Re: AF, digital and marketing (was Re: *ist D revisited)

2003-06-07 Thread Caveman
We're living interesting times. PJ and amateur's interests have started to diverge, so the traditional Nikon scheme doesn't work anymore. It will be fun to watch their attempts to getting out of this situation. cheers, caveman KT Takeshita wrote: This has been true and one of the reasons why

Take a Guess

2003-06-07 Thread tom
What did I break today? tv

Re: Take a Guess

2003-06-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What did I break today? An assistant's toe when you dropped a light on it? -- Glenn

RE: The *ist camera

2003-06-07 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] i was out shooting today with a guy from Kodak and he said that the 14n's noise level is too high for landscape and nature photographers that need extra long shutter speeds. much below 1/4s and the noise becomes

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith Whaley wrote: Oooops! I meant to say: I'm not fond of _automatic_ focus on my Pentaxes! Yeah, but my favorite part was I have a number of the appropriate lenses, maybe 10 M-42s and

Re: The *ist camera

2003-06-07 Thread Rüdiger Neumann
Hallo Cotty, Yery true, and I was extremely sad to have to let go my A*85mm f/1.4 - the best lens of all time in my very humble opinion. However, I am beginning to see that it may have been of limited value when attached to the *ist D. The A lenses will work, only the K and M lenses will not

Re: AF, digital and marketing (was Re: *ist D revisited)

2003-06-07 Thread Mark Roberts
KT Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03.6.6 11:44 PM, Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: get it fast and in digital format please, and quality doesn't matter that much any more This is untrue. Canon has made their reputation in digital through consistently increasing the quality of their

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Cotty
I submit we should do a survey and see why the current PDMLers are sticking here. I suspect that a large percentage is still with pentax because they still enjoy the manual focus era cameras and lenses. The AF action is on the Canon list for a long time now. I have a couple of MXs and some

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Cotty
It's the Pentax PUB. If you knew that, what's the purpose of your coming in with dirty mouth? You just do not make sense at all on everything. Only reason you are here is because people here tolerate what you could not do in the Nikon List. Careful Ken, you're in danger of shooting yourself in

Re: The *ist camera

2003-06-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boy, you got that right! I used to road race motorcycles (which is a less expensive hobby than racing cars) and could easily go through a few hundred dollars in expenses per race weekend. That's money burned with nothing to show for it. ...except a huge smile and

Re: Take a Guess

2003-06-07 Thread Bill Owens
Your Canon digital? Bill - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 2:55 AM Subject: RE: Take a Guess -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What did I break today? An

Re: To Pentax in Japan (does anybody have their email address?)

2003-06-07 Thread Steve Larson
I second that. I was really looking forward to that camera, now I am not. I don`t think Pentax gives a rats ass about what we think here on the list. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Arnold Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Optio S revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Bill Owens
After having the opportunity to handle an Optio S last weekend on Grandfather Mountain, the wife decided she wanted one in time for our youngest's wedding on June 22. Unfortunately they are not available locally due to a backorder of nearly 35,000 (popular little thing, isn't it). However they

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Keith Whaley
Mark Roberts wrote: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] incantations??? I knew that SMC glass was reputed to have some magical properties! Oh, it DOES, Sir! Indeed so! Love them SMC 50's of the 1.4 variety! Love they little toes, [etc.] I have three of the 50/1.4

Re: Funny coatings comment

2003-06-07 Thread Keith Whaley
What was funny or odd about the coating mentioned in the ad? That he called it a golden color? Just curious as to what you meant... keith collinb wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2933394539category=4688

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread KT Takeshita
On 03.6.7 7:23 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Careful Ken, you're in danger of shooting yourself in the foot. Yeah, yeah, I know. I was just about to exit from my self-righteous BR policing (I never got involved in any flame war stuff in the past but thought BR was going too far in rampage

Re: Contax stopped N-Digital

2003-06-07 Thread Peter Alling
Since the 645 67 lenses on K mount cameras use stop down metering as compatible as they ever were. At 01:03 PM 6/7/03 +0200, you wrote: Hallo, look on http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-6234-6239 Will that be the dead of the Contax N-System? Good that Pentax stopped their

Re: Take a Guess

2003-06-07 Thread Peter Alling
Is there a prize offered for a correct answer? If so how many try's do I get? At 02:22 AM 6/7/03 -0400, you wrote: What did I break today? tv Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. --Groucho Marx

Re: To Pentax in Japan (does anybody have their email address?)

