Re: Safe saving

2006-07-08 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 05:27:01PM +1200, David Mann wrote: On Jul 8, 2006, at 4:23 AM, John Francis wrote: One or other of the Smart Undelete utilities is your friend. Even now, after the fact, you may be lucky enough to be able to recover the deleted file, but you're far better off if

Re: OT: Tent camping

2006-07-08 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 10:40:21PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: Bob W wrote: People do keep them as pets, however. My eldest daughter had one. She called him Trotsky. The apple doesn't fall far... Indeed. I was rather alarmed in another thread to learn that your cat is called Patch.

Re: PEOW: Great Blue Heron Portrait

2006-07-08 Thread Keith McGuinness
I like the photo a lot but, alas, I don't think that the bird is very attractive! Keith McG Jay Taylor wrote: Here's a shot taken a couple months back with the *istDS with the FA*300 f4.5 stacked with the F1.7X Adapter. This combo gives me a 510mm focal length and is not too shabby

Re: PESO - Brothers

2006-07-08 Thread Cotty
On 7/7/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: No Paul, there's not a lot of empty space on top. Their ID and information papers take up some of the top part of the frame, which is, imo as the photographer, is an important part of their story. Otherwise they're just a couple of cats in

Re: PESO - Brothers

2006-07-08 Thread Cotty
On 7/7/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: What you can see tells you what you need to know. Arrogant bollocks!!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: PESO - Brothers

2006-07-08 Thread Keith McGuinness
I didn't look at the photo, so I can't comment on it. But I do get bothered by people telling me what they think I need to know. Keith McG Cotty wrote: On 7/7/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: What you can see tells you what you need to know. Arrogant bollocks!!! --

Re: PESO - Brothers

2006-07-08 Thread Keith McGuinness
It was a cat photo; that's enough for me! I think all pet photos should carry a warning in the subject line: [pet]. That way I could bin them more easily! I have no doubt that some of them are excellent photos but they simply do not interest me. Keith McG Cotty wrote: On 7/7/06, Shel

Re: PEOW: Great Blue Heron Portrait

2006-07-08 Thread Don Williams
There is something sinister and frightening about that bird -- in focus or out. Don Keith McGuinness wrote: I like the photo a lot but, alas, I don't think that the bird is very attractive! Keith McG Jay Taylor wrote: Here's a shot taken a couple months back with the *istDS with the

RE: OT: Why do you take pictures?

2006-07-08 Thread Jens Bladt
Actually, it is a very good question. I believe many people (consumers) only take pictures, when ever there's a family event to remember - a birthday or some sort of family get together. And they only photograph people they know. So, when I'm photographing strangers, they start to wonder why. I

Re: OT: Why do you take pictures?

2006-07-08 Thread keith_w
Jens Bladt wrote: Actually, it is a very good question. I believe many people (consumers) only take pictures, when ever there's a family event to remember - a birthday or some sort of family get together. And they only photograph people they know. So, when I'm photographing strangers, they

OT: The arab family

2006-07-08 Thread Jens Bladt
I was doing panoramas near my home town, by the sea. In a small recreational area at a boat club, there was an Arab family (from Palestine and Lebanon) enjoying the nice weather and eachothers company. All the men came to me and asked me why I was photographing. They behaved as if they believed, I

RE: PEOW: Great Blue Heron Portrait

2006-07-08 Thread Jens Bladt
WOW, amazing photograph, Jay. I wish I could get shots like this ;-) Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Don Williams Sendt: 8. juli 2006 09:09 Til:

RE: OT: Why do you take pictures?

