Re: [PD-dev] gavl and gmerlin-avdecoder in Fink and on build machines

2009-05-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 3, 2009, at 11:34 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Through the labors of August and some contributions from Luke and me, there are now libgavl1 and gmerlin-avdecoder1 for Fink. We are working on getting readanysf~ compiling nicely. Now that leads me

Re: [PD-dev] svn access

2009-05-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yer in! .hc On May 5, 2009, at 4:11 PM, august wrote: my sf name: augmentus Hey all, Since August has had access in the past, and is waiting to update his code in SVN, I am going to put him on the fast track and give him access now. Please let me know if that is a problem for anyone

Re: [PD-dev] gavl and gmerlin-avdecoder in Fink and on build machines

2009-05-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 5, 2009, at 4:02 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: hi. sorry for the overcryptic mail... Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: working on getting readanysf~ compiling nicely. Now that leads me to wonder: how about getting Gem on Mac OS X to use gavl and gmerlin-avdecoder? I think it'll

Re: [PD-dev] SVN access

2009-05-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You already are: ' edkelly' is a current member. :) .hc On May 5, 2009, at 6:13 PM, Ed Kelly wrote: Hi chaps, I've some new externals on the boil. Could I have write access to the SVN repository? That'd be awesome! Best, Ed Kelly ___

[PD-dev] pdp, gridflow, and gavl/gmerlin

2009-05-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Matju, Yves, Tom, and anyone else who cares, August has made his readanysf~ using gavl and gmerlin-decoder, IOhannes has made Gem use gavl as well, it sounds like its a nice framework, and August has been doing a bunch of work to get it running on MinGW and Mac OS X. He and I got it

Re: [PD-dev] Pd bugfixes uploaded

2009-05-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Cool, thanks, I'll check it out soon since I plan on doing the pd- extended 0.42 merge in the not too distant future. .hc On May 5, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: Hi all, I've updated the svn 'head' with a half dozen small bug fixes. I'm hoping to put this out as 0.42-5 in a

Re: [PD-dev] svn access

2009-05-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 9, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 16:29 +0200, august wrote: well, I was just trying to follower the developer wiki here: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/sf_project hm... it seems, that there are actually two pages about the same thing. the

Re: [PD-dev] pd-cvs shall include diffs

2009-05-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
The occasional 1meg emails from big commits are kind of a pain, like when doing an import or merge. It was nice to have immediate access to scan the diffs for sure. But the web interface to the diffs is a lot more useful. Ideally, there would be a size cutoff for the diffs, like 50k

Re: [PD-dev] pd-cvs shall include diffs

2009-05-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 12, 2009, at 5:19 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The occasional 1meg emails from big commits are kind of a pain, like when doing an import or merge. It was nice to have immediate access to scan the diffs for sure. But the web interface to the diffs

Re: [PD-dev] Building pd-extended on openSUSE 11.1 64-bit

2009-05-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Try searching puredata.info for '64' you can find people's notes. A few people have done it. .hc On May 11, 2009, at 7:07 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: I just managed to get the sound card working on my openSUSE 11.1 64-bit laptop, so I am planning to go ahead and build pd-extended

Re: [PD-dev] pd-cvs shall include diffs

2009-05-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 12, 2009, at 12:50 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: better stored in soundfiles than in header-files. inappropriate use should not keep use from having features. If I import code into the 'sources' tree (for Windows), then all of that code will be sent

Re: [PD-dev] who wants to port [wacom] for windows (and unix) ?

2009-05-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
/* file to tell it to look at (it won't take the /dev/wacom symlink). Windows should be the only one that needs the official wacom driver. On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: You can just use the linux input API to get the wacom data, [hid] works

[PD-dev] moocow readdir plans for Pd-extended 0.41.4

2009-05-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Brian, It looks like you are trying to get readdir going in Windows, based on the build error. I just wanted to know whether you are working on it now, or its a build fluke. I'd like to get an RC1 released, so I am just checking what the status is. I think I'll do an RC1 release

Re: [PD-dev] who wants to port [wacom] for windows (and unix) ?