2003-06-07 Thread Peter Alling
Nicely said if only we could be sure they read and care about what is said on this list. At 09:32 AM 6/7/03 +0200, you wrote: Dear Pentax Corporation, For more than 14 years I am a user and a big enthusiast of Pentax k-mount equipment. I have spent a huge amount of money both on new and used

Re: Funny coatings comment

2003-06-07 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk
What was funny or odd about the coating mentioned in the ad? That he called it a golden color? I guess that's it. It's not golden but rather yellow. The lens on auction is the infamous 50/1.4 with a radioactive element (or something like that - I don't remember) that caused yellowing.

Re: The *ist camera

2003-06-07 Thread Keith Whaley
Oooo! That has sort of a Lotus flavor, doesn't it? I do like it! I'd love one in my stable, if I had one...a stable that is. Thanks for the site URL. I'm going back for a good look. keith Cotty wrote: (I would love a Ginetta to run around in on sunny Sunday afternoons though - oops, don't

Re: AF, digital and marketing (was Re: *ist D revisited)

2003-06-07 Thread KT Takeshita
On 03.6.7 7:28 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't be Canon who already has 11mp full frame CMOS. It *could* be for Canon...if they want to upgrade the EOS 1D. Personally, I think Canon will make their own sensor, though... You could very well be right. I did not think Canon

FA-J lenses (WAS: Re: *ist)

2003-06-07 Thread Pål Jensen
Harold wrote: Pentax will have to release quality FAJ lenses for the *ist D rather than the 'economy' type lenses supplied for the *ist SLR. REPLY: I've been told that the FA-J lenses are strictly entry level and that there will be no higher end FA-J lenses. Pål

Re: Question on Pentax Lineup

2003-06-07 Thread Pål Jensen
Bruce wrote: There weren't enough people willing to spend $1,400 on a Minolta no matter how good it was. REPLY: I believe the main problem for the Dynaxx 9 was that it didn't really offer anything over its cheaper siblings than built quality. Nikon and Canon can presently get away with such

Re: Question on Pentax Lineup

2003-06-07 Thread Pål Jensen
John wrote: No wonder the 7 is such a sales *success*. REPLY: Success? That depends on how you count. According to the Wall street journal the Dynaxx 7 only sell 1/10th of its projected sales and Minolta is loosing wholesale on it. Pål

Re: Need help from Japan to buy some parts for Pentax FA31 lens (again)

2003-06-07 Thread Pål Jensen
Alan wrote: Okay ODML members, this will be my last attempt to ask for help to buy some parts for my brand new FA31/1.8 LIMITED lens (unfortunately). REPLY: Why can't Pentax Canada get parts for it? Around here they can even rebuilt chrome Limiteds into black ones. Parts are easily

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Pål Jensen
Alan wrote: Unfortunately, they have already done so. Perhaps they saw Nikon did okay so they followed the same route. I don't know the difficulty of designing a camera with the coupling ring, but that ring can't be expensive. Perhaps US$20 more to the selling price (just to be safe)? But when

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Pål Jensen
Alin wrote: Unlikely - I agree. But maybe Pentax thinks there is room for a higher model - larger sensor and full K mount compatibility. Who knows!? Is the D100 fully AI compatible ?... It's hard to accept they will dump just like that their most precious asset - mount compatibility.