2006-07-08 Thread Bob W
[...] Once a famous photographer, who died suddenly, left behind thousands of photographs showing a white cup. The journalists started to wonder why. They began speculations abuot weather the photographer had gone mad or perhaps was looking for some mystery - a message form the

Re: testWVL

2006-07-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill, Your post made it. Can you read this return? Sent via list direct too. Regards, Bob S. On 7/8/06, Bill Lawlor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: testWVL I have not received list trafic since July 3. Bill Lawlor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: 50 Megapixels of GFM

2006-07-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Boris Liberman wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/multi-02a.jpg (200kb!) Mark, there is great amount of minute detail on this shot. Usually digital has problems past certain level of resolution combined with certain size of (big) enlargement. When I visited Jostein two years ago we

Re: PESO: 50 Megapixels of GFM

2006-07-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Pretty darn cool. I'd like to see a 25x50 inch print... :-) At 240ppi it works out to 23 x 45 inches :) I'm tempted... -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Bird Girl of Delhi - site comments

2006-07-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Well those are no good. NOT! ;-) Regards, Bob S. On 7/8/06, David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 7, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, David Mann wrote: I decided in the end to keep the thumbnails entirely hidden until the viewer clicks a

RE: OT: Why do you take pictures?

2006-07-08 Thread Jens Bladt
I can't say that I disagree. As I have said - I'm not an artist - art is not my ambition. Still some journalistic photographs may very well be regarded as art. Like my favorite example American Girl in Italy, by Ruth Orkin. It's so brilliant I initially thought it was staged. It isn't, it's a snap

Re: PESO - Brothers

2006-07-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 7, 2006, at 10:16 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/brothers.html DS w/K24/2.8 I usually don't look at these kinds of pictures very deeply. Not that I dislike pets or cats or dogs, only that such photos of people's pets only occasionally do much for me.

Re: OT: The arab family

2006-07-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 8, 2006, at 2:39 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: I was doing panoramas near my home town, by the sea. In a small recreational area at a boat club, there was an Arab family (from Palestine and Lebanon) enjoying the nice weather and eachothers company. All the men came to me and asked me why

Re: Bird Girl of Delhi - site comments

2006-07-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 7, 2006, at 10:25 PM, David Mann wrote: OK, here's a set I threw together a while ago. http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/galleries/view.php?g=30 I just uploaded the background textures, which I must have forgotten to do when I restructured the site recently. That's a nice

OT: Tent camping

2006-07-08 Thread Jerome Reyes
Marnie, Off the top of my head here are some thoughts from my 6 week camping trip 3 years ago... Rechargeable flashlights and other accessories *seem* like a good idea, but they don't seem to last as long as when they're powered by regular batteries. They also don't seem to give much warning

Re: OT: The arab family

2006-07-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jens, I think Godfrey is right, about the panorama too! It reminds me of the painting Sunday in the Park by George Seurat. The portraits are very revealing. Much more so than the excellent work you showed of the town folk for your slide presentation. I got the feeling that these people were a

PESO - dodge ball tournament

2006-07-08 Thread Russell Kerstetter
this photo I cannot decide if I like or not I have spent a lot of time with Picasa messing with it, and have never been satisfied with what I came up with. For this version I hit I'm Feeling Lucky and decided to wait for comments before spending more time on it. I like it because shows the

Re: PESO - first peso

2006-07-08 Thread Russell Kerstetter
Thank you for the comments. Mark- I would like to see your No Swimming, but I did not find it on your site Paul Stenquist- I agree that this shot is muddy, as you say. And since I am relatively new to this, you must pardon my silly questions. Is the muddiness due to the BW conversion that I

RE: PESO - first peso

2006-07-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi, A couple of things. The tonality is muddy and flat. At first glance it seems that a little more contrast would be helpful. A couple of questions/comments: have you ever seen exhibition quality BW silver prints? If not, hie the to a museum or gallery and see what they look like and the

RE: OT: Why do you take pictures?

2006-07-08 Thread Bob W
Yes, that's a very striking photo. When I first saw it years ago I thought it was not staged, but in fact I think it was staged. Here is something about the staging: http://www.zonezero.com/magazine/articles/mraz/mraz04.html -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PESO - dodge ball tournament

2006-07-08 Thread David Savage
I like. Don't ask me why though. Dave :-) On 7/8/06, Russell Kerstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this photo I cannot decide if I like or not I have spent a lot of time with Picasa messing with it, and have never been satisfied with what I came up with. For this version I hit I'm Feeling