2009-05-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
to know exactly what /dev/* file to tell it to look at (it won't take the /dev/wacom symlink). Windows should be the only one that needs the official wacom driver. On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: You can just use the linux input API to get

Re: [PD-dev] moocow readdir plans for Pd-extended 0.41.4

2009-05-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
the top of my todo list. afaic, go ahead and release. i think the win32-safety readdir changes ought to be quick and easy, but cf. signature ;-) marmosets, Bryan On 2009-05-13 16:17:42, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at appears to have written: Hey Brian, It looks like you

Re: [PD-dev] moocow readdir plans for Pd-extended 0.41.4

2009-05-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
entries are reported as type 'unknown'), but the guts ought to work. marmosets, Bryan On 2009-05-14 18:52:18, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at appears to have written: The rsyncing freaks out a lot on Winblows... readdir doesn't seem to get built there, but it doesn't stop the build

Re: [PD-dev] win32 build farm machine: humble requests

2009-05-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
August and I have been struggling with lots of win32/mingw updates over the past week or two. zlib is in there, I think August got pkg- config going. glib needs iconv and gettext. iconv is in there, but I haven't gotten gettext to go yet. August and I are sick of win32 builds, so we

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] VASP troubles on extended 0.40.3 - and on 0.41-RC1

2009-05-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
FYI: vasp and all other binaries were removed from Pd-extended, so you might have a vasp lying somewhere else in your Pd path. Turn on verbose mode to see which vasp file is actually being loaded. For more on the binary removal:

Re: [PD-dev] who wants to port [wacom] for windows (and unix) ?

2009-05-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
, 2009 at 7:27 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Check the help patch, there are some subpatches on the top illustrating alternate methods of specifying the device. vendorid/ productid is quite useful , but I forgot if that is implemtned in GNU/Linux. There are other ways too

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] packaging pd and friends WAS: GIT repo

2009-05-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 17, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Since you are also thinking about packaging, it would be good to open up a discussion about how to handle some things. If you plan on just packaging pd-vanilla, then its easy. If you want to support

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] abunch release

2009-05-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I am ccing the list to open it up to others and put it in the archive. I should make a FAQ for this question I suppose... Basically, I am encouraging people to first try distributing their library as a standalone libdir. Pd-extended now makes its a lot easier to install and use

[PD-dev] ffmpeg with gcc 3.4

2009-05-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
There is hope, we can still use MSYS's default gcc 3.4.5 for building ffmpeg, making the MinGW build setup much easier. Yes, its in japanese, but we can all understand the universal language of command line. http://feather.cocolog-nifty.com/weblog/2009/04/msys-mingw-gcc3.html Then

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] VASP troubles on extended 0.40.3 - and on 0.41-RC1

2009-05-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You can use the Pd build farm for this, of course. Your ssh key is still in all of the machiens. http://puredata.info/docs/developer/PdLab .hc On May 20, 2009, at 4:56 AM, Thomas Grill wrote: Hi Ed, thanks for the feedback. I'll try to fix this as soon as i get to a linux machine. gr~~~

[PD-dev] liboil - lib of CPU optimizations

2009-05-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Anyone ever looked at liboil? Liboil is a library of simple functions that are optimized for various CPUs. I just noticed that VLC is using it. It sounds like it could be quite useful for Pd. http://liboil.freedesktop.org/wiki/ .hc

[PD-dev] dlopen() for windows

2009-05-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
August just brought this potentially handy piece of software to my attention: http://code.google.com/p/dlfcn-win32/ Basically, it allows you to use dlopen() to access the native Win32 calls. Or in their words: This library implements a wrapper for dlfcn, as specified in POSIX and SUS,

