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2004-05-12 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
I had the same feeling Mary. marilyn - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: Is this link a legitimate one? I would hate to connect find I got a virus site. MM

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: home alone.

2004-05-12 Thread Mary Doyle
Dear Jessica I have been visiting a woman recently who had an intrauterine death at term, in January this year. I also saw her antenatally when all was well and felt shocked, sad and 'guilty' that this baby had died unexpectantly. The hardest thing for her ( and me) was that no cause for the FDIU

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2004-05-12 Thread Shelley
DO NOT SEND ME ANY MORE EMAILS - I REPEAT - DO NOT DARE - Original Message - From: BIGPOND To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 8:32 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE: http://drs.yahoo.com/acegraphics.com.au/NEWS-- This mailing list is

Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: Reply to Mary Murphy

2004-05-12 Thread Rachel Rogers
I opened this file, Mary - and you were correct, it is not from a legitimate site - so dont open anyone if you get it Rachel - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE

Re: [ozmidwifery] re- ABC radio

2004-04-22 Thread Nicole Christensen
will check it out - thanks Jen - Original Message - From: Jen Semple To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re- ABC radio I've just looked to see if there's a transcript... I can only find a summary

Re: [ozmidwifery] re- ABC radio

2004-04-21 Thread Jan Robinson
I did the same as you Nicole until I woke up that the discussion on John Howard had nothing to do with birth. The frequency given on the notice was incorrect - it was for local ABC programs in the east. Had to go down into the 500s to get Radio National. This meant I also missed the first ten

Re: [ozmidwifery] re- ABC radio

2004-04-21 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
suggested. marilyn From: Jan Robinson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re- ABC radio I did the same as you Nicole until I woke up that the discussion on John Howard had nothing to do with birth. The frequency given

Re: [ozmidwifery] re- ABC radio

2004-04-21 Thread Jen Semple
I'm in Melbourne heard it on Radio National, Tuesday night from 6-7pm. Thought it was quite good. JenNicole Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did the birth discussion go ahead last night I listened on and off between6 - 7 pm (then had to go out) - and didn't hear anything in that

Re: [ozmidwifery] re- ABC radio

2004-04-21 Thread Jen Semple
I've just looked to see if there's a transcript... I can only find a summary a "listen" icon (not sure if that's the whole program or just a snippet. Here's the link: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/austback/index/default.htm http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/austback/stories/s1090397.htm Nicole

Re: [ozmidwifery] re beautiful birth

2004-04-15 Thread Mary Murphy
As others have said, my experience has been that most women are active at sometime and then settle down into a kneeling position, very rarely lying for more that a few minutes at a time. However, I have had several women feel much better lying down for most of the labour. I have seen this

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: OP stats...interesting

2004-04-14 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Hi Jo: I never cease to be amazed at how this 1cm/hour or Freidman's Curve continues to be applied rigorously to women in labour. Coming from the homebirth environment to the hospital one, at least to my mindit is hurdle often before women. As a midwifery student this view of labour was

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: OP stats...interesting

2004-04-14 Thread Julie Clarke
F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marilyn Kleidon Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2004 8:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: OP stats

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Approved

2004-04-11 Thread Sylvia Boutsalis
Your file contained a virus and was deleted. Please resend a clean copy sylvia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2004 4:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: Approved Please read

Re: [ozmidwifery] re. sleep article

2004-04-03 Thread Cheryl LHK
little limbs. Cheryl From: Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re. sleep article Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 06:42:06 -0800 I would like to say at the opening that I totally support co-sleeping and actively do

Re: [ozmidwifery] re. sleep article

2004-04-01 Thread Nicole Christensen
- Original Message - From: Melinda Whyman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re. sleep article Pinky - I can totally relate to that "green" light experience :) You know you are seriously

Re: [ozmidwifery] re. sleep article

2004-04-01 Thread Nicole Christensen
of water! cheers, Nicole - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re. sleep article Hear! Hear! Marilyn. I would also like to add that an article showing so many sleep

Re: [ozmidwifery] re. sleep article

2004-03-31 Thread Melinda Whyman
As a co-sleeping mumwho has just joined this list recently - I must say I'm enjoyingthi sleepthread immensly! Not sure if I'm wandering a little too far off the path - but I thought I'd post this question I've been pondering of late.. Whilst many of us agree on the benefits of

