Amita said:
"> I think most brides are just ignorant, and they're getting hit with so
> much marketing and they have so many details to deal with that their
> heads are spinning. They're mostly concerned about how they'll look and
> with making sure everything and everyone matches. So something
>
> Yeah, but the point is that in years to come, they will
> discover that it was their choice of photographer that
> enabled them to SHOW people what they looked like *when* they
> looked great, everything matched etc...
I agree completely! I was simply trying to come up with an answer to
Frank
> -Original Message-
> From: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> > I wonder how many engaged couples (or their families) try to
> > bargain down
> > the limosine company? Or the reception hall? (HA! try
> that one!)
>
> I think most brides are just ignorant, and they're getting
>
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From: "Tanya Mayer Photography"
Subject: Re: Cheap bastards? -was: Down off my "high-horse"... with a thump.
> Yeah, but the point is that in years to come, they will discover that it
was
> their choice of photographer that enabled the
Yeah, but the point is that in years to come, they will discover that it was
their choice of photographer that enabled them to SHOW people what they
looked like *when* they looked great, everything matched etc...
tan.
That is it!
Photographers are there to show what they spent their $200
Hi,
> If the divorce statisitcs in Oz are anything like they are here, there is a
> 50:50 chance that they won't want to be reminded of that particular day.
> Get yer money up front. I've had marriages end before the album is
> delivered.
> Hell, I had a marriage end just before the bride walks i
Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:
Bill said:
"> On the heels of the AF revolution came the "PJ" style of wedding
photography, which to me requires as much skill as squishing a wounded
bug."
Jeez Bill, hope tv doesn't read that...
Yeah, as a "tv" customer, I'd have to say I hired him fo
11:29 AM
Subject: Re: Cheap bastards? -was: Down off my "high-horse"... with a thump.
>
> >Yeah, but the point is that in years to come, they will discover that it
was
> >their choice of photographer that enabled them to SHOW people what they
> >looked like *when* they lo
Back long ago when I sold real estate I had all these customers I showed around
and very few sales. Then one day I woke up, and I did some figuring. I found
that for someone to buy a house (and I mean the very cheapest house) in the area
I was in they had to have an income of $50,000/year and $1
;
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:13 AM
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>
> Get yer money up front. I've had marriages end before the album is
> delivered.
> Hell, I had a marriage end just before the bride walks into
ards? -was: Down off my
> "high-horse"... with a thump.
>
>
> tvv's comment on paying someone $200 to $300 an hour is very
> ironic. About
> 1/2 of those people will, in not too many years time, be
> paying another
> professional $200 to $300 an hour, f
In the local VFW hall?
BR
From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I'll do that. On a Tuesday.
In February .
tv
"Len Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>...divorces are expensive because they are worth it. ;-)
Absolutely brilliant!
(But it still ain't gonna make the PDML famous quotations list!)
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
dnesday, January 07, 2004 6:49 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Cheap bastards? -was: Down off my
> "high-horse"... with a
> thump.
>
>
> In the local VFW hall?
>
> BR
>
> From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I'll do that. On a Tuesday.
>
> In February .
>
> tv
>
>
>
What are "Hot Pockets?"
tom wrote:
> Anyway, I shoot the wedding, reception is at the VFW hall. Catered by
> the VFW - frozen vegetables and those really nasty frozen chicken kiev
> patties. Basically Hot Pockets, but not as good. Very inexpensive
> wedding.
>
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> Subject: Re: Cheap bastards? -was: Down off my
> "high-horse"... with a
> thump.
>
>
> What are "Hot Pockets?"
>
> tom wrote:
>
> > Anyway, I shoot the wedding, reception is at the VFW
> hall. Catered by
> >
Yuck! Probably loaded with chemicals and treated waste products.
tom wrote:
> Oh jeez, they have their own site -
>
> http://www.hotpockets.com/
>
> Hot pocket dissection -
>
> http://www.cockeyed.com/science/hotpocket/hotpok1.html
I think a lot depends upon the environment in which the photographer meets
to discuss the booking. If the prospective clients come to the
photographer's studio, they are influenced by what they see there. Pictures
on the walls, diplomas, degrees, memberships in professional societies, the
fur
I told Rodney Dangerfield the story of my life many years ago and he made a
fortune with it.
