Re: PAW - Another butterfly

2004-07-22 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 2004-07-22, at 05:31, Christian Skofteland wrote: [...] http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id25.html Very nice butterfly. Nice soft background too. Good DOF. Yup, Sigma 300 is a good tool for bigger insects close-ups of course only if equipped with proper human eye ;-) -- Best regards S

RE: Re (Was Re: Comment and Question (WAS: RE: Apology for............))

2004-07-22 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
hmmm, i always thought that "In re:" meant "in regards to..." which i guess equates to the same meaning as "in reference to..." tan. -Original Message- From: Stan Halpin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 22 July 2004 3:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re (Was Re: Com

Re: Digital vs Film

2004-07-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/7/04, Steve Jolly, discombobulated, offered: >> there's one in every crowd... >> >> you are totally asking for it buddy... >> >> (anyone know of a good hitman in london?) > >My rates are reasonable... :-) > >S yeah but he's a physicist - what's he going to do, *reason* me to death? ;-)

Re: Digital vs Film

2004-07-22 Thread Cotty
On 21/7/04, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, offered: >I was going to offer to do the job for her for the cost of a ticket, but >Cotty kind of scares me... I scare myself. Hey we all get our kicks somehow. >Cotty wrote: > >>On 22/7/04, Tanya Mayer Photography, discombobulated, offered: >> >

Re: TTL Flash for Macros

2004-07-22 Thread Leon Altoff
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:04:36 -0500, Don Sanderson wrote: >I just read an article saying that flash was the best way to shoot macro >shots. >It cited the fact that both faster shutter speed to prevent blur and smaller >aperture for added DOF could be used. >I have several Pentax TTL units to try th

Re: Digital vs Film

2004-07-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/7/04, Steve Jolly, discombobulated, offered: >It's all the chins that make him so scary. Without them he's just like >any other Canon-user... Cheeky bugger!!! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _

Re: Followup to autofocus Super Takumar

2004-07-22 Thread Cotty
On 21/7/04, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, offered: >You have to build it yourself. >You have Photoshop, right? >;-) right. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _

Re: Digital vs Film

2004-07-22 Thread Billy Abbott
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Cotty wrote: On 22/7/04, Steve Jolly, discombobulated, offered: there's one in every crowd... you are totally asking for it buddy... (anyone know of a good hitman in london?) My rates are reasonable... :-) S yeah but he's a physicist - what's he going to do, *reason* me to deat

Re: LX Talk.

2004-07-22 Thread Cotty
On 21/7/04, John Bailey, discombobulated, offered: > >> >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> Cotty >> > >I've always wondered how to do this with my LX and >280T ! > >Thanks It does work, but you have to do a small amount of testing to get the

Re: PDML Mini FAQ (was Re-- Comment and Question (WAS: RE-- Apology for............)

2004-07-22 Thread dagt
To eat the bugs, of course... DagT > Fra: "cbwaters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > why would you put a cat in your computer? > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:32 AM > Subject: Re: PDML Mini FAQ (was Re-- Comment

Re: unsubscribe

2004-07-22 Thread Cotty
On 21/7/04, David Taylor, discombobulated, offered: >please take me off thank yu > You have got to be kidding Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _

Sv: Re: Digital vs Film

2004-07-22 Thread dagt
> Fra: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On 22/7/04, Steve Jolly, discombobulated, offered: > > >> there's one in every crowd... > >> > >> you are totally asking for it buddy... > >> > >> (anyone know of a good hitman in london?) > > > >My rates are reasonable... :-) > > > >S > > yeah but he's a phy

Re: unsubscribe

2004-07-22 Thread dagt
> Fra: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On 21/7/04, David Taylor, discombobulated, offered: > > >please take me off thank yu > > > > You have got to be kidding He doesn't know, does he... DagT

Re: Pentax is still sleeping...

2004-07-22 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: > Well, we have another advanced prosumer digicam with hot-shoe for flash > and image stabilisation: > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0407/04072104panasonicfz20.asp What I don't see is the price (or the need for a lens that only goes to 38 but reaches

Re: not particularly Re: Digital vs Film

2004-07-22 Thread Chris Stoddart
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, William Robb wrote: > Why would anyone wrap a lemon around a lemon? Oooh, meow. Sharp claws there. Excellent :-) Chris

Re: PDML FaQ

2004-07-22 Thread Chris Stoddart
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Antonio wrote: > A consensus is when everyone agres. >From the Cambridge dictionary: consensus noun a generally accepted opinion or decision among a group of people Hope this is helpful? Chris

Re: Pentax is still sleeping...