Re: [PD-dev] request - PdLab Farm Machine

2009-06-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I am guessing that you are requesting shell access to the PdLab machines ;) .hc On Jun 3, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Carl Aksynczak wrote: Hi, I'm working with Mathieu on PureData project Thanks id_dsa.pub___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@iem.at

Re: [PD-dev] request - PdLab Farm Machine

2009-06-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
it works. tks Carl 2009/6/4 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at I am guessing that you are requesting shell access to the PdLab machines ;) .hc On Jun 3, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Carl Aksynczak wrote: Hi, I'm working with Mathieu on PureData project Thanks

[PD-dev] simple makefile template

2009-06-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey all, So I quickly put together a simple Makefile for building libraries. The idea here is to create a new template Makefile for Pd libs. It does not use autotools at all, most Pd objects don't need any of that. For more complicated projects, we should make a autoconf template and

[PD-dev] Pd-extended 0.42.5 builds should show up tomorrow

2009-06-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I completed the merge of Pd-vanilla 0.42.5 into Pd-extended 0.41.4, so builds should start showing up tomorrow. .hc Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope.

[PD-dev] hdspm_mixer.c:60: error: 't_hdspm_mixer' has no member named 'card_name'

2009-06-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Now that the nightly builds are biulding from trunk again, we have some issues to handle: cc -DPD -I/home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/pd/src -Wall -W -ggdb -I/ home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/Gem/src -I/home/pd/auto-build/pd- extended/externals/pdp/include -DUNIX -Dunix -DDL_OPEN -fPIC -o

[PD-dev] Debian/Ubuntu build machines upgraded to Tcl/Tk 8.5

2009-06-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I installed Tcl/Tk 8.5 on all of the Debian/Ubuntu build machines, ie: apt-get install tcl8.5-dev tk8.5-dev .hc I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies,

Re: [PD-dev] x86_64 fixes

2009-06-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Tim, Thanks for the patches. But they don't seem to be attached. The best thing to do would be to post them to the patch tracker as separate items, since they are patches for different people's code. .hc On Jun 10, 2009, at 9:22 AM, Tim Blechmann wrote: hi all, attached you find

[PD-dev] new Windows MinGW build env

2009-06-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
So August and I have been banging our heads against the whole world of MinGW to try to come up with a more up-to-date GNU build environment for Windows. I have documented what we have come up with so far here: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WindowsMinGW The big challenge here is to

[PD-dev] tclpd not building

2009-06-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
From the auto-build logs: cd /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/externals/tclpd make make[3]: Entering directory `/home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/externals/ tclpd' swig -v -c++ -tcl -o tcl_wrap.cxx -I../../pd/src -I/usr/include -I/usr/ include/tcl8.4 /usr/include/tcl8.5 tcl.i swig error :

[PD-dev] gettext for windows

2009-06-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I am trying to document the whole MinGW setup, it seems that compiling gettext is hit or miss. There is an 'official' binary for 0.16. Will that work? .hc It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because

Re: [PD-dev] Developer Status again.

2009-06-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Sounds good to me. .hc -- Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:44 +0200, Winfried Ritsch rit...@iem.at wrote: Hello, I am Winfried Ritsch from at IEM. Once upon a time I was a PD-developer, but since I didnt need it for the last years, I lost the status

[PD-dev] Windows MinGW rebuild on build machine

2009-06-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey, This is an FYI. I just rebuilt the Windows build machine with the new MinGW dev environment meant to support things like ffmpeg, gmerlin, expat, etc. http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WindowsMinGW It is still using gcc 3.4.5, but if someone wants to figure out which gcc 4.x

Re: [PD-dev] Developer Status again.