Re: PESO - Brothers

2006-07-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'll play with the crop some more. Your suggestion seems a little tight for me, but I can see that it can definitely benefit from some tightening up. Thanks! Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/brothers.html I usually don't look at these

RE: PESO - dodge ball tournament

2006-07-08 Thread Bob W
The arm in the foreground obscures too much of the people in the background for the picture to be 100% successful, otherwise it is very good. I agree with Shel about the black background and blue text. I think you should spell consistently (and correctly) too (avocado, no avacado) -- Cheers,

Re: PESO -- Portrait (inspired by Shel's portrait)

2006-07-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bruce Dayton wrote: Hello mike, The one aspect of this shot that is interesting is that the environment is rather unusual and so the bad lighting and snapshot look to it actually bring this out even more. Certainly as an image goes, this is sub par, but it may be a good indication of who

Re: PESO - dodge ball tournament

2006-07-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 8, 2006, at 7:06 AM, Russell Kerstetter wrote: this photo I cannot decide if I like or not I have spent a lot of time with Picasa messing with it, and have never been satisfied with what I came up with. For this version I hit I'm Feeling Lucky and decided to wait for comments before

Re: OT: Why do you take pictures?

2006-07-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: RE: OT: Why do you take pictures? The lesson I learned was, that lots of people don't look at the photographs as such. They look at the people IN the photographs. Photographs as such are not at all interesting - to most people. A

PESO: Sun Shadow

2006-07-08 Thread Jack Davis
Would appreciate y'all taking a look and sending along your reaction/repulsion. Taken 10 years ago on a foggy AM at Crater Lake, OR. I've always felt a little guilty about the donut shadow. Should I? Mamiya 6, 75mm lens on T-Max 100. Seeking comments. Jack

Re: PESO - first peso

2006-07-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
I would think the muddiness is a function of the conversion. There are many conversion methods that work well. If you're working in PhotoShop, try using the channel mixer for a start. Just cick on monochrome and work with the three channels to get a pleasing effect. Click on the monochrome

Re: PESO: Sun Shadow

2006-07-08 Thread Adam Maas
Beautiful shot. -Adam Jack Davis wrote: Would appreciate y'all taking a look and sending along your reaction/repulsion. Taken 10 years ago on a foggy AM at Crater Lake, OR. I've always felt a little guilty about the donut shadow. Should I? Mamiya 6, 75mm lens on T-Max 100. Seeking comments.

Re: PESO -- Portrait (inspired by Shel's portrait)

2006-07-08 Thread Doug Brewer
On Jul 8, 2006, at 1:09 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I think it's great. Technically, it wonts for quite a bit, but the characterization is excellent. Godfrey On Jul 7, 2006, at 2:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/chris.jpg I know it shows the person,

Re: PESO: Sun Shadow

2006-07-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
I like the photo, but don't understand the shadow. How do you get such? Looks wierd. Regards, Bob S. On 7/8/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would appreciate y'all taking a look and sending along your reaction/repulsion. Taken 10 years ago on a foggy AM at Crater Lake, OR. I've

Do not warm colours

2006-07-08 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
William, I hope you are reading this :-) I once suggested to my photolab that the rose I had shot (neg) looked too yellow compared to reality. They suggested that I mark my mail-forms do not warm colours and so I have been doing over the past 4 years. I know that photolabs add yellow to warm

RE: PESO: Sun Shadow

2006-07-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yep, that sun shadow thing is a great distraction. Adds nothing to the photo, imo, and takes away from some subtle details in the background. Shel [Original Message] From: Jack Davis Taken 10 years ago on a foggy AM at Crater Lake, OR. I've always felt a little guilty about the donut

Re: Do not warm colours

2006-07-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: Do not warm colours William, I hope you are reading this :-) I once suggested to my photolab that the rose I had shot (neg) looked too yellow compared to reality. They suggested that I mark my mail-forms do not warm colours

Re: OT: Why do you take pictures?