2004-07-22 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 22.07.04 14:13, Doug Franklin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It's possible that many of the people that buy digital cameras, not > being enthusiasts like we are around here, think of it more as digital > than as camera. Maybe? As a matter of fact many young peoplewould probably consider new cell

Re: PDML FaQ

2004-07-22 Thread Jostein
Antonio, To stick to the case here, I suggest you take a look at eg. Merriam-Webster's online dictionary for the definition of the term "consensus". It says clearly that it is the "general agreement" or "the judgment arrived at by most of those concerned". Not "when everyone agrees". And for that

Re: not particularly Re: Digital vs Film

2004-07-22 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - > From: "Jostein" > Subject: Re: not particularly Re: Digital vs Film > > It's like having you brain smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped > > round a Canon D60...:-) > > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Why would anyone wrap a lemon around a lemon? To

Re: PDML FaQ

2004-07-22 Thread Jostein
Oh sorry, I forgot... Here's a direct link to Merriam-Webster's description: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=consensus&x=19&y=16 Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 2:48 PM

OT Don't feed the animals.

2004-07-22 Thread Rob Studdert
Lets try to keep our heads down until it passes this time guys and girls, just batten down the hatches. We don't want to lose more valuable assets. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ P

Re: OT Don't feed the animals.

2004-07-22 Thread Chris Stoddart
> Lets try to keep our heads down until it passes this time guys and > girls, just batten down the hatches. Yes, you're absolutely right Rob. Sorry. Chris

Re: PDML FaQ

2004-07-22 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Jostein wrote: > When you stick you neck out, be sure to be right, mate. It's kinda > like writing technical documentation. Accuracy determines quality. Actually, can we go back to the kill-file thing? The great thing about it is we do not get his stuff in. If people who find

Re: OT Don't feed the animals.

2004-07-22 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 22.07.04 14:57, Rob Studdert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Lets try to keep our heads down until it passes this time guys and girls, just > batten down the hatches. > > We don't want to lose more valuable assets. Exactly Rob :-) Especially when the animal comes from Tolkien's tales ;-) -- Be

Re: OT Don't feed the animals.

2004-07-22 Thread Steve Jolly
Rob Studdert wrote: Lets try to keep our heads down until it passes this time guys and girls, just batten down the hatches. We don't want to lose more valuable assets. I absolutely second this! If you *have* to reply to a post that angers you, even if it's a personal attack, please could you do

Re: PDML FaQ

2004-07-22 Thread Jostein
Sorry Kostas, and all the rest of the List. Just reinstalled my PC after an HD upgrade, and haven't got the kill-files properly set yet. Will look into it asap. Jostein Kostas wrote: > Actually, can we go back to the kill-file thing? The great thing about > it is we do not get his stuff in.

Re: OT Don't feed the animals.

2004-07-22 Thread Jostein
You're right, Rob My apologies. Jostein - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 2:57 PM Subject: OT Don't feed the animals. > Lets try to keep our heads down until it passes this time guys and girls, just > batte

Re: Re (Was Re: Comment and Question (WAS: RE: Apology for............))

2004-07-22 Thread frank theriault
--- Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > 'in re' is Latin meaning 'in the matter of'. It is a > rather fusty, > legalistic term - it cam into general use from the > law. I personally > would discourage it. It serves no useful purpose and > just sounds archaic > and bureaucratic, if not pompous

Re: unsubscribe

2004-07-22 Thread Norm Baugher
"Welcome to the Hotel California." William Robb wrote: From: "David Taylor" please take me off thank yu Sorry, but that won't happen.

Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-22 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Jul 2004 at 9:33, Chris Stoddart wrote: > So are you suggesting that given a sufficient number of people, then even > in a saturated digital market there is still *SOME* room for film? Or is > it different math I have to do? :-) > > Chris (happy 'cos there's ~60 million people in the UK!)