Re: [ozmidwifery] re. sleep article

2004-03-31 Thread Jodie Miller
What I'm wondering is this.is this fatigue in direct response to their co-sleeping r'ship with their child? Tough one. All my kids have been poor sleepers from the outset and regular night-wakers. My first was in a cot in a neighbouring room - I truly was a walking zombie then. My

Re: [ozmidwifery] re. sleep article

2004-03-31 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 6:45 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re. sleep article As a co-sleeping mumwho has just joined this list recently - I must say I'm enjoyingthi sleepthread immensly! Not sure if I'm wandering a little too far off the pa

Re: [ozmidwifery] re. sleep article

2004-03-31 Thread Pinky McKay
an active way. Even if a child plays with lego or has story time with mum, I am sure it helps everyones moods and concentration. - Original Message - From: Marilyn Kleidon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:42 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re.

Re: [ozmidwifery] re. sleep article

2004-03-31 Thread Melinda Whyman
Naturally - Respecting our children and our Earth~Phone: +61 3 9756 0464 - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re. sleep article Hear! Hear! Marilyn. I would also l

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re birth stats

2004-03-19 Thread Anne Clarke
Dear Pinky, You can get on the Victorian Health Website and go to perinatal stats and they usually have this info. I would give you the link only my computer is playing up, you will have to use your search engine - sorry. Regards, Anne Clarke Brisbane - Original Message -

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re birth stats

2004-03-18 Thread Irene Ellis
Perinatal Data Collection Unit Tel 1300 858 505 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers Irene Irene Ellis Dept Nursing Midwifery RMIT University Bundoora 3083 Tel: 9925 7730 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/19/04 01:31pm Hi, Can anyone tell me how many babies are born in private hospitals in melbourne each year?

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re birth stats

2004-03-18 Thread Pinky McKay
Thanks Ann and Irene, Pinky - Original Message - From: Irene Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re birth stats Perinatal Data Collection Unit Tel 1300 858 505 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers Irene Irene Ellis

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: meeting

2004-03-17 Thread Susan Cudlipp
OOOPs, sorry mid list - this was intended for my Fragile X support group list - must have hit the wrong button - apologies! Sue - Original Message - From: Susan Cudlipp To: Jude Douyere Cc: ace graphics Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 2:10 PM Subject:

Re: [ozmidwifery] re co-sleeping

2004-03-05 Thread Jen Semple
Hi Pinky, I missed the show, but I found the transcript (love the ABC) http://www.abc.net.au/gnt/future/Transcripts/s1058920.htm It looks like it came off quite well... sounds like everyone (inc. the doc that runs the sleep school) made it clear that they support co-sleeping. Don't know about

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?

2004-02-25 Thread Alphia Possamai-Inesedy
Oh I realize the difference - I just found it kind of strange that with the independent midwives unable to access indemnity coverage and unable to get the Federal government to cover them under medicare that insurance companies provide their clientele with any form of reimbursements for

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?

2004-02-24 Thread Sally Westbury
] On Behalf Of Marilyn Kleidon Sent: Wednesday, 25 February 2004 10:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives? Alphia: I think these are different insurance companies: some people have private health insurance

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?

2004-02-23 Thread Sally Westbury
HBF in Western Australia refund $1400 for a homebirth or a private midwife in a public hospital. Sally Westbury -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Bourne Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2004 7:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery]

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?

2004-02-23 Thread Jo Bourne
speaking about insurance, I just called our previous insurer to see if they would match Australian Unity before changing over (they pay a maximum of $500). They wouldn't because Its a lesser level of care than you would receive in hospital to have a home birth. I couldn't help myself, I

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?

2004-02-23 Thread Jen Semple
A few others that I've heard of... A fabulous member of MC employee of the RAAF (air force) in Vic has just negotiated to have MIPP services included in the RAAF health insurance policy (both for currently employeed former employees). I would assume that would be nationally. Not sure whether

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?

2004-02-23 Thread Alphia Possamai-Inesedy
Thanks everyone - I will chase all of this up. Take care Alphia At 10:30 AM 24/02/2004, you wrote: I just sent a letter to australian unity asking what cover they would give me for a home birth. They give about $640 for a private midwife in hospital birth situation (some for prenantal, some for

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?

