, to prevent repartitioning, so more Windows users will be
able to try out SUSE Linux ?
#1 reason this won't happen anytime soon is because Microsoft
I believe you can go into the YAST Administrator Settings, select Users
Groups, then select Expert options button and deselect the auto-login
box for the user that is being logged in.I believe that if *any*
user is selected for auto login, the system will try to ensure that user
is logged in
On 2007-06-17 15:39, joe wrote:
snip
IIRC on suse, ifconfig is just a wrapper around ip anyway.
Ip does a lot more than ifconfig, including setting up routing tables
and tunnelling, to name but two.
You might also wish to take a look at the two with a ls -l (they're
both in /sbin/), as well
Ken Jennings wrote:
I have VMware Server installed per the article and a key registered, and then
(re)discovered I did not originally finish installing everything for suse
10.2, so there are missing dependencies. That figures, since I lent all of
the 10.2 discs to a friend, so it could be
On Sunday 17 June 2007 16:19, S Glasoe wrote:
On Saturday June 16 2007 4:28:00 pm Alexey Eremenko wrote:
hi all !
I'm thinking - would it be possible to install openSUSE on NTFS
partition, to prevent repartitioning, so more Windows users will be
able to try out SUSE Linux ?
#1 reason
Philip Kisloff wrote:
Before attach USB HDD
ls /dev/evms/sd*
ls: cannot access /dev/evms/sd*: No such file or directory
ls /dev/sd*
/dev/sda /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sda3 /dev/sda5 /dev/sda6 /dev/sda7
After attach USB HDD
ls /dev/evms/sd*
/dev/evms/sdb
I don't understand why
On Jun 17, 2007, at 2:30 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Benjamin Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06-16-07 23:36]:
[...]
*laugh* Windows people talk shit about Linux people and Linux people
talk shit about Mac users .. it SO reminds me of one sect of
Christians talking trash about another sect.
Per Jessen wrote:
Has anyone succeeded in accessing bugzilla this weekend? I've been
trying all afternoon, and it's not really responding.
Submit a report to bugzilla. ;-)
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On Sunday 17 June 2007, Benjamin Rosenberg wrote:
Just me being me.
Who do you think you are, Manny?
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On Sunday 17 June 2007 16:12, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Sunday 17 June 2007 12:39, Stevens wrote:
Please learn not hijack existing threads. Using your mailer's Reply
function (for the convenience of getting the To: address filled in for
you) followed by complete replacement of the Subject:
* Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06-17-07 21:12]:
On Sunday 17 June 2007 16:12, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Sunday 17 June 2007 12:39, Stevens wrote:
Please learn not hijack existing threads. Using your mailer's Reply
function (for the convenience of getting the To: address filled in for
On Sunday 17 June 2007 18:11, Stevens wrote:
On Sunday 17 June 2007 16:12, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Sunday 17 June 2007 12:39, Stevens wrote:
Please learn not hijack existing threads. Using your mailer's Reply
function (for the convenience of getting the To: address filled in
for you)
OK, Patrick, and others, let me take one last stab at this.
First, Schultz said:
Please learn not hijack existing threads. Using your mailer's Reply
function (for the convenience of getting the To: address filled in for
you) followed by complete replacement of the Subject: is _not_ the way
James Knott wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
Has anyone succeeded in accessing bugzilla this weekend? I've been
trying all afternoon, and it's not really responding.
Submit a report to bugzilla. ;-)
They had a notice up on the web site all week long prior to the weekend
about
Hmmm!
It appears the hijacked thread has been hijacked yet again.
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On Sunday 17 June 2007 18:54, Stevens wrote:
OK, Patrick, and others, let me take one last stab at this.
First, Schultz said:
There is no 't' in my surname. And I do not like to be referred to by my
family name alone.
Please learn not hijack existing threads. Using your mailer's Reply
On Sunday 17 June 2007 19:21, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
Philip Kisloff wrote:
Before attach USB HDD
ls /dev/evms/sd*
ls: cannot access /dev/evms/sd*: No such file or directory
ls /dev/sd*
/dev/sda /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sda3 /dev/sda5 /dev/sda6
/dev/sda7
After attach USB
Hi,
I have the /home on its own partition, but I need to move it to the root
partition without losing data, which is the safest way to do that? My
root partition is about 20G and the /home partition is about 8G and less
than 1G is used because I store my data in a different partition.
openSUSE
Thank you all for your support and I am very pleased
that mostly all user have no issues with KB3...
I would like someone to try something out for me on
another KB3 install that has no problems.
This is going to sound really weird please bear with me
1. Can someone try to burn a Data CD and
On Sunday 17 June 2007 14:23, Clark Sann wrote:
Rajko M. wrote:
On Sunday 17 June 2007 05:24, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Saturday 2007-06-16 at 19:29 -0500, Clark Sann wrote:
Anyone have any idea how I can get a 100 MB Iomega parallel port drive
to work. I've connected it, have a zip drive
Hi,
I have the /home on its own partition, but I need to move it to the root
partition without losing data,
I am not an expert but I was thinking if the following should work
1. To be on the safe side get out of x (ex: init 3)
2. Recursive copy /home to a new directory under root (ex:
On Sunday 17 June 2007 22:11, Fernando Costa wrote:
Hi,
I have the /home on its own partition, but I need to move it to the root
partition without losing data, which is the safest way to do that? My
root partition is about 20G and the /home partition is about 8G and less
than 1G is used
#1 reason this won't happen anytime soon is because Microsoft does _not_
publish the specifications for NTFS and would only share them with companies
that are willing to pay extremely large amounts of money on a continuing
basis with all kinds of Non-Disclosure Agreements (NDAs) in place. These
My ISP is having problems resolving DNS since we all
went on to DSLAM - Its lightning fast but this has
created problems for the ISP not being quick enough to
resolve an enquiry - I am getting a lot of time out
from my ISP. My own site which is hosted by my ISP
represents this same issue.
For
OK, so now that I have been thoroughly chastised for violating
Proper Procedures on this list AND given a tutorial on list
threading, how about someone stepping up to the plate and
trying to address the original problem, which is how to
undo a Smart upgrade to open GL? At least, that is what
I
On Sunday 17 June 2007 03:33, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 17 June 2007 07:44, Bob S wrote:
Hello SuSE people,
I recently added a KDE repo to my smart channels.(see thread smart
channels disabled) after having it disappear somehow. Did my update and
tried to upgrade. Got the
On Sunday 17 June 2007 23:01, Rajko M. wrote:
init 3
mkdir home1
cp home home1
cp -R /home/* home1
umount /home
mv home1 home
mv /home1/* /home
It is too late to make no mistakes :-(
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On Sunday 17 June 2007 22:45, Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:
Hi,
I have the /home on its own partition, but I need to move it to the root
partition without losing data,
I am not an expert but I was thinking if the following should work
1. To be on the safe side get out of x (ex: init 3)
2.
On Mon, 18 Jun, 2007 at 00:01:17 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:
On Sunday 17 June 2007 23:01, Rajko M. wrote:
init 3
mkdir home1
cp home home1
cp -R /home/* home1
umount /home
mv home1 home
mv /home1/* /home
It is too late to make no mistakes :-(
I'd do it the
On Sunday 17 June 2007 03:27:47 Alvaro Tello wrote:
Hola comunidad,
This is an English list where most people don't understand Spanish. So please
post in English or do you know already about the opensuse-es mailing list?
interesados en apoyar las traducciones del wiki a español y hace un
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