Re: The *ist camera

2003-06-07 Thread Pål Jensen
Alan wrote: 2) Pentax will suffer a slow and painful death because most Pentax long time users will abandon their good old K mount lenses for good (why stay with Pentax if they must re-invest all over again?). Make sense? :-) REPLY: From Pentax point of view people who are using 20+ year

Re: The *ist camera

2003-06-07 Thread Pål Jensen
Artur wrote: There is NO, and I mean NO, sign of implementing image stabilisation or/and USM motors from Pentax in any reasonably near future. Such implementation exists only in the virtual reality of our list, it's nothing but our wishful thinking. Yet the signs of abandoning the compatibility

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Pål Jensen
Roland wrote: Now, the information seems strange since Pentax has officially claimed compatibility with K-mount lenses. It's also strange that they in the *ist manual writes that shutter speed varies according to aperture ring position, when it seems not be doing this. Has Pentax any

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Pål Jensen
Christian wrote: As far as Pentax releasing new lenses in FAJ mount, perhaps they will have a new FAJ* designation for the better quality ones. REPLY: I've been told that there will be no FAJ* lenses. My guess is that the FA, FA* and FA Limiteds will continue unless they release a completely

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Pål Jensen
Alin wrote: This is just an urban legend. Used market is another sign of a well doing company. Availability and fast turnaround of used items means money consolidation that generates new sales for the company. It's as valid in the camera market as it is in the auto market, if you need

Re: Take a Guess

2003-06-07 Thread Keith Whaley
Maybe he broke his vow to wait for the *ist-D? g keith Peter Alling wrote: Is there a prize offered for a correct answer? If so how many try's do I get? At 02:22 AM 6/7/03 -0400, you wrote: What did I break today? tv

Re: AF, digital and marketing (was Re: *ist D revisited)

2003-06-07 Thread Mark Roberts
KT Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03.6.7 7:28 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't be Canon who already has 11mp full frame CMOS. It *could* be for Canon...if they want to upgrade the EOS 1D. Personally, I think Canon will make their own sensor, though... You could very

Re: Funny coatings comment

2003-06-07 Thread Keith Whaley
No, you may be right, but consider that the front element on the lens shown DID have a yellowish or golden cast to it, as a result of the anti-reflective coating applied. I'd go look at mine, but it's in the window being irradiated by the sun, to get rid of it's rear element yellow! g keith

Re: AF, digital and marketing (was Re: *ist D revisited)

2003-06-07 Thread KT Takeshita
On 03.6.7 9:21 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just thought of a reason why Canon *might* go to an outside supplier: Parts availability. If they can't produce enough sensors themselves they'll certainly go to outside suppliers rather than give up market share by cutting

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Peter Alling
Pål read the damned *ist manual posted by Pentax USA on their official web site. Some of your information directly contradicts official released documentation. Spoken word is hearsay while written words have much more weight in court. Why is that? (Rhetorical question don't bother to

Re: Take a Guess

2003-06-07 Thread Peter Alling
He did that months ago. At 06:13 AM 6/7/03 -0700, keith wrote: Maybe he broke his vow to wait for the *ist-D? g keith Peter Alling wrote: Is there a prize offered for a correct answer? If so how many try's do I get? At 02:22 AM 6/7/03 -0400, you wrote: What did I break today? tv

Re: AF, digital and marketing (was Re: *ist D revisited)

2003-06-07 Thread KT Takeshita
On 03.6.7 9:26 AM, KT Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just thought of a reason why Canon *might* go to an outside supplier: Parts availability. If they can't produce enough sensors themselves they'll certainly go to outside suppliers rather than give up market share by cutting

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Pål Jensen
Peter wrote: Pål read the damned *ist manual posted by Pentax USA on their official web site. Some of your information directly contradicts official released documentation. Spoken word is hearsay while written words have much more weight in court. Why is that? (Rhetorical question

Re: The *ist camera

2003-06-07 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Pål, on 07 Jun 03 you wrote in pentax.list: I cannot see why the abandonment of the aperture simulator should help implementing IS or USM. If they need a new protocol to implement You're basically right. However, the lack of cmpatibility is a cost issue first and foremost in case of the

Re: To Pentax in Japan (does anybody have their email address?)

2003-06-07 Thread Anthony Farr
Arnold, Does this mean in non-metered manual mode, all apertures are available with K/M lenses? That wasn't clear from your earlier report. It wasn't even clear that a non-metered mode was available. If it's true then I'd be happy enough, as I'm not as married to the concept of internal meters

Re: The *ist camera

2003-06-07 Thread Cotty
We were riding a Yam FZR400 and the light weight and relatively low horsepower made it easy to outrun the bigger, more powerful bikes on the wet asphalt. I have *never* had more fun on a race track. Later, a friend of mine described my mood after the race thusly: I've never seen anyone get off a

Re: Pentax to close Head Office, Repair Station and Warehouse in Vancouver!