2006-07-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Gawd yes! (remembering slide shows of certain friends' vacations) There was ~always~ one or the other standing rigidly in front of some tourist attraction or scene. And the narrative, with every slide, would be This is Cathy standing in front of ... Here's Ron in front of ... as if we, the

RE: PESO: Sun Shadow

2006-07-08 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Shel. Guess I knew that all along. Jack --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, that sun shadow thing is a great distraction. Adds nothing to the photo, imo, and takes away from some subtle details in the background. Shel [Original Message] From: Jack Davis

RE: PESO -- Portrait (inspired by Shel's portrait)

2006-07-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi, I like the rough, gritty style. My only nit is that I'd like to see a little more of what's lower, maybe the entire TV set - not because I need or want the information, just that it may offer a somewhat better balance to the photo. Maybe - just maybe - open the shadow and darker areas just

Re: PESO: Sun Shadow

2006-07-08 Thread Jack Davis
That was the question. The sun is in the center of the shadow, but essentially invisible. I saw this weird shadow in my mind with my first look at the developed image. Finally had to put it there with the burn tool. That's the reason for the (slight) guilt feeling. It's surprising how many look

Re: PESO - dodge ball tournament

2006-07-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Russell Kerstetter wrote: this photo I cannot decide if I like or not http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/pic05.html I like it. It looks like something Frank Theriault would do if he shot color! (That's a compliment, by the way...) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com

Re: Do not warm colours

2006-07-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: What I am wondering is if (with a Frontier minilab in this case) it is trivial to not warm colours. Yes. Any lab that can't or won't is a place to be avoided. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

PESO: Tricked Up Poppy

2006-07-08 Thread Jack Davis
Have a twinge of guilt about this image, also. Any idea why? (assuming you feel like playing) All comments appreciated. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=123 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam

Re: PESO -- Portrait (inspired by Shel's portrait)

2006-07-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Doug Brewer wrote: I agree with Godfrey on this one. At times we get so caught up in the technical aspects that we fail to appreciate the photos. This is one of those rare photos that manage to overcome the technical rules to show us the subject properly. In fact, it could be argued that

Re: OT: Tent camping

2006-07-08 Thread mike wilson
From: Jerome Reyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also invest in a good mattress. Some opt for the foam / rubber pads which are okay... but I was gone for so long that I opted for an air mattress (my tent was that big). It was comfortable, but the extreme changes in temperature a few nights made it

Re: OT: Why do you take pictures?

2006-07-08 Thread P. J. Alling
But so few people make a good meatloaf these days anyway... Shel Belinkoff wrote: Gawd yes! (remembering slide shows of certain friends' vacations) There was ~always~ one or the other standing rigidly in front of some tourist attraction or scene. And the narrative, with every slide, would be

Re: OT: The arab family

2006-07-08 Thread Carlos Royo
Jens Bladt wrote: All the children and women wanted me to take their pictures, which I eventually did. They didn't come out very well, though as I wasn't really equipped to do portraits. I on had the RTF flash (D and DL), which I'm not familiar with at all. I used a FA* 2.0 24mm and a FA 1.8

Re: OT: Tent camping

2006-07-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
JErome - I very much enjoyed browsing your trip -- I wish the pics each had captions re where you took them easier to say which photos I liked best for one thing :) As I'm an ardent road trip gal, and have traveled those routes as well, it really was enjoyable... It is a big project -- I

Re: Do not warm colours

2006-07-08 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
Many thanks, William and Mark. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: OT: Why do you take pictures?

2006-07-08 Thread Amita Guha
The lesson I learned was, that lots of people don't look at the photographs as such. They look at the people IN the photographs. Photographs as such are not at all interesting - to most people. A good photograph is a photograph that shows a relative or a friend the way the he or she wants to

RE: PESO: Tricked Up Poppy

2006-07-08 Thread Bob W
Yes - originally it was a black white photograph of a Victorian industrial coking and smelting plant in operation, but you've tweaked it with Photoshop into a colourful picture of a flower. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Mrs. Mozart

2006-07-08 Thread Bob W
A fascinating photograph in today's Guardian of Mozart's widow: http://arts.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,1815753,00.html I had no idea they had digital cameras back then. Cheers, Bobageno -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: PESO: Tricked Up Poppy