Dangerous Physicist

2004-07-22 Thread Steve Desjardins
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/22/2004 4:30:24 AM >>> On 22/7/04, Steve Jolly, discombobulated, offered: >> yeah but he's a physicist - what's he going to do, *reason* me to death? > Obviously this is a person who has never had to sit through a two-hour physics class. ;-) You know the old line "Gee P

Re: not particularly Re: Digital vs Film

2004-07-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/7/04, William Robb, discombobulated, offered: >> It's like having you brain smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped >> round a Canon D60...:-) >> > >Why would anyone wrap a lemon around a lemon? At least it's a lemon that you can later add Gin to, and maybe some tonic and IS cubes

Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-22 Thread Jostein
Wow... A gelatine-based supermarket. Amazing! Jostein - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 3:37 PM Subject: Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying? > On 22 Jul 2004 at 9:33, Chris Stoddart wrote: > > >

Re: PDML FaQ

2004-07-22 Thread frank theriault
--- Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "General" consensus means you may NOT have been > asked. > If MOST folks agree, it's added. > If almost everybody complained, it would probably be > removed. > That's what "general consensus" means, you see... > > You're allowed to disagree, but not be

Re: TTL Flash for Macros

2004-07-22 Thread Lon Williamson
I dunno about that. The greater the magnification, the greater your framing and focus will drift when hand-holding. If you keep the flash in the camera hotshoe, you're gonna have a point source of light. Without downward tilt (like the AF280T has), you can loose most of the light and get a shado

Re: Kodak news

2004-07-22 Thread Norm Baugher
Shocking! Norm Mark Roberts wrote: Film sales declining even faster than predicted: Kodak had anticipated a 7-9% drop in film sales by the end of this year but it now looks as if it will be in the region of 10-12%. http://www.rochesterdandc.com/biznews/0722V54VVJK_business.shtml

Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-22 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Jul 2004 at 9:50, Chris Stoddart wrote: > And I am honestly prepared to stand up here in a couple of years(?) and > say "I was wrong" if that's the case and I can't get film without > a struggle anymore. I'll be really, really disappointed that I can't > though. I love shooting film (well t

Pentax 135/2.5 with malfunction?

2004-07-22 Thread Henri Toivonen
I got a good deal on a SMC 135/2.5, very cheap, but it doesn't work properly. The aperture lever on the back isn't working. It moves but doesn't affect the aperture at all. There isn't oil in there, it's somekind of mechanical thing. Clues? Easy to fix? Worth the effort? I would be getting it fo

Re: Pentax is still sleeping...

2004-07-22 Thread frank theriault
--- Sylwester Pietrzyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > . > Maybe? As a matter of fact many young peoplewould > probably consider new cell > phones with buil-in camera as their main photo tool > :-) > Indeed, last year, more cameras were installed and sold in mobile phones, than were manufactured and

Re: TTL Flash for Macros

2004-07-22 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Jul 2004 at 10:04, Lon Williamson wrote: > I think macros are easier with tripods, providing the > subject isn't moving. Ahh, and a 2 D macro rail, heaven (non-denominational of course) :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://

Re: nik Sharpener Pro

2004-07-22 Thread Lon Williamson
I agree about Nik Sharpener Pro. It's the most "no fuss, no muss" sharpening approach out there. Even if better results are obtainable with PhotoKit or Focal Blade, there's too much fuss factor with them. Another product I like along the same line is Grain Surgery. It doesn't do as good a job as N

Re: Pentax 135/2.5 with malfunction?

2004-07-22 Thread Norm Baugher
At that price, and it sounds mechanical, I would think taking a shot on getting it fixed would be well worth it... Norm Henri Toivonen wrote: I got a good deal on a SMC 135/2.5, very cheap, but it doesn't work properly. The aperture lever on the back isn't working. It moves but doesn't affect t

Re: Pentax 135/2.5 with malfunction?