Len
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"Len Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>...divorces are expensive because they are worth it. ;-)
Absolutely brilliant!
(But it still ain't gonna make the PDML f
Similar to "Lean Pockets", as advertised, ad nauseum, on the teli.
Len
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From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yeah, I went to the site Tom mentioned.
Never saw a "... Pockets" ad on the telly.
Leonard Paris wrote:
> Similar to "Lean Pockets", as advertised, ad nauseum, on the teli.
>
I must admit you are more ascetic than I.
Len
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From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 07 Ja
onnell.com
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From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cheap bastards? -was: Down off my "high-horse"... with a
thump.
Hi,
I've been to Mormon weddings and inside Mormon temples, and I'
oint, my brother (athiest) married a Mormon and they had a short but
sweet marriage in a Ward house.
Jeff Jonsson
-Original Message-
From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 1:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:53 PM
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thump.
Hey, around these parts (Utah) there are no photogs allowed in the LDS
(Mormon) Temples. So all the pics the couple gets are
Hi,
> Wow, must not be in Utah.
France and England. When I was 14 I went with a school friend to stay
with our pen-friends in Reims. We were looking forward to 2 weeks of
binge-drinking and chasing French girls. Turned out our pen-friends'
family was Mormon. We were very disappointed. They dragge
k
my brother. "Temple weddings" are what all of the faithful aspire to.
Jeff Jonsson
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From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 1:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 6/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
>
>>Get yer money up front. I've had marriages end before the album is
>>delivered.
>>Hell, I had a marriage end just before the bride walks into the church.
>>And that was one incredibly funny (to me, but I am a twited pig)
anya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cheap bastards? -was: Down off my "high-horse"... with a
thump.
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 13:36:02 +1000
graywolf, I very rarely shoot the reception. I generally sho
ist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer
From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Cheap bastards? -was: Down off my "high-horse"...
Frank,
You don't have to be anyone that you aren't to do portrait photography.
I really love shooting protraits of people I know. I try to capture an
image that defines who they are, at least in my estimation. It's a very
satisfying thing when you capture the essence of a friend. I never sell
o
ossible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer
From: "Len Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Cheap bastards? -was: Down off my "high-horse"... with a
thump.
Date: Wed, 7 Ja
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Cotty wrote:
> Check this out: back in 1984 we had an assistant film editor who was
> engaged but the marriage was called off a few days before as the groom
> had decided he was gay and ran off with the best man.
Beat that: wedding called off when the bride's father catches th
hasn't gained the knowledge of photography was pretty poor. But with
good P&S cameras and mini labs, the ability for anyone to create a
passable snapshot has made them feel that the value of the item
(photo) isn't very high. After all, all I did was press a button. I
really didn't have to know
Hello Jeff,
Gee, since I shoot quite of few of them, I term them both. The
wedding is at the temple and the reception is somewhere else. In
fact, I am shooting one tomorrow at the Oakland Temple. In this case,
the wedding is tomorrow, but the reception is next week.
--
Best regards,
Bruce
No, they are not. There is no legal polygamy and those who practice
polygamy are not Mormons.
--
Best regards,
Bruce
Wednesday, January 7, 2004, 12:14:59 PM, you wrote:
JCOC> Aren't the mormons the ones that engage in legal polygamy?
JCOC> jco
JCOC> --
Hello Bob,
You may be mixing up Temples and regular church buildings. Based on
your description, you went to a regular church, not a temple.
--
Best regards,
Bruce
Wednesday, January 7, 2004, 12:51:31 PM, you wrote:
BW> Hi,
>> Wow, must not be in Utah.
BW> France and England. When I was 1
- Original Message -
From: "Bruce Dayton"
Subject: Re[2]: Cheap bastards? -was: Down off my "high-horse"... with a
thump.
>
> One real issue/problem is that the general percieved value of a
> photograph has steadily declined as the ability to make/crea
Why is it the Catholics, who have been around for a couple of thousand
years, will allow me to shoot from the alter, as long as I don't make a
spectacle, but some wannabe cult that was born last week makes my life
miserable?
Go figure. I don't get it.
William Robb
William, it depends on the pries
Bill said:
"> On the heels of the AF revolution came the "PJ" style of wedding
> photography, which to me requires as much skill as squishing a wounded
bug."