2004-02-23 Thread Larry Megan
We are with Defence Health and they cover midwifery, so many pre and post natal visits and X amount for birth, cant remember the actual payout though. My understanding is that its not uncommon for the midwife to arrange the costs on paper so as to maximise pay outs. I have done the ring

Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: Location, location, location

2004-02-13 Thread Kirsten Blacker
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: Location, location, location Hi Kirsten My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I would really appreciate any info. We've never been to Oz, so it's really a blind move for us and the more we can

Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: Location, location, location

2004-02-09 Thread Jo Perks
Hi Karen I just spent a lovely week in a place called Mandurah which is about 40 minutes drive from Perth. Its a sea side town and there are lots of young families there. Truly beautiful place Jo Perks - Original Message - From: Karen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday,

Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: Location, location, location

2004-02-09 Thread Denise Hynd
: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: Location, location, location Hi Karen I just spent a lovely week in a place called Mandurah which is about 40 minutes drive from Perth. Its a sea side town and there are lots of young families there. Truly beautiful place Jo Perks - Original

Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: Location, location, location

2004-02-08 Thread Karen
X X X X X X X - Original Message - From: Kirsten Blacker To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: Location, location, location Karen what is your email, we can talk about this off list Kirsten Blacker

Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: Location, location, location

2004-02-08 Thread Karen
anks Kind Regards Karen X X X X X X X X - Original Message - From: Debbie Slater To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: Location, location, location Karen We emigrated to Perth just over 3 ye

Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: Location, location, location

2004-02-07 Thread Kirsten Blacker
Karen what is your email, we can talk about this off list Kirsten Blacker Perth - Original Message - From: Karen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 3:01 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE: Location, location, location Dear Everyone

RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: Location, location, location

2004-02-07 Thread Sally Westbury
I moved to Freo from near Melbourne 2 years ago and I love it!! Freo is great if you like older houses and a mish mash of interesting artistic, hippy, free thinking, diverse people. There was originally a large Italian migrant community here and there I still a good village feel to it.

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Painful breasts

2004-02-05 Thread denise boscheinen
Hi i have heard of this happening when women have a thrush infection did she have any nipple trauma initially deniseb From: FrancisDierdreBowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: Painful breasts Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 01:00:40 +1000 Hi

Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: Drugs and Pregnancy

2004-02-04 Thread Kirsten Blacker
Hi Karen, KEMH, the teaching maternity hospital in Perth has a Chemical Dependency Clinic specifically for mothers with drug use problems to be cared for during pregnancy. I'm not sure who runs it these days but I think it would be ideal for you Kirsten Blacker - Original Message

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Painful breasts

2004-02-04 Thread FrancisDierdreBowman
No the pain is simply down the side of her L breast. There are no symptoms of mastitus or any other indicators of breast problems that are familiar to me. This is her 4 the baby and she has breast feed all of them. Her baby is currently 6 weeks old and she is tandem feeding a 21 month old. Hope

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re virus

2003-11-16 Thread Wayne and Caroline McCullough
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denise HyndSent: Sunday, 16 November 2003 11:34 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re virus There is also one from Wayne Carol But not their email or at least aabouncing email Virus are coming now without

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re virus

2003-11-16 Thread *G and S*
Thanks Mary, Seems as though I haven't received anything suspect yet. Have yet to ask dh what detecting program we've got installed. Hope it's a good one though! Sonia W. My virus checker detects it and tells me it is there and deals with it, but other things to look out for

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re virus

2003-11-15 Thread Debbie Slater
Diane and all Very often email virus work by sending out emails with the virus attached, using someone elses email address from the infected person's address book. So, while the email may have looked like it came from Diane, it will actually have comevia someone else who had Diane in

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re virus

2003-11-15 Thread *G and S*
Can someone let me know what to look out for. Does the virus come in the form of an attachment? How can I tell if I've received it? TIA, Sonia W.

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re virus

2003-11-15 Thread Mary Murphy
ng program is vital. I have Norton "04. Good luck, MM - Original Message - From: *G and S* To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 5:43 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re virus Can someone let me know what to look out for. Does t

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re virus

2003-11-15 Thread Denise Hynd
There is also one from Wayne Carol But not their email or at least aabouncing email Virus are coming now without attachments!!Denise Hynd - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: list Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 10:38 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re virus

2003-11-15 Thread Mary Murphy
Yes, I got that one from Wayne Carol. The incomplete message line gave it away. My virus detector didn't delete it, but I did. MM - Original Message - From: Denise Hynd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re virus

2003-11-15 Thread Diane Gardner
I know the same way. My antivirus program detects it. Diane

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:

2003-10-02 Thread Sharon Bartsch
...OKwe are at work together at the moment..but as you asked. Cheers Sharon... my email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: JoFromOz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 08:47:22 +0800 Sharon! Email

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2003-09-28 Thread JoFromOz
Sharon! Email me! Jo ;) Sharon Bartsch wrote: I wish to sign off the list please please sending the request through the prescribed channel has failed on numerous occaisions.. From: peter hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: presentation - words of wisdom?