2004-07-22 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Good price. The blades not moving might be because of a disconnected spring or because of an extreme amount of oil on them. Either way it's fixable. Just depends on how you want to handle it and if it's worth it to you. Blades are easily cleaned with lighter fluid. Works very well. Replacing s

Re: TTL Flash for Macros

2004-07-22 Thread Lon Williamson
Christian, have you tried a 2x TC on a fast macro for such shots? I've used the Vivitar Macro 2x TC on both a Kiron 100mm f2.8 macro and the K 135mm f2.5 with surprisingly good results. Christian Skofteland wrote: snip... For extra magnification (2x and beyond) I use stacked lenses but my results

Re: not particularly Re: Digital vs Film

2004-07-22 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Why would anyone wrap a lemon around a lemon? > > At least it's a lemon that you can later add Gin to, and maybe some tonic > and IS cubes LOL. One needs the IS cubes to relieve the Pain tax on the head... nitesoJ (almost s

RE: Pentax is still sleeping...

2004-07-22 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Jul 2004 at 1:10, Alan Chan wrote: > Isn't 1/2.5" CCD a little small for 5MP? Btw, Matsushita > (National/Panasonic/Technics) is one of the biggest companies in Japan. Huge, consolidated net sales as of March 2003 , US$62,331 million Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110

Re: Dangerous Physicist

2004-07-22 Thread frank theriault
--- Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > You know the old line "Gee Professor, I'd skip your > class but I need > the sleep . . ." > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2449971 cheers, frank = "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pess

Re: Pentax 135/2.5 with malfunction?

2004-07-22 Thread frank theriault
--- Norm Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At that price, and it sounds mechanical, I would > think taking a shot on > getting it fixed would be well worth it... > Norm > That lens has such nice bokeh, he'll want to use it wide open all the time anyway... cheers, frank = "The optimist

Re: Sth [Was: Re: LX Talk and Super Program TTL flash override]

2004-07-22 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Jul 2004 at 9:54, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: > Who knows what the jussive subjunctive is? Don't go there! LOL Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer

Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-22 Thread Chris Stoddart
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, Norm Baugher wrote: > Dude, there's around 20 million people in Tokyo. Do the math... So are you suggesting that given a sufficient number of people, then even in a saturated digital market there is still *SOME* room for film? Or is it different math I have to do? :-) Chri

Re: Sv: Re: Digital vs Film

2004-07-22 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
>> yeah but he's a physicist - what's he going to do, *reason* me to death? If I only had a pound for every obscure Monty Python relation here on PDML... ;-) * * * (spoiler: King Arthur and the Green Knight) Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek

Re: unsubscribe

2004-07-22 Thread Peter J. Alling
Can't sorry. David Taylor wrote: please take me off thank yu

My trip to Romania (long)

2004-07-22 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
Hi, I just got back home, from my trip to Romania, so I decided to check on the list :) Except some photographs from the trip, but not too soon - I have returned that early because of an unexpected assignment this weekend, and I plan to go abroad again start of August - this time for

Re: unsubscribe

2004-07-22 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Norm Baugher wrote: > > "Welcome to the Hotel California." > > William Robb wrote: > > >From: "David Taylor" > > > > > >>please take me off thank yu > >> > >> > > > >Sorry, but that won't happen. > > > > LOL! So did any of you wags actually tell him how to do it? David, send an email here

Re: Digital vs Film

2004-07-22 Thread Peter J. Alling
An economist might try to reason you to death. A physicist understands kinetic energy. Cotty wrote: On 22/7/04, Steve Jolly, discombobulated, offered: there's one in every crowd... you are totally asking for it buddy... (anyone know of a good hitman in london?) My rates are reasonable.

Re: Digital vs Film

2004-07-22 Thread Peter J. Alling
Cotty wrote: On 21/7/04, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, offered: I was going to offer to do the job for her for the cost of a ticket, but Cotty kind of scares me... I scare myself. Hey we all get our kicks somehow. That's bad, I just look in the mirror and feel kind of disapointed...

Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Chris Stoddart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Rob Studdert wrote: > >> I think you also have to factor in the mentality too, there are probably 10:1 >> snappers in Japan vs the UK. I do expect that Japanese produced film will >> remain viable there for a while but don't expect tha

Re: PDML Mini FAQ (was Re-- Comment and Question (WAS: RE-- Apology for............)