2003-06-07 Thread Nick Zentena
On June 6, 2003 11:51 pm, Cameron Hood wrote: Vancouver is a city of 1.5 million people. And this is the only Pentax repair station west of Toronto, over 3,000 miles away. They plan on operating in Canada out of Toronto only. This can not be a good thing, and cannot be a sign of a healthy

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread T Rittenhouse
The problem is the word compatibility means different things to different people. Novice user: Everything works. Experienced user: Works like it did on the old bodies. Manufacturer: You can mount it on the body. Said in jest, but unfortunately, it is only funny because there is a certain amount

Re: To Pentax in Japan (does anybody have their email address?)

2003-06-07 Thread Arnold Stark
Sorry if I did not describe things clearly. Yes, on the *ist D a non-metered manual mode is available with K- and M series lenses. DOF preview is available, too. One can even meter with the camera in AV mode at open aperture, then switch to manual mode and calculate what the shutter time

Re: Pentax k-mount

2003-06-07 Thread Arnold Stark
I won't either buy a Nikon or Canon DSLR. If Pentax does not hear us and does not offer better compatibilty on a DSLR that I can afford, then I will either buy a better film scanner, or I will wait for Cosina to bring a DSLR in true k-mount. Or I willpull out the memory chip and reprogram that

Re: Cheap 135mm lens?

2003-06-07 Thread Nick Zentena
On June 6, 2003 07:22 pm, Daniel Liu wrote: Also, interestingly enough, i've run into a zeiss 135mm m42 lens on ebay running for about $35 US, and even an Angenieux (are they still around?) 135mm m42 lens going for *faints* almost $700. Is that a Zeiss Jena? You can find a real

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread T Rittenhouse
LOL! Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 11:36 AM Subject: Re: *ist D revisited - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: *ist in stock

2003-06-07 Thread T Rittenhouse
Only when it is damp. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 2:42 PM Subject: Re: *ist in stock On Friday 06 June 2003 14:30, T Rittenhouse wrote: Yes,

RE: Take a Guess

2003-06-07 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What did I break today? Not Another Flash! Oooh, very close. tv

Re: Digital vs. film cave test

2003-06-07 Thread Nick Zentena
On June 5, 2003 11:04 pm, Rob Studdert wrote: On 5 Jun 2003 at 20:51, Nick Zentena wrote: So it was stacked in favour of the digital. What's new? Read again. It was nicely highlighting the inadequacies of mainstream digital projection options. No it was testing a digital

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2003-06-07 Thread Paul Eriksson
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Re: *ist

2003-06-07 Thread Nick Zentena
On June 5, 2003 10:30 pm, Caveman wrote: Nick Zentena wrote: Has Pentax ever made a lens with lower resolution then any current digital sensor can handle? The worst Pentax lens ever made likely exceeds the best current digital sensor. Don't underestimate digital. It's still in its

Re: Digital vs. film cave test

2003-06-07 Thread Nick Zentena
On June 5, 2003 09:19 pm, Mark Roberts wrote: It was stacked *against* digital. How can any test that gives one side that much of a monetary advantage be stacked against the side with more money? Nick

Don't need no stinkin' D*ist (was To Pentax in Japan)

2003-06-07 Thread Rfsindg
Bruce, A thoughtful post. I see all this wailing and moaning about the d*ist, and like you, I can't get too excited. I will probably migrate to medium format someday but still keep my 35 mm stuff. I fully expect that it will outlast me. In fact, I have been enjoying going backward in time

Re: *ist for my wife

2003-06-07 Thread Peter Alling
So the statement Nice trade is inappropriate? At 09:27 AM 6/7/03 -0500, you wrote: Ryan Charron wrote: You didn't spill milk on one of her books did you? Nope, more like Crown Royal... :-) Just setting it up for me to get the *ist-D when it comes out. -- Later, Gary Outside of a dog, a

Re: To Pentax in Japan (does anybody have their email address?)

