Re: *istD-flaws

2005-02-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 1 Feb 2005 at 0:00, Kenneth Waller wrote: > Re: > *ist D CF card removal: > > Just looked @ my Nikon 5700. It has the same CF card orientation as my > *ist D - the lip on the card is oriented toward the back of the camera making > it > harder to remove than if it was in the front. It's no

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-02-01 Thread Kenneth Waller
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Jan 31, 2005 11:59 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: *istD-flaws On 31 Jan 2005 at 22:16, Mark Cassino wrote: > Well, shut my mouth and call me slappy, it looks like this has been vented at > length. > > Not that I'd _want_ them to pick

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-02-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
As I said about the DS, it would be nice. I don't feel it terribly important for my needs, the DS does well enough. Godfrey --- Peter Loveday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > if you think the *ist DS image buffer is too shallow and > slow try a *ist D __

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-31 Thread Peter J. Alling
Be kinda hard since he never handled it, and thus couldn't compare it to his D70. Oh, well. I guess I'm being Judgmental again, and damn it all I promised not to say anything more about the subject. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Mark Cassino" Subj

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-31 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Mark Cassino" Subject: Re: *istD-flaws Well, shut my mouth and call me slappy, it looks like this has been vented at length. Not that I'd _want_ them to pick up on it - but wouldn't this be a more relevant gripe for reviewers than &q

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-31 Thread John Francis
Peter Loveday mused: > > Out of interest, how has it been improved in the DS, any idea? Is it > compressed, or no padding, or both? It's improved on the *ist-DS; the camera estimates 97 RAW files per GB, I believe (vs. 73 on the *ist-D, IIRC), and generally does significantly better than that.

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-31 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Herb Chong" Subject: Re: *istD-flaws the Canon 1Ds Mk2 with a 16MP sensor outputs RAW files approximately 16MB in size. That sounds like they are being consistent, anyway. William Robb

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-31 Thread Rob Studdert
On 31 Jan 2005 at 22:16, Mark Cassino wrote: > Well, shut my mouth and call me slappy, it looks like this has been vented at > length. > > Not that I'd _want_ them to pick up on it - but wouldn't this be a more > relevant gripe for reviewers than "fiddly CF card socket..." I suspect the fix fo

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-31 Thread Mark Cassino
Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 10:49 PM Subject: Re: *istD-flaws On 31 Jan 2005 at 21:44, Mark Cassino wrote: W

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-31 Thread Herb Chong
the Canon 1Ds Mk2 with a 16MP sensor outputs RAW files approximately 16MB in size. Herb - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 9:33 PM Subject: Re: *istD-flaws My friend with the rebel digital sez his RAW

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-31 Thread Peter Loveday
There are plenty of references to this problem in the archives, this is one of the issues that as been at least partly addressed in the *ist DS. And Godfrey if you think the *ist DS image buffer is too shallow and slow try a *ist D :-( Out of interest, how has it been improved in the DS, any ide

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-31 Thread Rob Studdert
On 31 Jan 2005 at 21:44, Mark Cassino wrote: > Well, Pentax RAW files must have some sort of compression going on - they > are (slightly) variable in file size. The *ist D PEF files consist of a fixed RAW bayer array dump (12 bits per pixel + 4 bit padding) plus a low res, full sized jpeg on wh

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-31 Thread Mark Cassino
: "Peter Loveday" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 9:22 PM Subject: Re: *istD-flaws Yes, indeed. Canon raw files are compressed (though not amazingly well). Pentax raw files are not only not compressed, they're padded to 16 bit :( It is one of my single bi

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-31 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Mark Cassino" Subject: Re: *istD-flaws I've never used or even looked at a Canon 10D, but I was talking to a Canon 10D user, who said that he got something like 150 RAW files per 1 gig card. I only get 70-75 raw files with the *ist-D, but I

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-31 Thread Rob Studdert
On 1 Feb 2005 at 12:52, Peter Loveday wrote: > Yes, indeed. > > Canon raw files are compressed (though not amazingly well). > > Pentax raw files are not only not compressed, they're padded to 16 bit :( > > It is one of my single biggest annoyances with the *istD. It _should_ be > able to get

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-31 Thread Peter Loveday
th no compression, they should be 3/4 of the size... Love, Light and Peace, - Peter Loveday - Original Message - From: "Mark Cassino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 12:41 PM Subject: Re: *istD-flaws I've never used or even looked at a Canon

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-31 Thread Mark Cassino
I've never used or even looked at a Canon 10D, but I was talking to a Canon 10D user, who said that he got something like 150 RAW files per 1 gig card. I only get 70-75 raw files with the *ist-D, but I've never heard any complaints about poor compression of RAW files on it *ist-D. Considering