Jeez Bill, hope tv doesn't read that...
I totally disagree with you on that point. I am hopeless at PJ photography
and I don't really lik
use that's when you make the money - and you don't have to lug 50 lbs of
Mamiya gear around to do it.
--
Robert
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From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2
promised. Ceremony ends and priest "thanks" me for my assistance (?!?) and
then congratulates me on a "job well done"
I think some priests have had very bad experiences in the past and they
prefer to be safe than sorry. We photographed a wedding where apart from us
there were 7 or 8 other people
- Original Message -
From: "Amita Guha"
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Cheap bastards? -was: Down off my "high-horse"... with a
thump.
> The Presbyterian church where we got married (200 year old congregation)
> didn't allow photography during the service, b
Bitch and moan, bitch and moan, wah, wah, wah.
Just to counteract the horror stories...
- I like most of my clients. Every once in a while I get hired by a
twit, but generally they're very nice people who treat me well. In
fact, most of them treat me like I'm doing them a favor.
- I shoot what I
Unless I missed it in this thread somewhere, I've seen no one comment on the
staging of the ceremony afterwards to compensate for either the lack of
flash during or no shooting at all during the ceremony. I've had pretty
good success and complete cooperation from the clergy in this matter thus
far
"Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Oh, give'em a couple of centuries. They'll thaw up.
>
>Buddhism looks better...:-)
Speaking of which:
Has anyone ever photographed a Buddhist wedding?
And if so, what form of Buddhism? (Tibetan, Zen, etc.)
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.roberts
I've agreed to do the photography at a friends wedding this year. It
still has no legal standing here, but the celebrant will still take
their money and do a ceremony. I'm not sure at this stage how many of
the traditional shots will still work without the girl in the white
dress. Fortunately Micha
Connell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 1:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cheap bastards? -was: Down off my "high-horse"... with a
thump.
Aren't the mormons the ones that engage in legal polygamy?
jco
--
Meager wedding experience (Was: Cheap bastards? -was:
Down off my "high-horse"... with a thump.)
For those about to venture into wedding photography,
be careful and buy a few books on it. My wedding photos
and planning was much better after some good reading.
I also felt compelled to warn
anuary 07, 2004 8:06 AM
Subject: My Meager wedding experience (Was: Cheap bastards? -was: Down off
my "high-horse"... with a thump.)
Most of the big photo houses around Salt Lake
I don't, and won't, be the "official" photographer at a wedding. Since the
only weddings we attend are those of friends and relatives, my wedding
"gift" is a set of candids. I always clear what I'm doing with the pro, get
his/her okay, and do my best to stay out of their way. I usually know most
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Bill Owens wrote:
> I don't, and won't, be the "official" photographer at a wedding. Since the
> only weddings we attend are those of friends and relatives, my wedding
> "gift" is a set of candids. I always clear what I'm doing with the pro, get
> his/her okay, and do my best
Hi,
[...]
> I also felt compelled to warn the client up front that
> photography processes are not 100% reliable and there
> is always a small chance of something going wrong. That
> way if something did go wrong they would be more willing
> to accept it. Also, when things went right ( they always
Steve Sint's book is a nice starting place.
Len
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For those about to venture into wedding photography,
be careful and buy a few books on it. My wedding photos
and planning was much better after some good reading.
I also felt compelled to warn the client up fr
Started to make a long comment to this then realized this definately is a
religous/political issue. Not discussing such is one of the conscenses of the
folks on this list. So I, and I hope everyone else, will forbare.
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Jeff Jonsson wrote:
The official LDS church based in Salt Lake City does
s? -was:
> Down off my "high-horse"... with a thump.
>
>
> Started to make a long comment to this then realized this
> definately is a
> religous/political issue. Not discussing such is one of the
> conscenses of the
> folks on this list. So I, and I hope everyone else, will forbare.
On 7 Jan 2004 at 16:26, graywolf wrote:
> Started to make a long comment to this then realized this definately is a
> religous/political issue. Not discussing such is one of the conscenses of the
> folks on this list. So I, and I hope everyone else, will forbare.
I hope that we can get off weddi
ch part of our fore should we bare?
Len
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