2003-06-07 Thread Anthony Farr
Thanks for answering so soon, Arnold. This makes me happier, and I can now deselect rant-mode, and withdraw my recent complaints. I'm sympathetic to those who prefer to have the camera's meter and especially Av mode available with their classic lenses, and I hope that either a work-around is

RE: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: Pål Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom wrote: Ha! The 10D is metal too. REPLY: Isn't this just another case of canons Classic metal scam job? Ultra cheap plastic body with a thin cosmetic metal film on top? Like the Elan 7 or the AE-1 etc. I

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Anthony Farr
Rather like the description of gear as portable, which in many instances means that it has a handle (despite weighing 200kg). regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 8 June 2003 2:28 AM Subject: Re: *ist D

Re: The *ist camera

2003-06-07 Thread Artur Ledóchowski
- Original Message - From: Heiko Hamann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The *ist camera This is something, that I could accept. I did never mind the crippled mount on a MZ-30/50/60, as there is no need to buy such a camera. But I can't understand, why cost cutting is an argument on a

Re: AF, digital and marketing (was Re: *ist D revisited)

2003-06-07 Thread T Rittenhouse
Why do you say that? The average snapshooter (and PJ) only needs 2mp (adequate for a 4x print, web page, or e-mail). People photographers (portrait, wedding, candid, etc.) need more, around 14mp (adequate for an 11x14 print). Fine art and advertising photographers can use whatever they can get.

Re: *ist/*istD are crippled because Pentax kneecapped them (was: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Peter Alling
Pål, it makes on sense for a camera manufacturer to purposefully make a camera that annoy's there present user base without offering something that is unavailable elsewhere. There is almost nothing in the current Pentax lens line that excites me enough to buy their new 35mm lenses. If I have

Re: Pentax k-mount

2003-06-07 Thread Peter Alling
If you've got a prom burner... At 06:32 PM 6/7/03 +0200, you wrote: I won't either buy a Nikon or Canon DSLR. If Pentax does not hear us and does not offer better compatibilty on a DSLR that I can afford, then I will either buy a better film scanner, or I will wait for Cosina to bring a DSLR

Re: *ist in stock

2003-06-07 Thread Peter Alling
It's always damp in England... At 12:35 PM 6/7/03 -0400, you wrote: Only when it is damp. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 2:42 PM Subject: Re: *ist in

Re: The *ist camera

2003-06-07 Thread Peter Alling
If these cameras can use A lenses they support 99% of the old protocol. Leaving out the last 1% is not a cost saving, it's a scheme to sell new lenses. When third party lens makers produce Pro quality lenses for not much more than Pentax produces consumer quality lenses who's do you think new

Re: AF, digital and marketing (was Re: *ist D revisited)

2003-06-07 Thread KT Takeshita
On 03.6.7 10:53 AM, KT Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not know but I was always under the impression that Canon buy CCD for DSLR (Cheaper that way?). I do not think they ever announced who is making their CCD. Perhaps I can check with someone in Japan. Hi Mark, One of my contacts

Re: The *ist camera

2003-06-07 Thread Artur Ledóchowski
- Original Message - From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The *ist camera When third party lens makers produce Pro quality lenses for not much more than Pentax produces consumer quality lenses who's do you think new users will buy? They have already been doing it

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread alexanderkrohe
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 12:20:38 +0100 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a couple of MXs and some Pentax glass. These items are from a completely different company that exists now. That is the case for all camera manufacturers. Those who did not change went bankrupt some time ago.

RE: AF, digital and marketing (was Re: *ist D revisited)

2003-06-07 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: T Rittenhouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] People photographers (portrait, wedding, candid, etc.) need more, around 14mp (adequate for an 11x14 print). Um, this 16x20 I have sitting here suggests 6M works ok for big prints. I've seen nice 11x14's from a 1D

AF, digital and marketing (was Re: *IST D revisited)

2003-06-07 Thread Steve Desjardins
So guess what. Suddenly the 35mm PJ flagships are in disgrace, and you can't use those anymore for your marketing. This is great news. Since they are not longer useful for PJ's or marketing, there is a real chance Pentax will finally release one.8^) Seriously, I think this post is dead on.