2003-09-17 Thread Nola Aicken
intervention and no epidural access. Nola - Original Message - From: Cheryl LHK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: presentation - words of wisdom? Nola, I think it's possible to have an active birth

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: presentation - words of wisdom?

2003-09-16 Thread Cheryl LHK
Nola, I think it's possible to have an active birth in the public system, but certainly becoming a rarity, especially I would suggest in the larger regional and metropolitan hospitals. I think for the woman and her support system, several things need to occur: 1. The woman needs to be ' in

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: presentation - words of wisdom?

2003-09-16 Thread Sandra J. Eales
: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: presentation - words of wisdom? I think thats it it has to come from the woman ie I want an active birth. ie Thanks fior that information but at the moment I dont want whatever ie arm ctg Yes its possible in a pu

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: presentation - words of wisdom?

2003-09-15 Thread jireland
I think thats it it has to come from the woman ie I want an active birth. ie Thanks fior that information but at the moment I dont want whatever ie arm ctg Yes its possible in a public hospital to be in charge as long as the midwife supports the woman and thats the problem to often the mw

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: presentation - words of wisdom?

2003-09-15 Thread Judy Chapman
Hi Nola, I guess it depends on where you are. The woman (primigravida) I birthed with at 0615 today wanted an epidural but being in a small hospital and one of our GP anaesthetists being on leave it was not going to happen so she was told that if she really wanted it she would be transferred. She

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: induction/augmentation following SROM

2003-09-07 Thread Debby M
Hi Edwina, Try these: http://www.radmid.demon.co.uk/prom.htm http://www.collegeofmidwives.org/legal_legislative01/OBnews%20induction%20vs%20expt%20mang%20Oct01.html Must admit I love the old adage "if it ain't broke don't fix it" therefore based on the info above why not leave them 24hrs and see

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: induction/augmentation following SROM

2003-09-07 Thread Leigh Evans
Edwina, There is interesting info on theNational Institute for Clinical Excellence (NICE) site. I think this is like our NHMRC but in the UK. Leigh - Original Message - From: Vance Edwina To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:46 PM

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: induction/augmentation following SROM

2003-09-07 Thread Ward, Birthing Centre Midwives
-- From: Leigh Evans[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 7 September 2003 19:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: induction/augmentation following SROM Edwina, There is interesting info on theNational Institute for Clinical Excellence (NICE

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: induction/augmentation following SROM

2003-09-05 Thread Wayne and Caroline McCullough
Title: Message Hi Edwina, The book by Henci Goer "The Thinking Woman's Guide to a Better Birth" has excellent research-based info on induction/augmentation and SROM. It was my bible when dealing with my obstetrician. It also explains the rationale behind why doctors prefer to augment (the

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re co-sleping

2003-07-23 Thread Wade
, 2003 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re co-sleping late this week or next week. They are doing the mums tomorrow and putting the cameras in tomorrow night. I can see the promos now - they asked me doesnt it play havoc with your sex life? -I asked (as I always did when I had

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re co-sleping

2003-07-22 Thread Cheryl LHK
It must be co-sleeping week for you Pinky! Your article in Practical Parenting about this very subject was excellent. Just hear the howls of protest from those 'modern mum's' that everything has to be controlled - included where, when and how the baby sleeps... ... a lot of my mum's and

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re co-sleping

2003-07-22 Thread Pinky McKay
machine - not at all delicious! Pinky Pinky - Original Message - From: Cheryl LHK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re co-sleping It must be co-sleeping week for you Pinky! Your article in Practical Parenting about

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re co-sleping

2003-07-21 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear Pinky Can you please email me off list Have some colleagues who are having "words" with the US controlled crying" brigade and thought you may be of some support as it is streessing them Thank you Denise Hynd [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re co-sleping