2009-06-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hope its ok with everyone, I fast-tracked him since he was already a developer before. Wini, your account should be in again. .hc On Jun 11, 2009, at 4:44 PM, Winfried Ritsch wrote: Hello, I am Winfried Ritsch from at IEM. Once upon a time I was a PD-developer, but since I didnt need

Re: [PD-dev] tclpd not building

2009-06-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jun 12, 2009, at 3:09 PM, mescali...@gmail.com wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: From the auto-build logs: cd /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/externals/tclpd make make[3]: Entering directory `/home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/externals/tclpd' swig -v -c++ -tcl -o tcl_wrap.cxx -I

[PD-dev] pkg-config on mingw

2009-06-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
So I followed August's and Bryan's instructions on using the GTK+ pkg- config binary from here: http://www.gtk.org/download-windows.html When I run it (on two different machines) I get the error Bad file number' .hc

[PD-dev] vanilla+libs build maintainer

2009-06-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Anyone want to maintain the vanilla+libs/main+libs nightly builds? They are broken and I am feeling overwhelmed with maintainence work. So if no one wants to do it, I'll remove it from the nightly builds. .hc

Re: [PD-dev] pkg-config on mingw

2009-06-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
which I attributed to pkg-config, but I'm afraid I don't recall the error message, or where they occurred. maybe we should do like the pkg-config folks suggest and try building pkg-config with a static local copy of glib-1.x? marmosets, Bryan On 2009-06-12 22:23:17, Hans-Christoph

Re: [PD-dev] tclpd not building

2009-06-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I forgot to say, I am happy to revert my changes if you want me to. .hc On Jun 12, 2009, at 3:24 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Jun 12, 2009, at 3:09 PM, mescali...@gmail.com wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: From the auto-build logs: cd /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended

[PD-dev] puredyne nightly build used at all?

2009-06-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey, In the interest of cleaning things up, I was wondering if the 'pd- puredyne' nightly build is used at all by anyone. If not, I'll remove it so we have less error messages on pd-cvs and perhaps those 10 year old computers will last longer... .hc

Re: [PD-dev] @hans - Pd-0.42.5-Extended missing pd.tk and libPdTcl.dylib

2009-06-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
This should be all fixed, so hopefully builds for all platforms tomorrow... .hc On Jun 9, 2009, at 6:20 AM, Luke Iannini wrote: Just as it says - I copied them over from PdE414 with success and everything looks great so far. Extremely excited to have a Pd-E that supports all the new

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended 0.41 and garray_getfloatarray

2009-06-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
It would be good to get the 0.42-5 release of Pd-extended to be fully working in 64-bit. There are test builds now, and Tim Blechmann has submitted some patches that fix 64-bit issues. I currently don't have a 64-bit install to work with. .hc On Jun 15, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Johannes

Re: [PD-dev] win xp-filesystem: get folder content?

2009-06-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
[folder_list] does that, its in my 'hcs' grab bag library. .hc On Jun 16, 2009, at 9:33 AM, Hannes Breitschädel wrote: Hi List! Windwos XP-Question: is there a way to get the content of a folder within a pd patch? Example: my harddrive could contain something like: .../audio/test1.wav

Re: [PD-dev] win xp-filesystem: get folder content?

2009-06-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: [folder_list] does that, its in my 'hcs' grab bag library. .hc On Jun 16, 2009, at 9:33 AM, Hannes Breitschädel wrote: Hi List! Windwos XP-Question: is there a way to get the content of a folder within a pd patch? Example: my harddrive could contain something

Re: [PD-dev] Finished iemguts' [canvasselect] and a max-toolbox-like proof of concept

2009-06-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Sounds very cool, but the [keynamedown] object seems to be missing. I got it from trunk/abstractions/sfruit/keynamedown.pd Works wonderfully! For ideas, check out this wiki page: http://puredata.info/dev/GuiIdeas plus I think the DesireData people put out a couple video demos. .hc On