Re: AF, digital and marketing (was Re: *ist D revisited)

2003-06-07 Thread T Rittenhouse
Well, Tom, I used 300dpi as a basis of excellent quality prints, many say 200dpi is enough. I preferred to use a resolution almost no one would quibble about. If you want to make 30x40's from a 1mp image, go ahead, no one is stopping you. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto

RE: AF, digital and marketing (was Re: *ist D revisited)

2003-06-07 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: T Rittenhouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, Tom, I used 300dpi as a basis of excellent quality prints, many say 200dpi is enough. It was resampled and printed at 300dpi. tv

Re: The *ist camera

2003-06-07 Thread whickersworld
Roland Mabo wrote: Many here assumes that the *ist D is not going to be as good as Nikon or Canons DSLR's. I wonder how people will react if it simply outperforms the Nikon D100 and the Canon 10D in terms of image quality... Hi Roland, It will use the same Sony (?) CCD chip as the D100 (this

Re: *ist/*istD are crippled because Pentax kneecapped them (was: *ist Drevisited)

2003-06-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roland wrote: I remember that we had a discussion a while back about an aperture motor inside the FAJ lenses since Pentax seems to have changed the electrical protocol for the aperture, I don't think that we came to an absolute conclusion. REPLY: A Pentax

Re: Take a Guess

2003-06-07 Thread T Rittenhouse
Since you had the AB hung from the ceiling, I will guess you or your assistant dropped that. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 4:31 AM Subject: RE: Take a Guess

Re: AF, digital and marketing (was Re: *ist D revisited)

2003-06-07 Thread Mark Roberts
KT Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03.6.7 10:53 AM, KT Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not know but I was always under the impression that Canon buy CCD for DSLR (Cheaper that way?). I do not think they ever announced who is making their CCD. Perhaps I can check with someone

RE: Take a Guess

2003-06-07 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: T Rittenhouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Since you had the AB hung from the ceiling, I will guess you or your assistant dropped that. Now that would have sucked, and was my biggest fear. I used about 30 feet of geffer's tape to make sure it wasn't going

Re: Take a Guess

2003-06-07 Thread T Rittenhouse
Sync cords don't count. They are throw away items (Ya, I know, they aren't priced that way anymore). Another thing is, your breakage is about par for the course among full time professional photographers. When you are trying to make money, you can not afford to baby your equipment. You use it as

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Christian Skofteland
- Original Message - From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In fact the FAJs are the most miraculous lenses Pentax has ever made. I'm certain I read somewhere that they'd been 'Canonized'. regards, Anthony Farr HAR! Christian

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Christian Skofteland
The review I just read stated something to the effect of: polycarbonate body on an aluminum chassis with magnesium alloy side top and bottom panels for added strength. Tom, shouldn't you be photographing scantily-clad models today? Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message

Re: Cheap 135mm lens?

2003-06-07 Thread U+B Scheffler
Because of several comments I buyed the SMC-M-135/3.5 in jan 2002 for 60 Euros and first was impressed. But in the summer on a biking trip I took a picture that disappointed me and I found that this lens doesn't reproduce enough details. I sold it and got me a SMC-K-135/2.5 with 58mm front. It is

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] incantations??? I knew that SMC glass was reputed to have some magical properties! In fact the FAJs are the most miraculous lenses Pentax has ever made. I'm certain I read somewhere that they'd been 'Canonized'. That

Re: AF, digital and marketing (was Re: *ist D revisited)

2003-06-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7 Jun 2003 at 0:19, KT Takeshita wrote: There is a persistent rumour that Contax N Digital has been discontinued. So the plot thickens :-). Kyocera cut their throat when they introduced the N mount. I wouldn't say they cut their own throat by

Re: AF, digital and marketing (was Re: *ist D revisited)

2003-06-07 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Tom, Tom , Tom; what ever are we going to do with you? This is Pentax digital; as in theoretical, not real tangible images. The good doctors here will explain to you that you can't see what you think you see. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: T Rittenhouse