2003-07-21 Thread JoFromOz
Pinky, I am very interested in co-sleeping... I can't wait to see the ACA segment. Do you know when they will air it? Thanks, Jo

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re co-sleping

2003-07-21 Thread Pinky McKay
- Original Message - From: JoFromOz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re co-sleping Pinky, I am very interested in co-sleeping... I can't wait to see the ACA segment. Do you know when they will air

Re: [ozmidwifery] re midwifery antenatal care

2003-07-14 Thread TinaPettigrew
In a message dated 14/07/03 3:47:24 PM AUS Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Julie, I am after some references supporting that women gain from having antenatal care by midwives in conjunction with GP's along the lines of what you have said, thanks pete malavisi. Hello Pete, of

RE: [ozmidwifery] re midwifery antenatal care

2003-07-13 Thread Julie Clarke
Hi Pete Its my opinion that women are better off with pure midwifery care rather than watered down GP shared care. I cant give you any references I have based my opinion on the comments, thoughts and feelings of the women in my cbe sessions. Hug Julie Julie Clarke Childbirth

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: A home for a homebirth

2003-07-02 Thread Trudie de keijzer
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Re: [ozmidwifery] re extending the breast

2003-06-24 Thread Pinky McKay
Hi all, Actually jo, You are possibly the most apropriate mum and Bethany you would be a great expert' and its all pretty fresh for you too. Kirsten I will keep your email re your sister on file. I think tandem nursing - (did it myself) is an article on its own -or part of a longer article than

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth

2003-06-16 Thread Vance Edwina
Jan, Can I join the bandwagon and ask for a copy of your electronic birthplan too please? Cheers, Edwina -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth

2003-06-15 Thread Lyn Cottee
Sent: Saturday, 14 June 2003 6:11 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth JAN, A COPY FOR ME TOO [EMAIL PROTECTED] love Bethany -Original Message- From: Ross W Timbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 14 June 2003 08:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth

2003-06-14 Thread Neretlis, Bethany
JAN, A COPY FOR ME TOO [EMAIL PROTECTED] love Bethany -Original Message- From: Ross W Timbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 14 June 2003 08:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth Jan, Could I have a copy of your birth plan too please. Jacky

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Episiotomy

2003-06-14 Thread Denise Hynd
Macfarlane To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Episiotomy Oh Denise, so beautifully asked - without a trace of rancour or cynicism! Physiological third stage is one of my more obvious irritations - the one I probably become

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Episiotomy

2003-06-13 Thread Lesley Kuliukas
PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Episiotomy I am confused by this discussion so hoping for some clarification! My understanding of the results of the HOOP trial was that it favoured the use of Hands On - a finding that the midwives in the UK

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Episiotomy

2003-06-13 Thread Andrea Robertson
Hi Marilyn, Mary et al, The interesting thing about this trial was that all the women are in the reclining position - the training video used to show midwives taking part how they were to participate clearly showed this. When a woman is lying back in the semi sitting or lithotomy position,

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Episiotomy

2003-06-13 Thread Andrea Robertson
Nikki wrote: After reading the HOOP trial I was frustrated that they did not seem to provide enough information to determine why it was that the hands poised group had a significantly higher rate of manual removal of placenta. I can't think of any reason why this would be so - unless the

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Episiotomy

2003-06-13 Thread Nikki Macfarlane
Thanks for the comments Andrea. Your comments are certainly borne up by our experiences here in Singapore as well. Whilst we only have a small sample to use as an example (about 90 births so far) they are for the most part natural, vaginal births with hands poised, in positions chosen by the women

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth

2003-06-13 Thread Jan Robinson
Hi Lyle You can count me in too if you can get me there! The closest I have ever been to Pitcairn is Norfolk and that's a long way from you. However, the reality is that you will probably be unassisted except for the woman's immediate family and the priority now would be to prepare them all for

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re Episiotomy

2003-06-13 Thread Ward, Birthing Centre Midwives
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 15 June 2003 00:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Episiotomy Dear Andrea: I think this issue (mother's birth position) as well as a lot of other information is intended to be included by the study being

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth

2003-06-13 Thread Mary Murphy
Jan wrote to Lyle:" I can send you a copy of a really good birth plan electronically that willguide you in your discussion with this woman if you would like it." Jan, How about sharing this birth plan with all of us? Cheers, MM