[PD-dev] iemxmlrpc not building on MinGW

2009-06-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
The link to pthreadGC2 is failing: g++ -s -shared -o /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/externals/iem/ iemxmlrpc/xmlrpc.dll /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/externals/iem/ iemxmlrpc/main.o /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/externals/iem/ iemxmlrpc/xmlrpc++/src/XmlRpcClient.o

Re: [PD-dev] Quick tip for compiling objects on Snow Leopard

2009-06-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
We should get 64-bit builds going. There is a part-time 10.5 build server, so it should be possible to make a 32/64-bit universal binary of the whole thing. I wrote up a new, standalone Makefile that easily supports such builds, the idea is to have a single build system for each lib,

Re: [PD-dev] align objects by keyboard shortcut

2009-07-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jul 1, 2009, at 8:02 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: glerm soares wrote: hi, where is [canvasobjectposition] ? it's in iemguts. I could not find it. I am using pd-extended 0.41 afaik iemguts are not included in Pd-extended ieven if they were, [canvasobjectposition] would not be

[PD-dev] new pd-devel feature: patches for file associations

2009-08-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
So I fixed a couple bugs in Pd-devel and added a new feature which I'd like feedback on: I created a system for associating pd patches to file extensions and created an example wav.pd for opening .WAVs. Basically, create a patch using the text $FILENAME for the filename should go, name

Re: [PD-dev] svn structure

2009-08-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
There are different core versions of pd: vanilla (miller's), devel, extended, desiredata. Then there are all of the externals, docs, etc. Pd-extended includes all this stuff as part of each release so everything is then added to the pd-extended release branch. The externals, docs,

Re: [PD-dev] svn structure

2009-08-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Each branch has its own goals and tracks trunk accordingly. Pd- extended tracks trunk with a merge before each release. The pd-devel 0.41.4 branch is currently only for the GUI rewrite effort and is frozen on 0.41.4. Previous pd-devel branches were for other things. Donno about

[PD-dev] tooltips idea

2009-08-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey, So there has been a revived discussion of adding tooltip support to inlets/outlets, based on Günter's old patch. I think we should open up the discussion again to see if we can come up with a solution that Miller would accept. I believe his original objection was based on the

Re: [PD-dev] autobuild externals, motex and ext13 makefile issues..

2009-08-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
The idea is to make a template Makefile for use with any lib that doesn't need ./configure (which is most). Then once we have something that people are happy with, make it the default Makefile template, include it in the Externals HOWTO, and then use it in the libraries that are in SVN.

Re: [PD-dev] tooltips idea

2009-08-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 16, 2009, at 10:46 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sun, 16 Aug 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: So there has been a revived discussion of adding tooltip support to inlets/outlets, based on Günter's old patch. I think we should open up the discussion again to see if we can come

Re: [PD-dev] svn commit access?!?

2009-08-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Sounds good to me! .hc On Aug 17, 2009, at 4:54 AM, dmotd wrote: hi folks, i'm requesting developer commit access to pd svn. for those of you not aware i've been a long term pd user, a regular #dataflow atendee, and an occasional contributor of code and other debris to this and other

Re: [PD-dev] tooltips idea

2009-08-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 17, 2009, at 4:33 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sun, 16 Aug 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Aug 16, 2009, at 10:46 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sun, 16 Aug 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: So there has been a revived discussion of adding tooltip support to inlets

[PD-dev] getting rid of #/$ and sharptodollar()

2009-08-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I'm hacking away on the array panel and generalized the panel stuff in the pd-gui and I ran into the sharptodollar() and mofo stuff in pdtk_array. It seems there has got to be a better way to do this, like properly escaping the $ on the Tcl side so Pd handles it properly. Can anyone

Re: [PD-dev] getting rid of #/$ and sharptodollar()

2009-08-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I started a wiki page to document this issue. I'm going to try to eliminate the need for this stuff in pd-devel/0.41.4 http://puredata.info/dev/DollarArgsInPanels .hc On Aug 17, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I'm hacking away on the array panel and generalized

[PD-dev] [info complete $cmd_from_pd] profiling

2009-08-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Miller, Just going thru the code you checked in. I noticed this in ::pd_connect::pd_readsocket, I am guessing this is the re-add any \n that are missing. I am curious, did you profile it at all? I was hesitant to do that because I thought it might have a big performance hit.