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-31 Thread Frits Wüthrich
ybe the problem really arises with microdrives? How close to a CF FJW> > card are they in size (obviously, I have never used one and never FJW> > tried one in the *ist-D)? FJW> > FJW> >John Coyle FJW> >Brisbane, Australia FJW> > FJW> > FJW> >

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-31 Thread Gonz
Paul Stenquist wrote: The card compartment takes a wee bit of getting used to, but I don't consider it a problem. I now whip cards in and out without even thinking about it. If you have a strap attached, you have to make sure it's not in the way when you open the door, and it's a bit hard to gr

*ist DS flaws [was: *istD-flaws]

2005-01-31 Thread Fred
> Made up example: the istDS fixes that notorious lenses falling off > problem of the istD. OK, now that you guys have done a pretty good job thrashing around the earlier *ist D, please let me ask: What flaws might there be in the newer *ist DS design or implementation? Fred [still wondering w

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The *ist-Ds adds the Highlight alert IIRC. I don't remember if > it puts the histogram on the image or not. It does both, on your option. > They fixed the CF card eject problem but changing to SD cards > and according to some reviews I've > re

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Larry Cook
ECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: Re: *istD-flaws On 30 Jan 2005 at 11:15, John Coyle wrote: The first is really a non-issue with the *ist-D! Test performed just now: Lay the camera on the desk, lens mount down, no lens, so the body is perfectly horizontal. Ensure the s

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread John Coyle
*ist-D)? John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: Re: *istD-flaws On 30 Jan 2005 at 11:15, John Coyle wrote: The first is really a non-issue with the *ist-D! Test perfor

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread pnstenquist
I've changed CF cards in all kinds of conditions with no problems. I don't use microdrives, but why would I want to? MY CF cards slide right out of both of my *ist D cameras. I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. Paul > On 30 Jan 2005 at 11:15, John Coyle wrote: > > > The first is really a

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Rob Studdert
On 30 Jan 2005 at 11:15, John Coyle wrote: > The first is really a non-issue with the *ist-D! > > Test performed just now: > Lay the camera on the desk, lens mount down, no lens, so the body is > perfectly horizontal. > Ensure the strap isn't obstructing the card door. > Open the card door. > Pu

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread John Coyle
ssage - From: "Larry Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 10:19 AM Subject: Re: *istD-flaws A Luminous Landscape review from 2003 maintains the following: "Regrettably Pentax has missed the mark with the *ist D ... they can't ignore ... two s

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Larry Cook
A Luminous Landscape review from 2003 maintains the following: "Regrettably Pentax has missed the mark with the *ist D ... they can't ignore ... two serious flaws ‹ a highly problematic card compartment and the lack of a histogram and highlight alert in post-exposure review mode (only on subseq

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and the joy-stick on the back is an absolute pig of a design, one of the poorest implementations of such a control that I've used. That, Rob, is so absolutely my opinion too. :-( Jostein

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Thibouille
I received both attempts ;) On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:20:27 +1000, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 29 Jan 2005 at 17:00, Peter Smekal wrote: > > > Another argument not to get the *ist D blown into the wind ...gggrrr ... > > thank you guys ... :-) > > Read the previous comments as you

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Rob Studdert
On 29 Jan 2005 at 17:00, Peter Smekal wrote: > Another argument not to get the *ist D blown into the wind ...gggrrr ... > thank you guys ... :-) Read the previous comments as you will but for my money the card door and eject mech is a bad design and still is a bad design after I've been using it

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
From: Frantisek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Then again, Mr. Reichmann is just, in my opinion, sometimes too bloated. > Perhaps he should uncork himself, as they say in one part of Italy. Knowledge from Eco's "Foucault's Pendulum", I suppose... :-) Ciao, Gianfranco = _ __

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Rob Studdert
On 29 Jan 2005 at 17:00, Peter Smekal wrote: > Another argument not to get the *ist D blown into the wind ...gggrrr ... > thank you guys ... :-) Read the previous comments as you will but for my money the card door and eject mech is a bad design and still is a bad design after I've been using it

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Graywolf" Subject: Re: *istD-flaws I have come to the conclusion that ten minutes of using something will give you about the same information as reading 200 reviews. Reviews should be read with a tablespoon full of salt. Because they make mounta

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Frantisek
I find it quite funny of Mr. Reichmann to object of missing blinking highlights warning, when he is such a strong proponent of RAW. I don't know a single DSLR which computes the highlight warning from the 16bit data. AFAIK most if not all are computed from the 8bit preview (zoom) jpeg !!! Then aga

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Cotty
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Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/29/2005 7:02:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Btw, shooting RAW may have made me more laid-back on the exposure accuracy than I used to be with slide film. I'm still imagining that I work with a high-contrast slide film when I'm out there, and frequent