2006-07-08 Thread Jack Davis
Close. LOL J --- Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes - originally it was a black white photograph of a Victorian industrial coking and smelting plant in operation, but you've tweaked it with Photoshop into a colourful picture of a flower. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message-

Re: OT: Tent camping

2006-07-08 Thread Jerome Reyes
JErome - I very much enjoyed browsing your trip -- Thanks, Ann. I'm glad you enjoyed. I wish the pics each had captions re where you took them easier to say which photos I liked best for one thing :) I *just* created the just see photos link about a week ago, so those don't have captions

Brick wall shot

2006-07-08 Thread Bob W
Somebody has recently painted some spectacular graffiti on about 100m of wall on one of the wharves near my house. I photographed the full length of it today, and might do a panorama. Here's an excerpt http://www.web-options.com/P7080771.jpg You can see the shadow of my magnificent head in it,

OT canon pro-1 and viewfinder comparisons

2006-07-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Happened into the local Micro Center electronics store and found they had one Canon Pro-1 camera left. It's an in-case demo unit. If Ann or anyone else would like it, I found they would let me have it for $610 plus tax. --- I was curious ... they had the Konica Minolta 7D, Olympus E500,

PESO -- Untitled VI now in BW was [Re: PESO -- Untitled VI]

2006-07-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Alright Ann, here it is in BW. http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_untitledvi%5Bbw%5D.html Same technical data as before if anyone wants details about the conversion I'll post separately. As usual yadda, yadda, yadda... Ann Sanfedele wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: I'm not sure I

RE: Color Cast Question

2006-07-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
As noted elsewhere, the cast may have resulted from two or more light sources (daylight, tungsten, fluorescent). Also, I sometimes work on photos very late at night, when my eyes are tired, and I may miss some subtleties. A color cast can come from a lot of sources actually, I don't know

Re: OT: Tent camping

2006-07-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jerome, I enjoyed the photos on a quick browse, some are spectacular! I see you learned to listen to those inner voices the hard way. You shoulda paid the $200 for stiches though... Regards, Bob S. On 7/8/06, Jerome Reyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JErome - I very much enjoyed browsing your

Re: PESO -- Untitled VI now in BW was [Re: PESO -- Untitled VI]

2006-07-08 Thread Russell Kerstetter
I like it better BW than color russell -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: OT: Why do you take pictures?

2006-07-08 Thread Russell Kerstetter
I do not have internet at home, so I do all my trolling at work, and I am frequently asked when looking at PESO's why I am looking at a picture of a dead tree, or a barn or whatever. Also, when I got my DL, one fo the first questions I was asked: Can it also do video? And right after that I was

Re: OT: Why do you take pictures?

2006-07-08 Thread Russell Kerstetter
oh, and to answer the question i don't know, maybe because it's fun to create, and i can't paint either. russell -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Moon Over Bluff Mountain

2006-07-08 Thread Kenneth Waller
Still one of my favorite mountain shots I can see why Mark. I love the simplicity! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Moon Over Bluff Mountain http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm Taken three years ago. Still one of my favorite

RE: PESO: Sun Shadow

2006-07-08 Thread Jack Davis
An additional reply comment after re-reading your reaction post. The subtle pines images seen at the lower right were the only background available. Saw nothing of the lake, island or rim. Just dense fog for 'prox 24 hrs. The point that nothing was sacrificed I thought worth making. To me, the

RE: OT: Why do you take pictures?

2006-07-08 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russell Kerstetter Sent: 08 July 2006 22:01 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Why do you take pictures? I do not have internet at home, so I do all my trolling at work, and I am

Re: Re: OT: Why do you take pictures?

2006-07-08 Thread mike wilson
From: Russell Kerstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/07/08 Sat PM 09:01:21 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Why do you take pictures? I do not have internet at home, so I do all my trolling at work, and I am frequently asked when looking at PESO's why I

Re: PESO: 50 Megapixels of GFM

2006-07-08 Thread brooksdj
Super job Mark. Its like i'm right there.:-) Oh, didi i mention I liked your presentation very much. Dave On Jul 7, 2006, at 5:19 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Final image is about 10,000 x 5000 pixels. http://www.robertstech.com/temp/multi-02a.jpg

PESO - Farmer's Market

2006-07-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Here is another web album on Picassa of the farmer's market this morning. I took about 30 pictures in raw and have spent too much time converting them. First I did 30 raw into jpegs, then highlight reduction on the jpegs. Uploaded from full 4 meg jpegs to a reduced size by Picassa.