Re: FA-J lenses (WAS: Re: *ist)

2003-06-07 Thread Brendan
Thank GOD, and all the other Gods for that. --- Pål_Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been told that the FA-J lenses are strictly entry level and that there will be no higher end FA-J lenses. Pål __ Post your

RE: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Peter Alling
Better maybe, infinitely no. Before if I was going to purchase one it would have to be the latter. Now just better will do. At 01:31 AM 6/8/03 +1000, you wrote: On 7 Jun 2003 at 17:18, Pål Jensen wrote: Tom wrote: Ha! The 10D is metal too. REPLY: Isn't this just another case of canons

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Peter Alling
So you're saying that Pål is a Manufacture? (Another rhetorical question). ;) At 12:28 PM 6/7/03 -0400, you wrote: The problem is the word compatibility means different things to different people. Novice user: Everything works. Experienced user: Works like it did on the old bodies. Manufacturer:

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Peter Alling
There is no reason for Pentax to also alienate old users at the same time, they just have however. At 10:34 AM 6/7/03 -0700, you wrote: Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 12:20:38 +0100 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a couple of MXs and some Pentax glass. These items are from a completely

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Peter Alling
AGGG! At 03:21 PM 6/7/03 -0400, you wrote: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] incantations??? I knew that SMC glass was reputed to have some magical properties! In fact the FAJs are the most miraculous lenses Pentax has ever made. I'm

Re: FA-J lenses (WAS: Re: *ist)

2003-06-07 Thread Peter Alling
I wouldn't give thanks until this is proven out. So far Pål only bats in US major league averages when predicting. At 04:01 PM 6/7/03 -0400, you wrote: Thank GOD, and all the other Gods for that. --- Pål_Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been told that the FA-J lenses are strictly entry

Question to *ist owners

2003-06-07 Thread Rüdiger Neumann
Hallo, what happend if you are using a A lens on the *ist and the aperture ring is not in A-position. Is there any difference to a K-mount lens. Will the aperture stop down? Or do behave the A or K mount lens then in the same way? Thanks Rüdiger

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Alan Chan
I suspect that one of the real impetuses behind this move is precision. I believe it is impossible to achieve precise enough aperture control with auto settings via the old K-mount protocol. Obviously, Pentax goes the fullly auto route with the *ists but they have provided choices for those

Re: FA-J lenses (WAS: Re: *ist)

2003-06-07 Thread Brendan
When a situation like this presents it'self. You hope Pal is right, the averages are in out favour and you Pray to every God there is ( and then some, leave no stone unturned ) that it will only be a low end lens. --- Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't give thanks until this is

OT: First Film Scanner

2003-06-07 Thread Christopher Comer
Hey everyone, This is a little off topic but I can't read another post about dslrs. Anywho, I'm thinking about buying an HP S20xi film scanner. It lacks ICE and has questionable build quality but it's easy to find new for around $100. So, for anyone who has owned this scanner, comments

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Alan Chan
As long as the description is ambiguous, they aren't lying. :-) regards, Alan Chan The problem is the word compatibility means different things to different people. Novice user: Everything works. Experienced user: Works like it did on the old bodies. Manufacturer: You can mount it on the body.

RE: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Alan Chan
Speaking of metal, the silver metal shell used on Limited lenses are rather soft compared to K or M lenses. I have found out the construction of the 31 is different from 43 77 too. The latter 2 are closer to manual focus lenses while the mechanical design of the 31 is no different from other

RE: *ist D revisited

2003-06-07 Thread Alan Chan
Ha! The 10D is metal too. REPLY: Isn't this just another case of canons Classic metal scam job? Ultra cheap plastic body with a thin cosmetic metal film on top? Like the Elan 7 or the AE-1 etc. In 6 months time, it won't matter no more because everyone will be talking about the next model.

Re: *ist/*istD are crippled because Pentax kneecapped them (was: *ist Drevisited

2003-06-07 Thread Alan Chan
If they do indeed offer such compatibility I'll expect it on expensive products, not on the *ist and *ist D, entry level for film and digital respectively. But digital DSLRs are expensive products, so far. regards, Alan Chan _ The

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