2004-07-22 Thread Peter J. Alling
In my experience cats don't actually eat bugs, just play with them and leave parts all over the floor. I think that would be bad in the computer. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To eat the bugs, of course... DagT Fra: "cbwaters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> why would you put a cat in your computer? - Ori

Re: First Shots with FA* 200

2004-07-22 Thread Ryan Lee
I haven't been in gusty scrub or windy woods before, but I'll give you points for the endeavour if WA weather is anything like Brissie weather right now. Nights recently got down to 6 and 5 celsius (just waiting for some Inuit PDMLers to go 'hah! That's nothing') and methinks it's just a bit cooler

Re: PDML Mini FAQ (was Re-- Comment and Question (WAS: RE-- Apology for............)

2004-07-22 Thread DagT
As I said, my cats are manipulated, they eat them :-) DagT På 22. jul. 2004 kl. 17.09 skrev Peter J. Alling: In my experience cats don't actually eat bugs, just play with them and leave parts all over the floor. I think that would be bad in the computer. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To eat the bugs,

Texas bound! PDML gathering???

2004-07-22 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
All the plans were finalized yesterday. Last night even! I will be heading to Texas tomorrow. I will be in San Antonio Friday evening through Saturday afternoon. I will be in Houston Saturday evening through Monday morning. I will be in Ft. Worth Monday afternoon through Thursday evening. I f

RE: dcpdml outing #13

2004-07-22 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Well, since I will be in Houston... I will be there in spirit. Cesar Panama City, Florida -Original Message- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 10:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bill Owens; 'Cesar Matamoros (E-mail)'; Cesar Matamoros II; 'Christian Skofteland

Re: Dangerous Physicist

2004-07-22 Thread Steve Jolly
Billy Abbott wrote: http://www.cowfish.org.uk/paw/sjolly.jpg mr jolly is an expert when it comes to sleeping That's Almost-Dr Jolly to you. And at least I don't have an eyebrow fetish. http://www.elvum.net/gallery/gbbf/32_billy_grooms_jakob S

Re: PDML Mini FAQ (was Re-- Comment and Question (WAS: RE-- Apology for............)

2004-07-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Like I've always said, cats are BAD. Dogs are good! Peter J. Alling wrote: In my experience cats don't actually eat bugs, just play with them and leave parts all over the floor. I think that would be bad in the computer.

SMC M 85mm F/2 - Jens?

2004-07-22 Thread John Bailey
Jens, Was that yours (photodane) that sold on Ebay? I meant to bid on it but it got lost in my Ebay/Email shuffle! = jb `:^)

Re: not particularly Re: Digital vs Film

2004-07-22 Thread Peter J. Alling
For the shear kismet. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Jostein" Subject: Re: not particularly Re: Digital vs Film It's like having you brain smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped round a Canon D60...:-) Why would anyone wrap a lemon around a lemon? William Robb

Re: Re (Was Re: Comment and Question (WAS: RE: Apology for............))

2004-07-22 Thread graywolf
Humm? Seems pretty clear to me. re (rê) preposition In reference to; in the case of; concerning. [Latin rê, ablative of rês, thing.] The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from INSO Co

Re: Texas bound! PDML gathering???

2004-07-22 Thread John Bailey
--- Cesar Matamoros II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All the plans were finalized yesterday. Last night > even! I will be heading > to Texas tomorrow. > > I will be in San Antonio Friday evening through > Saturday afternoon. > > I will be in Houston Saturday evening through Monday > morning. >

Re: TTL Flash for Macros

2004-07-22 Thread Lon Williamson
The Vivitar Macro 2x TC I have has about 25mm built-in extension. I _think_ it's a 6-element, Kiron-made TC. It has A contacts, but no autofocus capability. These things go routinely for about $40 to $50 at camera swaps (probably cheaper on eBay), and seem to be quite common. I think Vivitar mar

Re: PDML FaQ

2004-07-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Lon Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Add me to the vocal jerk list. PLEASE. Me too! >When's this guy going to go away? > >Antonio wrote: >> A consensus is when everyone agres. Yet again we see the PDML being dictated >> to and dominated by a few old timers. Given recent events neither gra

Re: Dangerous Physicist

2004-07-22 Thread graywolf
LOL! frank theriault wrote: --- Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> You know the old line "Gee Professor, I'd skip your class but I need the sleep . . ." http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2449971 cheers, frank = "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible wo

Re: Pentax 135/2.5 with malfunction?