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Peter J. Alling
The *ist-Ds adds the Highlight alert IIRC. I don't remember if it puts the histogram on the image or not. They fixed the CF card eject problem but changing to SD cards and according to some reviews I've read you can eject one across the room. Peter Smekal wrote: A Luminous Landscape review from

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Peter Smekal
Graywolf wrote "the istDS fixes that notorious lenses falling off >problem of the istD" ... huuh ... what was that? Peter

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Graywolf
I have noticed over the years that reviewers like to mention a couple of fiddlely things. But they only mention serious defects when they review the next model. Made up example: the istDS fixes that notorious lenses falling off problem of the istD. I have come to the conclusion that ten minutes

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Peter Smekal
Another argument not to get the *ist D blown into the wind ...gggrrr ... thank you guys ... :-) Peter

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread brooksdj
> A Luminous Landscape review from 2003 maintains the following: > > "Regrettably Pentax has missed the mark with the *ist D ... they can't > ignore ... two serious flaws ‹ a highly problematic card compartment an> d > the lack of a histogram and highlight

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The *istDS body supports histogram on review, can do the blinking highlight thing, and the SD card carrier is not fiddly at all. When I use the instant review, I usually have it set for a minimal review time, without the histogram but with the highlight blinky going. That gives me enough informat

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Jostein
Instead of a hinged compartment door, it should have been a sliding door. :-) Jostein - Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 3:13 PM Subject: RE: *istD-flaws I guess the card problem could have been solve

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Jostein
ur negative or B/W, though, but I'm not able to tell... hth, Jostein - Original Message - From: "Peter Smekal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:30 PM Subject: *istD-flaws A Luminous Landscape review from 2003 maintains the following: &qu

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Pentxuser
Pete wrote A Luminous Landscape review from 2003 maintains the following: "Regrettably Pentax has missed the mark with the *ist D ... they can't ignore ... two serious flaws â a highly problematic card compartment and the lack of a histogram and highlight alert in post-exposure review mode (on

RE: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Jens Bladt
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: cbwaters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 29. januar 2005 14:57 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: *istD-flaws My card slot was quite fiddly upon receipt of the camera. After break-in however, it's

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
//hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Peter Smekal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 29. januar 2005 12:31 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: *istD-flaws A Luminous Landscape review from 2003 maintains the following: "Regrettably Pentax has missed the mark with the *ist D

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
The card compartment takes a wee bit of getting used to, but I don't consider it a problem. I now whip cards in and out without even thinking about it. If you have a strap attached, you have to make sure it's not in the way when you open the door, and it's a bit hard to grip the card after push

RE: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Jens Bladt
Well put, William. My thoughts exactly. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 29. januar 2005 13:25 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: *istD-flaws - Original Message

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread cbwaters
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 6:30 AM Subject: *istD-flaws A Luminous Landscape review from 2003 maintains the following: "Regrettably Pentax has missed the mark with the *ist D ... they can't ignore ... two serious flaws < a highly problematic card compartment and the lack of a histogr

Re: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Peter Smekal" Subject: *istD-flaws A Luminous Landscape review from 2003 maintains the following: "Regrettably Pentax has missed the mark with the *ist D ... they can't ignore ... two serious flaws < a highly problematic card compar

RE: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Jens Bladt
29. januar 2005 13:00 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: RE: *istD-flaws I can certaiinly live with both: 1) The problematic card compartment means, it's a little trickey to get the car out. And the compartment door sometimes gets caught in the camera strap. It's all really a matter of

RE: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Peter Smekal
Here's the link, just in case: http://luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax-istd.shtml

RE: *istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Jens Bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Peter Smekal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 29. januar 2005 12:31 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: *istD-flaws A Luminous Landscape review from 2003 maintains the following: "Regrettably Pentax has missed the mark with the *ist D ... they can't i

*istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Peter Smekal
A Luminous Landscape review from 2003 maintains the following: "Regrettably Pentax has missed the mark with the *ist D ... they can't ignore the two serious flaws that I've pointed out ‹ a highly problematic card compartment and the lack of a histogram and highlight alert in post-exposure review m

*istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Peter Smekal
A Luminous Landscape review from 2003 maintains the following: "Regrettably Pentax has missed the mark with the *ist D ... they can't ignore the two serious flaws that I've pointed out ‹ a highly problematic card compartment and the lack of a histogram and highlight alert in post-exposure review m

*istD-flaws

2005-01-29 Thread Peter Smekal
A Luminous Landscape review from 2003 maintains the following: "Regrettably Pentax has missed the mark with the *ist D ... they can't ignore ... two serious flaws ‹ a highly problematic card compartment and the lack of a histogram and highlight alert in post-exposure review mode (only on subsequen