[PD-dev] msgcat on windows

2009-08-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Miller, I just renamed *_panel to dialog_*, that name works fine for me. Plus I replaced all tabs with 4 spaces, which it looks like you did as well. I just recently created dialog_array.tcl and dialog_canvas.tcl for those dialogs and cleaned things up some with the panels. I just

[PD-dev] file naming: pd.tcl, pd-gui.tcl, ?

2009-08-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
So I just changed the main Tcl file to 'pd-gui.tcl' following the old GUI binary name 'pd-gui'. In merging the code, Miller choose 'pd.tcl'. I don't have a strong preference either way, I'm fine just using 'pd.tcl'. I think others expressed some opinions, so I just wanted to see if

Re: [PD-dev] new pd-devel feature: patches for file associations

2009-08-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
is defined, to put it into those terms. For example, there is no method in 'pd' for creating a new patch, File-New invokes the Tcl proc menu_new. File-Save is in 'pd'. .hc On Aug 19, 2009, at 2:14 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] pd-toolkit first Release

2009-08-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
It would be a great thing to have in Pd-extended, but first it should be stable, both in terms of not crashing, and in terms of the API not changing. If you have to make incompatible changes to something like iemguts or kbd_ctrl once its included in Pd-extended, then its a really pain.

Re: [PD-dev] denormals: svf, freeverb (was Re: [PD] bug in freeverb???)

2009-08-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 20, 2009, at 12:29 PM, Tim Blechmann wrote: pd devel_0_39 did also set the DAZ/FTZ flags, which affect the denormal handling on the sse unit, but that was never merged into vanilla pd I see there's a new pd_devel branch. I should check it out. i doubt, that the new pd_devel branch

Re: [PD-dev] [info complete $cmd_from_pd] profiling

2009-08-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
... the last thing I hit was for some reason the line: #if { $::windowingsystem eq win32 } {create_system_menu $mymenubar} in pd_menus.tcl got up my PC's nose. cheers M On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:00:02AM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey Miller, Just going thru the code you

Re: [PD-dev] svn commit access?!?

2009-08-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Seems like we waiting long enough, if anyone has any objections please speak up. I added you, so you should have commit access. .hc On Aug 21, 2009, at 5:14 AM, dmotd wrote: still no objections? would someone please flick the switch?! cheers! dmotd Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote

Re: [PD-dev] svn commit access?!?

2009-08-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
is the current conversation with you and IO happening? cheers, dmotd Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Seems like we waiting long enough, if anyone has any objections please speak up. I added you, so you should have commit access. .hc On Aug 21, 2009, at 5:14 AM, dmotd wrote: still no objections? would

Re: [PD-dev] ATI + GridFlow + Gem + C++ + Linux = BOOM

2009-08-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Matju, From my perspective, adding -lstdc++ has more problems than just making a simple libstdc++.pd_linux and loading that. For example, the Debian package will then require libstdc++. Plus it means another difference from Pd-vanilla. Its not really something I know about, and

Re: [PD-dev] ATI + GridFlow + Gem + C++ + Linux = BOOM

2009-08-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 23, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Do you have any documentation on this as a suggested workaround? http://wiki.fifengine.de/Segfault_in_cxa_allocate_exception#Workaround_.231 Explicitly linking against libstdc++ before linking against

Re: [PD-dev] build system + template (ext13) = broken - fix?