2004-07-22 Thread Peter J. Alling
Sounds like a linkage has failed. On a couple of Pentax lenses I've opened up it was a simple bar with a fork that ran up and down the bar. (The aperture lever would move the bar which would move the fork which would stop down the lens). All that was required was to re-seat the fork on the ba

Re: Digital vs Film

2004-07-22 Thread graywolf
In theory. Sorry, no way I could resist that straight line. -- William Robb wrote: He's a physisist. They know how to blow things up don't they? WW -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html

Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-22 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Mark Roberts wrote: > will come down. One person I know in the camera business says he thinks > the reason manufacturers are replacing their 3MP digicams with > 4MP-and-up versions is that they are expecting 3MP phone cameras to > become commonplace before too long. I was tal

Re: TTL Flash for Macros

2004-07-22 Thread Peter J. Alling
Lon recomended the Macro focusing version, (7 element), it's available in K or KA mount, I'd get the KA version if I bought another one. Christian wrote: I should look into the Vivitar 2x TC. Which one would you recommend? I think they have a 7 element version that's supposed to be optically p

Re: TTL Flash for Macros

2004-07-22 Thread Peter J. Alling
Lon recommended the Macro focusing version, (7 element), it's available in K or KA mount, I'd get the KA version if I bought another one. Christian wrote: I should look into the Vivitar 2x TC. Which one would you recommend? I think they have a 7 element version that's supposed to be optically

Re: unsubscribe

2004-07-22 Thread Peter J. Alling
Ann, what's the fun in that? Ann Sanfedele wrote: Norm Baugher wrote: "Welcome to the Hotel California." William Robb wrote: From: "David Taylor" please take me off thank yu Sorry, but that won't happen. LOL! So did any of you wags actually tell him how to do it?

Re: Texas bound! PDML gathering???

2004-07-22 Thread frank theriault
--- John Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- > > What do you do at a gathering? Drink, mostly. How many attendees > are > needed for one? I have a PDML gathering of one, every night at my place. I love looking at the photo > exhibited > at the Amon Carter Museum of Western Art in Ft.

Re: Pentax 135/2.5 with malfunction?

2004-07-22 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Henri Toivonen a écrit : I got a good deal on a SMC 135/2.5, very cheap, but it doesn't work properly. The aperture lever on the back isn't working. It moves but doesn't affect the aperture at all. Is the aperture lever free when you move it ?

Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> will come down. One person I know in the camera business says he thinks >> the reason manufacturers are replacing their 3MP digicams with >> 4MP-and-up versions is that they are expecting 3MP phone camer

Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-22 Thread graywolf
Look, here, us folks in the boonies are already reduced to buying B&W, 120, and 4x5 via mail order. As long as there are a few stores someplace in the world selling the stuff at anything near reasonable prices, I and probably the other 10-15 serious photographers here in town will continue to us

Re: Pentax 135/2.5 with malfunction?

2004-07-22 Thread Henri Toivonen
Michel Carrère-Gée wrote: Henri Toivonen a écrit : I got a good deal on a SMC 135/2.5, very cheap, but it doesn't work properly. The aperture lever on the back isn't working. It moves but doesn't affect the aperture at all. Is the aperture lever free when you move it ? It's not available for me

RE: Texas bound! PDML gathering???

2004-07-22 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
-Original Message- From: John Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 11:23 AM --- Cesar Matamoros II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I will be in San Antonio Friday evening through > Saturday afternoon. > > I will be in Houston Saturday evening through Monday > morni

Re: PDML FaQ

2004-07-22 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Antonio, Consider me to be one of the silent majority. I have not kill filed you and even read some of your posts. You do come across as a bit hot headed and wanting to attack, however. I have been on the list for many years and know the style and feel of this list. The concept that was

Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-22 Thread Norm Baugher
I've never heard of one of those either, is it a sandwich? Norm graywolf wrote: someone who is in the market for a plastic Timex probably never even heard of a Patti-Phillip

Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Isn't Patti-Phillip a rock diva? graywolf wrote: Look, here, us folks in the boonies are already reduced to buying B&W, 120, and 4x5 via mail order. As long as there are a few stores someplace in the world selling the stuff at anything near reasonable prices, I and probably the other 10-15 serio

Re: TTL Flash for Macros

2004-07-22 Thread Tom Reese
Don Sanderson asked: "I just read an article saying that flash was the best way to shoot macro shots. It cited the fact that both faster shutter speed to prevent blur and smaller aperture for added DOF could be used. I have several Pentax TTL units to try this out with. Have any of you tried this?