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth

2003-06-13 Thread Ross W Timbs
Jan, Could I have a copy of your birth plan too please. Jacky [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jan Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth Hi Lyle You can count me in too if you can

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Episiotomy

2003-06-13 Thread Jayne
Speaking from my own birth experiences (3), I support 'hands on' - my OWN hands! This came so naturally - I just did it. Iremember with the last birth and I felt a ripple thru the water and I presumed the midwife was going to put a hand 'there', I yelled at her "DON'T TOUCH"! Jayne

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Episiotomy

2003-06-13 Thread Denise Hynd
- From: Nikki Macfarlane To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 4:02 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Episiotomy Thanks for the clarification Lesley and Marilyn. The HOOP trial conclusions was what I had read in MIDIRs some time ago and had assumed

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Episiotomy

2003-06-13 Thread Nikki Macfarlane
Childbirth Internationalwww.childbirthinternational.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Distance training for the world's childbirth educators and doulas - Original Message - From: Denise Hynd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Episiotomy

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Episiotomy

2003-06-12 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Thank you Mary. I have wondered why I wasn't getting my medscape newsletter and now i know : they still had my old email address. This will indeed be an interesting study. It has been interesting to me how "hands off" has been adopted by Australian midwives. I personally didn't think the

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Episiotomy

2003-06-12 Thread Nikki Macfarlane
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Distance training for the world's childbirth educators and doulas - Original Message - From: Marilyn Kleidon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 12:43 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Episiotomy Actually Mary, if you want

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Episiotomy

2003-06-12 Thread Mary Murphy
Marilyn wrote "..to see if it leads to practice change. By this I mean if the study supports "hands off", then will US midwives change their practice? And if it supports "hands on" will Australian and Uk midwives change theirs? Or will we have to do a repeat study here? Possibly the result

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Side-by-Side Conference

2003-05-31 Thread Janet Caulfield
Dear List , To those arranging the conference a video would be a wonderful thing to have as i am unable to attend i would certainly purchase one. Janet --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.484 / Virus Database: 282 -

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Side-by-Side Conference

2003-05-30 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
yes, yes I second that and would definetly buy a copy. marilyn - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:00 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: Side-by-Side Conference Lynne, This would make a REALLY good video. Is there any

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Side-by-Side Conference

2003-05-30 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Have you thought of teleconferencing it or is it too late for that?? marilyn - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:00 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: Side-by-Side Conference Lynne, This would make a REALLY good video.

Re: [ozmidwifery] re (ozmidwifery) Contact details

2003-05-28 Thread Margie Perkins
Emma Baldock is away on leave for several weeks ( I think) Margie At Tue, 27 May 2003 20:40:44 +0800, Laraine Hood ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, Emma Baldock (ACMI), could you please contact me offline. Thanks, Laraine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) m)=20

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: bachelor of midwifery

2003-05-28 Thread Margie Perkins
Jenny Browne is no longer at Canberra Uni - moved to Newcastle at beginning of the year. All is quiet at Canberra Uni - rushing into the future ever so slowly. Margie At Tue, 27 May 2003 17:42:07 +1000, nataliedash ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Thanks Robin, Yes Lin Lock is at UTS, but Nicky

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: KEMH Inquiry

2003-05-27 Thread Mary Murphy
I am unable to connect to this site. Has anyone else managed it? I would really like to read it if anyone downloaded it and can email it to me at : [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Thanks MM - Original Message - From: "Carol Thorogood" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: article in the Advertiser

2003-04-05 Thread Sandra J. Eales
Good on you Tania. We need to take every opportunity to get the correct information out there. Sandra - Original Message - From: Tom, Tania and Sam Smallwood To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 8:53 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] re: article in the

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: article in the Advertiser

2003-04-03 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear Tania Sometimes it seems like we are on another planet ! Sth Australia as you point out has a World's Best Practice model of women-centred care but the health bureacracy funds maintainance of the status quo in the name of helping women? If letters like yours and related actions keep

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: article in the Advertiser

2003-04-03 Thread Christina Damien
Great response Tania, Well Done. Christina. -Original Message-From: Tom, Tania and Sam Smallwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Friday, 4 April 2003 8:54Subject: [ozmidwifery] re: article in the Advertiser Here's my

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Letter in Today's West Australian

2003-04-02 Thread Darren Sunn
Title: Re: Letter in Today's West Australian Thats sad...the poor woman S. KEOGH, Busselton. -- Darren

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