2009-08-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Its kind of amazing how complicated something like DESTDIR support can be. This sounds like a workable solution, Makefile.buildlayout is a bit whack anyway. I am find with you working directly in the SVN as long as you stick with it until it works. That's the reason for the nightly

[PD-dev] new GUI rewrite branch

2009-08-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Just in any I didn't get the word out, the GUI rewrite stuff is now merged with Miller's 0.43 beginnings in trunk and in a new branch: https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43 So this branch should be considered frozen in the past:

Re: [PD-dev] Malloc Error occuring with PD 0.41.4

2009-08-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hmm, never seen that one. Can you reproduce it, does it happen every time? The org.puredata.pd.wish part makes me think that make its the Tcl/Tk GUI side that's crashing. Which exact version of mac os x are you running? Which hardware? .hc On Aug 27, 2009, at 12:27 PM, james murray

Re: [PD-dev] Malloc Error occuring with PD 0.41.4

2009-08-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
... and it's mac 10.5.8. The other computer is identical, but is running on 10.5.6. Thanks for getting back to me s quickly... I've been definitely hitting my head on this for a few days. J On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Hmm, never seen

Re: [PD-dev] Malloc Error occuring with PD 0.41.4

2009-08-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
] terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc' Thanks in advance J On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: FYI, you'll want to keep this on the pd-dev list. There are others there who know more about it than me. .hc On Aug 27, 2009

Re: [PD-dev] Malloc Error occuring with PD 0.41.4

2009-08-31 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 31, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, james murray wrote: It steadily creeps up in memory used until I have approx 140 mb of free memory on the computer. And although I noticed that it occasionally flashed all the way down to only 6 - 9 MB of free

[PD-dev] how to tell when a patch is finished loading

2009-09-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I'm playing around with some GUI behaviors, and I was wondering if anyone knows a way to tell that the patch is finished loading and 'pd' has finished sending all of the Tcl/sys_gui drawing commands. This would be a very useful hook for attaching Tcl procs for making dynamic GUI

[PD-dev] pd-gui-rewrite C changes

2009-09-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Miller, So now that I have the C side synced up with your trunk 0.43, I plan on making some changes to the C code. Those changes I'll submit as patches to the patch tracker, unless you don't think that's useful. Here are the C-side changes that I think are important to make for

Re: [PD-dev] pd-gui-rewrite C changes

2009-09-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
be a slow process. cheers Miller On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 12:24:34PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey Miller, So now that I have the C side synced up with your trunk 0.43, I plan on making some changes to the C code. Those changes I'll submit as patches to the patch tracker, unless you

[PD-dev] cut/copy/paste from text in canvas (i.e. obj, msg, comment, etc)

2009-09-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
In g_editor.c there are canvas_cut(), canvas_copy(), and canvas_paste(). They do the obvious actions of cut/copy/paste on whole Pd chunks on Pd patches, but also they handle cut/copy/paste of the text that is inside of the msg, obj boxes and comments. That's a different mechanism, that

Re: [PD-dev] cut/copy/paste from text in canvas (i.e. obj, msg, comment, etc)

2009-09-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 1, 2009, at 5:03 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I was wondering if there was any reason why doing a copy when editing text needs to be sent to 'pd' at all. Just a tk_textCopy should do it, no need to send a message to 'pd' to have

Re: [PD-dev] how to tell when a patch is finished loading

2009-09-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 1, 2009, at 4:55 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I'm playing around with some GUI behaviors, and I was wondering if anyone knows a way to tell that the patch is finished loading and 'pd' has finished sending all of the Tcl/sys_gui

Re: [PD-dev] how to tell when a patch is finished loading

2009-09-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 2, 2009, at 2:30 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Miller Puckette hat gesagt: // Miller Puckette wrote: I don't think there's any existing way to do it--- time to design some appropriate hooks :) Actually at RjDj we would also appreciate a hook for telling the user when a scene

Re: [PD-dev] how to tell when a patch is finished loading

2009-09-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 2, 2009, at 11:22 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: just ping the client... depends a bit on the branch... miller: sys_gui(pd %s done \\;\n,rcv-s_name); hans: sys_gui(pdsend \%s done\\n,rcv-s_name); matju: sys_gui(netsend \%s done\\n,rcv