Re: TTL Flash for Macros

2004-07-22 Thread Tom Reese
Christian wrote: "In my experience, hand-holding is required for bug macros and for this reason flash is needed 95% of the time. to avoid the point source problem or the lens shading problem, a bracket that puts the flash out OVER the front of the lens is needed. I built my first one and have re

Re: unsubscribe

2004-07-22 Thread Malcolm Smith
Ann Sanfedele wrote: > LOL! > So did any of you wags actually tell him how to do it? > > David, send an email here (if you are still on > list) > put "unsubscribe" in the subject line and you are outta here > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Funny people can subscribe and not unsubscribe. I had a quick look

Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Like Pentak, Patek Philippe has had a tough time in the market of late, but is looking forward to a turnaround: http://www.fhs.ch/en/news/news.php?id=321&PHPSESSID=19d3e81bacbbe71876387544d5b8dce6 Like Douglas Adams, I distain digital watches, but I prefer 50 year old mechanical Breitlings to Pa

Re: PDML FaQ

2004-07-22 Thread frank theriault
--- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Antonio, > > Consider me to be one of the silent majority. I > have not kill filed > you and even read some of your posts. You do come > across as a bit hot > headed and wanting to attack, however. I have been > on the list for > many years an

Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-22 Thread graywolf
Just bad spelling, or memory, on my part. Patek Phillippe is what I meant. http://www.patek.com/ And you thought cameras were expensive. -- Norm Baugher wrote: I've never heard of one of those either, is it a sandwich? Norm graywolf wrote: someone who is in the market for a plastic Timex probably n

Re: unsubscribe

2004-07-22 Thread frank theriault
--- Malcolm Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe there are some groups where you have to ask to > be unsubscribed? > Hi, Malcolm, Yeah, I think that may be the case. IIRC, when I unsubbed from LUG, I didn't have to go to their website, I just posted with the subject line "unsubscribe"

Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-22 Thread Jerry Todd
I agree with Mr. Graywolf here. There is something quite wonderful about those old cameras, something lasting and solid about their feel. And film has qualities that are not found in digital images. Yes, I know all about how to add grain and use different plugins to simulate film, but it's like

Re: PDML FAQ is up

2004-07-22 Thread graywolf
I almost put that down, then I thought, "Do we want everyone posting one of these every week?" GRIN! -- Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! g> http://graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html Tom, thumbs up. I think that WOW is Workshop Of the Week though. But I may be wrong, as usual ... Thanks. Boris ([EMAI

RE: nik Sharpener Pro

2004-07-22 Thread Tom C
For Digital Velvia... http://www.fredmiranda.com/shopping/DV I've only had it for a couple of days so have only used it on a couple of images. Tom C. From: "Jerry Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: nik Sharpener Pro Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 1

Re: PDML FAQ is up

2004-07-22 Thread graywolf
Has to become common usage before it gets immortalized. "Never, ever, volunteer for nothing. Didn't I learn that in the Air Force more than 40 years ago. A damn fool! That's what I am..." -- Jostein wrote: - Original Message - From: "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Crusty Old Fart",

Re: PDML Mini-FAQ

2004-07-22 Thread graywolf
Just seeing if you are awake. I pay for the site, that means I shouldn't have to spell it correctly as well. -- Don Sanderson wrote: How about this one instead: (It works) ;-) http://graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html

Re: PDML FaQ

2004-07-22 Thread Norm Baugher
Frank, he doesn't give a shit, he's just trolling. Norm frank theriault wrote: Now, Antonio, I'll address this to you,

RE: PAW - Another butterfly

2004-07-22 Thread Tom C
Nice shot... I find myself wishing for slower ISO settings on the *istD... though I do appreciate being able to crank it up on the fly. Tom C. From: "Christian Skofteland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: PAW - Another butterfly Date: Wed, 21 Jul

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