Re: OT: Tent camping

2006-07-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/7/2006 6:38:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll enjoy your trip from the shots you bring back - well, I'll check the lottery tonight though - who knows? :) ann Actually, it's going to be multiple trips,

10-17mm Review

2006-07-08 Thread Jack Davis
FYI, Aug issue of Pop Photo has very positive review of the Pentax 10~17mm f/3.5-4.5 DA fisheye zoom written by Herbert Kepler. As might be expected, older 17~28mm f/3.5-4.5 F fisheye, also, approvingly referenced for comparison. Pg 48 Jack __ Do

Re: New K bodies listed on B

2006-07-08 Thread John Forbes
$1,000/pound. What rubbish. On that basis an airfare for a human being would be $150,000. I do wish people would think before making such crazy assertions. John On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 00:51:09 +0100, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, Shel's accurate on this one, they come over by the

Re: 10-17mm Review

2006-07-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: 10-17mm Review FYI, Aug issue of Pop Photo has very positive review of the Pentax 10~17mm f/3.5-4.5 DA fisheye zoom written by Herbert Kepler. As might be expected, older 17~28mm f/3.5-4.5 F fisheye, also, approvingly referenced for

Re: PESO - Farmer's Market

2006-07-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice. I want some of those Chanterelles. A few peppers to go with them as well, please. Paul On Jul 8, 2006, at 6:21 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Here is another web album on Picassa of the farmer's market this morning. I took about 30 pictures in raw and have spent too much time converting

Re: 10-17mm Review

2006-07-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Since it's a fisheye, one would expect that. No? On Jul 8, 2006, at 7:01 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: 10-17mm Review FYI, Aug issue of Pop Photo has very positive review of the Pentax 10~17mm f/3.5-4.5 DA fisheye zoom written by Herbert

RE: PESO - Farmer's Market

2006-07-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Bob, Do your work in the raw converter, not on converted JPEGs. When you get the hang of RAW you'll be able to reduce the time you spend on making conversions substantially. Get The Book. Bob, yesterday I converted something like 30+ pics using a new and an established preset in the ACR

Re: PESO - Farmer's Market

2006-07-08 Thread Steve Sharpe
I can see better results in terms of details in the highlights, but this is starting to be work not fun. :-( Comments and sugestions would be appreciated. Ummm...film? :^) (Ducks and runs...) __ PDML Pentax-Digital Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net --

Re: PESO - Farmer's Market

2006-07-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'll second that. RAW conversion becomes almost an automatic with some practice. And you shouldn't have to reduce highlights after conversion. Unless you're really short of storage space, you should be converting your RAW files to tiffs, not jpegs. On Jul 8, 2006, at 7:10 PM, Shel Belinkoff

RE: PESO - Farmer's Market

2006-07-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Nothing comes up for me tried it three times. Shel [Original Message] From: Bob Sullivan Here is another web album on Picassa of the farmer's market this morning. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/FarmerSMarket02 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: 10-17mm Review

2006-07-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: 10-17mm Review Since it's a fisheye, one would expect that. No? Some, but this is really bad... William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PEOW: Great Blue Heron Portrait

2006-07-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
My feelings exactly - excellent shot, but ugly bird. I was thinking these birds were nicer looking - perhaps only at a distance. -- Bruce Friday, July 7, 2006, 11:34:04 PM, you wrote: KM I like the photo a lot but, alas, I don't think that the bird is KM very attractive! KM Keith McG KM

Re: 10-17mm Review

2006-07-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
That's interesting. The DA 12-24, which is a rectilinear, shows minimal barrel distortion. Paul On Jul 8, 2006, at 7:22 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: 10-17mm Review Since it's a fisheye, one would expect that. No? Some, but this