Re: [PD-dev] how to tell when a patch is finished loading

2009-09-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 11, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 11 Sep 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Well, I found a little hack way to do it. It turns out that 'pd' sends this proc when its done loading: pdtk_canvas_getscroll .x64b920.c Please try not to duck-tape yourself

[PD-dev] sys_perf/glob_perf

2009-09-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Anyone know the details of sys_perf/glob_perf? It seems that they are only there to control whether Pd always prompts to quit or not. .hc [W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are

Re: [PD-dev] pd buildsys: libdir / etags and the existing template

2009-09-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 13, 2009, at 9:57 PM, dmotd wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Sep 13, 2009, at 5:14 AM, dmotd wrote: i'm not familiar with etags, i understand that they allow emacs to to search through relevant code, am i off the mark and is just globbing source code enough? yes, its

[PD-dev] dictionary of macros

2009-09-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
In trying to figure out all of the macros in use in Pd, I started a dictionary. Please update/add as you see fit: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/DictionaryOfMacros .hc I hate it when they say, He gave his

[PD-dev] tclpd build for Mac OS X

2009-09-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Federico, With the attached Makefile, I got tclpd to build and load on Mac OS X. Minus the swig dependency, it would probably also build and load on WIndows. It looks very promising, I could see it being the standard API for making GUI objects. .hc Makefile Description: Binary

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended on debian testing

2009-09-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Arnout, Since there aren't current testing builds, you're best bet is to build from source. The comma error is fixed in SVN, but not in the source tarball. So if you use SVN or rsync (search puredata.info for 'rsync') to get the code, it should build a .deb. There is only one

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended on debian testing

2009-09-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 19, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Arnout Engelen wrote: On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 01:24:02PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Since there aren't current testing builds, you're best bet is to build from source. No problem The comma error is fixed in SVN, but not in the source tarball. So

Re: [PD-dev] deb packages discussion

2009-09-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Anderson, Its good timing for bringing these up, Günter has stopped maintaining his official Debian packages, so they are officially orphaned right now. Anyone here a Debian Developer? I am starting the process of becoming a Debian Developer (and I'll be helping to run DebCof 2010

Re: [PD-dev] modular compositions of object classes

2009-09-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 21, 2009, at 5:10 PM, mescali...@gmail.com wrote: Jakob Leben wrote: On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:01 PM, mescali...@gmail.com mailto:mescali...@gmail.com mescali...@gmail.com mailto:mescali...@gmail.com wrote: if I were writing an external that is somewhat an interface to arrays

Re: [PD-dev] deb packages discussion

2009-09-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
First off, just to be clear, I don't think anyone wants to keep the big monolithic build system or the package. Its a big hack/kludge that is not maintainable going forward. I answered some other random questions below as well. On Sep 21, 2009, at 6:16 PM, Anderson Goulart wrote: And

Re: [PD-dev] deb packages discussion

2009-09-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 22, 2009, at 12:38 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: 2) remove m_pd.h from externals and use m_pd.h (why do I need to have PD source to compile my external? This should be installed as any other library and linked with -l option; the m_pd.h should

Re: [PD-dev] deb packages discussion

2009-09-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 22, 2009, at 1:04 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: i agree (and honestly i don't think a CPAN-like system will happen anytime soon). It will happen as soon as someone does it. :D I don't think anyone objects to the idea, right? well, like always - i

Re: [PD-dev] pd gui

2009-09-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Try a nightly build of 0.42.5 -extended. I think Miller fixed these bugs in 0.42.5. http://autobuild.puredata.info .hc On Sep 23, 2009, at 4:54 AM, bra...@subnet.at wrote: hi list what happend, as i was opening a patch with quiet a lot of gui elements tgl#180;s sliders

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