Re: PESO - first peso

2006-07-08 Thread Russell Kerstetter
I would think the muddiness is a function of the conversion. that's what i thought. Earlier this afternoon, I recalled someone made a comment about a different PESO with a BW conversion, that it reminded him a photo that used to be color. I think that applies to this one as well. Also, I am

Re: 10-17mm Review

2006-07-08 Thread Jack Davis
It's a major thing with him that Pentax makes (seems they're the only maker) a zoom fisheye. Gets off on the idea that it affords one the option of 'tuning' the image distortion, to some extent. Jack --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jack Davis

Re: PESO - dodge ball tournament

2006-07-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Russell, I think the real issue for me is that arm right up front, getting in the way of some of the picture. If you can do something about that, it might be worth working on. To just leave it there, I think weakens the picture too much. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, July 8, 2006,

Re: PESO - first peso

2006-07-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm not an expert in the area of BW filtration, but I believe a green filter will lighten foliage but darken skin tones. That could be part of your problem. Shoot without a filter until you get yoru bearings on a standard conversion. The less you have to deal with at first, the better.

Re: OT: Tent camping

2006-07-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Jerome Reyes wrote: meanwhile -- wehre were you exactly when you too the last two of a mountain on the thumbnail page. I think the one over the lake is Reinier, right? Yes, that's Rainier (as far as I know). The one with the clouds...

Re: PESO: Sun Shadow

2006-07-08 Thread Jack Davis
Okay, just so everyone will be able to sleep tonight, I'm going to divulge the answer. It's a positive print of a color negative. Probably Kodak Ektar 100. Simply noticed on a light box. Has confused a couple of lab scanners in its time. Sold a few. Jack --- Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: OT: Why do you take pictures?

2006-07-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Jens Bladt wrote: I can't say that I disagree. As I have said - I'm not an artist - art is not my ambition. Still some journalistic photographs may very well be regarded as art. Like my favorite example American Girl in Italy, by Ruth Orkin. It's so brilliant I initially thought it was

Re: PESO: Sun Shadow

2006-07-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Jack, The tree looks very interesting. The shadow thing doesn't even look real to me - very odd looking. I think it has a major negative impact on what otherwise might be a great photograph. -- Bruce Saturday, July 8, 2006, 7:33:45 AM, you wrote: JD Would appreciate y'all taking a

Re: 50 Megapixels of GFM

2006-07-08 Thread Kenneth Waller
Since Panorama maker will only accommodate a maximum of four images per row... Mark IIRC, I've stitched six images in one row in Panorama Maker. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: 50 Megapixels of GFM Here's another multi-image

Re: Re: OT: Why do you take pictures?

2006-07-08 Thread Russell Kerstetter
P.S. I think you mean surfing or maybe browsing, not trolling.. yes i suppose you are correct to me trolling has two connotations: a troll, but also poking about hoping to find something interesting, like when fishing but according to the wikipedia, there is only the one

PAW: Reactions

2006-07-08 Thread Jens Bladt
Somtimes people react very differently to the sam event. I saw this a an outdoor consert, where the band wasw playing Steven Reich compostions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/185094507/ Regards Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by

Re: PESO: Tricked Up Poppy

2006-07-08 Thread Jack Davis
Okay, so you'll get some sleep tonight, I'll tell you this is a positive print of a color negative. I clicked on the wrong subject in my first attempt to reveal the answer. Guess it was due to me excitement. Jack --- Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have a twinge of guilt about this image,

Re: PESO - first peso

2006-07-08 Thread Russell Kerstetter
I do shoot filterless, I meant that was the filter used in the conversion i think that it helped to highlight the bird. which i suppose needing to highlight the bird is more evidence that Picasa isn't my best choice for BW conversions russell -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: Sun Shadow

2006-07-08 Thread Jack Davis
Never mind! J --- Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, just so everyone will be able to sleep tonight, I'm going to divulge the answer. It's a positive print of a color negative. Probably Kodak Ektar 100. Simply noticed on a light box. Has confused a couple of lab scanners in its

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